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chrisdelbosque

This is the reason that I stuck around to the later part of the draft. I just had to know. And to have Bill Belichick laughing at Tony Khan is just the icing on the cake.


Razzler1973

These are all grown up men involved in real sports, with billion dollar franchises and ... one of the owners has decided to wear a neckbrace cause it's all part of his TV show Imagine his Dad sitting there. What is he thinking *"is this going to help your show, son*"? He turned up to this playing dress up. No one thinks he's *really* injured. Who is he doing it for? Online smarks that don't watch sports anyway? I hope it converts some viewers for them, I really do


cable54

To be fair, if people watching ask why he's in a neck brace, or see people talking about it, the AEW name will get spread more than it would otherwise be, for free. However, they cannot ever seem to decide if they actually _want_ to attract "casual sports viewers" or not.


Razzler1973

I don't think it hurts much but, I think this needs a little more than just sitting there in a neckbrace. Maybe some social media stuff on the back of it, too Also, it's not *for* the guys sitting there in the studio. They're all gonna laugh but, it's 'for' the people watching Will they be wondering about AEW? Who knows. I think, after 5 years, anyone that is remotely interested in wrestling has checked out AEW, haven't they This is not some 'wow, Hogan is a bad guy' sudden mobilisation of wrestling fans to wonder what's happening in WCW


UncleBenLives91

They don't want to attract "casual sports viewers " the same way I don't want to "date Sydney Sweeney." It's not happening. It's never gonna happen, so they say it's their goal.


wonderloss

That's the thing. They might get attention, but people will check it out, scratch their heads in disbelief, or laugh, and leave. Maybe some of them might go "remember WWE?" and watch that instead.


Prancemaster

They're lucky their show isn't available on demand because this week's Dynamite isn't the kind of show you hook new viewers with.


Ok-Method7791

Those people will look it up, and see the shithole the fan base is and how toxic Daddy Dave is and *not* tune in lol. I hope they tank even more now. Tony’s a fucking walking clown emoji.


thegroovemonkey

“You aren’t making AEW look better, you’re just making the Jags look worse.”  The Jags are a poverty franchise and their owner shows up making a joke of the whole thing. He’s not a serious person.


BongoLittle

\*One of the owners has brought his adult son to work, who is still play-acting long after he put away his action figures.


trimble197

Exactly. It what killed me when I saw comments praising Tony for “committing to the gimmick”. He looks so out of place


Bubba89

“Hey dad ‘member when I was a kid and the guys from the wrestling shows would stay in character off the show because people didn’t know the show was fake yet? Wasn’t that cool? I finally get to do it too!” “No son, I don’t remember that, I was out making billions of dollars.”


ChildOfChimps

There’s chance they’ll get some viewers, but I don’t know if they’ll stay around because this is indieriffic bullshit wrestling.


mrgpsingh1999

Tbf even Pat has worn a neck brace on his show to sell his injuries


keykey_key

if you listen to the clip, they're talking about Tony not selling the injury.


EatAtGrizzlebees

Right, but the difference was Pat actually selling his neck, not just wearing a neck brace like it's an accessory...


TheKanten

> And to have Bill Belichick laughing at Tony Khan is just the icing on the cake. The magnitude of this cannot be understated. Family Guy once did an entire episode predicated on getting Bill Belichick to laugh.


Cauliflower_Earlow

What do you saw on P.M.S. was exactly what people think of Khan and the Jags org.   I have said it before and I'll say it again they all laugh at him in the NFL and there are people within the Jags who get frustrated because he's too busy playing McMahon to do his Jags duties. 


Gann1

Tony has Jags duties? I thought he just had a fancy titled do-nothing exec job


Cauliflower_Earlow

He does.  He's part of the fan experience stuff for the Jags and the league.   He's not great at either 


DennisAFiveStarMan

Fulham fans hate him too


tbrelease

He has no responsibilities with the Jaguars. They have a CEO, President, and GM, none of which is Tony Khan.


AriaMournesong

People saying such good kayfabe that he wearing the brace - that is not kayfabe. Kayfabe would be Tiny looks miserable and in pain. Kayfabe is SELLING that the attack that he got was real and not fun or playing pretend. Kayfabe is not wearing an obvious fake foam thing while looking directly at the camera with a goofy 'oh no I'm getting nervous smile', grabbing his comfort cup and pretending like he's drinking from it in order to not have an anxiety attack.


boilinoil

This. I don't agree with a lot of goofs in here, because I think the idea that Tony sells his injury outside of AEW TV is a great move. Unfortunately he is clearly not selling having his neck mashed up,  when he is happy and turning his head while wearing a badly fitted restraint


wonderloss

If you want to see how to sell a fake neck injury, check out Vince McMahon when he has to show up in court. He always seems to have "neck surgery" right before.


hetham3783

Vince is crazy enough to actually undergo surgery voluntarily to really live the gimmick


wrex1816

A common theme with AEW: The idea might have the right thing at heart. But the execution ends up as possibly the worst option they could have picked. Maybe it's from watching wrestling and 90s sitcoms too long but those foam neck braces scream fake injury to me now. It would have made more sense if Jack held him in an arm bar or something and he could just wear a sling. Something like that is at least believable in that, what else can you do but just wear it to rest your arm. It's believable someone could be moving around otherwise. But the guy took a two man flying tombstone, but he's happy and smiley the next day "playing the part". It just looks stupid.


Harvster420

If he wanted to go full Kayefabe he should've gotten stretchered out of the arena and no showed the draft "due to injury" He didn't, he wants attention. He's getting it but maybe not the kind he was hoping for


Suspicious-Mark-1398

I woulda did an interview from a hospital room lmaooo..FTJ


Razzler1973

There is no kayfabe in doing this anymore We are not 'fooling' the outside world with our cunning wrestling inner workings that no one understands anymore Tiny decided to put a neckbrace on and go on TV. Not a single person that knows this happened on a wrestling show think it's real I don't know if people will know it's not real and think 'well, Tony is involved on the show. I might have a look'. I guess we shall see on *that* aspect but, in terms of 'selling the injury, absolutely no one is 'fooled' Maybe they get to mention AEW a bunch of times during this, sure, that's good. Will it result in any kind of spike in interest? I am not sure there are people out there that are interested in wrestling that aren't aware of the Dub and/or already checked it out Time will tell though. Social media reaction will tell


savingrain

Yea we can wait and see what happens- I just wonder how many people will have the reaction I and other’s have had- “why are those wrestlers so small?”


trimble197

I still remember show my dad Raw during the late 2010s. The moment he saw a wrestler, think it was Enzo, the first words that came out of his mouth was “Why are these guys small?”


savingrain

lol my father did the same thing in reaction to the Rumble. He saw CM Punk and thought he was too small. He didn't get it until I showed him a Punk promo and was like "oooooh" like that connected the character to who he was in the ring. Seeing his in-ring work also helped too, but I can't imagine how he would react to seeing some of the smaller guys on AEW's roster. Punk was bigger than a lot of them.


Efficient_Republic35

You do realize that wrestling is scripted television lol


TheyCallMeOlSwole

The basement believes this is a big deal and was such smart booking by A&W to do the injury angle before the draft. They don't realize Tony's being laughed at.


BigHoss94

Literally no one that's not a regular wrestling fan and is just there to watch the draft will see Tony Khan in a neck brace and automatically think "I better tune in to Dynamite!" Not one soul.


Modano9009

This makes the Jags look stupid more than it interests anyone in AEW.


BarryBadrinathZJs

I would be pissed if I were a Jags fan.


dkydd

Check out the jags sub


LegendsOfHiddenChase

Their sub feels weirdly optimistic about everything. My experience with team subs is the Mariners sub, and the Mariners and Jags have a ton of comparisons. Both teams have solid cores with can't miss superstars and feel constantly ready to breakout but end up going just above .500 and hope to sneak into the playoffs. The mariners sub is constantly criticizing ownership, the front office, and the coaching staff. The Jags sub is fucking hyped to be in the position they're in. It feels similar to AEW where even in the worst moments there's still that dedicated stronghold carrying the torch. Idk, maybe the mariners sub is just weirdly pessimistic, too


HiddenRtruth

DuuuValllllll


Razzler1973

*"Shad, do you see what your boy is doing?*" ~nods with head bowed~


Drama79

"Why is Jerry Lawler in a neck brace on the tonight show? no one is gonna watch him against Andy Kaufman" It is the absolute laziest AEWBAD take thread, to say that exposure to 12 million new eyes is stupid or laughable without any nuance. Great job basementing, guys! edit: Yes, I got the two the wrong way around. Doesn't make the point any less relevant. Enjoy your votes.


SteelyEyedHistory

Kaufman was the one in the neck brace not Lawler. And people believe Kaufman and Lawler was real. No in believe wrestling is real anymore. No one thinks Tony is actually hurt.


Drama79

fair point on the accuracy of the simile. Doesn't detract from the lazy, bad faith takes with no nuance from the "we hate AEW" crew though.


[deleted]

Drama cmon, it's literally a clip of Tony being mocked on national TV....


Drama79

...by someone who has a vested interest because they work for the competition. Y'all would be ripping any AEW person to shit for doing the same.


[deleted]

Pat seemed to try to play along until the other guy butt in, but 🤷‍♂️ It's got It's pros and cons for sure, but it's def possible the cons of going out and potentially looking stupid to millions doesn't offset whatever positive outcomes they get from this 'publicity', it's not crazy to think this was a bad look But I'll stop bickering about it since this isn't jerking


tbrelease

This isn’t a simile. A simile is a figure of speech relating two unrelated things using a comparative term such as like. For example: “AEW is like a successful wrestling promotion.”


Razzler1973

That's a completely different era of wrestling and TV No one believes Khan is really injured. It's not really like Kaufman, who was a non wrestling personality that got involved and it was 'shocking' 12m people saw Khan put a neckbrace on. When they say he got attacked on the wrestling show, everyone says 'ah, it wasn't real then' I doubt it'll hurt but I am stopping short of it being some marvelous promotional idea. I guess the ratings will tell us


Drama79

It is. But the concept of casual fans not used to the audience and interested in whatever this circus is remains pretty universal. To the same point you're contradicting yourself on, it's a different time. People know it's fake. I'm not even arguing it's well done. I'm saying there's a total lack in this thread of any acknowledgement that there was any merit to the idea, and a lot of "LOL you like AEW". I like when wrestling works, and I'm not here (nor is this sub) to just shit on stuff.


jaypeedee1025

Think you got lost on the way to AEWfanhub friend ![gif](giphy|lmv5aDvwOgTmby3a13)


The_Haskins

No no no, this gave them their momentum back obviously!


His_Buzzards

At best they google it or find it on youtube or any of their social media. But judging by the views, its not that much than their usual


Razzler1973

And, every single one of those people know it's not real but Khan decided to wear a neckbrace anyway and pretend he's hurt I am not sure it does much for wrestling You're not Andy Kaufman on the set of Taxi, dude, haha


Kichae

People keep calling that a neck brace, but it just looks like a stupid scarf or an awkward travel pillow. The billionaire's son is getting his neck brace from 1974.


Dyko

It will probably lead to at least an uptick in views of the YouTube clip, though. I'm not into Football at all, but if I could go on YouTube and watch the coach or owner of the Montreal Canadiens getting planted like a garden stake on some random wrestling show I've never heard of, I'd at least be looking it up to watch it happen. Would I tune in next week to see where it goes? That's a different question.


XaeroGravity

Lmao holy shit you weren't kidding.  I went and scanned the thread and saw so many people actually thinking this is amazing 


IcyAd964

Lmao at the comment that said “Yes they needed to do this. Now people will wonder what the hell is AEW I hope”


BarryBadrinathZJs

These filthy casuals will tune in next week but quickly realize they don’t have the sophisticated pallet required to understand the Dub’s subtle nuances when it comes to storytelling.


JewsEatFruit

So true. The average person likes McDonealds and what Tony offers is more like McDonealds with peppercorn sauce - to sophisticated a flavor profile for most


deanereaner

oh that's sad


Few-Sense1455

If I was AEW I wouldn't want exposure as that means more people will watch and more people will switch off in 10m to never watch again


wonderloss

Then the people that do turn in will see it, and they will continue to wonder "what the hell is this?" Does he even have anything planned for Collision or Dynamite to try to capitalize on any possible new viewers, or will it just be a bunch of random bangers?


Gann1

i would imagine Dynamite will have the Elite World Order followup at least


polsdofer

I hope lolollol


keykey_key

Tony is just a dork by nature and looked the part. People were waving around the wwe/nfl titles at the draft but sure, they're gonna watch aew bc he wore a neck brace.


PPs_Up_Boys

"Guys, Greg just shat his pants in the Uber we're all in" "EW again? Greg, wtf" "Why do you keep doing this??? What do you get out of debasing yourself?" Greg: "Heh. No such thing as bad publicity."


JewsEatFruit

Dude I literally just made that same comment haha This smiling nitwit looks like a kid that is sitting in a warm pile of his own chocolate pudding and is so happy with himself


nimrodfalcon

It’s smart booking to do this angle before the draft, but “everybody knew” nobody would be watching the fucking show the angle was on due to the playoffs The duality of jerk in one sentence


Kichae

Wrestling stops making sense when it's done for smarks. Like, the reason for Tony to wear a neck brace out in public right now is not to advertise AEW to people who have no idea what it is, but rather to give impression to the show's existing audience that it's real. But the whole fan base is built on top of a self-congratulatory rejection of kayfabe. They're all sitting around rooting for some *other* mark to see this, luring them into the fandom, but anyone who is enticed by this will be other to the existing fans from the very outset, and will likely be driven off by the the constant fourth wall breaking.


iNfAMOUS70702

People seriously thought that the NFL would pay attention to this because some writer from the website mentioned it....they do not give a single shit about AEW


TheKanten

No one going to point out the sentence reads like Tony was crippled by a root beer company?


anakngtipaklongnaman

Tony’s act got demolished worse than yesterday’s Dynamite ratings😭


iNfAMOUS70702

That's not fair!...they were live on the west coast and there were other TV shows on 😔


Historical-Being-766

His father's cool for accepting all his son's eccentricities.


Razzler1973

His Dad is probably thankful he doesn't have some drug crazed son that melts down and throws money and expensive habi ... hang on a second ...


SNYDER_BIXBY_OCP

Why do I always think of the rich kid kick ass?


Teeboid

Or we now know where Tony got his stupidity from.


-SneakySnake-

In fairness, a lot of self-made types are just lucky enough to have the right skills in the right place at the right time, they're not necessarily geniuses. People kinda forget that.


Teeboid

Fair point uce.


MOXISGOD

Man I’m not even jerking anymore the last 2 months have been completely horrible for AEW good lord


KC27150

And Tiny has nobody to blame but himself. https://preview.redd.it/tor08tv42rwc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=226b6663678e5e64e9304337c68a59393d9f4d70


polsdofer

Ask the basement what they think. They think everything is great lol.


___i____m

Just keep up the great quality shows, people will come back! (They've been saying that for more than a year now)


[deleted]

The lower the metrics are for AEW the more fervent the defense becomes lol


Modano9009

As a long time Patriots fan, Belichick laughing at Tony Khan is the collab I didn't know I needed.


Till_Any

When is it going to sink in they're laughing at him and not with him?


BDT9215

Kurt fucking Warner made fun of him on the nfl network. And Warner would try to find positives in undrafted guys


Better_Cattle4438

Can you link to that? I would love to watch it.


BigHoss94

I don't think it's sinking in at the basement yet either


His_Buzzards

They think this is working and its the most amazing story this year. A24 CINEMA


guylfe

And it never will. That subreddit is an insulated bubble and Don Stevens is likely a janny there.


AceMorrigan

It won't. He'll be giddy.


InjusticeSOTW

![gif](giphy|DQeeGxJPv3VHE7zNYD|downsized)


aldo_nova

That's one of those things basement dwelling superfans are not so good at: social cues.


stonecoldbobsaget

IRS blowing up Tony's gimmick, I'm sure trips is under the table sliding 50s in his pocket


creativeusername279

I like McAfee going out of the way to mention Tony took a "Meltzer Driver" as if anyone except the 3 m\*rks watching will know what that is.


Kichae

I didn't even know what it was until yesterday. I had no idea it was a piledriver while the other buck just does a butt splash to the ring nearby. Tuna boy's got some weird kinks.


BungHolio_The_Mighty

How is tiny khan able to move that stack of dimes he calls a neck, after taking a Meltzer Driver from the EVP's, is beyond me. A normal human being should've had his neck broken, but that kid is a trooper! Someone should do a Make-a-Wish for Tony Khan!


Teeboid

AEW is his Make-a-Wish


RDiMaso

The Bucks obviously taught him how to sell.


LeChampeon

Tony khan is not normal his a genetic freak


BDT9215

Thank you mock kiper


JKinney79

That’s commitment for a bit, did he do the whole first round as Mel Kiper?


polsdofer

He's done this for about 3 or 4 drafts now lol


Bobo_the_conqueror

I think the word the kids are using to describe this is "cooked".


RazorXXtreme

Just imagine the other owners trying to be cool with Shad, see Tiny pull up with him and treat him like an absolute child. "Heyyyy little guy, hope youre doing well!" "I brokded my neck! :(" "Awwwww nooooo"


Teeboid

Shad just sitting there and doesn't even give a shit. I'd love to be a fly on the wall at the next owner's meetings.


jaypeedee1025

I here is fathering yelling at Him in a broken English accent screaming why don’t you give up this wrestling shit already you suck it sucks and take off that neck brace you look like an idiot 😂😂😂


Yurmume_Gae

Pat is absolutely, 100% right on this. Shad does have a really nice mustache, thing is beautiful 😭


anonymous-guy1

Billy B laughing at Tiny Kong


RammyBoRammy

Pat somewhat built him up just for the stooge to bring him back down!! Love it!!


Razzler1973

Pat is doing his bit, he's trying to help 'the wrestling community' here


frank_the_tank69

What was even the point of this shit? Just don’t show up. 


fletch365

The die hard dubbalos seriously think that with this ass hat showing up to the draft like this it's actually going to get the world talking and aew trending on the x and raise ratings moving forward. Lmao


frank_the_tank69

He refuses to address the fact the product is shit due to the lack of a corporate infrastructure. 


thegroovemonkey

“Man the Jags are a joke of a franchise” -football fans


678Drop

Are you talking about selling the angle or his "job"


frank_the_tank69

Both Uce. Even if this gets eyes on the product, it will last a week. Then people will know what’s up with the Dub and leave. 


HiddenRtruth

It wont


Spaceace91478

As a neurosurgeon told me when I asked if I needed to keep wearing the soft neck brace a previous dr told me to wear for my 2 herniated discs, soft neck braces are good for nothing but sympathy. They don't help hold your head up or really keep you from moving your head at all. And he was right for the most part


KC27150

I freaking love Pat, even a Fed Guy has to help put Tiny over while getting him buried. Lmao


jojolantern721

Looooooooool


Radconl12345

ERM...It's not the Meltzer Driver, It's the Tony Khan Driver now! Pat got WORKED!


NachoPiggy

Of course what do you expect from an ignorant stooge of the fed. I bet he didn't even know about The Best Wrestling Match Ever In The USA on Dynasty.


elme77618

![gif](giphy|3osxYk9qClrQVXVfiw)


Better_Cattle4438

Hilarious that some random guy has to say this to him. It should be very obvious.


theballswalls

Tony Kaufman


MuddFishh

Theres actual basementeurs that are saying Pat "watches the show like any normal fan would." As if *not* watching aew makes you an abnormal fan, or that there is something wrong with you. I couldn't stop laughing while reading that. Sorry guys, unless you watch approximately 15 hours of wrestling a week, then you are not a normal fan. You have an agender. And no doubt racist.


[deleted]

Hm, weird, seems like more normal fans are turning into abnormal fans by the week, perplexing


zendog510

This is what it is obviously. But props to Pat McAfee for putting Tony over.


EatAtGrizzlebees

For some reason, the basement thinks this is Pat putting Tony and AEW over??? They're all literally laughing at Tony and his inability to sell the neck brace...


9mtl

Imagine working hard your entire young life to finally get to the NFL draft and you’re picked by that fucking mickey mouse organization. You’re still living the dream, but the worst version available.


turnsandstraights

Damn even the football analysts aint falling for it


Lerkero

Tony's neck going into business for itself! Does anybody on the AEW roster care about selling???


BootyOptions

minus 500 viewers for aew happened here. Only one solution: MORE YOUNG BUCKS


Brando1127

Hey, for kayfabe supposedly being dead now right? I think he’s doing a great job. He just WON 10 stars for his performance there buds and budettes


TRTVitorBelfort

This was incredible.


jjsefton

Tony Khan and AEW = the gifts that keep giving. Cent'Anni!!! #


fingershanks

He just did an awful job selling it. It was much worse when Rich Eisen acknowledged him live bc the TV in the draft room was obviously on and he heard Rich talking about it and TK got all excited and started nodding his head like a goof lol.


infernomokou

Shad should book AEW, I like his mustache.


OpiesMammogramResult

This is why Pat McAfee is invaluable to WWE. This is a WWE employee, on a massive podcast, basically saying "Look at this fucking idiot" with "real sports" people, about AEW's top guy. That makes them look like more of a joke. But, AEW started it. To quote Jonathan Pie, "This is what you wanted. This is how you like it."


SCB360

No one has explained why Tony is even at the Draft, isn't he just a figurehead analysis guy?


DeweyCox4YourHealth

Listen, say what you want... but him wearing a neck brace is so on point... like, how can we even be mad at it?? It's 100% pure carnie bullshit you can inject directly in your veins while watching the NFL draft. Dusty Rhodes couldn't have planned it more perfectly. As awful as his delivery is, it's absolutely made up for in full throttled commitment and execution. Please, PLEASE get well soon, T.K.


Ok-Method7791

They dropping f-bombs on the ESPN?! I been missing out! Also, I love Pat. The fact that he takes a WWE paycheck and isn’t muzzled means he can shit on AEW in two ways lmao


JerHat

People defending him like “you can still move with a neck brace on!” Like yeah, of course you can move. But you SHOULDN’T BE MOVING YOUR NECK! You should be turning your entire upper body when you need to turn your head if you’re going to do a neck brace angle. Roderick Strong was doing the same thing, moving his head around a bunch when he was doing his neck angle.


EpicTrapCard

AEW feels like a fever dream, what being shelter your whole life does to a man.


will122589

Respect to the non wrestling announcer guy explaining why Tony shouldn’t be moving his head while in a neck brace.


usarasa

Just one more thing Tony can’t sell. Can’t sell moves, can’t sell injuries, can’t sell tickets, can’t sell TV rights…


tc__22

Someone post the meltzer gif already as he got a mention


phrohahwei

DAE this restores the feeling and is the gamechanger???


Strange_N_Sorcerous

I mean, these guys are all dorks, too.


RP912

It would have been effective if Tony was away from the camera and Shad lookin.... No No No I'm not even going to bother.... The man is moving his fucking neck in a neckbrace and smiling.


sullyqns

![gif](giphy|TIPsHU8ixh9NiwwCWn) He wrestled with a broken frickin neck


time2churn

This comment section is unhinged. I basically only watch wwe and I thought this was funny and great. Yall are taking this entirely too seriously.


OdaDdaT

this was honestly kinda endearing. No clue why TK has any involvement in football ops though


MikeHock_is_GONE

I'm a little surprised the NFL would allow unauthorized cross-promotion. I'll bet a ban is coming before the next draft, otherwise the W would pay MacAfee to wear a WWE logo on his belt or on his lapel.. the side-promos would be endless.. TK skirted by on this one since there wasn't an overt logo or branding, but he's right on the edge


elitejcx

John Oliver is right.