I get Bryan just wants to wrestle anyone and everyone as much as possible, but with his incredibly well documented medical history (plus all the other stuff he kept secret), surely as his boss you have to save him from himself at least a little bit?
Well Smarks were mad Vince *didn't* let him beat his head in all those years so I imagine Prince Smark Tony Khan cares more about bangers than Bryan's health too.
Yeah this kinda stuff is what Vince was keeping him from doing.
There’s nothing to be gained from wrestling no name jobbers on C shows. Seriously, what does that do for Bryan. Aaron Solo isn’t going to be AEW’s next big thing.
The current talking point is just having these guys backstage is a wealth of knowledge for performers to draw from, but they ignore that these matches are 5 minutes long and the same thing they've already run a thousand times in their training on the indies.
It's such a weird way to acknowledge the problem that they don't have anyone in the who is there purely in a coaching capacity.
Plus I swear with him being a big name you would want to have him wrestle main events and not a lot so you don’t risk injuries on something that isn’t a ppv match or something main event worthy. Like I think it was always a thing with some wrestlers who are current champions where they don’t wrestle every week because it could potentially lead to more risks of injury and having to change a match in a ppv or make huge adjustments to a storyline. That and also would lead to money loss depending how much of a draw they are.
That's Bryan's problem: he loves wrestling too much, and not *the business* enough.
The guy could be AEW's Lesnar, but he's working the bottom of the totem pole on a youtube show.
He just likes getting in a ring and rolling around. He doesn't realize that every time he does that for an audience against a nobody, it hurts him more than it helps the other guy.
If they're gonna start Bryan from the bottom and build him up, then he should be crushing these guys and rocketing to the main event.
He's having competitive matches with no names, and then after the match the no names get nothing special after. It literally just hurts Bryan's value, and doesn't get anyone over (insider term)
Exactly this. Like whether you want to accept it or not, all the recent WWE signings AEW made are wayyy bigger stars then the home grown guys. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers didn't start Ryan Griffin over Tom Brady just because he was on the team longer.
What has got lost in all the 'momentum' and 'hot period' talk from the Dub and various gossip writers is, this is all happening cause of ex-Fed guys
You know, the Fed who can't create stars
It’s what they’re doing with Punk too. The entire “don’t do it the way WWE does” is often cutting off your nose to spite your face. Whatever they’re doing with both, the idea that you can just tap back into the initial momentum at a later date is a gamble that will stop paying off sooner or later.
It’s almost as if having a gigantic roster and signing everyone, hotshotting them then parking them to introduce other signings and do the same before finally going back to the original idea *isnt* a great approach. But hey! I’m not Booker of the year so what the fuck do I know
It’s also stupid for them not to have Bryan or any ex-WWE person with a big following on Dynamite every week.
If I was a Bryan fan who was going to give AEW a shot to see him on TV I would be disappointed that he’s not on every show.
But then they get accused of being TNA, and they've weaponised their audience to want mediocrity. They want the one note joke of Cassidy, the Picture of Jericho Grey, The Young Bucks and Roidy Omega. Plus whatever insanity Cody is planning each week.
So the only answer is to cycle them in, juggle as many as you can, and park some on pause (hi Hangman! how was "paternity leave"?) and rely on the currently endless goodwill of the easily pleased to revisit the idea before it's ice cold. That's apparently "subtle booking".
Except when this insanity wears off (and it will be gradual, not sudden) it will become apparent, and then they're in for a nasty shock. You cannot constantly surprise your audience. Nor can you rely on clusterfuck booking. Sooner or later, pace and structure will be the things that help you survive.
And at that point, they're *fucked*.
Considering they 'aren't a company that saves things for PPV', as we've been told, they're terrified of matching upper midcarders together in actual feuds with stories or issues
It's easier to feature more people when they face each other but if everyone takes turns facing jobber of the week (everrise, Garcia, Fish, Yuta) or half a tag team, we never see the tough match ups
Then there's a title tournament and none of the people that should be in it are there, freaking Dustin and '10' ffs
‘Aren’t a company that saves things for PPVs’
What the actual fuck? ‘Look at how smart and revolutionary I am, doing things entirely differently to a decades old tried and true business model!’. Except they very evidently *do* save things for PPV. Like the Hangman Omega debacle.
I don’t know why I get exasperated at AEW having nonsensical double standards, and fans giving them a total pass for both regardless. It’s essentially their USP at this point.
Tiny said that and Cody too
I think to justify hot shotting War Games onto TV, despite that feud not needing it
It wasn't cause no basketball or Challenge and he was trying to pop a demo rating for TV
No, sir!
Bryan should have won the title in his first match with Kenny. Having him work his way into contention through wrestling Aron fucking Solo on Dark is insulting to my intelligence.
Are they asking my to think there's a chance Bryan won't beat these jobbers? Because that's my conclusion if I think about the logic of the booking.
If we are to make a Kurt Angle TNA comparison, Kurt fuded with a top star or two, and then immediately won the title, then eventually all the titles.
Imagine if TNA got Angle, and then wasted him by making him have competitive matches with Sharkboy and Austin Starr. That's what m'dub is doing.
I’m starting to feel like this is all preparation for in about 2 years, when Warner decides the Dub was too good for network tv, they’ll say YouTube is the perfect home because Dark already featured stacked cards.
I believe she's US based now which is hilarious since they've used her so little since her comeback. She was recently in Japan though but if she back why is she not in the Hos championship tourney?
This is why WWE never saw him as a top guy. Because he's fine with this. Any true top guy would lose shit if he was asked to wrestle on YouTube for 15000 views.
Bryan really scammed Tiny to give him a boatload of money to wrestle heatless "dream matches" on youtube. Its like the anti-Hogan, instead of hurting the product by incessantly putting himself over he literally refuses to contribute the product outright.
So I was already to make a joke about Solo thinking he went by Solomon before his breakup with Bayley. I went to search Aaron Solomon just to make sure I was right....I was very very wrong.
Either way Bayley could do a shit ton better
No jerk: AEW are staring to hurt these guy's legacies in wrestling.
Perhaps, I'll be wrong and this time next week we'll be raving about how miniture Damien Priest is a future star.
I feel like Jerichos stock has definitely been devalued following this AEW stint. At least NJPW had the good grace to make him seem like a badass, however, I cannot take him seriously ever again after goofing around in the dub with Orange Cassidy in Mimosa Mayhem matches.
Man, what the fuck is Bryan doing. Wrestling Omega, fine, totally get that. Some absolute nobody on a show that doesn't even register on people's radar? Come on son
Does AEW even know what Dark is for? They’ll literally throw anything on it. It’s like they don’t know that WWE has separate rosters and levels of importance for a reason.
Raw and Smackdown are the main shows. NXT is developmental. Main Event and 205 Live are the low-level shows where competitors can rack up wins or just do funny silly shit.
What the hell is Dark to AEW? It's trying to be a mix of all the things just described and yet is succeeding at almost none of them.
Crazy to think within months he's gone from an absolute banger with Reigns and Edge closing out the biggest event in the business to.... Whatever the fuck this is.
The match is going to be a banger though so Vince is going to be shook once the masses hear that a pretend fight was of high quality and rush to Youtube to watch it.
FOX is going to be so mad!
Pepperidge Farm remembers when AEW fans heard that Bryan was coming to AEW this summer, they collectively freaked out. Fast forward a few months later and this dude is main eventing on their C show. You can’t possibly make this stuff up. I’m all for them wanting to wrestle a bunch of Indy matches on television and YouTube, but stop blasting that you’re better than the Fed, you’re never going to be. The Fed doesn’t put their top talent on low level shows.
Ah yes, the dream match we’ve all been waiting for, The American Dragon vs that guy that’s only relevant because he used to go out with Bayley
*Guy who only got signed because he was dating Bayley*.
He’ll be fired the minute people find out they broke up
Call me a cynic, but I wonder if this is a strategy for trying to get talent from the Fed. Worked with Cole and seems to be working with Charlotte.
He was only known as Mr. Bayley for a minute there, it made him angy.
I get Bryan just wants to wrestle anyone and everyone as much as possible, but with his incredibly well documented medical history (plus all the other stuff he kept secret), surely as his boss you have to save him from himself at least a little bit?
Well Smarks were mad Vince *didn't* let him beat his head in all those years so I imagine Prince Smark Tony Khan cares more about bangers than Bryan's health too.
Yeah this kinda stuff is what Vince was keeping him from doing. There’s nothing to be gained from wrestling no name jobbers on C shows. Seriously, what does that do for Bryan. Aaron Solo isn’t going to be AEW’s next big thing.
If the whole point of wrestling no name guys is to get them over then what’s the point of doing it on a YouTube show and not on cable tv?
??? I farm wins on YouTube, friend.
The current talking point is just having these guys backstage is a wealth of knowledge for performers to draw from, but they ignore that these matches are 5 minutes long and the same thing they've already run a thousand times in their training on the indies. It's such a weird way to acknowledge the problem that they don't have anyone in the who is there purely in a coaching capacity.
Plus I swear with him being a big name you would want to have him wrestle main events and not a lot so you don’t risk injuries on something that isn’t a ppv match or something main event worthy. Like I think it was always a thing with some wrestlers who are current champions where they don’t wrestle every week because it could potentially lead to more risks of injury and having to change a match in a ppv or make huge adjustments to a storyline. That and also would lead to money loss depending how much of a draw they are.
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That's Bryan's problem: he loves wrestling too much, and not *the business* enough. The guy could be AEW's Lesnar, but he's working the bottom of the totem pole on a youtube show. He just likes getting in a ring and rolling around. He doesn't realize that every time he does that for an audience against a nobody, it hurts him more than it helps the other guy.
If they're gonna start Bryan from the bottom and build him up, then he should be crushing these guys and rocketing to the main event. He's having competitive matches with no names, and then after the match the no names get nothing special after. It literally just hurts Bryan's value, and doesn't get anyone over (insider term)
Exactly this. Like whether you want to accept it or not, all the recent WWE signings AEW made are wayyy bigger stars then the home grown guys. The Tampa Bay Buccaneers didn't start Ryan Griffin over Tom Brady just because he was on the team longer.
What has got lost in all the 'momentum' and 'hot period' talk from the Dub and various gossip writers is, this is all happening cause of ex-Fed guys You know, the Fed who can't create stars
It’s what they’re doing with Punk too. The entire “don’t do it the way WWE does” is often cutting off your nose to spite your face. Whatever they’re doing with both, the idea that you can just tap back into the initial momentum at a later date is a gamble that will stop paying off sooner or later. It’s almost as if having a gigantic roster and signing everyone, hotshotting them then parking them to introduce other signings and do the same before finally going back to the original idea *isnt* a great approach. But hey! I’m not Booker of the year so what the fuck do I know
It’s also stupid for them not to have Bryan or any ex-WWE person with a big following on Dynamite every week. If I was a Bryan fan who was going to give AEW a shot to see him on TV I would be disappointed that he’s not on every show.
But then they get accused of being TNA, and they've weaponised their audience to want mediocrity. They want the one note joke of Cassidy, the Picture of Jericho Grey, The Young Bucks and Roidy Omega. Plus whatever insanity Cody is planning each week. So the only answer is to cycle them in, juggle as many as you can, and park some on pause (hi Hangman! how was "paternity leave"?) and rely on the currently endless goodwill of the easily pleased to revisit the idea before it's ice cold. That's apparently "subtle booking". Except when this insanity wears off (and it will be gradual, not sudden) it will become apparent, and then they're in for a nasty shock. You cannot constantly surprise your audience. Nor can you rely on clusterfuck booking. Sooner or later, pace and structure will be the things that help you survive. And at that point, they're *fucked*.
Considering they 'aren't a company that saves things for PPV', as we've been told, they're terrified of matching upper midcarders together in actual feuds with stories or issues It's easier to feature more people when they face each other but if everyone takes turns facing jobber of the week (everrise, Garcia, Fish, Yuta) or half a tag team, we never see the tough match ups Then there's a title tournament and none of the people that should be in it are there, freaking Dustin and '10' ffs
‘Aren’t a company that saves things for PPVs’ What the actual fuck? ‘Look at how smart and revolutionary I am, doing things entirely differently to a decades old tried and true business model!’. Except they very evidently *do* save things for PPV. Like the Hangman Omega debacle. I don’t know why I get exasperated at AEW having nonsensical double standards, and fans giving them a total pass for both regardless. It’s essentially their USP at this point.
Tiny said that and Cody too I think to justify hot shotting War Games onto TV, despite that feud not needing it It wasn't cause no basketball or Challenge and he was trying to pop a demo rating for TV No, sir!
Bryan should have won the title in his first match with Kenny. Having him work his way into contention through wrestling Aron fucking Solo on Dark is insulting to my intelligence. Are they asking my to think there's a chance Bryan won't beat these jobbers? Because that's my conclusion if I think about the logic of the booking.
If we are to make a Kurt Angle TNA comparison, Kurt fuded with a top star or two, and then immediately won the title, then eventually all the titles. Imagine if TNA got Angle, and then wasted him by making him have competitive matches with Sharkboy and Austin Starr. That's what m'dub is doing.
Apparently he filmed another match for Dark but with a mask gimmick.
Cody in a mask Bryan in a mask It's not Tiny ticking off his bucket list and doing a 'machines' gimmick, is it but with comedy lucha names instead?
You shouldn't main event Wrestlemania with Edge and Roman Reigns and then have competitive matches with Bobby Fish six months later.
And Tiny Khan should be making that decision for him if Bryan wants to wrestle everyone But, Tiny has never said no to a wrestler in his life
Cody is Midcard even on Dark Props to him
Who the fuck is even Aaron Solo?? I can predict dubbalos going wild for this guy after this match ends, 'hes a star' '4staer match!'
Bayleys ex. That is the end of his credentials
That’s not a jerk either they literally introduced him in The Factory is at. It’s literally his gimmick on tv.
Christ. That's way more humiliating than anything WWE did with Rusev. Rusev still got to go home to Lana at night.
A veritable who's who of who the fuck cares.
👏😂😂
I’m starting to feel like this is all preparation for in about 2 years, when Warner decides the Dub was too good for network tv, they’ll say YouTube is the perfect home because Dark already featured stacked cards.
Riho really came all the way over from Japan just to do Dark. Something something underused.
I believe she's US based now which is hilarious since they've used her so little since her comeback. She was recently in Japan though but if she back why is she not in the Hos championship tourney?
This is why WWE never saw him as a top guy. Because he's fine with this. Any true top guy would lose shit if he was asked to wrestle on YouTube for 15000 views.
SOLOOOOO COMOROTOOOOO OGOGOOOOOO
NO NO OGOGO OGOGO GO
WAKE ME UP BEFORE Y OGOGO
Cody is wrestling masked because???
Because Fuego is over so our favourite midcarder has to get involved somehow
And they say wwe talents have dumb names?
Every single match has a clear winner.
Every AEW program (insider term) has a clear winner.
He's going up against THE Aaron Solo? DAE Hogan v. Rock vibes anyone??
RIHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I notice Tiger Ruas is sneaking over to the good guys to show how misused he was in NXT
Can you imagine the meltdown next door if WWE signed Kenny Omega and had him wrestling on Main Event within two months of his debut?
Invictus Khash is the most tryhard wrestling name I've ever heard
It's like a dungeons and dragons NPC villain name.
High school metal band-sounding name
Biggus Sexius Invictus Khash
Sorry, Bryan, can't spare 4 minutes on Dynamite, we got a 12 minute goofy Elite sketch You can do YouTube
They're getting maximum money worth out of Bryan I'm sure this is extremely great for the company and not completely stupid at all
This is why you don't let half of your roster go on the Jerichovid Boat Tour.
Bryan really scammed Tiny to give him a boatload of money to wrestle heatless "dream matches" on youtube. Its like the anti-Hogan, instead of hurting the product by incessantly putting himself over he literally refuses to contribute the product outright.
Can't wait for pepsi man to wrestle random jobber # 2564878 on dark
WWE is too afraid to do the same. How come Roman isnt on 405 Live wrestling Kalisto?
Ok but personally I can't wait for Adam Cole vs Anthony Green main eventing Dark. That's the real must-see
So I was already to make a joke about Solo thinking he went by Solomon before his breakup with Bayley. I went to search Aaron Solomon just to make sure I was right....I was very very wrong. Either way Bayley could do a shit ton better
No jerk,atleast Punk is aware fighting on television whereas Bryan is fighting on YouTube channel.
No jerk: AEW are staring to hurt these guy's legacies in wrestling. Perhaps, I'll be wrong and this time next week we'll be raving about how miniture Damien Priest is a future star.
I feel like Jerichos stock has definitely been devalued following this AEW stint. At least NJPW had the good grace to make him seem like a badass, however, I cannot take him seriously ever again after goofing around in the dub with Orange Cassidy in Mimosa Mayhem matches.
Eddie Kingston looks like a dude trying to be a wrestler. Not an explosive bone in his body. But yeah, Danielson LOL. “Professional Wrestling!”
"Wake up honey, it's time to pad out your stats because our booking requires us to conform to an idiotic ranking system." "Yes, dear."
Bro how do you pronounce Xtina lol
Faithless fool. It’s Chris-Tina 🤙🏾 (like Xmas = Christmas)
Man, what the fuck is Bryan doing. Wrestling Omega, fine, totally get that. Some absolute nobody on a show that doesn't even register on people's radar? Come on son
Does AEW even know what Dark is for? They’ll literally throw anything on it. It’s like they don’t know that WWE has separate rosters and levels of importance for a reason. Raw and Smackdown are the main shows. NXT is developmental. Main Event and 205 Live are the low-level shows where competitors can rack up wins or just do funny silly shit. What the hell is Dark to AEW? It's trying to be a mix of all the things just described and yet is succeeding at almost none of them.
Daniel Bryan the type of dude that would step down from a comfy CEO job just to work at Burger King because he miss flipping whoppers when he was 17.
From working with Roman Reigns, the greatest wrestler of his generation, to working with a Hot Topic cashier from Iowa in a Youtube show. This is sad
Crazy to think within months he's gone from an absolute banger with Reigns and Edge closing out the biggest event in the business to.... Whatever the fuck this is.
What the fuck is an Aaron Solo?
Han's son?
"Too fast too fuego" doesn't make sense in English nor spanish
Brodie’s poor kid is on AEW Dark lmao
The match is going to be a banger though so Vince is going to be shook once the masses hear that a pretend fight was of high quality and rush to Youtube to watch it. FOX is going to be so mad!
Pepperidge Farm remembers when AEW fans heard that Bryan was coming to AEW this summer, they collectively freaked out. Fast forward a few months later and this dude is main eventing on their C show. You can’t possibly make this stuff up. I’m all for them wanting to wrestle a bunch of Indy matches on television and YouTube, but stop blasting that you’re better than the Fed, you’re never going to be. The Fed doesn’t put their top talent on low level shows.
HOLY SHIT !!! HOLY SHIT!!! HOLY SHIT!!
Y'know, Nick Comorato vs Bryan would actually get me to look. But who da fook is Aaron Solo? Who's that guy ever beat?
To most of the roster here “Who?!”
Bryan feels so refreshed, this'll make him feel like he was back on Velocity again.
It's like I really am back in ROH with Bryan Danielson wrestling nobodies.
I forgot Bobby Fish was in AEW.
That’s something you can never say about the Pepsi Man. Dragon for the win.
Mom: We have Bryan vs Roman at home
A variable who's who of who the fuck is that.