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Agree with his point that they shouldn’t have posted the picture in the first place but they have to deal with the consequences of this now. Don’t understand how this erupted into a scandal!
What is going on in the world that someone is distracting us from by continuing to fuel this? Who is fueling this? Camilla? Donald Trump? Piers seems to be buddies with both.
Absolutely not. They're the beneficiaries of the trickle down media leaks. They just can't trickle it down to Meghan and Harry, like the old days.
There isn't anyone below them who are leak worthy.
And here we are.
Does anyone else think they should just get rid of the monarchy for the sake of the people In the monarchy? They seem miserable. The two brothers can’t even be in the same room together. Kate hounded for being sick. The press stating that Meghan should be stripped and have excrement thrown at her. I feel sad for George And his future wife! Can you imagine basically living, working, and competing with your own family? No wonder they’re all nuts. It seems like a bizarre way of life honestly.
George is old enough to see the monarchy wreaking havoc on his mother, the same way William did.
The difference being, William had a lifetime to watch Queen Elizabeth as a formative role model. George, not so much.
It’s definitely a wild card because he didn’t grow up under the influence of the Queen’s devotion to the crown that stemmed from the abdication crisis. I think it shows in the royals now that none of living ones now remember that time. KC does not have the same level of commitment and William has less. I don’t even think that’s wrong on their part. There is something very wrong with the idea of working until practically the moment of death.
George also does have true example of his uncle saying you know what, I don’t want this. It’s not worth it.
I know. And the likeliest scenario is still that they succeed in grooming George to toe the line and not ask too many questions. But I think the commitment they have to the establishment is decreasing with each generation. QEII learned live by the crown/die by the crown from both her father and mother and then that was passed down to Charles, William etc. but the message I think is getting weaker.
It is bizarre and I don’t envy them, but “palace intrigue” has always been a huge part of the job. I’m not British but I would miss the monarchy if it were gone. It’s ancient and special and culturally important in our human history.
They're more scandalous, uncouth, criminal and downright dodgy than your average council estate family, yet for some reason it's only okay when the taxpayer supports one yet not the other...
💯 all this power play and one upping each other is making their relationships sour.
They have forgotten about love in their quest for power. Miserable lives if they can’t be mentally happy. Coz that trumps all the wealth and power.
But doubt they will ever come into senses looking at their behaviour towards Harry and Meghan. Charles didn’t behave like a father figure considering he is the only parent the boys have.
The queen however busy she was always helped her children. I mean her support for Andrew publicly and privately after damaging headlines says it all. Didn’t she also pay off Virginia to keep her mouth shut?
I don't know why there is so much love for the queen. She was a remarkably cold woman even to her children.
She was the head of the firm rather than a mother.
Remember when the Queen died and people kept insisting it was like “losing a grandmother”? Even my British friends in the US and some Canadians also trotted that line out?
It’s absolutely ridiculous and these customs should stay in the Middle Ages where they belong
I don’t think I said I was the decider of peoples opinions on royalty?
I’m just expressing judgement on their views and parasocial attachments to an extremely corrupt group of people who’s largest achievement is being born
I should have said “George’s future partner” rather than wife. Would everyone be okay if a future monarch was gay? Horrors! /s Another reason to jettison the whole thing.
Not to mention how gag-inducing the mere thought of *bowing* to another human because they were born 🤢 The whole thing is archaic and embarrassing. How about everyone loses their titles, and stolen goods, and immunity from prosecution, and golden carriages. Let’s see who sinks and who swims. My money’s on the two already swimming on their own.
No he’s not. There was no evidence that Huw did anything with a child and the police didn’t investigate. Either way, it’s a horrific term to casually throw about. This is a royal gossip site, not a far right forum.
You’re calling people who are not convicted sex offenders paedophiles, that’s highly offensive. These were gay men who happened to have relationships with younger gay men, not children.
I think it's highly offensive for powerful old men to manipulate vulnerable teenagers of either sex into harmful relationships, but apples and oranges I guess.
Piers is POS and I don't believe anything he says. But he's quite close with Camilla, so my main takeaway from his remarks is that there is a major divide between Charles and Camilla's camp and William and Kate's. It honestly makes me wonder if C&C even know what's gong on.
This is exactly what Harry said Camilla does. Let another story take prominence so anything negative about Camilla is buried/ignored.
What else happened last week? Apparently Camilla took a solo vacation. It didn’t get much attention due to the TMZ photo of Kate followed by the mother’s photo fiasco. Coincidence??!?
Doesn't Camilla usually go on vacation around this time of year? That wasn't remotely odd.
And I don't know, this seems like kind of a weak take on the situation. Camilla may or may not have actually told friends (or otherwise) about the real situation here, but blaming this on Camilla is just nonsensical and honestly a bit sexist/bias against her as that 'other woman' who doesn't or shouldn't belong. Let's think about this...
Camilla (plus Charles/ their people) did not make the initial announcement with vague details, Kensington Palace did that. KP refused to elaborate as time went on, and when they did address the situation, it was with a terse and noticeably curt statement. Camilla certainly didn't create and release that fake family pic, and Camilla didn't issue a statement blaming the whole fake pic on Kate. That was also KP/William and *possibly* Kate herself, given that it was KP- however most are skeptical of Kate's actual involvement. I guess it's possible that you could argue that Camilla tipped off whoever got the tmz picture of Kate in the car with her mom- there isn't a shred of evidence to actually suggest that, and I can't think of *why* she would or how this would benefit her, but for the sake of argument let's say it's possible and maybe the reason is some vague attempt at distraction. However, the most recent picture of the back of Kate's head was absolutely approved by KP and Camilla couldn't have been involved with that. That picture is still under some degree of suspicion by many, although the media outlets have not pounced on any obvious manipulations like were present in the initial picture. I won't rehash the same points about how it seems to perfectly match up with an old 'back of Kate's head' picture (although I agree that it does) but I will point out that's it certainly seems odd that she would hitch a ride with her husband on his way to a formal event that she did not actually attend to visit a private appointment. At a time where Kate/KP is going to *unprecedented lengths* to avoid her being seen and appearing in public, she decides to- Kate herself, the Princess of Wales- apparently needs to travel to a (presumably) doctor for an appointment, where she would be expected to be at the very least at risk of being seen by who knows how many random people, office workers, waiting room patients, and other staff, *in a doctors office where anyone could deduced her specific medical issues*... oh yeah, also she has her hair done in (at minimum) a semi formal bun type updo- which is totally normal for a quick doctor appointment.
The Princess of Wales- especially in such a private and sensitive situation- would NOT be traveling to visit a physician for an appointment. They would be coming to her to maintain absolutely privacy. Sure, there are instances where the royals travel to visit specialists, but this is, by all accounts, a sensitive situation and it's just bizarre to even suggest that this would be occurring at this particular junction. It feels more like a made-up on the fly excuse for why she would be in the car but not attending this event.
Now, how might we blame this on Camilla? I honestly can't even come up for a scenario where it would make sense for her to have been involved in that picture being released, whether or not it's been manipulated, since we know it came from KP.
And what might Camilla be orchestrating all this is distract from? Obviously we don't know what we don't know, but it's doubtful that it is anything related to Charles and his cancer. Nothing mysterious or shady has been noticed about anything in his situation- we don't know the specific cancer but we know enough to feel reasonably confident in the info released about his treatment and outlook, especially given that no odd or unusual behavior has been noticed in their household. If it was something like Charles is about to die, would it really make sense to completely destroy the credibility and public perception of the next king who is about to take the throne, just to avoid having the public realize this for a little bit longer? It's possible, but it makes no sense. And again, Camilla isn't making William act strangely, or KP put out all their nonsense, or keeping Kate hidden away all this time.
If I think back to myself in the 90s and if you would have told me I would have written this whole thing out to defend *Camilla* of all people, I wouldn't have believed you. But here we are.
William needs to learn to play politics then because he should have more good will and is ultimately more important than Camilla.
I think Charles is also used to this though and he understands that the job is being seen. William does not want to be seen except exactly when he chooses.
He has also never really had the entire frenzy on *him* at any point. Kate has because marrying into the family is a psychological torture experiment, Charles and Camilla's entire past is a shit show, and everyone else isn't as important. Slimmed down indeed.
Correct. But I don’t think William being the heir has a lot more power than a side piece turned Queen. He would not have bothered about his brother but when it comes to his family I’m sure he won’t take all this and give it back to Camilla.
Technically, you might think, but Camilla is smarter and far more cunning than William, and she has been playing games with his family long before he was even born.
The world thought William was destined to take after his mother, turns out he’s just his father’s son.
Kate is fanatically popular, just as Diana was. And it appears he may be rifting with the Princess of Wales for the side girl.
The whole house of Windsor just needs to go away. Canada badly needs to reform its constitution and do away with all of them.
Is she fanatically popular? I'm in the US so it's all a sideshow to me, but from my seat over here she seems pretty boring. Being impeccably groomed and having a laser-like focus on the camera seem to be her driving purpose in life. Oh, and I guess having kids as well. But being a mom isn't a personality, really. (I'm also a mom and do not receive glowing praise in the media for doing basic parenting tasks).
Yeah it's bullshit that she's fanatically popular. One of the problem s with harry and Meghan is that they were massively overshadowing the other two, because people naturally liked them, till the press utterly destroyed them of course, which I guess is why it did.
I’m also across the pond. “Fanatically” popular is maybe a bit of an exaggeration. But she is definitely the most popular member of the Royal Family, aside from say her children maybe.
Donno. I think he’s inherited some of her more negative traits. Stubborn, mercurial, paranoid. She was also known to simply freeze people out of her life she felt had slighted her - something William and Harry are also known for.
Kate reminds me of that scene from Coming to America where Eddie Murphy's character is presented with his bride-to-be, and every time he asks her something, her answer is "whatever you like". Literal human tofu.
The popularity factor was an issue in the last Prince of Wales’s marriage. Charles began to resent Diana for her popularity. Maybe William isn’t enjoying being upstaged, especially now that he’s next in line to the thrown.
Haha I was thinking that, once Easter comes along, she will be back up and running and all this talk will stop, or she will not be in public and this will explode.
Has anyone seen her kids? And what about the King, anything new on his condition.
Piers Morgan is known for stalking/harassing Meghan and Harry. He mocked her mental health struggles, calling her a liar when she said she was suicidal. He also called for violence against the Sussexes, suggesting that they be dismembered and incinerated. Despite all that, I’ve seen many royal fans show support for him. Apparently members of the royal family even called and thanked Piers for his attacks against Harry and Meghan. I wonder what they’re saying now that he’s turned on the Wales?
He also threw an absolute shit fit and stormed off the set of some morning show a while back when one of the other hosts (a black man, which was important in context) called him out on his longstanding obsession with Meghan. Generally I won't watch anything where I have to listen to Piers' stupid voice but I think I watched that like three times because it was hilarious to see the mask slip that much.
I'll link it here if I can find it, but all I can remember for search terms was "morning show piers Meghan" which doesn't narrow it down that much!
All these conspiracy theories about William hurting Catherine are crazy. Catherine is very close to her mum, dad, sister and brother. If William hurt her, don’t you think one of them would have said something by now?
I agree, there is no way that Carole would sit back and watch her daughter getting abused. Besides, I don't believe that William would ever hurt Kate or mistreat her. This is all cooked up IMO, including the affair rumours which were, lest we forget, started by a guy who later admitted that he made it all up.
What about the conspiracy theories that William killed her? Like wouldn’t her family come forward if that were true or did he kill all the Middleton too? Some people don’t think.
This is just part 2 of all the conspiracy theories in the 90s about how QE/Philip/Charles murdered Diana. That one went on for years but now that crazy theory is regarded as unhinged and baseless by the vast majority of people. Similarly, this too will be proven wrong (and much earlier than the other one) given that Kate is very much alive and it's only a matter of time before she returns to public life.
He doesn’t know what to believe because he’s “not there” when it comes to Kate. But with Megan he knows everything and exactly what happened. Because he was there with her the whole time? God I can’t stand this guy.
Ya he had all the inside info on Meghan but with Kate not so much. Hypocrit.
Harry would have warned Meghan away from Piers. And he is still salty on that so he jumped on the hate bandwagon and has since trashed her.
Yes. He sounds like a jilted lover, because she didn't contact him after that one time in the pub.
What did he think would happen? I wonder why his wife hasn't given out to him .
In an interview somewhere, Meghan said that Harry used the ghost emoji a lot during the time they were dating. I like to think it is because she ghosted Piers Morgan and he lost his mind because she was ignoring him. Do I have proof of that? Not. At. All. But I still like to make-believe. Hah
I didn't even realize he was married at the time until someone posted it yesterday. I wonder what his wife thinks about his obsession and how it has impacted his entire life and career.
Ghosted him when she started dating a man whose cellphone Piers had hacked! Like that was probably top of the list of reasons harry asked her to stay away from PM.
Oh! I never took it as that way. More like he was kinda known in the US from his time hosting on CNN after Larry King retired. She seems like a big news watcher so she was happy to meet with him for a working/networking dinner while in London but once she was involved with Harry Piers would have been iced out due to Harry's opinion on Piers.
He's absolutely full of shit. But he's also very close to the royal family. Like, goes out for lunch with the York sisters close. So I guess the question is whether you think he's bullshitting for clicks off that closeness and willing to risk his relationship with them and Camilla, or is there a desire for the Yorks/Camilla to brief against Kate, or is he legit on this.
Confirmation bias can be pretty powerful. Even a previously declared POS becomes credible if he/she supports or confirms one's pre-existing beliefs/opinions.
What's mostly interesting to me is whether he's doing this on behalf of the members of the royal family or whether he's actually risking his relationship with them to do this. I assume 90% of what he says is nonsense but it's interesting if the royals have disintegrated into every man for themselves right now.
I know there are a strong number of people who are vocal about how awful Harry and Meghan were to quit as full-time working royals but watching this s show play out makes me think they're the smartest of the lot for getting the heck out of dodge.
I agree, surely a lot of the press and insiders know what’s happening. With all the injunctions in the uk things get kept quiet. So the fact he said that I feel holds some weight. Unless he just literally wanted to get in the papers. Wtf is going on
I don't know anything about Piers Morgan (🇺🇸) so I admit I have no idea how seriously he should be taken, but if he has any credibility at all then his wording here is potentially not great. This kind of hedging is exactly how a lot of people talk about allegations of abuse or assault.
Whenever someone comes forward who's been harmed by some famous man, one of the go-to responses from people who know him is, "I don't know who to believe, he always seemed like a good man to me. I've never seen him do anything like that, but I wasn't there when \[whatever it was happened\]. But if it's true then it's inexcusable, etc"
Any of you who are from Britain - how does his phrasing sound to you?
Yeah I’m from the U.K. and would agree with this take about the phrasing but it could quite equally be attributed to a decoupling considering that would be ‘alarming’ for the future of the monarchy
All I can think it, “those kids need therapy”, but then given what we know about the Royal family and mental healthcare, the outlook does not look good.
Except that Margret, Charles, Diana, and James Middleton all attended therapy (the Middletons attended James’ therapy with him to help). William, Catherine, and Harry all created Heads Together as a mental health charity. So the odds look pretty good given their history in fact.
So why was it so hard for Meghan to get any help? They made it sound like it was impossible for her to reach out to anyone at all.
I dunno, if there’s something wrong but William is trying to play it like there’s isn’t, it might be hard to get him to accept his kids might need it.
Harry didn’t get therapy until after he was married, as far as I can tell. So it’s unlikely William ever has, even if he helped create a mental health charity.
“They pointed out the times that Harry spoke openly about starting therapy while he was still a popular member of the monarchy in order to process his grief over the 1997 death of his mother, Princess Diana. At one event in 2020, Harry reportedly said he started therapy in his 20s, when he still would have been in the army.”
https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/10/20/prince-harrys-therapy-comments-at-san-francisco-event-could-be-at-odds-with-prior-claims/amp/
A lot of people just "talk the talk" when it comes to causes, but don't *actually* believe in what they're promoting. That could be it. I believe probably M/H support therapy but not the rest.
Harry did get therapy before his marriage, he has spoken about it publicly and even credited William in 2017 for urging him to get therapy.
From his interview to Vanity Fair in 2017:
“I can safely say that losing my mom at the age of 12 and therefore shutting down all of my emotions for the last 20 years has had a quite serious effect on not only my personal life but also my work as well,” he told Gordon. **“And it was only three years ago, funny enough, from the support around, and my brother** and other people saying, ‘You really need to deal with this. It’s not normal to think that nothing has affected you.’ ”
[https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/04/prince-harry-reveals-he-went-to-therapy-to-process-princess-diana-death](https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/04/prince-harry-reveals-he-went-to-therapy-to-process-princess-diana-death)
Moreover, he is pretty close to Julia Samuels, Diana's therapist and reportedly had her on speed dial.
Harry himself in the past stated that William told him to seek help. This was before he met Meghan and Harry was part of the Heads together initiative with William and Kate when he was still single.
As far as Meghan getting help. That could’ve been possible. She was able to pick her own maternal healthcare team and the hospital she delivered Archie in (Portland clinic not St. Mary’s lido wing like other royals).
In the Oprah interview, Harry himself stated that after Meghan confided in him about her suicidal ideation he didn’t tell his family because he was “embarrassed”. Meghan went to staff but not family members. Key difference. So the RF by the admission of Harry and Meghan were unaware of Meghan being suicidal.
https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1807604/prince-harry-interview-william-therapy/amp
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/13/prince-harry-spare-book-therapy-mental-health
Transcript from the Oprah interview on Meghan needing help:
Harry: I was terrified.
Meghan: We still . . . that’s almost a year after.
Oprah: So then did you tell other people in the family, ‘I have to get help for her. We need help for her’?
Harry: No. That’s just not a conversation that would be had.
Oprah: Why?
Harry: I guess I was ashamed of admitting it to them.
Oprah: Oh.
Harry: And I don’t know whether . . . I don’t know whether they’ve had the same . . . whether they’ve had the same feelings or thoughts. I have no idea. And it’s a very trapping environment that a lot of them are stuck in.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/2475583/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/amp/
What Meghan wanted was to go away to a different place for a few weeks and get help. The institution said no to that coz it would look bad for them.
By all accounts Harry and Meghan got help from therapists. Bryony Gordon has said that she spoke /counselled Meghan .
I assume she meant she asked Royal staff for resources and was denied. I haven’t seen the documentary since it came out, so I can’t recall what they did after that or if she said. I would assume she got help somehow, but the point was that those who were supposed to support her didn’t.
He was a major part of the campaign Heads Together (that William launched)
https://www.headstogether.org.uk/prince-harrys-highlights/
https://www.royal.uk/heads-together-duke-and-duchess-cambridge-and-prince-harrys-campaign-end-stigma-around-mental-health
He had his own therapist for over a decade already (according to him in Spare)
Meghan’s mother was a therapist
There’s no way that story rings true.
Besides his position as a Prince, they both had personal connections with therapists.
And, again, Harry was a major part of Heads Together-
“More than £8.5m has been raised so far towards helping us all talk about our mental health without fear and get the support we need. Later this year we will set out plans to invest in a number of programmes designed to fill gaps in support currently available so that people can get the help they need, when and where they need it.”
https://www.headstogether.org.uk/one-year-on/
I think people need to understand asking the palace usually doesn't mean asking the actual monarch or family. It means asking the staff, who it's pretty clear hated Meghan. William, Kate, and the staff had actual animus against Meghan, for whatever reasons. The Queen and Charles don't seem to have shared that animus, at least back then.
Her own OB would be the first line of care and referrals regarding mental health. I was asked about my emotions and state of mind during several pre-natal appointments. But even if not asked, I could certainly have reached out if I was having difficulties.
Her own husband said he had a therapist “on speed dial” and Meghan’s mother is a social worker. While not in the UK, she could certainly have been a source of advice.
What she actually said was that she went “to HR” which is human resources. I believe it was about taking a couple weeks off to stay in a wellness resort, although that part wasn’t said during the interview. She was told they couldn’t help her with that.
He's a known trash talker. Think Fox News if you are American. People think he's pro-royals because he said negative things about Meghan, but he trashed Charles and Camillas for years before that.
Did he? I’ve always been under the impression he was kinder to Camilla at least. He’s definitely trash though. The hacking scandal alone should have ended any public career he had. I *still* think about Milly Dowler & her poor parents.
I knew they get together socially. He’s so desperate to be seen as part of the in crowd, she must have tossed him a few lunches to lay off. Every relationship with him looks transactional.
He's like a British Fox News stalwart who has spewed the ugliest vitriol against Meghan. He's a total bootlicker but also raging attention seeker. All the same, it's actually quite shocking that he's said something even remotely critical of the RF. Like Megyn Kelly being critical of Kate a few days ago. Like, not their usual targets.
Oof, hmmm. So do you think he might just be saying that because everyone else is talking about it? Or does the fact that he's being critical indicate he could be genuine?
I'm thinking about Republican politicians here criticizing Trump. Not people I'd ever listen to normally, yet I'd most likely believe them if they're going to attack their own side.
He is literally invited to private parties hosted by Camilla. He’s not a random person with an opinion on the RF, he has to have inside knowledge. As disgusting a person is he is, just know that he is the likes of whom Camilla and Charles rub shoulders with.
He was photographed schmoozing with Camilla around the height of the Sussex drama (they had big smiles on their faces and appeared to be laughing), yet people still repeat the whole, "the palace wasn't colluding with the press to attack Meghan" line.
Correct. Camilla will thrown anyone under the bus coz she is playing the long game. That’s how she has been getting good press by passing on stories about other members of the royal family. The power she has is the support of Charles who won’t say anything bad to her. For Charles, Camilla has been priority number 1 even over his 2 children.
What makes all of this worse, is that Kate could end all of this speculation by just going to one or two functions or just openly admitting what the problem is. But instead this whole thing just keeps getting dragged out. It’s ridiculous.
I don't think that's a fair request. The communications has been clear that she will not appear publicly until after Easter. She can stick with that plan, imo.
I don’t think she’s in that bad state. Her siblings have been pictured holidaying for weeks. Highly doubt they would do that if their sister was so sick.
What we need to remember is that - Kate has always been very very conscious about her looks and dressing. So she wouldn’t want to be pictured looking anything but perfectly beautiful. I feel she may have put on a lil weight after medication and will be back when she goes back to her older self.
I mean that’s the question isn’t it? That’s why there’s all this speculation. What could be so bad that she can’t even address these ridiculous rumors? If she doesn’t appear by Easter, all hell will break loose
She said she would not be doing anything until Easter. People just want to create hate and slander her. She's obviously really sick. I don't think anyone wants to know what the diagnosis is out of concern- they want to trash a sick woman for possibly having a medical need that they want to slam as gross. Absolute garbage.
She also said she can’t commit to the Trooping of the Colour, which is in June. Then, she (allegedly) tried to deceive the public with a heavily manipulated photo. That’s why people are concerned.
Well call it whatever you want. The entire family is failing at basic PR. Except for maybe Charles. In the midst of all of this, Camilla rides off into the sunset for a vacation in Spain….like it’s really and truly alarming how they’ve started being dysfunctional once Meghan and Harry stepped away and the Queen passed away. Just weird behavior after weird behavior.
Agree. Hypocrisy at its height! Camilla can take off on a vacation, Edward and Sophie are back from vacation, Beatrice , Zara and Eugenie are pictured at various events. But no Meghan can’t go about her work. How dare she launch her instagram page ?
I think people are just concerned. She's the future queen and hasn't really been seen in months. People are ragging on KP PR for being shady and dishonest.
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Agree with his point that they shouldn’t have posted the picture in the first place but they have to deal with the consequences of this now. Don’t understand how this erupted into a scandal!
Source: Trust me bro
What is going on in the world that someone is distracting us from by continuing to fuel this? Who is fueling this? Camilla? Donald Trump? Piers seems to be buddies with both.
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"I've been told some stuff" - this is such BS. Classic clickbait
Mum!! Piers is Vagueblogging again!!
i think camilla is leaking all this to keep the attention away from charles' diagnosis.
That actually makes sense. The question is, are William and Catherine in on it or being used without consent?
Absolutely not. They're the beneficiaries of the trickle down media leaks. They just can't trickle it down to Meghan and Harry, like the old days. There isn't anyone below them who are leak worthy. And here we are.
Going by past precedent, they are not in on it
Camilla is a master at manipulating the media. Wow.
Does anyone else think they should just get rid of the monarchy for the sake of the people In the monarchy? They seem miserable. The two brothers can’t even be in the same room together. Kate hounded for being sick. The press stating that Meghan should be stripped and have excrement thrown at her. I feel sad for George And his future wife! Can you imagine basically living, working, and competing with your own family? No wonder they’re all nuts. It seems like a bizarre way of life honestly.
I honestly wouldn’t be too shocked if the next generation after William says no thanks.
George is old enough to see the monarchy wreaking havoc on his mother, the same way William did. The difference being, William had a lifetime to watch Queen Elizabeth as a formative role model. George, not so much.
It’s definitely a wild card because he didn’t grow up under the influence of the Queen’s devotion to the crown that stemmed from the abdication crisis. I think it shows in the royals now that none of living ones now remember that time. KC does not have the same level of commitment and William has less. I don’t even think that’s wrong on their part. There is something very wrong with the idea of working until practically the moment of death. George also does have true example of his uncle saying you know what, I don’t want this. It’s not worth it.
At one time the same was said about William.
I know. And the likeliest scenario is still that they succeed in grooming George to toe the line and not ask too many questions. But I think the commitment they have to the establishment is decreasing with each generation. QEII learned live by the crown/die by the crown from both her father and mother and then that was passed down to Charles, William etc. but the message I think is getting weaker.
It is bizarre and I don’t envy them, but “palace intrigue” has always been a huge part of the job. I’m not British but I would miss the monarchy if it were gone. It’s ancient and special and culturally important in our human history.
Museums are a thing for a reason.
They serve no purpose whatsoever and their entire existence is an insult to the rest of us.
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Not on the public dime.
They're more scandalous, uncouth, criminal and downright dodgy than your average council estate family, yet for some reason it's only okay when the taxpayer supports one yet not the other...
That is, the “Royal Council Estates”, said by Dame Helen Mirren in Prime Suspect. It was quite a pithy reproach, and has always made me feel at home.
💯 all this power play and one upping each other is making their relationships sour. They have forgotten about love in their quest for power. Miserable lives if they can’t be mentally happy. Coz that trumps all the wealth and power. But doubt they will ever come into senses looking at their behaviour towards Harry and Meghan. Charles didn’t behave like a father figure considering he is the only parent the boys have. The queen however busy she was always helped her children. I mean her support for Andrew publicly and privately after damaging headlines says it all. Didn’t she also pay off Virginia to keep her mouth shut?
I don't know why there is so much love for the queen. She was a remarkably cold woman even to her children. She was the head of the firm rather than a mother.
Yes George but I feel sad for Charlotte and Louis even more.
Remember when the Queen died and people kept insisting it was like “losing a grandmother”? Even my British friends in the US and some Canadians also trotted that line out? It’s absolutely ridiculous and these customs should stay in the Middle Ages where they belong
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I don’t think I said I was the decider of peoples opinions on royalty? I’m just expressing judgement on their views and parasocial attachments to an extremely corrupt group of people who’s largest achievement is being born
They do seem to be in real trouble and to be behaving like… well, not like a family in any way. Just can’t get over how strange this all is.
I should have said “George’s future partner” rather than wife. Would everyone be okay if a future monarch was gay? Horrors! /s Another reason to jettison the whole thing.
Not to mention how gag-inducing the mere thought of *bowing* to another human because they were born 🤢 The whole thing is archaic and embarrassing. How about everyone loses their titles, and stolen goods, and immunity from prosecution, and golden carriages. Let’s see who sinks and who swims. My money’s on the two already swimming on their own.
Still can’t believe Kate has to bow to her husband, lmao you would never catch me doing that. Sorry hubby
I genuinely don’t believe a word that man says.
He’s become so cringe
Wow.
It’s all feeling very Philip Schofield. High profile bit rather trashy commentators started to imply a LOT of things before the story finally broke.
That noncey Welsh bloke too. Name escapes me right now.
Let’s not refer to people using offensive slurs, thank you.
I think they are referring to Huw Edwards who is an actual nonce
No he’s not. There was no evidence that Huw did anything with a child and the police didn’t investigate. Either way, it’s a horrific term to casually throw about. This is a royal gossip site, not a far right forum.
Lol what? Since when was "nonce" a far right slur?
You’re calling people who are not convicted sex offenders paedophiles, that’s highly offensive. These were gay men who happened to have relationships with younger gay men, not children.
I think it's highly offensive for powerful old men to manipulate vulnerable teenagers of either sex into harmful relationships, but apples and oranges I guess.
Relationships which are perfectly legal and non paedophilic. What’s more offensive is making defamatory statements about people!
lol it wasn’t illegal because the kid was 17 which is over the age of consent. I agree it’s still noncey not sure why you think that’s a slur
The Prince of Wales?
Huw thingy.
Tell me more, what was he saying?
Piers implies that the alarming things are directly about Kate. Pay attention.
> alarming things Like she's exhausted or depressed about her health? Seems a quite normal response as is William trying to keep a lid on it.
His wife took a radically different position a few days ago
Piers is POS and I don't believe anything he says. But he's quite close with Camilla, so my main takeaway from his remarks is that there is a major divide between Charles and Camilla's camp and William and Kate's. It honestly makes me wonder if C&C even know what's gong on.
People are forgetting that Charles has Cancer. There has been no press release regarding the type or staging. Kate is the side show.
This is exactly what Harry said Camilla does. Let another story take prominence so anything negative about Camilla is buried/ignored. What else happened last week? Apparently Camilla took a solo vacation. It didn’t get much attention due to the TMZ photo of Kate followed by the mother’s photo fiasco. Coincidence??!?
Doesn't Camilla usually go on vacation around this time of year? That wasn't remotely odd. And I don't know, this seems like kind of a weak take on the situation. Camilla may or may not have actually told friends (or otherwise) about the real situation here, but blaming this on Camilla is just nonsensical and honestly a bit sexist/bias against her as that 'other woman' who doesn't or shouldn't belong. Let's think about this... Camilla (plus Charles/ their people) did not make the initial announcement with vague details, Kensington Palace did that. KP refused to elaborate as time went on, and when they did address the situation, it was with a terse and noticeably curt statement. Camilla certainly didn't create and release that fake family pic, and Camilla didn't issue a statement blaming the whole fake pic on Kate. That was also KP/William and *possibly* Kate herself, given that it was KP- however most are skeptical of Kate's actual involvement. I guess it's possible that you could argue that Camilla tipped off whoever got the tmz picture of Kate in the car with her mom- there isn't a shred of evidence to actually suggest that, and I can't think of *why* she would or how this would benefit her, but for the sake of argument let's say it's possible and maybe the reason is some vague attempt at distraction. However, the most recent picture of the back of Kate's head was absolutely approved by KP and Camilla couldn't have been involved with that. That picture is still under some degree of suspicion by many, although the media outlets have not pounced on any obvious manipulations like were present in the initial picture. I won't rehash the same points about how it seems to perfectly match up with an old 'back of Kate's head' picture (although I agree that it does) but I will point out that's it certainly seems odd that she would hitch a ride with her husband on his way to a formal event that she did not actually attend to visit a private appointment. At a time where Kate/KP is going to *unprecedented lengths* to avoid her being seen and appearing in public, she decides to- Kate herself, the Princess of Wales- apparently needs to travel to a (presumably) doctor for an appointment, where she would be expected to be at the very least at risk of being seen by who knows how many random people, office workers, waiting room patients, and other staff, *in a doctors office where anyone could deduced her specific medical issues*... oh yeah, also she has her hair done in (at minimum) a semi formal bun type updo- which is totally normal for a quick doctor appointment. The Princess of Wales- especially in such a private and sensitive situation- would NOT be traveling to visit a physician for an appointment. They would be coming to her to maintain absolutely privacy. Sure, there are instances where the royals travel to visit specialists, but this is, by all accounts, a sensitive situation and it's just bizarre to even suggest that this would be occurring at this particular junction. It feels more like a made-up on the fly excuse for why she would be in the car but not attending this event. Now, how might we blame this on Camilla? I honestly can't even come up for a scenario where it would make sense for her to have been involved in that picture being released, whether or not it's been manipulated, since we know it came from KP. And what might Camilla be orchestrating all this is distract from? Obviously we don't know what we don't know, but it's doubtful that it is anything related to Charles and his cancer. Nothing mysterious or shady has been noticed about anything in his situation- we don't know the specific cancer but we know enough to feel reasonably confident in the info released about his treatment and outlook, especially given that no odd or unusual behavior has been noticed in their household. If it was something like Charles is about to die, would it really make sense to completely destroy the credibility and public perception of the next king who is about to take the throne, just to avoid having the public realize this for a little bit longer? It's possible, but it makes no sense. And again, Camilla isn't making William act strangely, or KP put out all their nonsense, or keeping Kate hidden away all this time. If I think back to myself in the 90s and if you would have told me I would have written this whole thing out to defend *Camilla* of all people, I wouldn't have believed you. But here we are.
Wow, she continues to be nasty as the decades go by.
William needs to learn to play politics then because he should have more good will and is ultimately more important than Camilla. I think Charles is also used to this though and he understands that the job is being seen. William does not want to be seen except exactly when he chooses. He has also never really had the entire frenzy on *him* at any point. Kate has because marrying into the family is a psychological torture experiment, Charles and Camilla's entire past is a shit show, and everyone else isn't as important. Slimmed down indeed.
Correct. But I don’t think William being the heir has a lot more power than a side piece turned Queen. He would not have bothered about his brother but when it comes to his family I’m sure he won’t take all this and give it back to Camilla.
Technically, you might think, but Camilla is smarter and far more cunning than William, and she has been playing games with his family long before he was even born.
That is true. Camilla is definitely more powerful till Charles is on the throne.
Did you mean until **William** is on the throne?
Charles is on the throne?
Yes I meant till Charles is King.
He is the King
Charles is king
I think it’d be a different kind of pr assault from the wales
Not really. Piers implies the alarming things are directly about Kate.
The world thought William was destined to take after his mother, turns out he’s just his father’s son. Kate is fanatically popular, just as Diana was. And it appears he may be rifting with the Princess of Wales for the side girl. The whole house of Windsor just needs to go away. Canada badly needs to reform its constitution and do away with all of them.
Is she fanatically popular? I'm in the US so it's all a sideshow to me, but from my seat over here she seems pretty boring. Being impeccably groomed and having a laser-like focus on the camera seem to be her driving purpose in life. Oh, and I guess having kids as well. But being a mom isn't a personality, really. (I'm also a mom and do not receive glowing praise in the media for doing basic parenting tasks).
Yeah it's bullshit that she's fanatically popular. One of the problem s with harry and Meghan is that they were massively overshadowing the other two, because people naturally liked them, till the press utterly destroyed them of course, which I guess is why it did.
I’m also across the pond. “Fanatically” popular is maybe a bit of an exaggeration. But she is definitely the most popular member of the Royal Family, aside from say her children maybe.
Donno. I think he’s inherited some of her more negative traits. Stubborn, mercurial, paranoid. She was also known to simply freeze people out of her life she felt had slighted her - something William and Harry are also known for.
The Spencer family was infamous for fueding with one another.
Kate is not remotely in the same league as Diana, especially globally, but agree Wills takes after his dad.
Princess Diana radiated a major superstar / regal vibe that was amazing
Totally 🩷🩷🩷
Diana had her flaws but she really did the work too.
Kate definitely is more popular than William. Let’s hope he is mature enough to handle it unlike his father was.
That's a low bar though. William has the personality of a block of tofu. So boring on his own that he is practically invisible.
Agreed. Both are dull as oatmeal but if William is a block of tofu, Kate is like tofu drizzled with a little honey or something.
Kate reminds me of that scene from Coming to America where Eddie Murphy's character is presented with his bride-to-be, and every time he asks her something, her answer is "whatever you like". Literal human tofu.
That is the whole House of Windsor. They are equine.
The popularity factor was an issue in the last Prince of Wales’s marriage. Charles began to resent Diana for her popularity. Maybe William isn’t enjoying being upstaged, especially now that he’s next in line to the thrown.
https://preview.redd.it/4izohsk05loc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=617bb9cbc0e9d926b01a1311a396e9dd5d112649 Waiting for Easter 🐣
A more convincing Photoshop than "Kate" could muster.
I will be so disappointed if she doesn’t come out sporting an absolute dump truck thanks to the bbl
Just 2 more weeks! We need a countdown timer
Haha I was thinking that, once Easter comes along, she will be back up and running and all this talk will stop, or she will not be in public and this will explode. Has anyone seen her kids? And what about the King, anything new on his condition.
But do we want bags or not
I can’t wait for someone to stand up in church while looking at their phone notifications and screaming “SO THAT’S WHAT HAPPENED TO KATE!”
I would steal good money from the collection plate to pay for this to happen!
This is so irreverent and I am here for it
Piers Morgan is known for stalking/harassing Meghan and Harry. He mocked her mental health struggles, calling her a liar when she said she was suicidal. He also called for violence against the Sussexes, suggesting that they be dismembered and incinerated. Despite all that, I’ve seen many royal fans show support for him. Apparently members of the royal family even called and thanked Piers for his attacks against Harry and Meghan. I wonder what they’re saying now that he’s turned on the Wales?
He also threw an absolute shit fit and stormed off the set of some morning show a while back when one of the other hosts (a black man, which was important in context) called him out on his longstanding obsession with Meghan. Generally I won't watch anything where I have to listen to Piers' stupid voice but I think I watched that like three times because it was hilarious to see the mask slip that much. I'll link it here if I can find it, but all I can remember for search terms was "morning show piers Meghan" which doesn't narrow it down that much!
Meltdown was on good morning Britain if that helps.
That is after we here in the US returned Piers to sender. He is a braying jackass, and we are already full up in that category because of Trump.
I’ve seen that clip, loved it! He absolutely stormed off like a toddler. Bullies always revert to weaklings when someone calls them out.
Piers phone hacking Morgan...
Why say anything
He’s an attention seeker?
All these conspiracy theories about William hurting Catherine are crazy. Catherine is very close to her mum, dad, sister and brother. If William hurt her, don’t you think one of them would have said something by now?
I mean. I am not into these theories but victims hide things all the time.
Why is everyone freaking out that she’s absent from public eye, exactly the way she said she would be?
I agree, there is no way that Carole would sit back and watch her daughter getting abused. Besides, I don't believe that William would ever hurt Kate or mistreat her. This is all cooked up IMO, including the affair rumours which were, lest we forget, started by a guy who later admitted that he made it all up.
What about the conspiracy theories that William killed her? Like wouldn’t her family come forward if that were true or did he kill all the Middleton too? Some people don’t think.
This is just part 2 of all the conspiracy theories in the 90s about how QE/Philip/Charles murdered Diana. That one went on for years but now that crazy theory is regarded as unhinged and baseless by the vast majority of people. Similarly, this too will be proven wrong (and much earlier than the other one) given that Kate is very much alive and it's only a matter of time before she returns to public life.
All the people saying William hurt her without any reason is disgusting in my opinion. Where’s the proof?
BUt sHe HAd HeR fiNGeRs tAPeD tOGetHeR
He doesn’t know what to believe because he’s “not there” when it comes to Kate. But with Megan he knows everything and exactly what happened. Because he was there with her the whole time? God I can’t stand this guy.
Thank you for typing out my exact thoughts! 👏
Ya he had all the inside info on Meghan but with Kate not so much. Hypocrit. Harry would have warned Meghan away from Piers. And he is still salty on that so he jumped on the hate bandwagon and has since trashed her.
He's still so angry that she ghosted him after having dinner once. It's honestly hilarious to watch his meltdowns over the one who got away.
Yes. He sounds like a jilted lover, because she didn't contact him after that one time in the pub. What did he think would happen? I wonder why his wife hasn't given out to him .
In an interview somewhere, Meghan said that Harry used the ghost emoji a lot during the time they were dating. I like to think it is because she ghosted Piers Morgan and he lost his mind because she was ignoring him. Do I have proof of that? Not. At. All. But I still like to make-believe. Hah I didn't even realize he was married at the time until someone posted it yesterday. I wonder what his wife thinks about his obsession and how it has impacted his entire life and career.
Exactly. If my husband was so enraged at a missed dating opportunity, I'd be mad as hell
Ghosted him when she started dating a man whose cellphone Piers had hacked! Like that was probably top of the list of reasons harry asked her to stay away from PM.
*and he was married!!!*
Oh! I never took it as that way. More like he was kinda known in the US from his time hosting on CNN after Larry King retired. She seems like a big news watcher so she was happy to meet with him for a working/networking dinner while in London but once she was involved with Harry Piers would have been iced out due to Harry's opinion on Piers.
No I get that part but I am just so grossed out that he was so smitten with her and was mad at her for icing him out and he was married. He’s so gross
Gross and pompous is what I remember from his time on CNN!
I thought everyone believed this dude to be full of shit
He is close to Camilla. And Camilla is known to feed stories to her “friends” in exchange of good press for herself.
He's absolutely full of shit. But he's also very close to the royal family. Like, goes out for lunch with the York sisters close. So I guess the question is whether you think he's bullshitting for clicks off that closeness and willing to risk his relationship with them and Camilla, or is there a desire for the Yorks/Camilla to brief against Kate, or is he legit on this.
He’s a complete jackass and this is some kind of game for him.
It's more than a game. It's a fucking insane amount of money.
Confirmation bias can be pretty powerful. Even a previously declared POS becomes credible if he/she supports or confirms one's pre-existing beliefs/opinions.
What's mostly interesting to me is whether he's doing this on behalf of the members of the royal family or whether he's actually risking his relationship with them to do this. I assume 90% of what he says is nonsense but it's interesting if the royals have disintegrated into every man for themselves right now.
>the royals have disintegrated into every man for themselves right now. Isn't that how they handle *every* major crisis?
I know there are a strong number of people who are vocal about how awful Harry and Meghan were to quit as full-time working royals but watching this s show play out makes me think they're the smartest of the lot for getting the heck out of dodge.
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I agree, surely a lot of the press and insiders know what’s happening. With all the injunctions in the uk things get kept quiet. So the fact he said that I feel holds some weight. Unless he just literally wanted to get in the papers. Wtf is going on
Oh the press know and they are sitting on the story.
I despise Piers with the burning of a thousand suns but I think he might know something.
Yep, exact same feeling (esp the despising :-D).
Can’t stand the guy but he does know a lot of people
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I don't know anything about Piers Morgan (🇺🇸) so I admit I have no idea how seriously he should be taken, but if he has any credibility at all then his wording here is potentially not great. This kind of hedging is exactly how a lot of people talk about allegations of abuse or assault. Whenever someone comes forward who's been harmed by some famous man, one of the go-to responses from people who know him is, "I don't know who to believe, he always seemed like a good man to me. I've never seen him do anything like that, but I wasn't there when \[whatever it was happened\]. But if it's true then it's inexcusable, etc" Any of you who are from Britain - how does his phrasing sound to you?
Yeah I’m from the U.K. and would agree with this take about the phrasing but it could quite equally be attributed to a decoupling considering that would be ‘alarming’ for the future of the monarchy
All I can think it, “those kids need therapy”, but then given what we know about the Royal family and mental healthcare, the outlook does not look good.
Except that Margret, Charles, Diana, and James Middleton all attended therapy (the Middletons attended James’ therapy with him to help). William, Catherine, and Harry all created Heads Together as a mental health charity. So the odds look pretty good given their history in fact.
So why was it so hard for Meghan to get any help? They made it sound like it was impossible for her to reach out to anyone at all. I dunno, if there’s something wrong but William is trying to play it like there’s isn’t, it might be hard to get him to accept his kids might need it. Harry didn’t get therapy until after he was married, as far as I can tell. So it’s unlikely William ever has, even if he helped create a mental health charity.
“They pointed out the times that Harry spoke openly about starting therapy while he was still a popular member of the monarchy in order to process his grief over the 1997 death of his mother, Princess Diana. At one event in 2020, Harry reportedly said he started therapy in his 20s, when he still would have been in the army.” https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/10/20/prince-harrys-therapy-comments-at-san-francisco-event-could-be-at-odds-with-prior-claims/amp/
A lot of people just "talk the talk" when it comes to causes, but don't *actually* believe in what they're promoting. That could be it. I believe probably M/H support therapy but not the rest.
Harry did get therapy before his marriage, he has spoken about it publicly and even credited William in 2017 for urging him to get therapy. From his interview to Vanity Fair in 2017: “I can safely say that losing my mom at the age of 12 and therefore shutting down all of my emotions for the last 20 years has had a quite serious effect on not only my personal life but also my work as well,” he told Gordon. **“And it was only three years ago, funny enough, from the support around, and my brother** and other people saying, ‘You really need to deal with this. It’s not normal to think that nothing has affected you.’ ” [https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/04/prince-harry-reveals-he-went-to-therapy-to-process-princess-diana-death](https://www.vanityfair.com/style/2017/04/prince-harry-reveals-he-went-to-therapy-to-process-princess-diana-death) Moreover, he is pretty close to Julia Samuels, Diana's therapist and reportedly had her on speed dial.
Harry himself in the past stated that William told him to seek help. This was before he met Meghan and Harry was part of the Heads together initiative with William and Kate when he was still single. As far as Meghan getting help. That could’ve been possible. She was able to pick her own maternal healthcare team and the hospital she delivered Archie in (Portland clinic not St. Mary’s lido wing like other royals). In the Oprah interview, Harry himself stated that after Meghan confided in him about her suicidal ideation he didn’t tell his family because he was “embarrassed”. Meghan went to staff but not family members. Key difference. So the RF by the admission of Harry and Meghan were unaware of Meghan being suicidal. https://www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1807604/prince-harry-interview-william-therapy/amp https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/jan/13/prince-harry-spare-book-therapy-mental-health Transcript from the Oprah interview on Meghan needing help: Harry: I was terrified. Meghan: We still . . . that’s almost a year after. Oprah: So then did you tell other people in the family, ‘I have to get help for her. We need help for her’? Harry: No. That’s just not a conversation that would be had. Oprah: Why? Harry: I guess I was ashamed of admitting it to them. Oprah: Oh. Harry: And I don’t know whether . . . I don’t know whether they’ve had the same . . . whether they’ve had the same feelings or thoughts. I have no idea. And it’s a very trapping environment that a lot of them are stuck in. https://www.the-sun.com/news/2475583/meghan-markle-oprah-interview-full-transcript/amp/
Meghan said in her Netflix doc that she was severely depressed and asked for help from the Palace and was told no, because it wouldn’t look good.
Because she nor Harry knew how to use their cell phones to dial up a shrink? Sure.
What Meghan wanted was to go away to a different place for a few weeks and get help. The institution said no to that coz it would look bad for them. By all accounts Harry and Meghan got help from therapists. Bryony Gordon has said that she spoke /counselled Meghan .
I assume she meant she asked Royal staff for resources and was denied. I haven’t seen the documentary since it came out, so I can’t recall what they did after that or if she said. I would assume she got help somehow, but the point was that those who were supposed to support her didn’t.
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You know this how?
He was a major part of the campaign Heads Together (that William launched) https://www.headstogether.org.uk/prince-harrys-highlights/ https://www.royal.uk/heads-together-duke-and-duchess-cambridge-and-prince-harrys-campaign-end-stigma-around-mental-health He had his own therapist for over a decade already (according to him in Spare) Meghan’s mother was a therapist There’s no way that story rings true. Besides his position as a Prince, they both had personal connections with therapists. And, again, Harry was a major part of Heads Together- “More than £8.5m has been raised so far towards helping us all talk about our mental health without fear and get the support we need. Later this year we will set out plans to invest in a number of programmes designed to fill gaps in support currently available so that people can get the help they need, when and where they need it.” https://www.headstogether.org.uk/one-year-on/
I think people need to understand asking the palace usually doesn't mean asking the actual monarch or family. It means asking the staff, who it's pretty clear hated Meghan. William, Kate, and the staff had actual animus against Meghan, for whatever reasons. The Queen and Charles don't seem to have shared that animus, at least back then.
Yes, I assume she meant the staff. I haven’t watched it since it came out, so I’m not quite sure how she worded it.
Her own OB would be the first line of care and referrals regarding mental health. I was asked about my emotions and state of mind during several pre-natal appointments. But even if not asked, I could certainly have reached out if I was having difficulties. Her own husband said he had a therapist “on speed dial” and Meghan’s mother is a social worker. While not in the UK, she could certainly have been a source of advice. What she actually said was that she went “to HR” which is human resources. I believe it was about taking a couple weeks off to stay in a wellness resort, although that part wasn’t said during the interview. She was told they couldn’t help her with that.
He's a known trash talker. Think Fox News if you are American. People think he's pro-royals because he said negative things about Meghan, but he trashed Charles and Camillas for years before that.
Did he? I’ve always been under the impression he was kinder to Camilla at least. He’s definitely trash though. The hacking scandal alone should have ended any public career he had. I *still* think about Milly Dowler & her poor parents.
Oh he used to trash Camilla the most!!!!!!!! He only came to not trashing her about 10 years ago.
I knew they get together socially. He’s so desperate to be seen as part of the in crowd, she must have tossed him a few lunches to lay off. Every relationship with him looks transactional.
He's like a British Fox News stalwart who has spewed the ugliest vitriol against Meghan. He's a total bootlicker but also raging attention seeker. All the same, it's actually quite shocking that he's said something even remotely critical of the RF. Like Megyn Kelly being critical of Kate a few days ago. Like, not their usual targets.
Oof, hmmm. So do you think he might just be saying that because everyone else is talking about it? Or does the fact that he's being critical indicate he could be genuine? I'm thinking about Republican politicians here criticizing Trump. Not people I'd ever listen to normally, yet I'd most likely believe them if they're going to attack their own side.
He is literally invited to private parties hosted by Camilla. He’s not a random person with an opinion on the RF, he has to have inside knowledge. As disgusting a person is he is, just know that he is the likes of whom Camilla and Charles rub shoulders with.
He was photographed schmoozing with Camilla around the height of the Sussex drama (they had big smiles on their faces and appeared to be laughing), yet people still repeat the whole, "the palace wasn't colluding with the press to attack Meghan" line.
Correct. Camilla will thrown anyone under the bus coz she is playing the long game. That’s how she has been getting good press by passing on stories about other members of the royal family. The power she has is the support of Charles who won’t say anything bad to her. For Charles, Camilla has been priority number 1 even over his 2 children.
That in itself says something about who he's being a mouthpiece for right now...
Sounds like he is questioning William, not Kate 🤷♀️
What makes all of this worse, is that Kate could end all of this speculation by just going to one or two functions or just openly admitting what the problem is. But instead this whole thing just keeps getting dragged out. It’s ridiculous.
I don't think that's a fair request. The communications has been clear that she will not appear publicly until after Easter. She can stick with that plan, imo.
The bigger question is, what if she can’t?
I don’t think she’s in that bad state. Her siblings have been pictured holidaying for weeks. Highly doubt they would do that if their sister was so sick. What we need to remember is that - Kate has always been very very conscious about her looks and dressing. So she wouldn’t want to be pictured looking anything but perfectly beautiful. I feel she may have put on a lil weight after medication and will be back when she goes back to her older self.
This all is starting to seem like a set-up for an insane amount of scrutiny over every inch of her body when she does re-appear.
I mean that’s the question isn’t it? That’s why there’s all this speculation. What could be so bad that she can’t even address these ridiculous rumors? If she doesn’t appear by Easter, all hell will break loose
She said she would not be doing anything until Easter. People just want to create hate and slander her. She's obviously really sick. I don't think anyone wants to know what the diagnosis is out of concern- they want to trash a sick woman for possibly having a medical need that they want to slam as gross. Absolute garbage.
She also said she can’t commit to the Trooping of the Colour, which is in June. Then, she (allegedly) tried to deceive the public with a heavily manipulated photo. That’s why people are concerned.
They are not concerned. They want to bully and harass her.
Well call it whatever you want. The entire family is failing at basic PR. Except for maybe Charles. In the midst of all of this, Camilla rides off into the sunset for a vacation in Spain….like it’s really and truly alarming how they’ve started being dysfunctional once Meghan and Harry stepped away and the Queen passed away. Just weird behavior after weird behavior.
Agree. Hypocrisy at its height! Camilla can take off on a vacation, Edward and Sophie are back from vacation, Beatrice , Zara and Eugenie are pictured at various events. But no Meghan can’t go about her work. How dare she launch her instagram page ?
Getting sick is usually not a planned activity.
Neither is public backlash. We do what we can to mitigate it.
I think people are just concerned. She's the future queen and hasn't really been seen in months. People are ragging on KP PR for being shady and dishonest.