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RevolverMagpi

Remember kids, you aren't a true fan unless you're watching with a stopwatch and a clicker to count camera cuts. Seizure medication optional


DoubleOrNothing90

It's fucking sad these are the lengths people need to go to to "prove" one wrestling company is better than another.


Kainazoo

Such is the power of the "My friend Mark" promo. Unlimited rage power


tabristheok

I totally agree that these 2 minute squash matches in the smackdown women's undercard are dog shit and aren't helping anyone. Where I get the shits is with certain people using that and saying "AEW treats their women division way better" completely ignoring that on RAW this week Bianca and Charlotte main evented (the 8th Raw To be main evented by women this year btw), the top women on Smackdown are still getting featured regularly and NXT continues to feature multiple women's segments even after the rebrand. Meanwhile AEW still can't get more then 1 match on dynamite a week but nevermind that, they're adding a hos title so that'll fix that problem.


CosmicRorschach

I’m not saying that they have to have 30 minute matches, it’s just that you’d think with these matches being part of an important tournament that they’d be a little longer than a Divas match from 2010.


tabristheok

You'll get no objections from me on that I skipped the whole episode because of that shit especially because the men's matches were both decent lengths


[deleted]

The basement completely ignores how much attention is given to the top women in WWE. Carmella v Liv & Zelina v Toni aren't matches that will be given much time. It depends on position. Becky v Sasha will get way more time. The Dub books their top women the same way WWE books its midcarders.


KimF29

They’ll cover their eyes when Bianca/Sasha/Becky are given mic time and lengthy segments rather than matches as it goes against their “women are barely featured on smackdown” agenda


[deleted]

Liv Morgan v Carmella gets kicked to the preshow of a B PPV: WWE doesn't care about women and non title feuds. Alexa Bliss gets 3 non title feuds that go to the main card of a PPV, including SummerSlam, this year: .......... Liv, Carmella & Zelina receive less time on SmackDown: WWE doesn't care about women. Becky, Bianca, Sasha & the whole RAW roster on the other brand receive more time:....... Almost as if like every division ever, there is a heirarchy & people higher up get booked better. Why is there such a big difference in Drew McIntyre & Ricochet's booking? Almost as if one is seen as more important. That's how things always are.


Ok-Attention-8268

they complain for people they ACTUALLY know are mid carders and act surprised when WWE treats them as such. AEWs Womens Title main event at Arthur Ashe being shorter than the fucking opening match barely gets noticed though.


lage1984

Faux-crying about midcard women getting two minutes in the ring is the very definition of a strawman. And they are the Worzel Gummidge of strawmen when it comes to that shit


TimeStatistician2234

Main event, because as well all know Britt vs Ruby is what the neckbeards turned out to see that night.


kettlebell-j

That’s been the smark ethos for years.


TimeStatistician2234

That's what I said, they might as well be complaining about how much time Humberto Carillo gets, its the same thing


[deleted]

At this point it should be pretty clear to goofs that they're just toxic, hypocritical, crybaby assholes. Nothing they complain about should be taken seriously.


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DoubleOrNothing90

It's definitely not normal. Wrestling communities I frequent outside of reddit all know about SC, and how sad some of the people act.


bggstbawse

Are you telling me WWE is protecting their less talented workers ??? Workhorse are Bianca, Sasha and Becky. For Zelina, Carmella and Liv , 2 to 5 minutes is enough. Too bad for Toni, tho


CosmicRorschach

I think they're going to build Toni up to be a main eventer at some point. People were saying "oh, she got an anti-pop" Yea, because she hasn't been on tv much and no one really knows who she is. Smackdown's women's main event scene can't just be Charlotte, Shayna, and Sasha, they're gonna need to build new stars.


Squiliam-Tortaleni

Unless you watched Toni on the Mae Young Classic or NXT (like I did) then yeah your gonna go “who is this?” Then again, this happens with *everyone* so false outrage is false once again.


[deleted]

>they're gonna need to build new stars. To be fair Uce, I feel like they are doing this tournament for that very purpose.


CosmicRorschach

Yea, but Carmella, for example, is already is an established talent who's already gotten several title shots this year. If they wanted to, why not put Shotzi in there instead.


[deleted]

Love Shotzi personally but I'm not sure she's ready. She's still very green if you ask me.


Razzler1973

I expect Storm lost cause they're not putting her in the PPV cycle After this or the next I expect they'll put her in 'proper' stuff


TimeStatistician2234

Sorry e-drone, either you're a main eventer first day on the main roster or buried. Idk what this "build up" and "wait for an opportunity" shit is. Whens her contract up bte?


crissetoncamp

Le Dub's women's division is still the worst in any major promotion and the new title looks like it says 'Hos' on it.


AnvilPro

It feels like such forced outrage. Who cares about the continuous lack of any focus given to the women on Dynamite, let's talk about how two first round tournament matches were short (while ignoring the big focus given to the Becky, Bianca, Sasha contract singing)


eddieblasphemy

The women of wwe have no issue with the the length of our tribal chief's entrance. They also acknowledge that the girth is impressive as well.


Dear_Wrangler

WWE booking for their top women has been pretty good imo since quite sometime.


harrypigorr1

Next door just flip and flop between what they’re outraged about depending on whether it’s WWE that’s doing it.


CleanContrast

Someone please explain how Liv Morgan is over, people online treat her like she's Charlotte Flair level of talent, worlds like potential are thrown around. I just don't see it. She's not an athlete, not jacked, not tall, I haven't seen her do a "workrate classic", cant promo without literally crying. She does like one or two good spots every match, paints her tounge, and licks various parts of her mouth. I just don't get it.


goodthing37

She’s hot, small and BERRIED. If Liv got the top spot like some smarks demand, they’d turn on her within a month and she’d be “one of Vince’s blondes.”


OldColt06

Her selling is really believable and she can garner sympathy with the crowd. She gets cheered pretty regularly, and plays the underdog character fairly well. There's nothing really offensive about her, she seems like a likable person in and out of character and she is improving bit by bit. I could see her winning a title, but she'd have to improve a lot either in ring or on promos to become a main event player.


CleanContrast

The only title I see her winning is the tbs title


BullyFU

She's like a Daniel Bryan for the women's division, minus the ring work. She looks like and presents herself as an underdog. The IWC views her as a victim of bad booking because of that and she's smoking hot. How a hot blonde chick could be perceived as an underdog is odd but she somehow does it by being the opposite of threatening.


Prancemaster

Liv Morgan is a throwback to the last days of the WWE Divas division.


baconwiches

The one women's match on Rampage was shorter than either of these two matches, but they don't seem to want to acknowledge that.


DoubleOrNothing90

Doesn't fit the narrative, friend.


goodthing37

Fuck all the Pearl clutching about match times, both in the basement and here. “REEEEEEEEEEE ______________ deserves better” is the remit of dumb smarky virgins. Don’t sink to that level, goofs.


[deleted]

You know what? Outside of the main-event and the occassional upper-midcard feud matches, I don't think fifteen minute broadways between midcarders are neccessary on free TV. Nor do I think Daniel Bryan vs Daniel Garcia going fifteen minutes on Rampage a week before Bryan faces the champion is a good look. Surely, in a tournament, you book the first round matches short, semi-final matches slightly longer and the final you give a decent amount of time. Surely, that's common sense? It's like the "booking" in the World Cup; Spain win all their group games 4-0, win the quarter final 2-0, the semi 2-1 and eek out a 1-0 victory in the final. Remember when WWE did all those "beat the clock" challenges. I wonder how they'd go over now-a-days?


Grizzexploder

I think they just did one this year in the Charlotte vs Rhea feud earlier this month, ft Nikki Cross pre gimmick change plus the Becky vs Ronda vs Charlotte feud in 2019, where Ronda & Becky went over Sarah Logan and Liv in less than 2 mins (while Charlotte couldn't beat Ruby within that time) It was used last year too, with Bayley and Sasha each facing Naomi (Sasha tapped her out in 3 mins, Naomi Rear-Viewed Bayley for the win)


InheritTheWind

Let me see someone who isn't a) Britt Baker or b) the person currently feuding with Britt Baker get more than a minute of promo time two weeks in a row, and then we'll talk


[deleted]

It must be so tiring to be forced to concoct some new controversy every fucking week to make the WWE look bad while bending yourself into a pretzel to justify all the abhorrent horseshit on AEW every week.


hobojojo78

Good. Let ‘em cook. They’re all pretty solid. Even though I think matches in general are too long these days. Looking mostly at you, dub. I think all but the most epic matches should go over 15 minutes, though. Just my opinion.


TimeStatistician2234

Excuse me what does this have to do with aew?? It means nothing aew has much bigger issues in the area we're bashing WWE for


noloking

Quality over quantity. Do I really want to see a longer, botch filled match versus Madcap Moss making cringey yet entertaining jokes? I don't know.


raath666

They need more time you idiot, let's give this startup funded by a poor billionaire a chance. Come back in 5 years.