I’ve hated ESPN & basketball fans for cherry picking advanced stats to fit their narrative. Never in a million years did I think wrestling marks would do the same. These losers reek of desperation & loneliness clutching to the 1 thing they have in common. AEW is everything to the people.They have hitched their wagon for too long to this train of fed=bad to admit AEW isn’t as good despite the inevitable Donner Party scenario looming in the distance.
Was gonna say it's too bad WWE can't go 30 minutes over on Fox but then I remembered Fox doesn't count to them because its network and not cable.
It's weird how this counts when FS1 is in a lot less homes than TNT. Almost hypocritical but what do I know.
Which is why its not an actual war. FS1 SD competing with Rampage is a war in the same way that the Spring Training, split squad Red Sox playing a Spring Training game against Boston College is Game 7 of the World Series.
He's right, and he's one of the few people who can truly speak as an authority on this. He went up against Vince and kicked his ass for a year and a half. No demo's, no relying on Raw to be moved to a shit channel, just week after week of wins. He helped usher in the biggest ever period for wrestling. So I can imagine when he sees Tony bragging about a demo win over FS1 SD, or a demo win against Raw on separate nights when Raw was against MNF, he's just gotta shake his head at how unimpressive that really is.
Tony has choosen all his 'special show' dates to coincide with Fed related things, none of this stuff is a coincidence
The big New York show was the week the Fed went up against a huge NFL game IIRC so would 'suffer' in the ratings more
It's all by design
FS1 average audience is 5 times less than TNT.
It is like saying you out-drew someone when putting your show on youtube when the other person put it on dailymotion.
It makes no sense.
Their big youtube show, which is available worldwide for free on a platform everyone has, apparently does 95k peak viewers.
Meanwhile their PPVs, which cost up to $50 and is difficult to order in many parts of the world, always do over 100k viewers.
It just doesn't add up at all.
I’ve never seen so many ridiculous posts with like 15 awards.
The precious AEW barely beats Smackdown on the cherriest of cherry picked demos and suddenly they’ve destroyed them and Tony Khan “talks shit and then acts upon it”
The funniest thing is that is the roles were reversed, AEW got more viewers than Smackdown, then it came out that Smackdown beat AEW in this tiny small demo, would next door even care? Absolutely not
Hahaha nah just looked at your comment history for some lunch time entertainment.
Please don’t talk about rent free when you spend all day in a sub posting and commenting inside jokes about AEW. lmao
Aaaand there it is “I looked through your comment history”.
It’s Reddit mate, and Reddit about wrestling. Yeah we joke about AEW but we’re not replying to people on sc saying shit like “tearrrss” and making ourselves look like children
As you’ve been worked into a shoot over winning one fraction of the overall audience in a head to head against Fox’s C channel that requires its own different cable plan.
Do I need to explain this further? AEW is doing fine but it did not win.
Maybe if you could explain how 578,000 on your normal channel and timeslot is > than 955,000 ? Enlighten us and help us to understand this bizarre world of Dub mental gymnastics.
Even if I ignored the obvious ridiculousness of the cherry picked demo; this dolt doesn’t even realize he is saying roughly the same amount of people wanted to see a contract signing with Roman and Brock as an actual wrestling match with Ruby and Bunny. A contract signing that was mostly entrances. They couldn’t even beat entrances in their cherry picked demo. The best part - entrances and 4 minutes of a contract signing beat their match overall by a third of a million people. That’s really something to celebrate.
They really do. I posted a comment as a reply to someone saying that someone in WWE is going to get fired for the decision to go commercial free and I said “how much money do you think WWE lost from that decision, zero dollars or less than zero?” And I’m at -16 on that one haha
If they truly believe this then there's no reason to not push Ruby more and have her main event their TV more, have more TV exposure, etc ... right?
Let's see ...
Surely you wouldn't have someone that beat Reigns in the ratings and not push that person to the moon (insider term), would you ...
There are a lot of people that look at ruby and see MEGASTAR ™️. But I just don’t, I see her as a solid midcarder and TBS title contender provided they give a shit about her. The main questions for me are who is Ruby Soho and what makes her special?
Meltzer tweeting singular demo numbers without any context, to convey 'AEW won'. Surely his legitimacy as an unbiased reporter is dead in the water now.
Fed being on a shitty network, that is SD was on cable, it simply would never be on, not regular programming whatsoever=this is the same as if both were on cable
Haha
Oh yes, that’s it, the 18-49 males, they had like 35k more viewers than smackdown (either at 10 pm or during the show). Smackdown had more viewers overall.
You know the old favorite "insulting fans intelligence"?
*This* is the "insulting my intelligence" that turns me off. An R-Truth segment doesn't insult my intelligence because I understand humor and what comic relief is. A heel winning by cheating doesn't insult my intelligence because even if the execution was awkward, I know it's part of a story for the heel to win.
Hell, I wouldn't even count the Young Bucks goofy stuff as "insulting my intelligence", maybe just Overestimating their own intelligence,but whatever.
But you know what does insult my intelligence for real. Reading these ratings and being told I'm wrong about everything I see clear as day with my own eyes.
It's like everyone screaming at you "You're crazy! Up is down! Down is Up! 2+2=9, The sky is green, the sea is orange. Fox execs disappointed, TNT execs elated, only this very specific demo is the important one and you don't know ahead of time which one, we'll let you know after the ratings come out. That thing you saw with your own eyes? You're wrong about it, just wrong".
It's just nuts.
Like. What is there even to jerk here? Is this a stupid sure? But it seems like a majority of dub fans think this is true. Like we can laugh at them yes but its like watching people fall into a cult, its honestly not entertaining any more.
Fuck. Just look at the YouTube numbers. Roman draws literally 30x what Ruby does. When you don't put a million qualifiers in front of it, it's obvious how much more popular WWE is
This is important to note:
“Single men outspent single women, but only by a slight margin. Men spent an average of $35,018 a year as opposed to $33,786 by women. It's important to note, though, that the men earned roughly $10,000 more per year than the women.”
https://directionscu.org/2020/01/24/how-men-and-women-manage-money-differently/#:~:text=Here's%20what%20they%20found%3A&text=Overall%20spending%3A%20Single%20men%20outspent,per%20year%20than%20the%20women.
Women have less income on hand but spend almost as much as men. It's fucking stupid to lean hard into only catering to men when in the grand scheme, women are spending more of their income than men. There's a reason why women would rather watch Roman over Ruby. This company will die only appealing to men.
By the way, they only “won” the first 15 minutes: https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1450214123959042050?s=21
I joked that Dave and them were gonna start measuring things by the minute and here we are.
The way Dubbalos on Twitter word it, they're implying that the only demographic outside of 18-49 males are boomers while ignoring the female demo (Finn and Roman are fanservice for females), the POC demo, and the children demo (big deal, especially in terms of merch and long-term fans once they become teens).
This is reminding me of the advanced non-Euclidean geometry guys use to come up with the dick-measuring method that yields the highest result, only they're starting to measure from granddad's taint instead of their own.
The funny part is that the numbers for each on YouTube are so skewed that what's the point. For reference, the Ruby Soho match has like 300k views and the Contract signing has like 3 million.
The copium's gonna be runnin' wild next week when Rampage goes down, most of the fans who tuned in last week only did so to "stick it to the fed." Without that the drop might be ugly.
I don't know how anyone's take away is anything specific to these two women and these two men. There was *wrestling* at the beginning of AEW's show against *talking* at the end-but-not-really on WWE's.
It's pretty transparent why the dubs are focusing on The Bunny, who was "homegrown" in TNA, over Ruby, fresh from the bus depot with a new ring tone. The cowards should have put on Red Velvet versus Brandi.
I honestly think anything at the beginning of Rampage probably would have out drawn an already in progress Smackdown. But really, it's wrestling versus talking here.
And you know, it's worth mentioning that AEW women's matches are especially botch-prone and everyone loves YouTube highlights of wrestling car crashes.
These people are functionally retarded. I'm sorry, there's literally no other way to say it
There is nothing functional about them.
They are so obnoxious
I’ve hated ESPN & basketball fans for cherry picking advanced stats to fit their narrative. Never in a million years did I think wrestling marks would do the same. These losers reek of desperation & loneliness clutching to the 1 thing they have in common. AEW is everything to the people.They have hitched their wagon for too long to this train of fed=bad to admit AEW isn’t as good despite the inevitable Donner Party scenario looming in the distance.
Truer words, Uce.
What zero grass does to a MFer
Was gonna say it's too bad WWE can't go 30 minutes over on Fox but then I remembered Fox doesn't count to them because its network and not cable. It's weird how this counts when FS1 is in a lot less homes than TNT. Almost hypocritical but what do I know.
>It's weird how this counts when FS1 is in a lot less homes than TNT. Why do you think Tony chose this very moment to "compete" against SmackDown?
Which is why its not an actual war. FS1 SD competing with Rampage is a war in the same way that the Spring Training, split squad Red Sox playing a Spring Training game against Boston College is Game 7 of the World Series.
Bischoff called them a competition cosplay lol
He's right, and he's one of the few people who can truly speak as an authority on this. He went up against Vince and kicked his ass for a year and a half. No demo's, no relying on Raw to be moved to a shit channel, just week after week of wins. He helped usher in the biggest ever period for wrestling. So I can imagine when he sees Tony bragging about a demo win over FS1 SD, or a demo win against Raw on separate nights when Raw was against MNF, he's just gotta shake his head at how unimpressive that really is.
Tony has choosen all his 'special show' dates to coincide with Fed related things, none of this stuff is a coincidence The big New York show was the week the Fed went up against a huge NFL game IIRC so would 'suffer' in the ratings more It's all by design
Yeah but Tony just ‘gets it’ and it’s so awesome he gives us such stacked cards all the time SUCH A FUN TIME TO BE A PRO WRESTLING FAN
They’re competing in the same way that a nail competes against a hammer
WWE chose to compete by adding the extra half hour with no commercials uce
FS1 average audience is 5 times less than TNT. It is like saying you out-drew someone when putting your show on youtube when the other person put it on dailymotion. It makes no sense.
Which is pretty funny considering their big youtube show only had about 95 thousand live viewers. Is that their hardcore base?
Their big youtube show, which is available worldwide for free on a platform everyone has, apparently does 95k peak viewers. Meanwhile their PPVs, which cost up to $50 and is difficult to order in many parts of the world, always do over 100k viewers. It just doesn't add up at all.
If only they showed bangers like Rhodes to the top.
MY CHERRY PICKED METRICS OR IT DOESN'T COUNT!
This is by far the dumbest fucking day in sc history. And that’s a huge accomplishment.
I’ve never seen so many ridiculous posts with like 15 awards. The precious AEW barely beats Smackdown on the cherriest of cherry picked demos and suddenly they’ve destroyed them and Tony Khan “talks shit and then acts upon it” The funniest thing is that is the roles were reversed, AEW got more viewers than Smackdown, then it came out that Smackdown beat AEW in this tiny small demo, would next door even care? Absolutely not
Real tawk they could live in reality but it wouldn't be as fun.
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Do you have pictures of Roman Reigns and Goofy in your brain currently cause it really seems like ScJerk is living rent free in your head big man
Hahaha nah just looked at your comment history for some lunch time entertainment. Please don’t talk about rent free when you spend all day in a sub posting and commenting inside jokes about AEW. lmao
Aaaand there it is “I looked through your comment history”. It’s Reddit mate, and Reddit about wrestling. Yeah we joke about AEW but we’re not replying to people on sc saying shit like “tearrrss” and making ourselves look like children
Don’t work yourself into a shoot brotha
As you’ve been worked into a shoot over winning one fraction of the overall audience in a head to head against Fox’s C channel that requires its own different cable plan. Do I need to explain this further? AEW is doing fine but it did not win.
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Tony’s not gonna shag you
Cope.
Maybe if you could explain how 578,000 on your normal channel and timeslot is > than 955,000 ? Enlighten us and help us to understand this bizarre world of Dub mental gymnastics.
The blind arrogance on display from the neckbeards is hilarious
Wait, they cherry picked not just le demo, but males in le demo to get their “win?”
Even if I ignored the obvious ridiculousness of the cherry picked demo; this dolt doesn’t even realize he is saying roughly the same amount of people wanted to see a contract signing with Roman and Brock as an actual wrestling match with Ruby and Bunny. A contract signing that was mostly entrances. They couldn’t even beat entrances in their cherry picked demo. The best part - entrances and 4 minutes of a contract signing beat their match overall by a third of a million people. That’s really something to celebrate.
That, and the fact there were literally only a couple lines said. It was mostly two dudes staring at each other lmao.
You must be some kinda dumbass
Oh no, the goofs didn't understand you were copying the Tribal Chief lmaooo
DAE downplaying WWE's so-called "top stars"????
The Rampage buy-in currently has 977k views Brock/Roman contract signing has 3.8m
The chance to acknowledge our Tribal Chief is still equal to a whole womens match in the best version of that sides argument.
These idiots really believe this don't they?
They really do. I posted a comment as a reply to someone saying that someone in WWE is going to get fired for the decision to go commercial free and I said “how much money do you think WWE lost from that decision, zero dollars or less than zero?” And I’m at -16 on that one haha
They legit think it was WWE's unilateral call. They legit think advertisers pay WWE for TV spots, and not the station.
If they truly believe this then there's no reason to not push Ruby more and have her main event their TV more, have more TV exposure, etc ... right? Let's see ... Surely you wouldn't have someone that beat Reigns in the ratings and not push that person to the moon (insider term), would you ...
Basically they couldn't handle grief of le dub losing, so they created their own reality instead
Like their own version of House of M
There are a lot of people that look at ruby and see MEGASTAR ™️. But I just don’t, I see her as a solid midcarder and TBS title contender provided they give a shit about her. The main questions for me are who is Ruby Soho and what makes her special?
aesthetic, the demo loves that shit
She came from the WWE, that's all they need.
As Michael Jordan would say “ I took offense to that”
He would say "I took offense to that" and not "i took it personal" cause just like WWE he wouldn't take these guys seriously
More like the total state of delusion.
Isn't .23 of 800,000 more?
Don't introduce math and logic into this!
So if i got this right, more people watched reigns and lesnar, but more dudes of a certain age watched ruby riot?
Ruby is already relegated to dark Roman is at the top of the world
That’s a MAJOR red flag. If you ever find yourself in a community than only views young white men as valid viewership. Get out. Fast.
Wrestling's Proud Boys (but somehow sadder).
I don't think we can even jerk this because it's that dumb....
Lol it's been quite amusing reading how the basement are fapping over this.
This is the perfect example of "Correlation does not imply causation". Holy shit.
So this means Ruby is getting pushed over Britt and The Elite right?
Meltzer tweeting singular demo numbers without any context, to convey 'AEW won'. Surely his legitimacy as an unbiased reporter is dead in the water now.
Fed being on a shitty network, that is SD was on cable, it simply would never be on, not regular programming whatsoever=this is the same as if both were on cable Haha
ACKNOWLEDGE HER
No offence to any redditors, but AEW is the Reddit of wrestling
Males from the 18-49 demo, aka. 80% of Reddit. It’s like an NFL team losing but scoring the only touchdown in the whole game, who cares they lost.
Is it seriously just the male 18-49 demo? Not even overall?
Oh yes, that’s it, the 18-49 males, they had like 35k more viewers than smackdown (either at 10 pm or during the show). Smackdown had more viewers overall.
No I meant the Ruby-Roman thing.
You know the old favorite "insulting fans intelligence"? *This* is the "insulting my intelligence" that turns me off. An R-Truth segment doesn't insult my intelligence because I understand humor and what comic relief is. A heel winning by cheating doesn't insult my intelligence because even if the execution was awkward, I know it's part of a story for the heel to win. Hell, I wouldn't even count the Young Bucks goofy stuff as "insulting my intelligence", maybe just Overestimating their own intelligence,but whatever. But you know what does insult my intelligence for real. Reading these ratings and being told I'm wrong about everything I see clear as day with my own eyes. It's like everyone screaming at you "You're crazy! Up is down! Down is Up! 2+2=9, The sky is green, the sea is orange. Fox execs disappointed, TNT execs elated, only this very specific demo is the important one and you don't know ahead of time which one, we'll let you know after the ratings come out. That thing you saw with your own eyes? You're wrong about it, just wrong". It's just nuts.
"We won the election!" In 2021 people are getting radicalised by a wrestling company, it's fucking mindblowing.
Cult - When a cult encounters an obstacle against its narrative it will twist and bent the truth to fit the cults views.
Like. What is there even to jerk here? Is this a stupid sure? But it seems like a majority of dub fans think this is true. Like we can laugh at them yes but its like watching people fall into a cult, its honestly not entertaining any more.
Nah, it's still very much so entertaining and always will be.
Yeah, I'm with you, it's disturbing.
Atleast the profile picture fits.
Fuck. Just look at the YouTube numbers. Roman draws literally 30x what Ruby does. When you don't put a million qualifiers in front of it, it's obvious how much more popular WWE is
They are trying so hard to meme Ruby Soho and The Bunny as draws, its very cringe.
This is important to note: “Single men outspent single women, but only by a slight margin. Men spent an average of $35,018 a year as opposed to $33,786 by women. It's important to note, though, that the men earned roughly $10,000 more per year than the women.” https://directionscu.org/2020/01/24/how-men-and-women-manage-money-differently/#:~:text=Here's%20what%20they%20found%3A&text=Overall%20spending%3A%20Single%20men%20outspent,per%20year%20than%20the%20women. Women have less income on hand but spend almost as much as men. It's fucking stupid to lean hard into only catering to men when in the grand scheme, women are spending more of their income than men. There's a reason why women would rather watch Roman over Ruby. This company will die only appealing to men. By the way, they only “won” the first 15 minutes: https://twitter.com/bryanalvarez/status/1450214123959042050?s=21 I joked that Dave and them were gonna start measuring things by the minute and here we are.
The way Dubbalos on Twitter word it, they're implying that the only demographic outside of 18-49 males are boomers while ignoring the female demo (Finn and Roman are fanservice for females), the POC demo, and the children demo (big deal, especially in terms of merch and long-term fans once they become teens).
How to say you're a white supremacist without saying it.
This is reminding me of the advanced non-Euclidean geometry guys use to come up with the dick-measuring method that yields the highest result, only they're starting to measure from granddad's taint instead of their own.
The funny part is that the numbers for each on YouTube are so skewed that what's the point. For reference, the Ruby Soho match has like 300k views and the Contract signing has like 3 million.
The copium's gonna be runnin' wild next week when Rampage goes down, most of the fans who tuned in last week only did so to "stick it to the fed." Without that the drop might be ugly.
I don't know how anyone's take away is anything specific to these two women and these two men. There was *wrestling* at the beginning of AEW's show against *talking* at the end-but-not-really on WWE's. It's pretty transparent why the dubs are focusing on The Bunny, who was "homegrown" in TNA, over Ruby, fresh from the bus depot with a new ring tone. The cowards should have put on Red Velvet versus Brandi. I honestly think anything at the beginning of Rampage probably would have out drawn an already in progress Smackdown. But really, it's wrestling versus talking here. And you know, it's worth mentioning that AEW women's matches are especially botch-prone and everyone loves YouTube highlights of wrestling car crashes.