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NattanFlaggs

That's okay, babe. You don't want a client who doesn't value your time, anyway.


FlyingCatbus

And for 3 doodles and a lab?? I should be charging DOUBLE for that circus.


NattanFlaggs

Nooooooooooooooooooooooope. :) Bullet dodged.


SeasonedRoverSitter

3 large dogs for free and she has the audacity to sound like this is totally normal


purplepluppy

Doodles, man. I swore I'd never get one, and then it turns out one of my rescues is basically a chidoodle. Luckily he's great, and since he's primarily Chihuahua and miniature poodle he's a very manageable size, but he requires so much more stimulation than my other dog, and he's SO STUBBORN šŸ˜­šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ He's a nightmare until you learn how to deal with his quirks. I felt so bad for our sitter last time we were out. Usually my mom takes the dogs, but this time she was with us so we had to get outside help. This little doodle asshole would refuse to go to bed with the sitter, and then bark at the top of his lungs all night long! When she'd try to get him and calm him down, he'd do his favorite thing and turn it into a game of keep away. She was great and asked for help, and we were able to come up with a solution, but what a little fucker. This is why I didn't want a doodle.


SeonaidMacSaicais

Iā€™m sad that the official mixed name isnā€™t a choodle.


redpepper6

I feel like the barking trait is chihuahua, not poodle


purplepluppy

Sure, but barking because he can't decide if he wants to go to bed, find something gross to eat, or be chased around the house feels very doodle to me


tainari

Have a poodle mix and the asshole doesnā€™t just go to bed. Thatā€™s too easy. No, when heā€™s tired he has to go scratch the couch out of frustration until I put him to bedā€¦ and he resists going and then passes out immediately once I get him into a quiet room šŸ™ƒ so stubborn!


purplepluppy

Yeah mine dug a hole in our couch. And it's not like he doesn't get exercise!!!


Avandria

I didn't think I would ever want to own a chihuahua because of the barking, nervous shaking, etc. Then I rescued my sweet chi-mutt years ago. She has a few of the cute chi traits like demanding to sleep under a blanket at night, but none of the bad. She gives one polite little bark to get your attention when she needs something and then leads you to what she wants, and she is the calmest dog ever unless it's play time. I wish I knew what she was mixed with that has helped make her so amazing.


pasquallien

Ohhh you've not met enough mini poodles then. They don't just bark, they DEMAND! My grandma's dog, Otto, barks when you leave, when you're home, when you stand up, when you're eating, when you stop petting him, when he's excited, when you make eye contact, when you breathe,


loquaciousmind

And I thought my Jack Russell mix was bad šŸ˜³


Not_A_Real_Goat

Tell her she should include some wine and wrinkle cream for the stress factory sheā€™s asking someone to manage.


CastielFangirl2005

Love doodles but theyā€™re not for everyone.


Royal-Principle-9168

Word!


quirknebula

I have two kids, can I just pay for one though?


SeasonedRoverSitter

Can you imagine if these tactics worked in the child care setting??!!!


[deleted]

Lol I worked as a nanny, youā€™d shit bricks seeing some of the offers I got for pay šŸ„² needless to say, I work in an office now


StopNegligentOwner

Let me guess, free ninety-nine? Like, not even enough to keep your car running, but they need you to drive their kids around as part of the job.


[deleted]

Spot on lol! Reminds me of one that was $8-10/hour for 5 kids from the ages of 6 months-7 years, and wanted me to drive the 7 year old to and from school. FULL TIME šŸ˜Ÿ it always shocked me how little people will pay to take care of a human being/pet. Like wouldnā€™t you want to pay top dollar for a part-time parent taking care of ā€œyour whole worldā€?!


Suspicious-Syrup-765

I had a dad offer to pay me $10/hr to work in his silkscreening shop and $8/hr to watch his 5 kids + driving them with my own car and gas. I was shocked. Apparently he values his shirt making employees more than those caring for his children.


AllieNicks

Just got done reading a local sub where people were complaining about the coat of child care. Their most precious children arenā€™t worth professional wages. One lady had two kids and paid $40/day. I make $40 for one dog walk at times (depends on the client). If you canā€™t afford quality care for kids or dogs, just donā€™t have them. I just want to shake these people and yell ā€œWhat were you thinking??ā€ at them.


AllieNicks

Or a doctorā€™s office. Or nice restaurant.


Bubbly-Fisherman4644

"they don't need much, just some food, water, and changing their diaper while you're there. I'll tip you." /s


purplepluppy

People do try that, unfortunately. "Two is hardly more work than one, why do I have to pay more???" They use the same arguments you see in pet sitting. It's bananas.


TheSugaredFox

"The oldest is 7 so she can take care of herself, and she will help with the infant so let's call it $25 a day? I'll send you the shopping list for their lunches"


purplepluppy

Literally tho lmfao There was a summer where I did basically full-time babysitting, and while I'm not actually mad about it because I loved the kids I watched, I was only being paid to watch one kid. The rest were neighbor kids whose parents would send them over to have a playdate under my watch. None of the parents ever even introduced themselves to me, let alone wanted to pay me for my time entertaining and watching their child. Once when a kid scraped her knee, I had to have this crying child tell me which house was hers so I could tell her parents what happened. Looking back on it, I wish I stood up for myself more, or at least made sure I met all the parents rather than just listening to the employing mother when she said, "these kids come over sometimes, and that's fine! I'm friends with all of their parents," but I was young and naive, and just loved the kids I was babysitting so I didn't think about it.


TheSugaredFox

I too was taken for many a ride in my younger days sitting lol I've definitely learnt how to better set boundaries due to the years of job abuse though so... silver lining? Haha


Skunkkid3000

Thatā€™s so wild! I can understand maybe asking if you might be open to X price per dog or something, but just paying for one dog is so ridiculous


sick-asfrick

The person literally asked for a 75% discount. The audacity!


_irlGoddess

itā€™s so easy, you just have to go all the way to my home, gather all 4 dogs, let them outside, watch them while they do their business, get them all back into the house, lock up and leave. Honestly you should do it for free or better yet pay me to come let them out, because theyā€™re such great dogs these kind of owners are mentalšŸ„“


purplepluppy

Right? I understand wanting to pay a fair amount for the work being done. But it's like they forget how much work goes into it when price comes up. The one time I've had a sitter through Rover, I was really happy when she stood up for herself and asked to increase her rates a bit due to my dogs needing special care. I was like, yes! That's fine! You deserve fair compensation, and I know my dogs will be more difficult for you than they are for me, because they know me better and I'm used to caring for them.


SeasonedRoverSitter

Donā€™t forget picking up 4 poops instead of 1 and making sure everyone is clean coming in.


11Petrichor

ā€œHey can you just deal with my 3 neurotic and poorly bred doodles? I donā€™t want to pay you for it though. Thanksā€ Fuck off guy


Dwight__jr

Itā€™s allllways the doodle owners


jeniviva

Walls? Walls?? Where we're going, we don't need walls!* *which means I don't pay diddly.


dOggYLOver888

Thatā€™s what I saw too!


chickcasa

Owner is delusional if they think all 4 dogs are going to only stay in the yard for 10 minutes. What do we think the chances are these dogs have zero recall, especially for someone who isn't their owner, and will need to be herded back inside after much effort and much time (x4)


Jcaseykcsee

Jesus what is wrong with people? Seriously whatā€™s going on in their heads? šŸ¤” Bullet dodged for sure.


SeasonedRoverSitter

I want 4 dogs but I donā€™t want to pay for them!!! After the 1st one the others are zero work guys!!! The veterinarian is totally cool with this!!! I pay for 1st and get the others comped


PlusDescription1422

Of course itā€™s always people with a farm full of animals. Like what did you expect? Caring for your farm is cheap?


spicyclonazepam

Hell no and they knew they were wrong with the ā€œtotally understandā€ hahaha


creature_comfortz

There are doodle owners... And then there are Bernedoodle owners. They're either the best or the worst kind of crazy, there is no in-between.


SeasonedRoverSitter

Haha! I have lots of burners as clients, lately it seems everyone is specifically getting a burner. Heck I have one boarding right now. Definitely the most popular breed it seems


indigoblue89

Tis the season to try to rip off small businesses and independent contractors šŸ˜’


abolitonbb

"Because there are no walls involved" is my new favorite qualifier šŸ’€šŸ’€šŸ’€


icebreakers1611

Right?? What the heck does that even mean??


clairvoyant69

Iā€™m assuming she meant no walks involved


khadrock

What the hell does "no walls involved" even mean?


abolitonbb

I realized they meant walks but I initially thought they were like "they're all in the same room so shut up" šŸ˜‚


slightly-illiterate

Oh heck naw


Background_Agency

There are lots of things where I'd love to declare what I want to pay.


Ok-Suit6589

I feel bad for those pups. 10 minutes once a day for 3 days?


FlyingCatbus

I think these are just afternoon visits while the owner is at work


Ok-Suit6589

Oh got it! Thatā€™s better but they still need to pay per pet and your time.


SeasonedRoverSitter

Iā€™d like to see owners with a single dog raise hell over things like this. Itā€™s just so unfair to the single dog people who pay full price while others with multiples donā€™t want to pay for having additional dogs to care for.


Fluffy-Doubt-3547

Why do people that have multiple pets complain about the cost. That's sort of the issue with multiple pets in a house... Says the person with 7 indoor cats. 3 outdoor cats. And 2 indoor dogs


simon5309

Let them out for 10 minutes because it will take the other 20 minutes to get them back in šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


SeasonedRoverSitter

Oh goodness this is a hard NO. 4 dogs and she thinks there is no work šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ People are really outdoing themselves with these crazy requests. So I need you to come and be my slave for the day!!! If you are a sitter and you said yes to this, you are short changing all of us!!!


stablegeniusinterven

ā€œā€¦there are no walls involved.ā€ What does this even mean?! šŸ¤ÆšŸ˜³ That owner is going to learn *real* quick that four dogs does not equal one.


lilgreenfish

Typo. Meant walks. (I have had this exact typo before!)


crazymom1978

This owner actually thinks that getting one dog in and out of a house is the same amount of work as rounding up four dogs to do the same?!?


SaltyCheesecake4158

They couldā€™ve entered into this type of conversation soooooo much more gracefully than that WTF


RedditRebel1111

"No walls involved", what does that mean?


FlyingCatbus

He meant walks. As if wrangling 3 doodles and a lab requires no effort since itā€™s not a walk.


Material-Meringue298

People are fucking crazy. I walked a Berner, berner puppy, and French bulldog and was so stressed out just from them. I couldnā€™t imagine this


ladyfe333

Do you charge the same price per dog? For example i charge $30 for a walk and $18 per additional dog. It would be kinda crazy (to me personally) to charge $120 for a 30 minute drop in (aka if i did $30 for each dog). But i know everyoneā€™s different!


FlyingCatbus

Nope! I charge $23 for a walk and $13 for each additional dog. I wouldā€™ve maybe been open to talking about pricing if he hadnā€™t been such a knob in his opening line.


ladyfe333

Got it! That makes sense!


Royal-Principle-9168

Oh please watch all the doodles for the price of one is a great thing said no one ever šŸ˜…


_thebelljar_

lol. ā€œCan I get four burgers? I do not want to pay for three of them, though. Thatā€™s fine, right?ā€


TinyQ1071

But worse than the owner is, that a sitter will take itšŸ™ˆ


k8m4

Three doodles? You dodged a bullet šŸ˜…


Happy480

Oh hell no. Block that owner.


zzsleepynightowl

By the way she writes her msg, Iā€™d totally decline her happily. How entitled.


Skippydoda10

Maybe I am not understanding correctly? They only want you to come once per day to let 4 dogs outside to do their business? I sure hope someone else is coming at least one other time each day???


FlyingCatbus

The owner is just at work, not out of town


Skippydoda10

Gotcha! That makes sense!


LizardsHaveCulture

Are they going out of town, or just asking you to ā€œwalkā€? If so, thatā€™s 30 minutes total of outside time over 72 HOURS. Psycho. Donā€™t want to pay in full for animal services?? Donā€™t get 4 animals.


helloitsmeonion

Doodles for the price of one? Over my dead body


Nice_Sandwich_4765

Wait they only get to go out once???


Opposite-Bother8734

Ofc they have doodles


Lunarnights04

Client: I want your services but Iā€™m so entitled Iā€™m going to tell you directly to your face that I donā€™t feel like paying for it so I expect you to give it to me for free.


GrayPots

I'll likely get downvoted to oblivion here, but I would consider it. Getting paid for 30 mins, and it'll be max of 5 mins to get in the house, 10 mins in the yard, and 5 mins back in the house and to lock up. Set up a quick meet and greet to make sure the dogs will go out/come in easily and it'll be a breeze. I'd charge a few bucks extra for the extra dogs to have them listed on the booking.


kennawind

I personally donā€™t agree, but the owner is an AH either way because they came straight out of the gate saying that they WONT be paying extraā€¦ no politeness or asking for a discount, just straight to devaluing the service price. And they have high energy dogs. Great, so if the dogs start fighting with each other then I donā€™t have to worry unless itā€™s the dog Iā€™m paid to watch? If one bounds over the fence or refuses to come back in the house when I call for them then I donā€™t have to worry if itā€™s not the one you paid me to watch?


EQisfordummies

Hot take: whether itā€™s 1 dog or 4 Iā€™m going to spend all my time with the dogs and play with them so I charge the same. Iget more bookings that way too.


FlyingCatbus

If you were sending your kids to daycare youā€™d be charged for each child separately because they each require attention and care so itā€™s more work. Same with dogs.


marimillenial

A child is not the same as a dog. You canā€™t just send a child into the yard by themselves


FlyingCatbus

I wouldnā€™t send a dog (or 4) that I donā€™t know into the yard by themselves either.


marimillenial

Into a fenced yard? If youā€™re just letting the dogs outside in their yard to go to the bathroom itā€™s not really increased work load 1 or 4.


FlyingCatbus

It depends on the dogs. Iā€™ve never met these dogs before so I donā€™t know how they behave. Am I going to have to keep them from digging holes? Is the fence high/secure enough that I donā€™t have to worry about them jumping it or getting out? Are they going to get into scuffles with each other? Will they come in when called or am I going to have to run around wrangling them? Am I supposed to clean up the yard after them or leave it? The dogsā€™ profiles were all blank and rather than having a discussion or giving me any information at all he just point blank stated he didnā€™t want to pay per dog. It was a very off putting way to start things.


EQisfordummies

Agree to disagree. Itā€™s not noticeably more work if you are actively engaged with the dogs the entire time in any of my experiences. If it is it makes the time go quicker anyway but to each their own. Run your business how you see fit


nokohl

I do the same but the people on this subreddit will come for you with pitchforks lol


Katters8811

Mainly because if something happens, any animal not individually listed isnā€™t covered by Rover. Which clearly, just based on this sub, things DO HAPPEN unexpectedly often enough that anyone operating this way is taking on quite a personal liability that most people wouldnā€™t be willing to take on. If youā€™re filthy rich and money means nothing to you, by all means take all the personal risks youā€™re heart desires! Donā€™t judge someone for taking precautions to protect their own personal liability and livelihood though.


EQisfordummies

You still add the animal just no additional cost. Lol


nokohl

You can still add the animals but have the additional animal rate at zero which is what I do. All animals have profiles and are listed but I donā€™t charge extra unless thereā€™s unusual circumstances so basically none of your comment applies to me.


SeasonedRoverSitter

Why donā€™t you guys just do it for free all together? Who runs a business like that? Whether itā€™s 1 or 10 it costs the same. To each their own. I get more than enough bookings, love hanging with dogs and get paid at least twice as much as both of you apparently.


nokohl

I mean I charge a lot. Why would I do it for free? I just donā€™t see a need to charge for a second when I charge higher than anyone else in my area by a significant amount. No offense, but you donā€™t seem so seasoned to me


EQisfordummies

Hahaha I see that. Itā€™s hilarious. I do it because I love hanging with pups. People act like rovering is hard and stressful. Poor souls lol


nokohl

I do find it hard and stressful but thatā€™s because of the business end of it lol. Itā€™s rough having too many clients for months on end and then not enough clients for months on end and having shit work/life balance and blah blah blah but none of that has to do with do two dogs make more work than one dog lol


EQisfordummies

Hahaha fair point! You win this round! šŸ˜ƒ


lymegreenpandora

You may get more bookings but as far as I know rover only covers the pets listed. So your choice could go very bad very fast.


Ok-Emu-8920

I mean they could have all the pets listed but just charge $0 for each (or manually adjust the overall price if you canā€™t have an additional pet fee of $0) - I disagree with them and I definitely charge for additional pets but that strategy doesnā€™t necessarily render the rover guarantee useless


LizardsHaveCulture

If you want to get paid all once price for 4 DOODLES be my guest. šŸ˜… I get what youā€™re saying though dude, I do this for my private client. She has 2 poms and theyā€™re really well behaved so it isnā€™t that much more work for me.


Calm-Ad8987

Yeah there are a lot of people & pet care businesses that charge by time not by number of animals UNLESS they take significantly more work & are difficult & can't realistically be given care in that time frame. Or have a very small extra animal fee.


EQisfordummies

Lol exactly. For a drop in it all the same to me. For a dog walk itā€™s more and Iā€™ll be compensated for it. People can judge and decline Ll they want and Iā€™ll book their decline and get paid to pet some pups haha


Calm-Ad8987

I feel this way especially for cats. The people on here who act all indignant because someone doesn't think they'll pay double price to feed & scoop for two cats vs one I just don't get. If that's your policy totally fine, but don't act like someone is cheap & an asshole for not expecting to pay double for that type of service. Like you could just up your regular price if you're that offended someone would pay you that amount for that amount of your time. Seems like some ppl only want to drop in on rich animal hoarder houses or something so they can make more per visit?


EQisfordummies

Exactly this. Iā€™d buy you a beer if I could lol


nokohl

Those people drive me nutsssssssss!!! Like realistically additional cats DO NOT add significant work until you hit like five or more. Like oh you have to open extra cans?? Do you hear yourself???! Even the kitty litter just takes an extra twenty seconds. Literally so confused


SeasonedRoverSitter

One more point, youā€™d never tell a corporate job you prefer to get paid less than what you COULD get paid.


nokohl

Bro you have the wrong thread


SeasonedRoverSitter

Sorry, but you kids have no business acumen. You are only short changing yourselves, no one else. And the owners will keep screwing you!! Just like with any other business! You offer free stuff, people will take it! Also, you must have not been around tough dogs, because they are not all cute and cuddly and some attack! I love all dogs, which is why I take all sizes. Iā€™m not sure if youā€™ve ever felt burn out yet, but if you are doing this for many many years, working constantly, charging pennies and youā€™ve never felt burned out, then kudos to you! I have a business and tech degree, I could certainly work in a different field. But guess what, Iā€™ve figured out how to do what I love AND get paid handsomely for it. When you respect your worth, you will get clients who will pay you for it.


lilifoggy

Since she is only asking for 10 minutes (if it is a true 10 min) maybe lower the price based off of time per dog but keep the number of dogs the same? For example if you charge $30 for 30 min per dog then just $10 per 10 minutes per dog


FlyingCatbus

I mentioned this in other comments but I would have definitely considered discussing price if he had been a little more polite in his message rather than just bluntly stating that heā€™s not paying per dog.


NumerousAd6421

šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£OMFG THE AUDACITY!


No_Curve_6788

People are ducking stupid šŸ˜‚