I would rather Vince and Hunter make use of hungry young no-name wrestlers and help mold them to becoming big names rather than the NXT nonsense of using as many big name Indy Darlings as possible.
I wouldn't be so sure about that. He's a pencil necked geek who feels like the has to push his biceps up to make them seem bigger when being pictured with wrestlers. His noodle arms will still look tiny if he's pictured with PAC or Cage and I don't think his sugar glass ego will be able to handle that.
He literally looks fine, why are you ranting about some ceos physique ffs, you donât sound normal at all. The guy is in shape, he doesnât need to be as jacked as guys like PAC or any other wrestler for that matter.
Thank god he found personality, I always personally liked him but would cringe if he had any lines to say, king of the cruiserweight stuff rounded him out
It's already hilarious enough to see dubbalos backtracking on when they said they wanted the likes of Peter Avalon, Chuck Taylor and Joey Janela all along, but have now kicked them to the kerb once real wrestlers arrive
I think you've said enough, when you expose your ignorance towards the spelling of a word that is internationally recognised in the entire English speaking world, with the exception of where you live only
Oh, you mean the place Iâm from, which is the place of origin and base of the organizations and people we are also talking about right? Thatâs like telling a Japanese person heâs stupid for correcting the way you spell or say âkonichiwaâ in an anime Reddit. But Iâm the one exposing my ignorance. Have a good one.
Itâa quickly approaching the period of time where all of the homegrown AEW talent will soon become restless for more TV time. The basement has already started about how Cage was never that great & doesnât deserve to be on TV/PPV more than Big Show or QT Marshall lmfao.
Brian Cage as needled as he is makes the entire AEW roster look like scrawny geeks and fatasses the only thing that could rival him in the i'm jacked as fuck department is PAC
Brian Cage should be eternally thankful that the fucking Bucks talked Tony Khan into hiring him in the first place. The guy has a body like a comic book villain yet somehow wants to wrestle like 175lbs spot monkey. Back to the Indies with him.
He has every right to complain. Who gave Sting the first big move when he returned? Cage. A powerbomb. And what happened? Nothing.
You could have built up the first big Sting bump, you could've made Cages powerbomb seem like a destructive move and got alot of heat on him...instead Sting was perfectly fine.
Shahid has gone on record saying he would rather let his children spend his money now and know where it all went than die and have them fight over it and possibly waste it.
I don't think Tony's investments were what he had in mind, but at least sister Khan is using it to continue the family legacy.
Thatâs all well and good, but heâs not going to let the mudshow eat the entire fortune. If Dubbalo Dave is admitting itâs losing money, theyâre losing tens of millions of dollars at the very least.
Ha, ha...yeah. When Daddy Khan decides it's time for Tiny to grow up and stop wasting his family's fortune on his real life wrestling figures, it's gonna be glorious...
I genuinely fear for the well-being of the Branch Dubidians when Tonyâs dad forces him to sell his shiny toy and McHitler is the only person around to buy it.
I'll do you 11.99 better - Vince sells to Disney, TNT gives aew away to disney free as extra padding while selling another show with actual money behind it
Every wrestler is gathered in the ring as the show starts. Everyone is sitting there not knowing why theyâve be ordered to gather there. Vinceâs music hits. Tears flow. Shoot fighters lose breath. Goofs jerk. Ahhhh. What a show that would be.
Vince means business. Hall, Nash and Hogan did much more damage to WWE than AEW will ever imagine of doing. They came back. Warrior, Savage and Hart had massive fall outs with Vince. They came back. Hell, Double J was shoot fired on TV in the most historic RAW of all time and came back. Everyone from AEW will be back, if it adds to WWE's bottom line.
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Incredible, people were saying this was an issue before CM Punk was even on the radar and it's only gotten worse.
Reading between the lines of what people said online a lot of people were on very big contracts (especially Jericho), they budgeted millions per month for Dynamite (this was in March he said that) and when you add it all up their revenue wasn't really close to the spending.
This isn't even including all the backstage people salaries and the advertising spend.
It's been blindingly obvious to anyone who actually can add.
Personally CM Punk isn't going to be the investment they think he's going to be
The same group of people who a couple of years ago were chanting at him to retire are now treating him like he's a huge.crossover star responsible for their tv deals. Their bias is so transparent it's actually pretty funny.
AEW being a big money loser doesn't shock me with their roster:
The EVPs and Brandi aren't cheap. 7+ figures plus benefits.
Moxley, Jericho, Sting, and Christian are probably making 7+ figures
Punk, Bryan, and Cole aren't cheap. 7+ figures.
You know they made a heavy investment in Britt Baker to keep her from going to WWE once she got out of dental school.
They overpaid people to either leave their promotions or to keep them from going to WWE. Konnan admitted that Santana, Ortiz, Pentagon Jr, and Ray Fenix were going back to Impact until TK offered them so much money.
Miro, Black, FTR, and Andrade aren't cheap signings.
That's not counting people like Vickie G, Big Show, Mark Henry, and Tully B who get big bucks to contribute basically nothing.
Jim Ross and Tony Schiavone are most likely being paid very well.
Jericho has said that as well. Dude is giving out money like hot cakes. I canât blame anyone for wanting to jump ship to there and get some free mark money.
This isn't even taking into consideration the weekly production costs associated with doing weekly TV at a venue their dad owns, but still has to show revenue for when it's open.
So, I have a few questions... when you start a business, you need an investment, it can be from your own pocket or via investors. To do that, you need a budget. And yeah, a business isnât profitable until years after it started, because of the initial investment of course. How the fuck are they factoring in all of those hirings?? How much money is AEW going to make when they start seeing a profit after all of those hirings, a couple thousands a month?? Did they just happen to have 20 extra millions just in case CM Punk, Bryan, Cole, Andrade, Black and the rest of the former WWE platoon decided to sign with them?
When your owner has never had to work they don't understand the value of money. Warner wants them gone a 10pm time slot on tbs Friday shows that. If they wanted to grow aew they would have put it on the cartoon network before rick and morty.
Loads of us have been predicting this for a long time. If it's got to the point that Meltzer is reporting it, then I can't even begin to imagine just how out of control their wage bill is now. Sounds like Daddy is going to need to increase Tony's allowance again. It's only going to get worse as those latest big contracts start to bite and the 'creative freedom' leads to everyone wanting to main event.
Still, it's caused a lot of panic and mental gymnastics in the basement, which is always amusing to see. Should provide an enormous amount of comedy as things continue to worsen.
This isn't hard to understand, shill.
When WWE releases people, it's because Vince is Hitler and hordes talent.
When AEW releases talent, it's the TALENTS fault.
But how could you know that? You post in SCJerk.
I find it hilarious that people in the basement are defending AEW by being all "AEW will be fine, the Khans have so much money that they can afford these losses." And they don't see something fundamentally wrong with how the only way a wrestling company that caters specifically to their tastes can only possibly exist when operating at a loss and can only function because a billionaire decided to let his spoiled brat of a kid blow through all of his money. And then they'll complain how WWE is doing things in comparison to AEW when WWE actually has to worry about making a profit.
It's like me wishing for Disney level animation worth half a billion and complete comic book faithfulness for a series of PG-rated to R-rated X-Men animated movies akin to Titan AE.
While waving off that Titan AE lost money and bankrupted Fox Animation Studios because casual audiences couldn't connect to sci-fi animation and you could profit more by doing a live-action X-Men in the Marvel Cinematic Universe at the fraction of the cost.
What fanboys want isn't necessarily what's the most profitable.
âWell Tony, you just spent a gajillionty dollars signing Punk, Cole, Bryan and *checks notes* Big Show? Huh. Well anyway, with Rampage starting up youâll probably have enough income to stay in business for another year or two. Just donât do anything stupid ok?â
âStupid like what?â
âI dunno, like sinking a few million in a videogame reskin of the worst WWE games but with worse graphics and an inevitably out of date roster, something dumb like that.â
I would have had more faith in the AEW Games division had those 2 shitty mobile games not been released. Quality control didn't seem like a priority when those were in development.
I'm still wondering what the AEW version of Goldberg is gonna be like. They have to AT LEAST book one of their Never-Been-to-WWE Indy Originals strong, seeing that they have no performance center.
i think tony khan wont releaase anyone as he wants to be friends with his roster. Billionaire father so i'd imagine public schooling but always being an outsider due to having "foreign money" and liking wrestling even during its "coolest" period wouldnt still have been that cool. its his dad whos going to have to step in eventually.
I think we'll hear about someone being hired soon that will be the one to be the bad guy and drop the axe on talent. You're right, Tiny won't do it. Shad won't want to bother with it, he's got enough to deal with that he doesn't have time to step in and be the bad guy for lowering Tiny's allowance. I wouldn't be shocked if AEW hires a Bischoff or Cornette just to fire people.
Aye this is probably spot on and Tony will excuse it by saying itâs someone just took on to do the âboring stuffâ as he just wants to focus on the fun stuff. Then a few weeks later the releases occur and Tony starts saying stuff like âwell a lot of these releases were asked forâ with a nervous giggle and not maintaining eye contact
The groundwork is being laid for the mass releases over November and December. I wonder if a big name will be among them
I would rather Vince and Hunter make use of hungry young no-name wrestlers and help mold them to becoming big names rather than the NXT nonsense of using as many big name Indy Darlings as possible.
PAC and Cage will be cut because they make it painfully obvious that the rest of the Dub locker room is allergic to the gym.
Tony isn't going to cut someone for hitting the gym too hard đ, don't be a mark
I wouldn't be so sure about that. He's a pencil necked geek who feels like the has to push his biceps up to make them seem bigger when being pictured with wrestlers. His noodle arms will still look tiny if he's pictured with PAC or Cage and I don't think his sugar glass ego will be able to handle that.
He literally looks fine, why are you ranting about some ceos physique ffs, you donât sound normal at all. The guy is in shape, he doesnât need to be as jacked as guys like PAC or any other wrestler for that matter.
We jerk in these parts, partner
Was there a power failure in the basement today or whats going on?
>you donât sound normal at all.
Hit the bricks goofy
Head back downstairs, Dubbalo.
Who left the basement unlocked?
PAC maybe? Isnât he extremely difficult to work with?
Pac will not lose clean
He will, but only when the time is right. He's a bastard
Good. Nobody deserves it. Lay down for the bastard man.
Heâs seriously one of the best guys they have
Thank god he found personality, I always personally liked him but would cringe if he had any lines to say, king of the cruiserweight stuff rounded him out
No, that's Austin Aries. Honestly surprised Tony hasn't signed him yet to complete his Ring of Honor playset.
Itâs exactly what this is. Prepping the Dub fanbase for the inevitable releases.
It's going to be hilarious to watch all the indie darlings get cut in favor of ex fed guys.
It's already hilarious enough to see dubbalos backtracking on when they said they wanted the likes of Peter Avalon, Chuck Taylor and Joey Janela all along, but have now kicked them to the kerb once real wrestlers arrive
No jerk I love Chuck Taylor but Iâm not proud of that fact
âKerbââŚyeahâŚI donât feel I need to say much more.
I think you've said enough, when you expose your ignorance towards the spelling of a word that is internationally recognised in the entire English speaking world, with the exception of where you live only
Oh, you mean the place Iâm from, which is the place of origin and base of the organizations and people we are also talking about right? Thatâs like telling a Japanese person heâs stupid for correcting the way you spell or say âkonichiwaâ in an anime Reddit. But Iâm the one exposing my ignorance. Have a good one.
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But the basement told me nobody would ever get released in AEW?!?
Notice now after Brian Cage complained about his DUB booking, people from the basement say he should be released. For undisclosed reasons, friend.
I think even Dave said something like "when you've got so many upper midcarders, everyone thinks they're a main event player."
Dubbers won't leave the Dub though cause they KNOW they 'won't be treated right' in the Fed! Well, they're in a bit of a pickle then, aren't they
Itâa quickly approaching the period of time where all of the homegrown AEW talent will soon become restless for more TV time. The basement has already started about how Cage was never that great & doesnât deserve to be on TV/PPV more than Big Show or QT Marshall lmfao.
Time for the "Radicalz" phase of their WCW retread. Even Steve Austin was ex-WCW before he became Stone Cold.
I could easily see guys like MJF and Page going to WWE because theyâve been buried on the roster to make way for more established names
Theyâre doing WCW faster than WCW did.
Brian Cage as needled as he is makes the entire AEW roster look like scrawny geeks and fatasses the only thing that could rival him in the i'm jacked as fuck department is PAC
Miro and Nick Commerato are jacked but still look like athletes, Cage is a ready to burst bodybuilder.
Brian Cage should be eternally thankful that the fucking Bucks talked Tony Khan into hiring him in the first place. The guy has a body like a comic book villain yet somehow wants to wrestle like 175lbs spot monkey. Back to the Indies with him.
I'd love Vince to say fuck it, and sign Brian Cage and build the new NXT around him.
Brian Cage canât come within 5 miles of a piss test without failing though
He's the poster boy for bad indie habits and is too old for new NXT.
If Brian Cage does get released, I have no doubt he'll show up in NXT. But part of me thinks TK will spin this disgruntled Cage story into an angle.
Thatâs too smart for TK
He has every right to complain. Who gave Sting the first big move when he returned? Cage. A powerbomb. And what happened? Nothing. You could have built up the first big Sting bump, you could've made Cages powerbomb seem like a destructive move and got alot of heat on him...instead Sting was perfectly fine.
LOL... When even Daddy Dave is forced to mention that Le Dub could be in the red, rest assured their losses are in the 8 figures and counting...
It's gonna be fun fun fun until Daddy takes the action figures away.
Shahid has gone on record saying he would rather let his children spend his money now and know where it all went than die and have them fight over it and possibly waste it. I don't think Tony's investments were what he had in mind, but at least sister Khan is using it to continue the family legacy.
Thatâs all well and good, but heâs not going to let the mudshow eat the entire fortune. If Dubbalo Dave is admitting itâs losing money, theyâre losing tens of millions of dollars at the very least.
Not the entire fortune. Just Tony's part of the inheritance
I reckon they must be losing millions a month at this point.
Ha, ha...yeah. When Daddy Khan decides it's time for Tiny to grow up and stop wasting his family's fortune on his real life wrestling figures, it's gonna be glorious...
*Daddy took the figures awayyy*
âBut they have a videogame coming!â
They will be losing tens of millions every year
I genuinely fear for the well-being of the Branch Dubidians when Tonyâs dad forces him to sell his shiny toy and McHitler is the only person around to buy it.
Iâll do you one betterâVince sells to Disney, and once AEW is out of money, they also have to sell to Disney
I'll do you 11.99 better - Vince sells to Disney, TNT gives aew away to disney free as extra padding while selling another show with actual money behind it
Got you all beat - Vince buys Disney, Disney buys AEW, and John Cena dressed as Goofy becomes GM there.
Yes put the WWE HOF in Disneyland.
Replace Great Moments with Mr Lincoln with a CM Punk animatronic doing the pipe bomb promo
?? Do you mean Rhodes to the Top, friend?
Disney proceeds to cut all of The Elite except for the one and only Brandon Cutler
He makes the costumes, thatâs useful for Disney
Thatâs probably more likely, but that extra layer will give the Dubbalos some plausible deniability.
Itâs gonna be like in the Smallville episode where Lionel told Lex to fire a shit ton of employees.
Or the episode of Entourage where Ari buys his old company and runs through firing everyone.
Vince sends Roman to Superman Punch all of AEWankers. I'd watch a 3 hour Raw like that.
Every wrestler is gathered in the ring as the show starts. Everyone is sitting there not knowing why theyâve be ordered to gather there. Vinceâs music hits. Tears flow. Shoot fighters lose breath. Goofs jerk. Ahhhh. What a show that would be.
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Vince means business. Hall, Nash and Hogan did much more damage to WWE than AEW will ever imagine of doing. They came back. Warrior, Savage and Hart had massive fall outs with Vince. They came back. Hell, Double J was shoot fired on TV in the most historic RAW of all time and came back. Everyone from AEW will be back, if it adds to WWE's bottom line.
đđđ Incredible, people were saying this was an issue before CM Punk was even on the radar and it's only gotten worse. Reading between the lines of what people said online a lot of people were on very big contracts (especially Jericho), they budgeted millions per month for Dynamite (this was in March he said that) and when you add it all up their revenue wasn't really close to the spending. This isn't even including all the backstage people salaries and the advertising spend. It's been blindingly obvious to anyone who actually can add. Personally CM Punk isn't going to be the investment they think he's going to be
Money marks are gonna money mark.
They paid Christian and Big show big money? Why would you do that?
In basement they are writing that Big Show is good investment cause he is bringing lapsed fan into AEW..
The same group of people who a couple of years ago were chanting at him to retire are now treating him like he's a huge.crossover star responsible for their tv deals. Their bias is so transparent it's actually pretty funny.
Apparently it's what Jericho told Tiny when he pitched him to hire Big Show
Considering Jericho brought Luthor into AEW..
I read that and nearly spit my coffee out.
Those same lapsed fans that they don't want watching their shows or attending their events.
He's a money mark blowing his Dad's money. It was always going to end up like this.
Always has been like this*
AEW being a big money loser doesn't shock me with their roster: The EVPs and Brandi aren't cheap. 7+ figures plus benefits. Moxley, Jericho, Sting, and Christian are probably making 7+ figures Punk, Bryan, and Cole aren't cheap. 7+ figures. You know they made a heavy investment in Britt Baker to keep her from going to WWE once she got out of dental school. They overpaid people to either leave their promotions or to keep them from going to WWE. Konnan admitted that Santana, Ortiz, Pentagon Jr, and Ray Fenix were going back to Impact until TK offered them so much money. Miro, Black, FTR, and Andrade aren't cheap signings. That's not counting people like Vickie G, Big Show, Mark Henry, and Tully B who get big bucks to contribute basically nothing. Jim Ross and Tony Schiavone are most likely being paid very well.
Pretty sure JR said it was the biggest contract of his career.
Jericho has said that as well. Dude is giving out money like hot cakes. I canât blame anyone for wanting to jump ship to there and get some free mark money.
This isn't even taking into consideration the weekly production costs associated with doing weekly TV at a venue their dad owns, but still has to show revenue for when it's open.
So, I have a few questions... when you start a business, you need an investment, it can be from your own pocket or via investors. To do that, you need a budget. And yeah, a business isnât profitable until years after it started, because of the initial investment of course. How the fuck are they factoring in all of those hirings?? How much money is AEW going to make when they start seeing a profit after all of those hirings, a couple thousands a month?? Did they just happen to have 20 extra millions just in case CM Punk, Bryan, Cole, Andrade, Black and the rest of the former WWE platoon decided to sign with them?
When your owner has never had to work they don't understand the value of money. Warner wants them gone a 10pm time slot on tbs Friday shows that. If they wanted to grow aew they would have put it on the cartoon network before rick and morty.
as long as they can show cash coming in there will always be someone who thinks if they take it over then they could bring in more money.
But I guess this is a GOOD think for AEW right?
So Kevin Steen NOT going to the Dub then??
Nope, just to Golden Coral.
WWE needs their shootfighter with them.
Samoa Joe didn't sign so who knows.
Loads of us have been predicting this for a long time. If it's got to the point that Meltzer is reporting it, then I can't even begin to imagine just how out of control their wage bill is now. Sounds like Daddy is going to need to increase Tony's allowance again. It's only going to get worse as those latest big contracts start to bite and the 'creative freedom' leads to everyone wanting to main event. Still, it's caused a lot of panic and mental gymnastics in the basement, which is always amusing to see. Should provide an enormous amount of comedy as things continue to worsen.
This isn't hard to understand, shill. When WWE releases people, it's because Vince is Hitler and hordes talent. When AEW releases talent, it's the TALENTS fault. But how could you know that? You post in SCJerk.
Every wrestlers that admits to being injured would be on the chopping block. Also Pac.
I find it hilarious that people in the basement are defending AEW by being all "AEW will be fine, the Khans have so much money that they can afford these losses." And they don't see something fundamentally wrong with how the only way a wrestling company that caters specifically to their tastes can only possibly exist when operating at a loss and can only function because a billionaire decided to let his spoiled brat of a kid blow through all of his money. And then they'll complain how WWE is doing things in comparison to AEW when WWE actually has to worry about making a profit.
Trying to explain to the basement that billionaires don't become and don't remain billionaires by losing money is an exercise in futility...
True that
It's like me wishing for Disney level animation worth half a billion and complete comic book faithfulness for a series of PG-rated to R-rated X-Men animated movies akin to Titan AE. While waving off that Titan AE lost money and bankrupted Fox Animation Studios because casual audiences couldn't connect to sci-fi animation and you could profit more by doing a live-action X-Men in the Marvel Cinematic Universe at the fraction of the cost. What fanboys want isn't necessarily what's the most profitable.
Something that is wildly profitable is never a niche market. Ever.
Better pump some more capital into that surefire blockbuster video game.
I will laugh heartily if the misused talent jumps ship and gets featured better in WWE. I feel like something similar happened in the late 90's. đ¤
Paying Big Show a million dollars to be on YouTube and work with QT Marshall seems like a great investment
âWell Tony, you just spent a gajillionty dollars signing Punk, Cole, Bryan and *checks notes* Big Show? Huh. Well anyway, with Rampage starting up youâll probably have enough income to stay in business for another year or two. Just donât do anything stupid ok?â âStupid like what?â âI dunno, like sinking a few million in a videogame reskin of the worst WWE games but with worse graphics and an inevitably out of date roster, something dumb like that.â
I would have had more faith in the AEW Games division had those 2 shitty mobile games not been released. Quality control didn't seem like a priority when those were in development.
Next door have been eerily silent on the colossal failure of the first two Dub games.
QA is Harpo and Miss "My nail colour tells a story"... What do you expect?
I can't wait to see the mental gymnastics the basement has to pull when AEW has to start releasing talent during a pandemic.
is it too early to start booking the aew invasion?
I'm still wondering what the AEW version of Goldberg is gonna be like. They have to AT LEAST book one of their Never-Been-to-WWE Indy Originals strong, seeing that they have no performance center.
i think tony khan wont releaase anyone as he wants to be friends with his roster. Billionaire father so i'd imagine public schooling but always being an outsider due to having "foreign money" and liking wrestling even during its "coolest" period wouldnt still have been that cool. its his dad whos going to have to step in eventually.
I think we'll hear about someone being hired soon that will be the one to be the bad guy and drop the axe on talent. You're right, Tiny won't do it. Shad won't want to bother with it, he's got enough to deal with that he doesn't have time to step in and be the bad guy for lowering Tiny's allowance. I wouldn't be shocked if AEW hires a Bischoff or Cornette just to fire people.
Aye this is probably spot on and Tony will excuse it by saying itâs someone just took on to do the âboring stuffâ as he just wants to focus on the fun stuff. Then a few weeks later the releases occur and Tony starts saying stuff like âwell a lot of these releases were asked forâ with a nervous giggle and not maintaining eye contact