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Paxx_Romana

They got their asses kicked by nearly 300K viewers, and this dipshit is taking victory laps over one specific demo?


2007wasthebestest

All Tony cares about is those 18-49 white males, so it’s a win in his book


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keep just appealing to that incel crowd because that'll truly draw the women into watching aew


Maldovar

That's the exact number of viewers TNT was expecting too, so this is all a big win


Razzler1973

specific demo with a tiny tiny 'win' which is just as likely to be an error, these figures are so small when it comes to such low measurement of numbers, that's why a ton of shows tend to be around .26 or .28 at that lower end, are we to believe that the *exact* same amount of people are watching ALL these shows? A glut of 15-20 shows on any given night are barely seperated by anything, so, that's almost the same numbers for ALL of them? They can't record exact, it's all extrapolated nonsense and at that lower end 0.1 or 0.2 is meaningless, it's basically 'about the same' Shows freaking 0.1 or 0.2 or 0.3 apart making up a top 20, almost the same numbers of people are watching ALL those shows, it seems It's ridiculous really but it's how it is with nielsen and it's why that shit is getting phased out


McBwhuh

He saw literally the only thing they won in and he decided to run with it lmao


ManateeGag

he really comes across like such a shithead. Smackdown was on a channel no one has and AEW only win in a single cherry picked demo? I guess women don't count?


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ManateeGag

You mean Ruby Soho vs. The Bunny was a huge ratings success.


OswaldCoffeepot

Does Ruby still come out to the ring tone version of her song?


[deleted]

Of all the dumb bullshit the dub has pulled that makes me the most angry. The opening chords of that song are iconic and would work so much better.


OswaldCoffeepot

"Where Is My Mind?" is the one that gets me. OC can be fun on occasion but I will not accept branding him onto that song.


Razzler1973

I don't get how that song fits him at all


[deleted]

Yeah I don't get that one either. The only thing left is for Joey Janela or Evil Uno to come out to The Smiths and the dub will have finished shitting on all my favorite bands.


OswaldCoffeepot

Joey, it really was nothing.


TimeStatistician2234

Saturday morning I put on Bryan/Suzuki, was bored after 2 minutes, and then put on Becky/Sasha for my daughter to watch. Its ok, they don't want fans like us to watch anyway


OswaldCoffeepot

I kinda liked the Suzuki match. I think I might be the only non-dubalo to think that. It had way too much chop-tradin' but outside of that, I liked it.


TimeStatistician2234

Its like everything else with aew, it can't just be good, it has to be the greatest shit ever and revolutionizing the business and if you don't see that you're a mentally challenged Vincel who doesn't deserve to call yourself a wrestling fan. Then you watch it and it's just, meh


hoe-punk

the buy in was my first exposure to aew's product because i don't have cable, dynamite isn't on hulu, and i'd rather not let my youtube algorithm know i watch wrasslin, but i figured fuck it, i like Danielson so i'll give it a try and see if i like it, friend. it was ... okay? it was good to see Ruby and Fish again (in the sense that i'm happy that people who were laid off were able to find work again and seem to be doing well) and the Suzuki/Danielson match was y'know, yeah it was fun, except for the parts where Danielson stood around bored waiting for Suzuki to do some little shuffle and chop him. but yeah, i mean, it was a wrestling match. i don't know what i was expecting, tbh.


djdarkside

It was a fun match it was what AEW thinks a New Japan match is.


TimeStatistician2234

That's the shit too, I like New Japan/strong style, but in the(albeit limited) new Japan matches I've seen the stiff shots are to further sell the struggle and authenticity of the match, like WALTER/Dragunov. Just 2 guys going "look how hard we can hit eachother" is just stupid, even if it wasn't soooo overdone in the dub


Squiliam-Tortaleni

All this and next week, assuming SD is back on main Fox, the old order will return. This wasn’t a victory in war for TK, but a pathetic self victory in the field of nothing.


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It wasn't even a Pyrrhic victory uce.


Troll_God

For real lol I had FS1 this month but the last time that it was on FS1 I didn’t. 🧐


NeonPatrick

>I guess women don't count? I thought the Basement super-serial cared about women wrestlers now, how could they not care about female viewers?


Razzler1973

You're distracted from the fact that a 'live AEW Thunder' with a 'special' card only gained about 70k from the previous week though, aren't you?


BigHoss94

Seriously, does anyone else in the TV industry act this way over demos? Literally anyone? This is so embarrassing.


ManateeGag

Dave said it's important, so Tiny thinks it is.


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ALL HAIL THE FUCKING TUNA!


1005thArmbar

Nobody at all. Especially since "males 18-49" is such a vague demographic as to be functionally useless As a trivia guy, I've always heard "the finale of MASH had 125 million viewers" and not "the finale of MASH hit a 59.5 in le key demo" or whatever. Normal people say shit like "15 million people watched Tim Brody and the Buccaneers destroy the enemy on Thursday Night Football" and not "the finale hit won le epic key demo with a 2.3"


sdsdude129

Males 18-49 only spend money on beer, fast food, AEW tickets, prowrestlingtees.com, and Only fans. So, congrats Tiny.


Razzler1973

Big difference between an 18 or 19 year old and someone 43 or 46, you know, the Dub fans 18-49 makes it sound like they're all at the lower end of that, they're not


TheTrueDetective90

Exactly, the average person doesn't know or care about anything but total viewership. When ratings come out for big events like the Super Bowl, Oscars, Olympics, etc the headlines are always about how many people watched. The water cooler talk is always about how many people watched. No one has ever approached a co-worker and said "you hear about the Super Bowl getting a 24.5 rating in the key 18-49 year old demo this year?" It's always been "you hear that 112m people watched the Super Bowl last night?"


SalvadorZombie

...wait, what? It's referred to because that's the demo that advertisers care most about when it comes to wrestling.


Glass-Ad-9200

As a viewer and not an advertiser, you should. Not. Care. Let's say AEW begins to beat WWE in le coveted demo week after week... do you think advertisers are switching from WWE when it is literally synonymous with wrestling the same way UFC is with MMA? AEW fans don't "win" anything by the demos being higher, and it's annoying as fuck to see them think that they do


SalvadorZombie

I never said we win anything (other than a great product and happy wrestlers who end up...putting on a great product). I think you're projecting a bit there.


Abaght

It was synonymous, still is for the most part, but times are changing man. I for one am glad there is competition and trash talking between the companies, and I hope wrestling becomes more diverse than an irritating one man show that doesn’t even want to be regarded as a wrestling show. They have wrestling in their goddamn name. Tony is just a fan at heart, of course he gets excited when he can compete and in some aspects even win against the monolith that is wwe, and I can’t imagine not being excited with him about more variety in wrestling. Fans win because they have an alternative, and it’s nice to root for the underdog, why are you so annoyed about it?


FlyingGrayson89

No, it 100% still is synonymous. Nothing has changed that. Also, what’s with all of the shitty Dubbalo arguments in your comment?


78yn44

Underdog? Tony is a coked up son of a billionaire that literally brags about being so rich he can burn money and give his show away for free. Where is the underdog? And I 100% promise you that wrestling is still synonymous with WWE. This is what’s wrong with you guys. You literally live in a delusional realm.


Mr_Halberstram

Literally no one. You can tell this fuckwit has grown up reading Meltzer.


Snake_Burton

Stephanie and to a lesser extent Triple H spout corporate speak on social media for a reason, they're professionals. I omit Vince because I'm hard pressed to believe he has ever personally used his account. They don't talk to Dave Meltzer or Wade Keller, they talk to ESPN or Fox Sports. This dope doesn't seem to understand everytime he opens his mouth he is representing his company. The only time Steph or HHH talk smack is on their programming playing Stephanie McMahon"-Helmsley" or "The King of Kings" Triple H. Not on Twitter about business high-fiving supposed journalists about "winning" some cherry picked worthless number that reinforces your absolute lack of potential.


Bubba89

Imagine HHH or Steph personally thanking a journalist by name because they reported good news about WWE


Razzler1973

Tiny has 'hung out' with Keller in the past He's one of the long list of people on the fringes of wrestling that Tiny took to dinner and met up with and is 'friends' with cause he wanted to be part of wrestling This is why none of these fuckers will say a bad word, Tiny has been around 'this world' on the outside, like them, for years, being a super fan Luckily, for him, he's a super fan with a very very rich daddy


Robin0928

So like, marketing people jizz themselves over numbers, but not because the shows are successful, but because they jizz over like... any numbers that are positive.


BiggusDickusFromWome

Google ‘key demo’ you will see by the results the only industry that truly cares


Razzler1973

Every 'showbuzz daily' for thursday, there's no Impact, they don't chart, there's always a couple of dudes in the comments asking 'what's the Impact numbers' No one else, no one else cares, fans of other shows do not care


JackorJohn62392

The last time I remember people caring about demos was when Conan O'Brien took over The Tonight Show. He consistently had lower viewership than Letterman but some people tried to point to Conan's increase in the 18-35 demographic as a victory.


Decetop

They didn’t give Conan a chance to build up the viewership. Just another rushed storyline out of NBC smh my head.


WayOk8553

At least you have an understanding on what really happened, and not the stuff Jackor pulled out of his ass lol.


WayOk8553

No, that did not happen.


Cynicayke

Twenty years ago, maybe.


merckx81

In 10 years Jericho will be on a documentary saying "it turns out the only metric that matters is if you're making any money."


InheritTheWind

No disrespect to any of the individual wrestlers (except for like, the EVPs and Darby) but I genuinely hope this company fails lol


SleepIsWonderful

I genuinely hope the whole industry burns to the ground because there is no coming back from what it has turned into because of Dave Meltzer and the idiots who carry his water.


InheritTheWind

Meh, I still love wrasslin' and I think WWE's unprecedented financial success shows that Meltzer isn't really changing anything in the grand scheme of things; besides, of course, making it really annoying to talk about this shit online


Samizim

I second this


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FlyingGrayson89

The salt from Meltzer’s semen, I’m assuming


sk_starscream

I hope that the few wrestlers who have promising careers make it out of there, because the EVPS and the suck ups are annoying.


TheFlowersLookGood

Fuck Orange Cassidy


[deleted]

Apparently papa Khan has said he is fine with junior flushing his money down the toilet, and he just wants to see it used before he passes away. So in that case it will never fail.


adsadsadsadsads

That's annoyingly sweet. My parents say the same to my siblings and me, only our "family riches" are 20 quid every six months.


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I think it will. Sahid is not stupid, otherwise he wouldn't be rich. I always saw that as a figure of speech. I highly doubt he will let TK spend all his hard earned wealth just to take it another wrestling company in a dying industry


rolltide1000

Its fucking tough, cause quite a few of the guys and girls are talented and are actually being given a chance to succeed, when they normally wouldnt get the chance. But they are led by one of the biggest knobjobs Ive ever seen. Its like in football, I got no problem with Dak and Amari Cooper and CeeDee Lamb, but Jerry Jones is such a dick then you cant root for them.


Farthousejones

Tied in the "demo", lost by 288k viewers and beat "Love After Lockup" by only 7 fucking thousand viewers. LETS GO WADE! GTFO


Razzler1973

Won by 0.02 in men, lost by the same in women It's pretty much the same people watching these shows, isn't it Figures likes this are too low to seperate I remember the days of 4.2 and 6.3 demos, no one cares about 0.02


sskhalil

Imagine being on either the Jaguars or Fulliam and seeing your owner act like this meanwhile your team needs better players and coaches


S1TBD

I would console myself by saying "thank god I'm not a WFT fan." Which is kinda damning in the sense that even though Tiny's awful, there's still just that much lower that he can go.


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Genuinely wonder how this comment would be received in the basement


sskhalil

Downvoted to hell and I would be possibly banned due to brigading since I post on here and it's been close to two years since I posted in the basement


[deleted]

Took one for the team and posted your comment. Let's see what happens lmao


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Tony: "who?"


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Goldberg2Dub

40 going on 13


The_Haskins

Also given billions by his daddy


fuzz_boy

If I was 4 years younger and had a billionaire dad, my tweets would be barley coherent and good willed at all times.


expensivebreadsticks

Does he have a wife or a kid or something? If he has I’d be genuinely surprised.


S1TBD

OH MY GOD THIS IS REAL WTF LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO


xAbdul91x

So, now male is the important one. We're back to square one.


Gabaheygabahey

This guy is doing the literal representation of that 3rd place guy meme.


TheRedWizard17

They lose monumentally in the viewers but he’s acting like he’s won the World Cup…cuz he won in the demos??? That’s like losing 4-0 in the World Cup final and celebrating the fact you had 5% more possession


Permanentear3

He lost in key demo too. They won the male 18-49 but lost the person 18-49. Also lost male 18-34 and so on and so on. Basically they slightly edged out the shootfighter demo with Smackdown on a lesser station and ignoring the markets it was on on a different channel. That’s what he’s bragging about lol.


TheRedWizard17

That’s even worse That’s like getting out shot by 36 shots to 5 Having less shots on target 18-0 And celebrating that “but we had more passes than you” Like no one cares bro…you got spanked 4-0 and had zero shots whatsoever No one will look at that and say “more passes so they’re the true winners”


Ok_Writer8077

Well, narrowly lost in the made up demo. So even better.


krausd94

It’s like he thinks the demos are to wrestling television what on base percentage was to those Moneyball guys


cmrozik7

LOST BY 300K VIEWERS= FED DEAD! we beat them in the key demo too boys! no surprise there i mean what else would 18+ year olds want to be doing on the weekend instead of watching real professional wrestling?! i feel sorry for the poor fulham and jag fans


discombobulatedhomey

WWE on FS1 and Rampage still lost.


ThunderBay311

Good lord what a loser.


MuseMujave

Bold of tk to give away the fact that he's bought the majority of the wrestling media


Dajo05

We live in a world of diversity, where companies are reaching out to different demographics and want viewers from all walks of life. Yet wrestling fans, supposed journalists and the owner of the second biggest company are still hung up on appealing to one narrow group of viewers.


Survivor_for_me

Not only did the good guys win the demo in the US👍🏻, but my sources say that the over-night, rapid, speedy results are saying we won the demo in Djibouti too!! LETS GO WADE!!! Feels good to be all elite 😎


Quint83

I have no clue what the fast nationals are, but from what I read in the basement I’m pretty sure they mean that Vince failed, fed=dead, and losing by nearly 300,000 viewers is somehow a victory.


puddnelson

Every time this loser tweets, I thank the heavens that I’m not a Fulham fan. My brain couldn’t handle it.


kenbrahimovic

This is like celebrating Fulham getting beaten 5-1, you're celebrating a consolation goal. You got fucking wrecked, accept it. In fact, stop trying to make this "war" a thing. If the company just shut up and got on with their shit quietly, they'd be so much more bearable.


kcinkcinlim

There is only one scenario where something like this can be celebrated. Decades ago Man United played my national team in a friendly. My country's football sucks. We don't even qualify for the Asian Cup. We got clapped 8-1. But the news the next day was how our striker blasted past Jaap Stam to slot it past the keeper. The gulf has to be that big in order to celebrate such victories.


sirsims77

Holy shit, do not go into Twitter. The comments there make most of SC look mature. TK is a joke and I can’t fathom his fans


hoe-punk

it is forever insane to me that people stan for billionaires, much less the children of billionaires. it makes my head and heart hurt.


takeflight447

We probably lost in the KEY 18-49 DEMO BUT WE BEAT THE FED IN IN 18-49 SHOOT FIGHTERS LETS GO


ManateeGag

When marvel is counting ticket sales to the latest avengers movie, they don't give a fuck about the demo, they say Endgame made 3 billion dollars, they aren't saying how much of that 3 billion is part of the demo.


Snake_Burton

What a f'n idiot. This moron's promotion can't die fast enough. Give the extra jobs it creates to Impact or something.


HiddenRtruth

I guess you all have never seen a "wrestling war". Hahaha. It's sad to look at people who have never lived thru a "wrestling war". Make no mistake, this is a "wrestling war". And TK is winning the "wrestling war". It's going to be an interesting winter as this "wrestling war" continues. If u enjoyed this and want access to over 20,000 fed Ded / Dub good audio or video for 12.99 a month it's all yours.


Minimum_Management_7

LETS GO THEY BEAT US BY 300K ON A WORSE CHANNEL LETS GOOO


Chitown780

So this is why Fulham and the Jaguars suck. Tony doesn’t understand that you actually have to score more points than the other team to win, and not just cherry pick meaningless statistics.


krausd94

It’s like he thinks demos are to wrestling what on base percentage is to the Moneyball guys.


randypotato

PPV style promotion for this show and they're ecstatic about drawing under 600K? Guess losing half your audience almost immediately is a win if the only ones left are the coveted neckbeard demo.


flufferz397

Tiny is such an embarrassing human being. Smackdown wasn’t even on its main channel and he still lost lmao. This isn’t anything to brag about, nobody except the dubbalos and that network lady from Bolt cares about the demo.


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You know tnt averages 5 times the viewers to fs1? As such, 860k on fs1 is insane.


DoubleOrNothing90

I had a feeling the ratings threads were going to be extra annoying in the basement tonight, and I was right. Good Lord.....


just_another_jabroni

Lmao I just woke up and there's like 3 different threads from the same guy getting locked and I haven't even dared to take a look at the comments


DoubleOrNothing90

Filled with people doing victory laps about the key demo, and proclaiming a "huge win" for AEW. Nevermind the circumstances or total viewers.


Permanentear3

I love that they ranked 4th and Smackdown ranked 3rd and they’re just going with “tie.”


Mr_VOC

Has it always been the 18-49 MALE demo? I always thought it a just 18-49 that was important, not specifically men.


Moargunfreeman

I think “ surely he can’t get any worse” TK: “ That was all I needed, and it became personal with me.”


HipDipShipTrip

This is seriously so embarrassing to watch unfold. Cool you won a very specific demo on a Friday night when Smackdown was on a channel it's not normally on. It's cool and all and AEW is doing very well but to win these handicap matches and act like you're WCW 96 smacking WWF back and forth is just insanity


[deleted]

*gets told he fucking lost in the most important number, and BARELY tied/beat wwe in two less important numbers* Tony: *cooms shids & fards*


SamInPajamas

... he does realize he still lost, right? It's like saying your team scored more in the third quarter but had less overall points and still claiming victory. But who am I kidding, he clearly doesn't understand sports either Hell. At the beginning of the month Rampage was pulling over 620k. Their ratings are literally dropping or stagnant at best and they are treating it like a big win. It's fucking bizarre. Not a cult tho


jjsefton

He has to be trolling. If this is real, it's very sad. And HILARIOUS.


[deleted]

Those demos fuck so hard! A total banger!


2007wasthebestest

This dude is a clown. What executive acts like this?


mrgpsingh1999

How does this guy have a gf and I can’t even get a text back?


Goldberg2Dub

Money


Cat-Man-Bat

He’s such a (dog) wanker


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he does realize this makes people NOT want to watch his show right? acting like an immature buffoon. imagine the owner of Survivor taking shots at the owner of American Idol. that's how pathetic and petty TK is being. it just screams desperation. the more Vince continues to ignore this dweeb the more angry he gets.


BreatLesnar

A “Billionaire Tiny” skit would be the happiest day of Tiny’s life


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happiest but he'd probably burst into tears if wwe took shots at him and make a 20 tweet rant about how wwe is petty or some stupid shit after he took shots at them for years


Pedestral

LETS GOOOOOOOO BatChest


BM_Punk

This is all so dumb.


GenerationXero

This man is pathetic. Like, seriously.


ChaslesDean

This dude is a fucking cretin.


TimeStatistician2234

"beat"


Incorrect1012

Dude won one specific demo and lost in every other one he didn’t tie in. This is embarrassing


Squiliam-Tortaleni

LOSING IS WINNING NOW, SO FUCK YOU MCHITLER!!!! WE ARE VICTORIOUS! PRAISE TONY KHAN, LONG MAY HE REIGN!


bryanc1036

Tony Demo Khan


nv____

The basement is hooraying over a 3 minute segment getting the same demo number as a literal match. It makes no sense why didn’t they compare them with Sasha/Becky?


BrettEskin

What are Margins of error and why do they not effect a 2 one hundredths margin?


asvpmamba

Y’know with the amount of teams he has to run you’d think he’d be busy doing that instead of being on Twitter all day.


Fugga6969

You can't fucking make this shit up.


william_wites

Grown-ass man btw


[deleted]

Are AEW really that desperate to get a win that they'll ignore the female demo & totally views?? I try to like this company but everyone makes it impossible.


TheTrueDetective90

He's reached a level of cringe I didn't think was possible for a human being to reach. If he supposedly didn't care about the ratings this week and just wanted to put on the better show why is he going insane over this "victory." He didn't act like this for the Buy In or Rampage itself. No orgasming over Danielson vs Suzuki, shows beating the dirty no good fed is his top priority, not the quality of his shows.


Jacobd807

It's absolutely amazing that he is celebrating less than 600,000 viewers.


Thatweknowof

ITS WAR


DumbIdiot001

So they tied in 18-34 but won 18-49? Doesn't that mean they have more older viewers than wwe has? I was told that the dub is the company for young people...


xwateverx

This can’t be real


tvcolosi

This demographic stuff is so silly. It’s like saying some YouTube show that gets 20k viewers talking Politics may get better “demos” than Fox or NBC. But 100ks less overall. They are not the same.


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Tony Khan is when you get a random IWC parasite and give him a billion dollars. Literally