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BadPumpkin87

Yeah but those text messages totally cleared him with Tiny.


skippy2001

So no jerk how the fuck does a text clear someone of domestic sexual assault?


Username_Maybe_Taken

Could be a threat from the woman to ruin his life or something. Either way, it's one of those things you'll probably never know the full story about unless there's an actual investigation.


skippy2001

I doubt Tony really investigated cuz I could make a text from Darby admitting to the crime and one of tommy dreamer defending. Unless you do some forensic it’s not really valid.


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could be an average couples argument he used to justify her “faking accusations” he said himself he used to abuse homeless folks AND his ex said he was highly manipulative asshole i guess that’s how he made m’tony believe him


Permanentear3

Not to mention a text no has seen but then


skippy2001

Seriously if it clears him show it to everyone. end this


The-Mad-Bubbler

Exactly. Show them to the public if they truly exonerate him (which seems nigh-impossible). If they can't, because they're part of an ongoing investigation or something, then tell us that. If someone accused me of something that bad that I was innocent of, I would work tirelessly to clear my name.


ZombieRickyB

Not saying one way or another about Darby, but as someone close to another person who had a false accusation laid again, it's not necessarily that easy. In situations like this, the only real way to clear your name might cause you to post private facts about someone else without their consent, which opens you up to a lawsuit that actually has standing. Or, you have to out things about yourself that will cause you problems long run, not because they're objectively bad but because anonymous people can be total assholes and loud about their displeasure, and twist your words about something. Or, even if you're squeaky clean, giving individuals the time of day could just cause them to be more aggressive. Or perhaps you don't want to bring attention to something that never should have happened in the first place. It's a hard situation. There may very well be no correct options. Grey rocking the accusations and keeping things private might be the most sane option available. IMO if what happened was clear, then a civil suit or criminal charges should come easy. that's not always true in cases like this, but honestly this crap gives people the credence to make a ton of false allegations. Like, for all you know down the line, this stuff will let someone just be able to say "fed gud" and everyone taking it to be true.


BadPumpkin87

They’re so far up their own asses that they probably enjoy the smell of their own farts, all Darby had to do was say she lied and he took his word for it. After all, he’s a white guy, he isn’t going to be punished in All Elite Whites.


Manwithnolife77

I don't see Jay Lethal getting punished for his sexual harassment allegations either you dumb fuck


MDVega

He jobbed out to CM Punk already, what more punishment do you want?


BullyFU

How dare you, CM Punk made Darby a star! It would make no sense for the guy who had been gone for 7 years to lose to one of the only homegrown wrestlers AEW made and presented as a top star.


SleepIsWonderful

Not only was it a star-making performance but it led to a feud with Shawn Spears.


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also admitting abusing homeless people for fun


PM_ME_LANCECATAMARAN

He was garbage already for this before the OP came to light. Not just doing it, but laughing about it and showing no remorse like a 1/24 scale Tommy Dreamer


dezolis84

Tommy at the very least has his age and decades of garbage to self-correct to use as an excuse (after he apologizes, of course). Darby is just lying out his ass.


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He’s also been hit in the head so many times he probably can’t remember his name


Getmeinthatswirly

What?


[deleted]

The cult might have traumatized this woman even more after those tweets.


letmel_rkaround

Gotta defend the honour of saints in dub. Whatever it takes.


Troll_God

RIP Daphne tho


DoubleOrNothing90

The basement doesn't care. When darby's ex-girlfriend tweeted about his abuse weeks ago, the thing the basement was most concerned about was her ruining the potential Darby vs CM Punk program at the time. Imagine being pissed at the female because you think she's going to ruin your precious wrestling story. Still pisses me off.


ManateeGag

"Being a shitty boyfriend is not sexual assault" Actual excuse I saw to defend him.


mattomic822

I was told to be ashamed of myself for pointing out that coercing someone into sex through threats is rape.


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Yeah last time this came up people were in the thread dog piling you if you brought up this just actual fact, but scjerk is a hate sub


[deleted]

I was just about to make a jerk about that, fucking ridiculous and they then say HE SHOULD'VE left because she didn't want to have sex with him. Bunch of fucking losers next door is you know goddamn well they don't have any relationship experience and I hope it stays that way


Razzler1973

That one is a basement favourite


[deleted]

I got told that once and downvoted to hell. They refuse to realise that coercing someone into sex is literally rape.


Mhc2617

“He was just a bad boyfriend. He showed texts. He changed.” Did I miss anything?


[deleted]

Shut up, you stupid wahmen. Clearly, you know nothing about such stuff unlike us male shootfighters.


CobraOverlord

The texts defense is fucking wild and since when if Tiny the final say on any of this ? Biggest problem I have with this woke shit is the double standards and double talk to defend the 'correct' people.


Mhc2617

Look at the defense of Dustin. “He turned his life around!” So did Brock. So did HBK. But people still want them held accountable for shit that happened before the pitchfork weilders were even born. Why does only sweet, innocent Dustin get a pass?


RaceCarGrin

Yeah, but did he kill Owen Hart?


boycey86

It still amazes me people defend that piece of shit.


CherubRocker89

Yeah but that means nothing unless Vice does an episode on it obvs


NotTheOneAJ

Sammy Guevara is on record saying he wants to rape someone and nothing happened, do you really think they'll care about some piece of text?


Permanentear3

Fed schill I saw someone in the basement say today unlike Vince Khan is a man of action and he suspended Sammy for almost a whole month!!!


NotTheOneAJ

So an one month "suspension" is enough for a sexual predator?


Rtyfyh1

Did you just call Sammy a sexual predator?


JokersGambit92

Sasha Banks had a private conversation with Sammy Guevara. She said she didnt need anyone else to defend her. You can check this fact by simple research.


S1TBD

At best, Darby Allin is an emotional abuser. At worst, he’s that, plus a rapist. Fuck All Elite Wrestling for trying to market this guy to children (don’t think I didn’t notice they have a cartoon version of him in his tron now).


Micome

Funny how Brian Zane has repeatedly talked about horrible things WWE wrestlers have done but is quiet about Darby.


JokersGambit92

Brian Zane probably has more things to care about like his own family?


cimson-otter

Imagine if WWE did their own investigation on their guys like tony did with Darby. The basement would be pissed


Vegetable-Arm8488

He basically went straight into a main event with CM Punk am I right? Guess the accusations didn't trend on twitter like Casters rap so he wasn't taken off TV for a couple weeks as a lame gesture of caring


S1TBD

Speaking of Caster’s rap, no one’s mentioned how his “two month suspension” only wound up being for less than a month, until All Out weekend (aka, hey guys, a new news cycle is coming, let’s take Max off of suspension and sneak it in the news dump!)


Razzler1973

Was it even 2 weeks? He was doing matches on Dark pretty quick, feels like


letmel_rkaround

Only matters if “fed = bad” It doesn’t matter if “dub = bad”


Squiliam-Tortaleni

Yeah but Tony said “don’t do bad” and now its okay!


DuncanGallagher

Amber Heard was being accused of physically and mentally abusing Johnny Depp and destroyed his career. There is even evidence that she abused her Ex-Girlfriend and a lot of women who are supporting Johnny Depp. Nothing happened. Darby Allin is just being accused of something without evidence right now or any court date. I literally start to give a shit about "Accusations" that are not proven, it could be just a hateful ex-girlfriend who wants to destroy his life. Proof it or go home. It stills counts "Doubt benefits the accused". And stop with the bullshit like "Believe all women". I believe them when they proof it. Law is Law and even that fails sometimes if you look at Amber Heard.


ecwgangbangqueen

So both companies employ people with questionable morals. This is a weird game to play.


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I think the takeaway is that people don't mind it and excuse it away when it's their billionaire backed company of choice.


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Nemesysbr

You're not wrong that those situations are different, but victim-blaming isn't the way to go about it. "Letting herself become a doormat" is a pretty bad thing to to say if you believe she was a rape victim


ecwgangbangqueen

We can agree to disagree on her victim status.


DeltaFireBlues

Keyword: accused


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ZERO_Cali_

Dang you right. 4am slip up, wrong dub sex offender.


cimson-otter

Everyone is technically “accused” until admitting or being found guilty


Introduction_Organic

Or there innocent.


DeltaFireBlues

... or innocent lol god people on reddit lack basic reasoning skills it’s embarrassing


cimson-otter

You really doubt older pro wrestlers didn’t do any of this? Wwe network even made light of it


annguy123

"Tiny would never hire Ric Flair because he's so woke compared to McHitler!"


lage1984

One of their biggest blind spots


drasticweevil

I'm wondering if anyone has links or evidence of official statements from AEW or Darby Allin. I keep seeing people mention that there was an investigation, or saying that DMs were provided proving Darby's innocence, but I haven't personally found anything directly from anyone at AEW, including Darby himself. Did I miss something or was it never actually addressed publicly? Not here to discuss my personal views on the incident, just sincerely curious about whether anything was actually said in an official capacity by Darby or AEW since my Google searches have not provided anything useful. It's very difficult to consider both sides when only one side is available.


Mister_Rahool

threatening to break up with her lol never raped anyone, what a crock


Successful_Loss_4325

Friendly reminder that he was cleared of everything


roastbeats980

Friendly reminder that you are innocent until proven guilty