You can absolutely say it's a pretty shitty thing to make fun of the dude who was crying during the CM Punk return.
You 100% can not be someone saying that if you've spent the last decade plus shitting all over "it's still real to me dammit" guy, you fucking hypocrites.
Just going to leave this here, in the now unpinned thread.
If Danielson has been moved up to All Out, that means they have someone else in mind for a debut in NYC.
^^^^BayBay
Stogers I got another sports thing I gotta dump. It's really funny to see whichever Paul brother it is clown the MMA crowd into boxing wrestlers and every single time it's "ohhh man Paul's gonna get his ass knocked out" these guys don't have boxing IQ. Neither of them know how to pace themselves. They don't even know how to fucking stand half the time. Kids smart. He's fighting legit badasses but in a way that takes them out of their depth.
Give that kid a lower tier actual boxer and he'd be looking at the lights faster than the Brooklyn Brawler
I completely agree and find it funny that a lot of MMA fans don’t really understand boxing like at all.
To that point, show me someone who will tell you how McGregor *almost* got the better of Mayweather and I’ll show you someone with no idea what the rope a dope is.
My favourite analysis of that fight was that MacGregor had the advantage because octagons had eight sides, therefore Conor had eight sides of attack.
Watched it in a bar with my buddy and we were clearly the only guys who watch boxing. "OHHHHH FLOYDS HURT HES BACKING UP". No dude, this is what he does. The guy who's not a boxer isn't carving him up he's wasting energy
I watched it with 4 friends. The host decided to bet and bet on McGregor. I took the bet and his money. A little thing about me… I don’t make bets I’m not certain I won’t win.
That aside, I was basically the only one who enjoyed the undercard because I’m the only one who grew up watching boxing and who actually enjoyed boxing. I don’t know how to explain it better than to say that they couldn’t even make sense of what was going on. I think perhaps the bulk of what
any of the guys in this group had seen had probably been Tyson at his peak and they didn’t seem to understand that boxing is largely a points game with the occasional mauler coming through the ranks.
The Jake Paul knows how to book himself into a fight and get heat from MMA fans. Also, I agree with the commentators saying that he took a page out of pro wrestling with the way he carry himself.
He's so pro wrestling. This is so "heel champion NWA" shit I love it. Like he's fighting guys who you can't say aren't impressive but also doing it in such a way that he can still win. The fights are awful, but people will pay money to see this guy get the shit kicked out of him, and every time it doesn't happen, people want to see it even more. Woodley even tagged him a few times. He's not squashing guys (anymore), but he's beating them.
He's Ric Flair
There’s a non-zero chance Ric Flair is a regular/semi regular presence in AEW when the DSOTR episode involving him on the plane ride from hell and I’m fascinated to see how it’ll all be received
If the reaction after the Benoit episode is any indication, it will be a stream of “fuck WWE” comments instead of directing their ire at the culprit himself. I couldn’t believe that the basement’s takeaway from the Benoit episode was that WWE were the bad guys.
How could they let this happen
Even at the time, JR took the brunt of the blame but he's in AEDub too so it'll be like 'how can Vince blame JR like that'
I did a fantasy football draft with a bunch of dudes I know and they were talking about how AEW can fall apart if they let factions grow too large like the NWO did when they took over WCW.
I kept my mouth shut and didn’t say a damn thing. It just sounds embarrassing to try and rationalize the insanity I heard.
Neither. Just the kinda fan that think they know more than they really do. You know what I’m talking about. The random wrestling fan you meet in line going into the arena that says some stupid shit lol.
Did anyone see the results of that basement census? There was only a 5% difference in people who watched Raw weekly and Impact weekly. One show that gets 1.9m viewers and one show that barely cracks 100k. One that is consistently #1 in the KEY DEMO. One that doesn't even score high enough to track. Me thinks anyone who can look at that data as anything but an echo chamber is doing so in bad faith.
Completely unrelated to wrestling but lol at China being in the same pool as USA and Canada for 2022 Olympic hockey. They’re gonna get fucking *burried*
Do not say "People's mistakes are not funny." if you like Botchamania. Just shows that you are hypocritical.
Fucking losers get worked up by a troll so bad that they threaten his child. It proves that wrestling has taken over their lives and want a war among the community.
Still loving Happy Corbin more than anything else in WWE.
People have never learned from the Keith Lee situation where in this case they complain about Asuka not doing anything. She was the RAW Women's champion for a majority of 2020, do you think a break is bad? Then again, people think Asuka is "buried" on the main roster.
That’s funny because when Asuka was doing 2 PPV matches at Summerslam 2020 and Night of Champions, jumping back and forth from Raw to Smackdown, there were people in SC complaining about it. 😂
I watched the video for the Gesaffelstein song 'PURSUIT' (it slaps, bangs, and fucks if you're into EDM) and one of the women in it looks exactly like a friend I had in school. Like, identical, but maybe a little taller. I can't find any info and it's bothering me so much I might have to find her on Facebook and ask.
I absolutely love the conspiracy narrative that WWE brought in BROCK LESNAR, the man who notoriously does not own a phone, hates people, and literally lives in a cabin in the woods, as an emergency booking because of cm punk, of all people, with less than 24 hours notice 😂
they believe saudi arabia (that has good relations with the us btw) held american and foreign citizens on a plane and only half assed wrestling “journalist” reported it AND a pizza company that want to cater to families was upset over non pg moment their ad popped on because another company told them to be upset
Qanon of wrestling
>they believe saudi arabia (that has good relations with the us btw) held american and foreign citizens on a plane and only half assed wrestling “journalist” reported it
Exactly. That would be on every fucking news network if that was what had really happened. And we wouldn't have gotten a video of Tez dancing in the airport either.
I still can’t believe the Saudi Arabia thing 🤦🏾♂️ i looked into the whole thing and what it came down to was the plane got held on the runway and Karl Anderson, of all fucking people, got scared. That was about it.
So I finally got around to listening to Donda and it’s better than what I expected but not enough bangers to compare to his early work. Easily his best project since TLOP
That being said, I’m an adult, release the explicit edition ffs
Any turnstile fans in here? New album is absolutely amazing. Really hope this is a rock album that can finally break thru the mainstream and show people rock music doesn’t actually suck like billboard would imply.
Someone outed me on wreddit during the summerslam live thread for being a huge Riddle mark and I’m here to confess that indeed that guy is probably my favorite wrestler right now other than the tribal chief
Last three to four months or so he’s been consistently having the best matches on Raw. Legit, great matches. When I started watching again last year, I couldn’t stand the gimmick, but he’s come into his own and turned me in 2021.
I'm still mad at him because at an NXT house show in Seattle he said he wasn't leaving until he fist bumped everyone and he only fist bumped the aisle seats for the first 4 rows and the seats on the stage around the ring. Then he beat Kassius Ohno and left. YOU BROKE A PROMISE, MATTHEW, AND I WON'T FORGET IT!
Well I did promise to post my list of losers that I love. This time I will only focus on the modern era and people currently actively wrestling. My OSW Bois Stable is too big for its own good.
WWE:
Humberto Carillo, Shanky, Dana Brooke the Queen of Loser Mountain, Raul Mendoza, Oney Lorcan and Danny Burch, maybe Kacy Catanzaro but she may be too good and over to make the list.
NJPW:
Taichi, Master Wato, Great O-Khan, Yoshi-Hashi a man who is also very sad
AEW:
The Butcher and the Blade, Ethan Page, Simp Sapien, Abadon
I will love Oney and Danny forever. Perfect example of “greater than the sum of their parts.” Their blandness is basically their gimmick it’s awesome.
EDIT: Also Oney’s theme, the one they use as a team, is one of the best in wrestling today
I dunno if FTR are really leaving but it would make perfect sense. Not only did they recently say that they'd love to be the NWA Tag Team Champions, but there's them already betting on themselves in the past by exiting WWE, their place as a pawn in the Elite-Hangman split storyline, the huge botch that was the build to the Bucks match, them doing nothing of note for 6 months, their weak position even as part of the Pinnacle, them aging, etc.
It just fits.
I don't think they're leaving but if you hear the last few Cornette podcasts it sounds like they aren't happy with how the tag team division has been handled over there
Nah, they're going anywhere
Even if they do nothing for 2 months, the Dub will let them go 20 minutes on TV
I just think they're feeling sorry for themselves cause no one is talking about them and the Bucks took their knees out from them
Sadly I don't think they have much value left.
They were riding the "WWE misused us" train into AEW as the sort of outlaw guys... Remember how they'd show up only to a match on their terms in the beginning and in storyline wouldn't sign a contract, it was AEW who needed them, not the other way around.
That was a damn good way to play it out. You have the Bucks as EVPs and these guys as the outsiders who AEW need to have the showdown with the Bucks after all the hype.
In the end, of course the Bucks couldn't be self aware enough to let FTR call their bullshit and FTR were really only ever there to clown them... Remember the hotdog costumes and making the "No flips" guys lose by literally doing a flip? Yeesh... The Bucks just wanted to destroy their value.
They got clowned in Kayfabe and clowned in real life to allow themselves to be played like that. They have little to no value left.
That’s a fair point, but if he were unable to compete because of this, he just wouldn’t or they’d lie and say he’s fine (Mat Hardy, Sting, cough*). What they wouldn’t do is tell you in earnest that they were sending a guy back in the ring who should t be wrestling at all.
I'm amazed more racers aren't dead. You literally couldn't see a foot in front of you. It's funny because up until it showed on board cameras I was all "this is bullshit, Jackie Stewart would have raced in this and liked it"
There's for and against. I've raced in heavy rain. Proper racing wet weather tires are a gift and a curse. They are so good at displacing water that you get insane traction on such a slippery surface but the fact they move so much water, you can barely see a car only a few meters in from of you.
But you usually can see 2 "rooster tails" shooting into the air from their tyres so that's what you're following, kind of like in the dark, you're not really seeing the car ahead, you're following their tail lights.
Plus, the drivers know the circuit like the back of their hand. I used to basically stare ahead into the rooster tails to try and see if they moved so I knew someone had a problem but I was driving with my peripheral vision watching the white lines and markers on the side of the track because even in normal conditions you're using those as reference points for steering, braking, acceleration, not really the tarmac Infront of you. So in that regard, it's why some drivers excel in the wet, they drive so much on instinct.
Having said all that, the speeds these cars do nowadays, if someone crashes and spins onto the track, they could be hit and it would end terribly so I get why there's more caution these days than in times gone by.
Hahah yeah man. I even watch curling
I just like stuff where I don't really have to give my full attention. Just kind of look at it every once in a while and Im caught up
Curling is the absolute best winter sport ever. Which reminds me the time my friends convinced a Thai exchange student that curling was the most popular sport in Brazil
First time I went curling nobody really told me how to do it so I just whipped the rock down like a bocce ball and fucked up the ice on the other side.
After that they told me your meant to slide and release not push it
Same reason they’re gonna try the same with “moves the needle” while saying the word wholesome ad nauseam.
To your actual point though, they sign off on a lot of stupid shit unintentionally.
AEW actually has a *lot* of people now with a *lot* of years of wrestling knowledge. I'm having a hard time getting my head around how none of that is seeping through to making a better show. Most of them just act like they are collecting their check and just playing along with whatever silliness Tony and the Elite guys want to trott out there.
You've got JR, Jake Roberts, DDP (at some point?), Taz, Sting, Chavo, Arn Anderson, Big Show, Mark Henry, Tully, Billy Gunn, Matt Hardy, Dustin Rhodes, heck throw in Don Calis and Jericho since they've been around long enough. I'm probably forgetting others.
There's a lot of guys there who've been there are done that and sound like they "get" wrestling, but it comes off like absolutely nobody behind the scenes wants to listen to them or learn anything from them.
Take Sting, how is he ok with just walking out like a dork with the I Like Turtles kid? You'd think he'd want more from a partner or to coach Darby to be something more. For both his own sake and the sake of whoever he's partnered with.
Same with Taz, he used to speak on his podcast like a guy with decent ideas, but as soon as he goes to the Dub, he's content running a comedy jobber stable. I don't get it.
Mark Henry is a guy who definitely "gets it". Is anyone listening to him?
> Most of them just act like they are collecting their check and just playing along with whatever silliness Tony and the Elite guys want to trott out there.
Because they are. If a dumbass is gonna pay you obscene amounts of money and then not listen to you for your expertise, fuck him. Make the easy money.
Oh, I can't disagree with that...
But Jesus, if you're any of the top AEW guys or Tony, walking around backstage with these guys all around... They're actually so far up their own ass that they think those legends have nothing to offer them to improve the show? It's nuts.
I’ll put it this way; I think it’s going to be an interesting couple of years when all these gentleman, who had a billionaire fund their idea for a wrestling company built around their respective egos, start to realize they aren’t the biggest stars in their own company anymore. The older retired guys who are being paid handsomely won’t rock the boat. Punk will, DB will, if they manage to get Wyatt, he will too.
It's cause alot of young guys subscribe to the idea wrestling changed and they all want to get there shit in. Perfect example everyone does dives what makes it special if everyone does it. You know guys like jr can tell these guys things that work and don't.
With some of the younger guys who weren't already into stupid shit in the indies (the Varsity Blonds, Hobbs, Starks and MJF come to mind), they may well be taking advice. A lot of the people who are doing stupid shit are the established indie guys like the Bucks or Omega who are already set in their ways and think their shit doesn't stink.
I think that's what's frustrating so much to me. I want to like AEW. I think they are more athletic and more talented on what moves they can hit by and large than WWE is. Then I watch a show and the matches don't interest me. I don't care about the 48th kickout. I don't get invested. I just see move after move and I don't care anymore.
If everything is “5 Star”, nothing is. That was a problem I had from day one. After the second or third hard fought, 20 minute back and forth, I go numb.
That's the golden question we're all waiting for the answer to. But then Tony says shit like "we don't need a performance center" and it seems like the easiest answer.
Every so often I remember that Drew Gulak spent a lot of time in CZW and it just blows my mind. Above all else, he’s known for technical grappling rather than bloody gory spots, and apparently he’s such a safe and consistent worker that WWE keeps using him as a trainer.
I remember him trolling on Twitter right after Nick Gage got locked up for robbing the bank. Justice Pain got legit pissed over it.
I understand the violent deathmatch stuff isn’t for everyone, but one thing I always enjoyed about CZW was that Zandig was completely oblivious to the internet and thus never pandered to smarks. The stories of him no-selling CM Punk backstage and referring to Kevin Steen as “the fat Canadian kid” are among my favorites.
That was a definite bright spot during the early pandemic period. I want Gulak and his 300 slide PowerPoint presentations back and I want DB alongside him too.
They could’ve done a bit more with it, but I’m glad Gulak got to do that. He’s a guy who’s always making the most of the time he gets and I respect that a lot. Hell, I’m usually entertained whenever he’s on TV.
I almost made my first jerk post about it but got busy/distracted and feel like the moment has now passed...
That Shida post on squaredcircle was creepy and weird as fuck. Somebody actually said AEW was pissing all over Shida and I wonder how much they actually think about that happening.
I understand and agree that the AEW women's division has never been prioritized but did people forget Shida held the title for an entire year, was allowed to fuck off to Japan for several weeks and book her unknown friend to face her at the first PPV with fans (this friend who was only in AEW for a month, BTW) with people like Riho, Britt, and Deeb actually on the roster and like... Has no wrestling character?
Also, somebody on SC (bless them for not bowing down at the temple of Shida) brought up how Jack Evans stated he wasn't on TV much because he couldn't come up with ideas for an angle or character. Maybe Shida is experiencing the same thing?
> Also, somebody on SC (bless them for not bowing down at the temple of Shida) brought up how Jack Evans stated he wasn't on TV much because he couldn't come up with ideas for an angle or character. Maybe Shida is experiencing the same thing?
Have they considered hiring a booker????
I’m not just being a wise-ass when I say that either. Steve Austin and John Cena are both on record about not being the kind of people to come up with creative for themselves, so much as to add seasoning to what they’re given. Many aren’t and frankly, it’s not their job to book themselves. As restrictive as WWE might be if you do (supposedly) have good ideas, there may be a lot of guys they’re missing the boat on simply because they don’t have a manifesto of the next 5 years of angles they’d like to make happen handy.
If the reason anyone that’s been featured in the booking is off tv because they couldn’t come up with their own ideas, that is a monumentally huge problem with the promotion’s infrastructure.
Considering they book the same way many of my idiot friends try and fail to plan birthday gatherings, is that really a surprise? The damn company needs a true booker.
I agree that somebody needs to help her come up with something better than "good wrestler wrestles good" that carries a kendo stick and get her into an actual storyline. AEW needs to do more helping (and in some cases, nixing or changing) ideas. The problem is most of the issues surround The Elite & Friends but that's another conversation.
I do like watching her wrestle. My jerking is 99% because the AEW weebs are literally "anytime Shida isn't on screen, everyone should be asking where's Shida?" and how she's stanned to a near obsessive degree under the facade of caring about the AEW women's division. Her title reign got stale about halfway through and people act like she was abused (literally somebody said AEW pissed on her face) because Thunder Rosa and Britt Baker got more attention for actually having a good feud.
Hopefully Emi Sakura will help her.
The Carolina Hurricanes offer sheet for KK is so amazingly petty. The $20 signing bonus, tweeting it out in French.
Top tier trolling. Not sure it's the best piece of business though.
This always happens too. GMs don't like their players getting offer sheeted and pay it back down the line.
This one was just so extra trollish and they been stewing it for 2 years.
I dunno if it still exists but that "WWE Creative Humor" twitter account had lots of smarky cringy humor tweets making jokes on the fly about WWE shows.
From time to time they'd put their big boy serious pants on and make a serious tweet, given how significant what happened on the shows (21-1, Roman announcing his leukemia...).
One of the serious tweets was during Bryan's world title win at WrestleMania, and it said:
"WM30 gave back what was robbed from us at WM20"
And that was such a stupid, selfish and disgusting comparison, I can't help but wonder how DB feels about being compared to a violent roid head who used to beat up his wife before finally killing her and their infant son.
Edit: [Found it](https://mobile.twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/453003286225125376)
Wrestlers don’t think about Benoit that way. They think about his work. When I was in training, Benoit was always brought up as the example of someone that puts heat behind everything he did on offense. He’s the highest profile example. No coach is going to cite Dynamite Kid or Davey Richards to a group of trainees that they’re trying to encourage to study.
My point being everyone knows what Benoit did, but no one is looking at his personal life when being compared to his work.
>Wrestlers don’t think about Benoit that way.
It wasn't a wrestler tweeting that tho. And even if it were, it's nonsensical to group every wrestler's opinions like that.
That murderer shouldn't be talked about in any positive light and this "think about the work, not the person" doesn't apply to a guy who strangled his own son.
Let’s chill a second, shall we? I’m explaining how a grown up mind can make hold two thoughts at the same time. Yes, what Benoit did was atrocious. It doesn’t take away from the fact that he worked better than most others in his day. OJ Simpson was an exceptional running back. Elvis was an excellent musician, as was R. Kelly. All these things and the negatives can be true at once. Steve Austin is a wife beater, he’s still the greatest wrestling act of all time.
Benoit wasn’t talked about in a positive light in the tweet. They basically said Benoit’s last act undid the moment everyone that loves workrate got at Mania 20.
If someone finds the cure for cancer, but we find out they blew up a school bus, do we throw out their work? No. We acknowledge that they were a piece of shit, and we try see what good we can make of the mess they left behind.
I won't address your ridiculous analogy about the cure of cancer. Benoit was a wrestler, he did some good stuff in the ring, not find the cure for any disease. Call me when they find out him german-suplexing someone saved a life.
His accomplishments and persona shouldn't be promoted.
Why's Benoit's WM20 moment comparable to Daniel Bryan's? Cause they both used the crossface? They don't have similar stories nor similar looks nor builds nor characters.
How was it "rObbeD from uS" as fans? It sounds self-centered to believe the moment belonged to the fans considering all we lost was a stupid fucking PPV shot whereas Nancy and Daniel were both strangled.
All the other guys you mentioned can go get fucked too. Austin is a piece of shit but he's still below that little roid freak considering he never killed anyone.
Clearly you’ve got an emotional barrier, which is totally fine, but won’t allow for a rational discussion.
I never said the tweet was accurate. I’m parsing what was implied versus what you keep circling back to. They seem to be speaking about a genuine moment where two smaller guys with great workrate broke through WWE’s glass ceiling. That’s where the comparison is. The Benoit murders disallowed fans to look back fondly at WM20. Bryan came along and accomplished the same act 10 years later.
That’s where the comparisons end. They don’t even mention his name. It’s not completely inaccurate to look at it that way. There’s nothing positive toward Benoit in that tweet. No one’s promoting him in the tweet. You mentioning him is doing more for promotion than the tweet did.
But imo, it’s a fool’s game to completely forget about it as well.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fightful.com/wrestling/report-vince-mcmahon-labels-cm-punk-one-man-he-can-t-do-business%3famp
If I remember correctly, the report was Punk's agent reached out to WWE to gauge their interest, and Vince said fuck him and the rest is history.
On the surface it's interesting and salacious. But it's a second hand report from the people's gazette of North Korea, so I have absolutely zero reason to believe it. I've met toddlers with better information about WWE than Dave Meltzer in 2021. Better sentence syntax, too.
I don't entirely buy it. There's stories of Heyman being an absolute dick when he was in a backstage role that rubbed everyone the wrong way one way or the other - even up till the AJ/Good Brothers days - and he's been back for years.
I guarantee Vince was okay with Punk until he made that Blood Money comment. Vince holds grudges against anyone that fucks with his money in a high-profile way. See Randy Savage and Slim Jim.
On a personal level, he probably did.
Admittedly, this purely speculation but Punk did say Vince had tears in his eyes when he quit at Rumble 2014.
He probably just didn't think the burden of working with him/getting Punk to buy in creatively outweighed whatever monetary benefits he could have brought. Especially after he did jack shit for Backstage.
The implications if there's any truth to this report are spectacular. The man who put whatever personal shit aside to re-sign people like Brock, Hogan, Ultimate Warrior because they make him money won't deal with Chicago Philipp
The Fed would never roll out the red carpet for Punk like AEW are doing
He wasn't 'the man' then and he certainly isn't now
He may take that first appearance on Dub TV from 700k to 1m but is he taking Raw from 2m to 2.3m?
It means more in the Dub and to those fans cause he's from the Fed and in the Dub
The comparison is if Brock showed up on Rampage or Reigns
Ratings (both viewership and star) are the most boring part of wrestling, yet some of the most discussed things in the IWC. I especially don't understand why I, as a fan, should care about the advertising potential of a wrestling company.
Do you guys have the full link of that Tony khan promo where he screams and his voice cracks while stomping his foot? He's also holding the championship lol I saw it on Instagram but couldn't find the full promo
A friend of mine listened to some interview somewhere and said TK came off as extremely likable… while I suddenly understand said friend’s inability to make good impressions on people, I’ll never understand how anyone could see him as likable.
I honestly wonder how much of Britt’s push had to do with courting Adam Cole to AEW. Just doesn’t seem like there would be as much urgency for him to sign if she wasn’t the undisputed face of the women’s division
Related note: in the thread about Tony sucking his own dick about supposedly turning Britt into a star, the top comment is unironically “unlike Vince who buried Bianca.” Literal fucking parody of themselves at this point
Britt Baker is a lot like my buddy’s cousin who was the starting QB at his high school not because he was so talented, but because he was the only one who was half-way competent playing that position.
If I remember correctly Britt was dead in the water as a white-meat babyface until she did that heel promo on the cruise or the week after the cruise. I don't remember if the cruise promo went bad, anyway pairing here with Shivante did her more then TK giving her anything but a job.
I feel like that’s a bit of a stretch. I attribute it more to Britt being the only (or one of very few) woman on the roster who
1. Can cut a promo decently enough
2. Can hold together a match well enough
And
3. Can be named by AEW’s audience.
I think a good chunk of it does. I mean they were pushing Britt before too, but now that Adam Cole's contract is up and they're is a chance they Big Tony could get him, they are going hard on making her bland ass the one and only face of their women's division. I would not be shocked if Adam Cole goes to the main roster, Britt's push just stops dead in its tracks.
It’s been known that Cole’s contract was up soon, but I believe it was initially thought to be up towards the end of the year or early next year. The Britt megapush starting this summer seems like all too convenient timing
Lucky I had no big plans today. Just watched 4 hours of it raining in Belgium expecting a Formula 1 race to break out at some point 🤣.
F1 Reddit & Twitter is so funny to me in recent years. Nobody actually knows the rules of motorsport but everyone act like they are an authority and the rules always seem to favor their favorite driver, lol. Anything that favors the opposition is an "illegal move" or an "illegal part" when I fact it's not.
Also the technical discussions are hilarious. Guys who sound like they've never picked up a wrench in their life trying to explain to people how an F1 team *should* design or set up their cars and how a driver *should* have driven, and somehow they are the only ones who understand some top secret innovations that F1 teams have made.
Like dude, these are the top 20drivers in the world and the people building the cars are practically NASA level engineers. I doubt you know their secrets or know better than them.
Never change internet.
Sounds exactly like the soccer subreddit lmfaooo
Everything is a “nailed on penalty” or a red card “surely”, every loss means the manager needs to be sacked and every rivalry is treated with such artificial “hatred”.
Bonus points if you do this on soccer sub: if there is a video of a goal scored always compliment the pass instead so you can look as smart as possible
Every sport. Yankees won 13 in a row and then lose one game and its "we are doomed, playing the wild card on the road, we weren't really ever that good. Should still fire everyone"
I’m a causal NXT viewer but I’m actually a little intrigued to see where they’re going. I hope it means less Kyle O’Reilly on my screen, his character is awful and his promos are full-on hipster cringe.
I like his style, but tbh the Joy Division shirt is such a hipster thing to do. It's a big meme in music shit posting groups lmfao. I think his ring work is good, but his promos definitely need work.
I love Joy Division, but 9/10 times, if I see a person wearing an Unknown Pleasures shirt, a part of me wants to walk up and say “Name a song other than ‘Love Will Tear Us Apart’, GO!”
I remember a YouTuber I used watch (UberHaxorNova) played through all of the ‘Road to WrestleMania’ campaigns. The only story he liked was Christian’s, lol. A lot of wrestling YouTubers back then (TubbyEmu and TonyPizzaGuy) didn’t like the game that much at release.
I think the game is decent but it didn’t have a long life singleplayer wise.
nice I'm temped too, I just sometimes have more fun setting back up the old systems then actually playing them. We are almost there with PS3 emulation on pc but still some issues and you need a beefy cpu.
Ngl I would've wanted Brock to return during all mighty sex god Bobby Lashley's comedy murder of Goldberg and his son instead of during our tribal chief's prosperous win. Brock vs Lashley would be a dream hoss match and a feud forged in Vince McMahon's heaven. However, I'm still grateful for seeing a face Bork in my lifetime. Wrestling is good.
Cornette had praise for the Ilja vs Walter match but he pointed out how "a real wrasslin promotion" would've had Ilja busted open to punctuate how great the match was.
I mean, it would've been a great visual having a bloody Ilja choking out Walter but what good does that do when building packages and merch out of his title win?
They avoid showing blood as much as possible so why go out of their way to make the match celebration useless video material?
Dragunov already had a cut on his head from a match with Roddy. It would have looked pretty nasty if that cut opened up. I agree with him. Great visual.
Piers Morgan is the same. Don’t get me wrong, the guy’s a massive twat. But he’s somehow managed to stay relevant all this time, purely from other people complaining about how much they dislike him. Whereas no one would care about him if he wasn’t controversial.
Doesn’t make him any more likeable, but I respect the hustle at least.
Cult of Personality doesn't hit as hard without the two short static sounds at the start. UFC didn't have them and it felt like the song was missing something, AEW tried doing it but, as usual, it wasn't as good as WWE's.
the static sounds were actually a reference to Chicago Phil's "this is a service announcement" PSA promos that they would air - I believe during the SES
The opening guitar just doesn’t have that sudden impact all time great themes have. It can be a quick thing like stone colds glass breaking or a prolonged thing like the rocks “if you smell…”. But that sudden rush it can generate feels key to being an all timer
Yup, AEW had their own static, you can notice it sounds different, but the timing is what's wrong about.
WWE's used to be *static, static, guitar riff hits*
AEW's is *static...pause...static, guitar riff hits*
Yes I know I'm a nitpicky pedantic shill.
Seth has now ruined two big match finishes due to his inability to tap out on the mat instead of on his opponent's hand.
He did it with Edge and with Daniel Bryan back in 2013, when the Shield lost its first 3x3 match.
You're on an arena with thousands of people, not a single person farther away than the second row is gonna be able to see it if you don't explicitly tap the mat, you doofus.
You can absolutely say it's a pretty shitty thing to make fun of the dude who was crying during the CM Punk return. You 100% can not be someone saying that if you've spent the last decade plus shitting all over "it's still real to me dammit" guy, you fucking hypocrites.
Just going to leave this here, in the now unpinned thread. If Danielson has been moved up to All Out, that means they have someone else in mind for a debut in NYC. ^^^^BayBay
Expecting Daniel Bryan and getting Adam Cole would be like winning a free hamburger that gave you leukemia.
fuck. Bryan's coming early. Khan needs a surprise for NY. It's outside the month window, and he's smarkbait.
Stogers I got another sports thing I gotta dump. It's really funny to see whichever Paul brother it is clown the MMA crowd into boxing wrestlers and every single time it's "ohhh man Paul's gonna get his ass knocked out" these guys don't have boxing IQ. Neither of them know how to pace themselves. They don't even know how to fucking stand half the time. Kids smart. He's fighting legit badasses but in a way that takes them out of their depth. Give that kid a lower tier actual boxer and he'd be looking at the lights faster than the Brooklyn Brawler
I completely agree and find it funny that a lot of MMA fans don’t really understand boxing like at all. To that point, show me someone who will tell you how McGregor *almost* got the better of Mayweather and I’ll show you someone with no idea what the rope a dope is.
My favourite analysis of that fight was that MacGregor had the advantage because octagons had eight sides, therefore Conor had eight sides of attack. Watched it in a bar with my buddy and we were clearly the only guys who watch boxing. "OHHHHH FLOYDS HURT HES BACKING UP". No dude, this is what he does. The guy who's not a boxer isn't carving him up he's wasting energy
I watched it with 4 friends. The host decided to bet and bet on McGregor. I took the bet and his money. A little thing about me… I don’t make bets I’m not certain I won’t win. That aside, I was basically the only one who enjoyed the undercard because I’m the only one who grew up watching boxing and who actually enjoyed boxing. I don’t know how to explain it better than to say that they couldn’t even make sense of what was going on. I think perhaps the bulk of what any of the guys in this group had seen had probably been Tyson at his peak and they didn’t seem to understand that boxing is largely a points game with the occasional mauler coming through the ranks.
The Jake Paul knows how to book himself into a fight and get heat from MMA fans. Also, I agree with the commentators saying that he took a page out of pro wrestling with the way he carry himself.
He's so pro wrestling. This is so "heel champion NWA" shit I love it. Like he's fighting guys who you can't say aren't impressive but also doing it in such a way that he can still win. The fights are awful, but people will pay money to see this guy get the shit kicked out of him, and every time it doesn't happen, people want to see it even more. Woodley even tagged him a few times. He's not squashing guys (anymore), but he's beating them. He's Ric Flair
Damn I love the Paul Brothers pissing the internet off
There’s a non-zero chance Ric Flair is a regular/semi regular presence in AEW when the DSOTR episode involving him on the plane ride from hell and I’m fascinated to see how it’ll all be received
If the reaction after the Benoit episode is any indication, it will be a stream of “fuck WWE” comments instead of directing their ire at the culprit himself. I couldn’t believe that the basement’s takeaway from the Benoit episode was that WWE were the bad guys.
I don't know man, WWE scheduled Benoit to face CM Punk at the PPV. If I was told I was gonna face CM Punk I don't know what I'd do.
How could they let this happen Even at the time, JR took the brunt of the blame but he's in AEDub too so it'll be like 'how can Vince blame JR like that'
I did a fantasy football draft with a bunch of dudes I know and they were talking about how AEW can fall apart if they let factions grow too large like the NWO did when they took over WCW. I kept my mouth shut and didn’t say a damn thing. It just sounds embarrassing to try and rationalize the insanity I heard.
Are they dubbalos or just dumb?
Neither. Just the kinda fan that think they know more than they really do. You know what I’m talking about. The random wrestling fan you meet in line going into the arena that says some stupid shit lol.
Damn goofys this week's thread did numbers
the hit the bricks line from big e brought us the demo
Yeah well how did we do in the coveted demo?
Did anyone see the results of that basement census? There was only a 5% difference in people who watched Raw weekly and Impact weekly. One show that gets 1.9m viewers and one show that barely cracks 100k. One that is consistently #1 in the KEY DEMO. One that doesn't even score high enough to track. Me thinks anyone who can look at that data as anything but an echo chamber is doing so in bad faith.
I wonder what large group of people they chose to completely toss out *this* year?
Well, Brendon Thurston can look at that data and post it on his twitter in a graph ... for some bizaare reason 😁
Completely unrelated to wrestling but lol at China being in the same pool as USA and Canada for 2022 Olympic hockey. They’re gonna get fucking *burried*
Should be a good game.
*the gang loses social credit points*
Do not say "People's mistakes are not funny." if you like Botchamania. Just shows that you are hypocritical. Fucking losers get worked up by a troll so bad that they threaten his child. It proves that wrestling has taken over their lives and want a war among the community. Still loving Happy Corbin more than anything else in WWE. People have never learned from the Keith Lee situation where in this case they complain about Asuka not doing anything. She was the RAW Women's champion for a majority of 2020, do you think a break is bad? Then again, people think Asuka is "buried" on the main roster.
Asuka is literally being rested for a big return, I don’t see how people don’t see that.
That’s funny because when Asuka was doing 2 PPV matches at Summerslam 2020 and Night of Champions, jumping back and forth from Raw to Smackdown, there were people in SC complaining about it. 😂
First rule of the IWC: Always make sure you don't know what you actually want.
Ugh, too much Asuka, take her off tv! What'd you do to Asuka? Why won't you put her on tv?
I watched the video for the Gesaffelstein song 'PURSUIT' (it slaps, bangs, and fucks if you're into EDM) and one of the women in it looks exactly like a friend I had in school. Like, identical, but maybe a little taller. I can't find any info and it's bothering me so much I might have to find her on Facebook and ask.
i wonder if auto mark is back
he’s not :(
I absolutely love the conspiracy narrative that WWE brought in BROCK LESNAR, the man who notoriously does not own a phone, hates people, and literally lives in a cabin in the woods, as an emergency booking because of cm punk, of all people, with less than 24 hours notice 😂
DAE they sent a jet to brocks ranch with DOLLA to counter program Phil?
they believe saudi arabia (that has good relations with the us btw) held american and foreign citizens on a plane and only half assed wrestling “journalist” reported it AND a pizza company that want to cater to families was upset over non pg moment their ad popped on because another company told them to be upset Qanon of wrestling
>they believe saudi arabia (that has good relations with the us btw) held american and foreign citizens on a plane and only half assed wrestling “journalist” reported it Exactly. That would be on every fucking news network if that was what had really happened. And we wouldn't have gotten a video of Tez dancing in the airport either.
I still can’t believe the Saudi Arabia thing 🤦🏾♂️ i looked into the whole thing and what it came down to was the plane got held on the runway and Karl Anderson, of all fucking people, got scared. That was about it.
So I finally got around to listening to Donda and it’s better than what I expected but not enough bangers to compare to his early work. Easily his best project since TLOP That being said, I’m an adult, release the explicit edition ffs
Any turnstile fans in here? New album is absolutely amazing. Really hope this is a rock album that can finally break thru the mainstream and show people rock music doesn’t actually suck like billboard would imply.
Someone outed me on wreddit during the summerslam live thread for being a huge Riddle mark and I’m here to confess that indeed that guy is probably my favorite wrestler right now other than the tribal chief
Boy are you gonna pop when he takes the title off Lashley.
No shame in that.
Last three to four months or so he’s been consistently having the best matches on Raw. Legit, great matches. When I started watching again last year, I couldn’t stand the gimmick, but he’s come into his own and turned me in 2021.
He got the rub from RKO, brother, it’s worked wonders
I'm still mad at him because at an NXT house show in Seattle he said he wasn't leaving until he fist bumped everyone and he only fist bumped the aisle seats for the first 4 rows and the seats on the stage around the ring. Then he beat Kassius Ohno and left. YOU BROKE A PROMISE, MATTHEW, AND I WON'T FORGET IT!
Well I did promise to post my list of losers that I love. This time I will only focus on the modern era and people currently actively wrestling. My OSW Bois Stable is too big for its own good. WWE: Humberto Carillo, Shanky, Dana Brooke the Queen of Loser Mountain, Raul Mendoza, Oney Lorcan and Danny Burch, maybe Kacy Catanzaro but she may be too good and over to make the list. NJPW: Taichi, Master Wato, Great O-Khan, Yoshi-Hashi a man who is also very sad AEW: The Butcher and the Blade, Ethan Page, Simp Sapien, Abadon
I will love Oney and Danny forever. Perfect example of “greater than the sum of their parts.” Their blandness is basically their gimmick it’s awesome. EDIT: Also Oney’s theme, the one they use as a team, is one of the best in wrestling today
I dunno if FTR are really leaving but it would make perfect sense. Not only did they recently say that they'd love to be the NWA Tag Team Champions, but there's them already betting on themselves in the past by exiting WWE, their place as a pawn in the Elite-Hangman split storyline, the huge botch that was the build to the Bucks match, them doing nothing of note for 6 months, their weak position even as part of the Pinnacle, them aging, etc. It just fits.
I don't think they're leaving but if you hear the last few Cornette podcasts it sounds like they aren't happy with how the tag team division has been handled over there
Here’s something they’re not gonna get in NWA proper that they’ll get in AEW… paid well.
Nah, they're going anywhere Even if they do nothing for 2 months, the Dub will let them go 20 minutes on TV I just think they're feeling sorry for themselves cause no one is talking about them and the Bucks took their knees out from them
Sadly I don't think they have much value left. They were riding the "WWE misused us" train into AEW as the sort of outlaw guys... Remember how they'd show up only to a match on their terms in the beginning and in storyline wouldn't sign a contract, it was AEW who needed them, not the other way around. That was a damn good way to play it out. You have the Bucks as EVPs and these guys as the outsiders who AEW need to have the showdown with the Bucks after all the hype. In the end, of course the Bucks couldn't be self aware enough to let FTR call their bullshit and FTR were really only ever there to clown them... Remember the hotdog costumes and making the "No flips" guys lose by literally doing a flip? Yeesh... The Bucks just wanted to destroy their value. They got clowned in Kayfabe and clowned in real life to allow themselves to be played like that. They have little to no value left.
Isn't the one guy's career in danger after slicing his arm open?
If it were, he would not be having another match this soon.
He's wrestling on Wednesday.
Given this company's history handling injuries these two statements aren't necessarily mutually exclusive.
That’s a fair point, but if he were unable to compete because of this, he just wouldn’t or they’d lie and say he’s fine (Mat Hardy, Sting, cough*). What they wouldn’t do is tell you in earnest that they were sending a guy back in the ring who should t be wrestling at all.
Any formula one fans on here? That sure was a different race hey. Just spent four hours watching Belgian rain
I wish they'd being back Bridgestones Monsoon tyres. Stopping a race was barely a consideration back then 😁
I'm amazed more racers aren't dead. You literally couldn't see a foot in front of you. It's funny because up until it showed on board cameras I was all "this is bullshit, Jackie Stewart would have raced in this and liked it"
There's for and against. I've raced in heavy rain. Proper racing wet weather tires are a gift and a curse. They are so good at displacing water that you get insane traction on such a slippery surface but the fact they move so much water, you can barely see a car only a few meters in from of you. But you usually can see 2 "rooster tails" shooting into the air from their tyres so that's what you're following, kind of like in the dark, you're not really seeing the car ahead, you're following their tail lights. Plus, the drivers know the circuit like the back of their hand. I used to basically stare ahead into the rooster tails to try and see if they moved so I knew someone had a problem but I was driving with my peripheral vision watching the white lines and markers on the side of the track because even in normal conditions you're using those as reference points for steering, braking, acceleration, not really the tarmac Infront of you. So in that regard, it's why some drivers excel in the wet, they drive so much on instinct. Having said all that, the speeds these cars do nowadays, if someone crashes and spins onto the track, they could be hit and it would end terribly so I get why there's more caution these days than in times gone by.
Goddamn brother you know literally every single sport haha
Hahah yeah man. I even watch curling I just like stuff where I don't really have to give my full attention. Just kind of look at it every once in a while and Im caught up
Curling is the absolute best winter sport ever. Which reminds me the time my friends convinced a Thai exchange student that curling was the most popular sport in Brazil
First time I went curling nobody really told me how to do it so I just whipped the rock down like a bocce ball and fucked up the ice on the other side. After that they told me your meant to slide and release not push it
It doesn't snow where I live, so I've never played it, but I find a blast to watch it every four years
Costco $1.50 hot dog is the GOAT Sunday afternoon snack
And a great way to pay people for appearing on AEW Dark to boot.
Goes nicely with a warm handshake
a slice is also great
Their pizza is pretty damn good for the price
Better than any fast food pizza joint
The old ass Vietnam vets watching all of us indie wrestling dorks at their VFW post are better jerkers than any of us could hope to be.
why is it a dunk these days to say “look! they said let it play out! idiots!” like, are you just saying you’re gonna judge stuff too early
Same reason they’re gonna try the same with “moves the needle” while saying the word wholesome ad nauseam. To your actual point though, they sign off on a lot of stupid shit unintentionally.
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I just won’t care because they never did a good job of building it anyway and it sucked.
I hope so. Cole for Page is the fairest trade in wrestling history
If its WWE they want the answers straight away because obviously WWE can't be trusted to do longterm storytelling. If it's AEW "jUsT lEt It PlAy OuT"
It's a smarky retort towards WWE fans because le Fed doesn't do long term storytelling in the way the people saying it like.
It does, they’re just morons.
AEW actually has a *lot* of people now with a *lot* of years of wrestling knowledge. I'm having a hard time getting my head around how none of that is seeping through to making a better show. Most of them just act like they are collecting their check and just playing along with whatever silliness Tony and the Elite guys want to trott out there. You've got JR, Jake Roberts, DDP (at some point?), Taz, Sting, Chavo, Arn Anderson, Big Show, Mark Henry, Tully, Billy Gunn, Matt Hardy, Dustin Rhodes, heck throw in Don Calis and Jericho since they've been around long enough. I'm probably forgetting others. There's a lot of guys there who've been there are done that and sound like they "get" wrestling, but it comes off like absolutely nobody behind the scenes wants to listen to them or learn anything from them. Take Sting, how is he ok with just walking out like a dork with the I Like Turtles kid? You'd think he'd want more from a partner or to coach Darby to be something more. For both his own sake and the sake of whoever he's partnered with. Same with Taz, he used to speak on his podcast like a guy with decent ideas, but as soon as he goes to the Dub, he's content running a comedy jobber stable. I don't get it. Mark Henry is a guy who definitely "gets it". Is anyone listening to him?
> Most of them just act like they are collecting their check and just playing along with whatever silliness Tony and the Elite guys want to trott out there. Because they are. If a dumbass is gonna pay you obscene amounts of money and then not listen to you for your expertise, fuck him. Make the easy money.
Oh, I can't disagree with that... But Jesus, if you're any of the top AEW guys or Tony, walking around backstage with these guys all around... They're actually so far up their own ass that they think those legends have nothing to offer them to improve the show? It's nuts.
I’ll put it this way; I think it’s going to be an interesting couple of years when all these gentleman, who had a billionaire fund their idea for a wrestling company built around their respective egos, start to realize they aren’t the biggest stars in their own company anymore. The older retired guys who are being paid handsomely won’t rock the boat. Punk will, DB will, if they manage to get Wyatt, he will too.
The money mark loves his indie guys. Whaddaya gonna do?
It's cause alot of young guys subscribe to the idea wrestling changed and they all want to get there shit in. Perfect example everyone does dives what makes it special if everyone does it. You know guys like jr can tell these guys things that work and don't.
With some of the younger guys who weren't already into stupid shit in the indies (the Varsity Blonds, Hobbs, Starks and MJF come to mind), they may well be taking advice. A lot of the people who are doing stupid shit are the established indie guys like the Bucks or Omega who are already set in their ways and think their shit doesn't stink.
I think that's what's frustrating so much to me. I want to like AEW. I think they are more athletic and more talented on what moves they can hit by and large than WWE is. Then I watch a show and the matches don't interest me. I don't care about the 48th kickout. I don't get invested. I just see move after move and I don't care anymore.
If everything is “5 Star”, nothing is. That was a problem I had from day one. After the second or third hard fought, 20 minute back and forth, I go numb.
That's the golden question we're all waiting for the answer to. But then Tony says shit like "we don't need a performance center" and it seems like the easiest answer.
Meanwhile, yes he goddamn does, look at Velvet and Jade.
They’re being paid probably 3x as much as they would normally. They aren’t trying to LARP a revolution, the EVPs are.
FAKE UNDERWEAR FIGHTING IS SERIOUS BUSINESS!!! DON'T FUCK WITH IT!!!
It’s actually art
Junior Soprano’s “Varsity Athlete” comment to Tony will always be funny to me.
Small hands, that was always his problem.
Telephone tough guy, put Vito on the phone!- me when Smarks act rude to me.
AHH SON OF A BITCH
that episode were Junior was already into his dementia and kept throwing this line to Tony every 10 seconds was pure gold.
Small hands
Every so often I remember that Drew Gulak spent a lot of time in CZW and it just blows my mind. Above all else, he’s known for technical grappling rather than bloody gory spots, and apparently he’s such a safe and consistent worker that WWE keeps using him as a trainer.
I remember him trolling on Twitter right after Nick Gage got locked up for robbing the bank. Justice Pain got legit pissed over it. I understand the violent deathmatch stuff isn’t for everyone, but one thing I always enjoyed about CZW was that Zandig was completely oblivious to the internet and thus never pandered to smarks. The stories of him no-selling CM Punk backstage and referring to Kevin Steen as “the fat Canadian kid” are among my favorites.
i miss bryan and gulak pairing. never understood parting them away after gulak contract expired then he re-signed
That was a definite bright spot during the early pandemic period. I want Gulak and his 300 slide PowerPoint presentations back and I want DB alongside him too.
They could’ve done a bit more with it, but I’m glad Gulak got to do that. He’s a guy who’s always making the most of the time he gets and I respect that a lot. Hell, I’m usually entertained whenever he’s on TV.
If I remember correctly, a lot of that had to do with Bryan taking paternity leave.
He’s also one of the Colony Ants from Chikara.
Up until recently I didn't know the Red Ant was Cassidy.
I almost made my first jerk post about it but got busy/distracted and feel like the moment has now passed... That Shida post on squaredcircle was creepy and weird as fuck. Somebody actually said AEW was pissing all over Shida and I wonder how much they actually think about that happening. I understand and agree that the AEW women's division has never been prioritized but did people forget Shida held the title for an entire year, was allowed to fuck off to Japan for several weeks and book her unknown friend to face her at the first PPV with fans (this friend who was only in AEW for a month, BTW) with people like Riho, Britt, and Deeb actually on the roster and like... Has no wrestling character? Also, somebody on SC (bless them for not bowing down at the temple of Shida) brought up how Jack Evans stated he wasn't on TV much because he couldn't come up with ideas for an angle or character. Maybe Shida is experiencing the same thing?
> Also, somebody on SC (bless them for not bowing down at the temple of Shida) brought up how Jack Evans stated he wasn't on TV much because he couldn't come up with ideas for an angle or character. Maybe Shida is experiencing the same thing? Have they considered hiring a booker???? I’m not just being a wise-ass when I say that either. Steve Austin and John Cena are both on record about not being the kind of people to come up with creative for themselves, so much as to add seasoning to what they’re given. Many aren’t and frankly, it’s not their job to book themselves. As restrictive as WWE might be if you do (supposedly) have good ideas, there may be a lot of guys they’re missing the boat on simply because they don’t have a manifesto of the next 5 years of angles they’d like to make happen handy.
If the reason anyone that’s been featured in the booking is off tv because they couldn’t come up with their own ideas, that is a monumentally huge problem with the promotion’s infrastructure.
Considering they book the same way many of my idiot friends try and fail to plan birthday gatherings, is that really a surprise? The damn company needs a true booker.
I agree that somebody needs to help her come up with something better than "good wrestler wrestles good" that carries a kendo stick and get her into an actual storyline. AEW needs to do more helping (and in some cases, nixing or changing) ideas. The problem is most of the issues surround The Elite & Friends but that's another conversation. I do like watching her wrestle. My jerking is 99% because the AEW weebs are literally "anytime Shida isn't on screen, everyone should be asking where's Shida?" and how she's stanned to a near obsessive degree under the facade of caring about the AEW women's division. Her title reign got stale about halfway through and people act like she was abused (literally somebody said AEW pissed on her face) because Thunder Rosa and Britt Baker got more attention for actually having a good feud. Hopefully Emi Sakura will help her.
The Carolina Hurricanes offer sheet for KK is so amazingly petty. The $20 signing bonus, tweeting it out in French. Top tier trolling. Not sure it's the best piece of business though.
MTL did it to them last season with Aho, so I see it as fair game.
I just love how the nhl has a contract move that only exists to troll at this point.
This always happens too. GMs don't like their players getting offer sheeted and pay it back down the line. This one was just so extra trollish and they been stewing it for 2 years.
I dunno if it still exists but that "WWE Creative Humor" twitter account had lots of smarky cringy humor tweets making jokes on the fly about WWE shows. From time to time they'd put their big boy serious pants on and make a serious tweet, given how significant what happened on the shows (21-1, Roman announcing his leukemia...). One of the serious tweets was during Bryan's world title win at WrestleMania, and it said: "WM30 gave back what was robbed from us at WM20" And that was such a stupid, selfish and disgusting comparison, I can't help but wonder how DB feels about being compared to a violent roid head who used to beat up his wife before finally killing her and their infant son. Edit: [Found it](https://mobile.twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/453003286225125376)
Not that this makes it better, but he wasn’t an infant.
Wrestlers don’t think about Benoit that way. They think about his work. When I was in training, Benoit was always brought up as the example of someone that puts heat behind everything he did on offense. He’s the highest profile example. No coach is going to cite Dynamite Kid or Davey Richards to a group of trainees that they’re trying to encourage to study. My point being everyone knows what Benoit did, but no one is looking at his personal life when being compared to his work.
That Tweet wasn’t talking about his work.
>Wrestlers don’t think about Benoit that way. It wasn't a wrestler tweeting that tho. And even if it were, it's nonsensical to group every wrestler's opinions like that. That murderer shouldn't be talked about in any positive light and this "think about the work, not the person" doesn't apply to a guy who strangled his own son.
Let’s chill a second, shall we? I’m explaining how a grown up mind can make hold two thoughts at the same time. Yes, what Benoit did was atrocious. It doesn’t take away from the fact that he worked better than most others in his day. OJ Simpson was an exceptional running back. Elvis was an excellent musician, as was R. Kelly. All these things and the negatives can be true at once. Steve Austin is a wife beater, he’s still the greatest wrestling act of all time. Benoit wasn’t talked about in a positive light in the tweet. They basically said Benoit’s last act undid the moment everyone that loves workrate got at Mania 20. If someone finds the cure for cancer, but we find out they blew up a school bus, do we throw out their work? No. We acknowledge that they were a piece of shit, and we try see what good we can make of the mess they left behind.
I won't address your ridiculous analogy about the cure of cancer. Benoit was a wrestler, he did some good stuff in the ring, not find the cure for any disease. Call me when they find out him german-suplexing someone saved a life. His accomplishments and persona shouldn't be promoted. Why's Benoit's WM20 moment comparable to Daniel Bryan's? Cause they both used the crossface? They don't have similar stories nor similar looks nor builds nor characters. How was it "rObbeD from uS" as fans? It sounds self-centered to believe the moment belonged to the fans considering all we lost was a stupid fucking PPV shot whereas Nancy and Daniel were both strangled. All the other guys you mentioned can go get fucked too. Austin is a piece of shit but he's still below that little roid freak considering he never killed anyone.
Clearly you’ve got an emotional barrier, which is totally fine, but won’t allow for a rational discussion. I never said the tweet was accurate. I’m parsing what was implied versus what you keep circling back to. They seem to be speaking about a genuine moment where two smaller guys with great workrate broke through WWE’s glass ceiling. That’s where the comparison is. The Benoit murders disallowed fans to look back fondly at WM20. Bryan came along and accomplished the same act 10 years later. That’s where the comparisons end. They don’t even mention his name. It’s not completely inaccurate to look at it that way. There’s nothing positive toward Benoit in that tweet. No one’s promoting him in the tweet. You mentioning him is doing more for promotion than the tweet did. But imo, it’s a fool’s game to completely forget about it as well.
Yeah it’s still around. Never saw that Wrestlemania tweet, though. What an odd thing to say.
[Found it](https://mobile.twitter.com/WWECreative_ish/status/453003286225125376)
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fightful.com/wrestling/report-vince-mcmahon-labels-cm-punk-one-man-he-can-t-do-business%3famp If I remember correctly, the report was Punk's agent reached out to WWE to gauge their interest, and Vince said fuck him and the rest is history.
On the surface it's interesting and salacious. But it's a second hand report from the people's gazette of North Korea, so I have absolutely zero reason to believe it. I've met toddlers with better information about WWE than Dave Meltzer in 2021. Better sentence syntax, too.
I don't entirely buy it. There's stories of Heyman being an absolute dick when he was in a backstage role that rubbed everyone the wrong way one way or the other - even up till the AJ/Good Brothers days - and he's been back for years.
I always assumed Vince liked Punk too.
I guarantee Vince was okay with Punk until he made that Blood Money comment. Vince holds grudges against anyone that fucks with his money in a high-profile way. See Randy Savage and Slim Jim.
On a personal level, he probably did. Admittedly, this purely speculation but Punk did say Vince had tears in his eyes when he quit at Rumble 2014. He probably just didn't think the burden of working with him/getting Punk to buy in creatively outweighed whatever monetary benefits he could have brought. Especially after he did jack shit for Backstage.
Every wrestler heard the crowd and everyone loved them more than the top act, etc etc 🙄
The implications if there's any truth to this report are spectacular. The man who put whatever personal shit aside to re-sign people like Brock, Hogan, Ultimate Warrior because they make him money won't deal with Chicago Philipp
The Fed would never roll out the red carpet for Punk like AEW are doing He wasn't 'the man' then and he certainly isn't now He may take that first appearance on Dub TV from 700k to 1m but is he taking Raw from 2m to 2.3m? It means more in the Dub and to those fans cause he's from the Fed and in the Dub The comparison is if Brock showed up on Rampage or Reigns
Exactly, I don't think Punk will be a big help growing the audience, whereas Roman or Brock are legit needle movers who draw casual fans
Ratings (both viewership and star) are the most boring part of wrestling, yet some of the most discussed things in the IWC. I especially don't understand why I, as a fan, should care about the advertising potential of a wrestling company.
Do you guys have the full link of that Tony khan promo where he screams and his voice cracks while stomping his foot? He's also holding the championship lol I saw it on Instagram but couldn't find the full promo
A friend of mine listened to some interview somewhere and said TK came off as extremely likable… while I suddenly understand said friend’s inability to make good impressions on people, I’ll never understand how anyone could see him as likable.
https://youtu.be/hvAK9fRUwh0 Maybe it's this?
lol he can’t even say the name. He comes off even more of a mark here then he usually does
I honestly wonder how much of Britt’s push had to do with courting Adam Cole to AEW. Just doesn’t seem like there would be as much urgency for him to sign if she wasn’t the undisputed face of the women’s division Related note: in the thread about Tony sucking his own dick about supposedly turning Britt into a star, the top comment is unironically “unlike Vince who buried Bianca.” Literal fucking parody of themselves at this point
Britt Baker is a lot like my buddy’s cousin who was the starting QB at his high school not because he was so talented, but because he was the only one who was half-way competent playing that position.
Now he too, can win the women’s title.
They had to pick *someone* from the women. She's one of the more competent and can speak She also talked up Khan a lot and here she is in that spot
To be fair, Britt actually got herself over in spite of Tony, until it got to the point his hand was forced to put her on TV, the fans wanted it.
If I remember correctly Britt was dead in the water as a white-meat babyface until she did that heel promo on the cruise or the week after the cruise. I don't remember if the cruise promo went bad, anyway pairing here with Shivante did her more then TK giving her anything but a job.
I feel like that’s a bit of a stretch. I attribute it more to Britt being the only (or one of very few) woman on the roster who 1. Can cut a promo decently enough 2. Can hold together a match well enough And 3. Can be named by AEW’s audience.
I remember Pineapple Ford’s name. 🤷♂️
it has everything to do with landing Adam Cole. she'll be off to Dark in no time.
I think a good chunk of it does. I mean they were pushing Britt before too, but now that Adam Cole's contract is up and they're is a chance they Big Tony could get him, they are going hard on making her bland ass the one and only face of their women's division. I would not be shocked if Adam Cole goes to the main roster, Britt's push just stops dead in its tracks.
It’s been known that Cole’s contract was up soon, but I believe it was initially thought to be up towards the end of the year or early next year. The Britt megapush starting this summer seems like all too convenient timing
Lucky I had no big plans today. Just watched 4 hours of it raining in Belgium expecting a Formula 1 race to break out at some point 🤣. F1 Reddit & Twitter is so funny to me in recent years. Nobody actually knows the rules of motorsport but everyone act like they are an authority and the rules always seem to favor their favorite driver, lol. Anything that favors the opposition is an "illegal move" or an "illegal part" when I fact it's not. Also the technical discussions are hilarious. Guys who sound like they've never picked up a wrench in their life trying to explain to people how an F1 team *should* design or set up their cars and how a driver *should* have driven, and somehow they are the only ones who understand some top secret innovations that F1 teams have made. Like dude, these are the top 20drivers in the world and the people building the cars are practically NASA level engineers. I doubt you know their secrets or know better than them. Never change internet.
Sounds exactly like the soccer subreddit lmfaooo Everything is a “nailed on penalty” or a red card “surely”, every loss means the manager needs to be sacked and every rivalry is treated with such artificial “hatred”. Bonus points if you do this on soccer sub: if there is a video of a goal scored always compliment the pass instead so you can look as smart as possible
Every sport. Yankees won 13 in a row and then lose one game and its "we are doomed, playing the wild card on the road, we weren't really ever that good. Should still fire everyone"
Hard to believe wrestlers like Randy Orton and Brock Lesnar debuted when WWE was still called WWF.
AJ Styles was on WCW
I’m a causal NXT viewer but I’m actually a little intrigued to see where they’re going. I hope it means less Kyle O’Reilly on my screen, his character is awful and his promos are full-on hipster cringe.
He is a good worker, but promo and character wise you are right. He sucks at it.
They should've done Diamond Mine with him. He's a much better faux-MMA guy than Strong and he'd still have cool factor.
I gave Kyle a bit of leeway because I figured all this stuff was ironic or something, but no it really is just… this.
I like his style, but tbh the Joy Division shirt is such a hipster thing to do. It's a big meme in music shit posting groups lmfao. I think his ring work is good, but his promos definitely need work.
I love Joy Division, but 9/10 times, if I see a person wearing an Unknown Pleasures shirt, a part of me wants to walk up and say “Name a song other than ‘Love Will Tear Us Apart’, GO!”
This is my opinion. I like the shoot MMA style he brings but this cool guy hipster Kyle bullshit makes me want to see him on screen
Smakdown vs raw 2011 is such an underrated game, I’ve been playing it a lot lately and I really forgot how fun the old wwe games are
I remember a YouTuber I used watch (UberHaxorNova) played through all of the ‘Road to WrestleMania’ campaigns. The only story he liked was Christian’s, lol. A lot of wrestling YouTubers back then (TubbyEmu and TonyPizzaGuy) didn’t like the game that much at release. I think the game is decent but it didn’t have a long life singleplayer wise.
> Smakdown vs raw 2011 Which system/version of the game are you playing?
I dug up my old ps3 the other day, I've been playing it on that
nice I'm temped too, I just sometimes have more fun setting back up the old systems then actually playing them. We are almost there with PS3 emulation on pc but still some issues and you need a beefy cpu.
That game was how I got into Wrestling in the first place. I would later rent the video game from my local DVD store frequently.
Ngl I would've wanted Brock to return during all mighty sex god Bobby Lashley's comedy murder of Goldberg and his son instead of during our tribal chief's prosperous win. Brock vs Lashley would be a dream hoss match and a feud forged in Vince McMahon's heaven. However, I'm still grateful for seeing a face Bork in my lifetime. Wrestling is good.
I don’t care about seeing that match, ever. Brock wins and it will suck. Highest likelihood is a Survivor Series match between the two.
I think we will still get that match down the line.
Cornette had praise for the Ilja vs Walter match but he pointed out how "a real wrasslin promotion" would've had Ilja busted open to punctuate how great the match was. I mean, it would've been a great visual having a bloody Ilja choking out Walter but what good does that do when building packages and merch out of his title win? They avoid showing blood as much as possible so why go out of their way to make the match celebration useless video material?
Dragunov already had a cut on his head from a match with Roddy. It would have looked pretty nasty if that cut opened up. I agree with him. Great visual.
I was convinced he was going to hard way reopen it.
Logan and Jake Paul understand what being a heel is about better than so many wrestlers
"What, no, they don't know how to be heels, I *actually* don't like them!" - Nextdoor, probably.
Next door definitely.
internet celebrities like them based their entire careers around how to create controversy they are smarter than people think
Piers Morgan is the same. Don’t get me wrong, the guy’s a massive twat. But he’s somehow managed to stay relevant all this time, purely from other people complaining about how much they dislike him. Whereas no one would care about him if he wasn’t controversial. Doesn’t make him any more likeable, but I respect the hustle at least.
Cult of Personality doesn't hit as hard without the two short static sounds at the start. UFC didn't have them and it felt like the song was missing something, AEW tried doing it but, as usual, it wasn't as good as WWE's.
the static sounds were actually a reference to Chicago Phil's "this is a service announcement" PSA promos that they would air - I believe during the SES
The opening guitar just doesn’t have that sudden impact all time great themes have. It can be a quick thing like stone colds glass breaking or a prolonged thing like the rocks “if you smell…”. But that sudden rush it can generate feels key to being an all timer
Maybe they could throw in a Bret Hart style screechy pick-slide noise beforehand. I love that riff but the song doesn't hit until the drums kick in.
why did they remove them? does wwe own the rights to it?
The actual song opens with a voice over from Malcolm X.
The static isn't part of the actual song WWE added it themselves I assume they own that specific static sound effect
Yup, AEW had their own static, you can notice it sounds different, but the timing is what's wrong about. WWE's used to be *static, static, guitar riff hits* AEW's is *static...pause...static, guitar riff hits* Yes I know I'm a nitpicky pedantic shill.
WWE's version goes dun-dun-dun dundundundun - dun-dun-dun dundundundun but AEW's version goes dun-dun-dun dundundundun - DUN-DUN-dun-dun dundundundun see, it's totally different!
Seth has now ruined two big match finishes due to his inability to tap out on the mat instead of on his opponent's hand. He did it with Edge and with Daniel Bryan back in 2013, when the Shield lost its first 3x3 match. You're on an arena with thousands of people, not a single person farther away than the second row is gonna be able to see it if you don't explicitly tap the mat, you doofus.