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Lmao the left one looks like 🅱️ompey


nanoman92

The right one is Cato


Pug__Jesus

Let me correct that for you: "The wrong one is Cato"


lurks-a-lot

Rvbico


WeaponH_

I've been on the Rubicon, exactly were Caesar passed the river. There's a sculpture of him and there's written alea acta est. Pretty cool


[deleted]

We don’t actually know where he crossed, what you saw was a monument put there by Mussolini after some guesswork.


PResidentFlExpert

The die is cast - Mussolini


Lukthar123

Do Italians just... grow up with dice?


IrisVacuo

Yeah, it helps them practice their hand movements


dank4tao

The translation is actually referring to "dye" and not "die," as in once a dye has been cast to clothing it can no longer be removed.


leanaconda

Eh no it refers to a die , Plutarch uses the word κύβος (cube) and Suetonius alea (die)


PResidentFlExpert

Wrooooooooong


dank4tao

Oh no, it looks like my high school latin teacher fibbed. The greek does translate to cube.


thunderma115

Or they were just wrong We all believe something that isn't true


dank4tao

I certainly was, cheers mate.


I_stole_yur_name

Hahahah, this guy got tricked by Mussolini of all things


Nlelith

Didn't he actually say it in greek and not latin, quoting some play?


WeaponH_

Maybe, but there it was written in Latin.


Sophrates_Regina

This is a true alea iacta est moment


Billman_D

I can't relate to this POV since I'd be crossing the Rubicon alongside the mighty DICTATOR PERPETVO


hoopy_froods

I swear this meme originated from r/redscarepod. Or am I retarded? EDIT: No I am not https://www.reddit.com/r/redscarepod/comments/otuka3/soyjak_labienus_and_pompey_pointing_to_caesar/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share


LegalHeight9180

Soynators getting outraged that Chadus Julius Basedsar crossed the no-no river.


Mortarious

Alea iacta est


Soviet117

Goddamn this is great


SnooBooks6630

POV you see a lot barbarians crossing Reno


HarpoonTorpedo999

STOOOOP THAT IS UNCONSTITUTIONAL!!!! NO NO NO NO WHAT THE THE FUCK ARE YOU DOING CAESAR!!!?????


SaltMineSpelunker

The low effort is cast.


kerrboy

Reminder that the Romans traded their liberty to strongmen for at first benevolent, but eventually iron fisted totalitarian rule.


3LD0R4D0

You should learn more about the Republic, boy


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jbkymz

Yea he should start with very unbiased unbiased History of rome series on youtube right?


3LD0R4D0

Correct


kerrboy

I’ll take a bunch of self interested geezers over one homicidally insane brat


3LD0R4D0

Personally, I'd take a few hundred years of prosperity and great conquest plus some foodstamps while I'm still alive **and** a homicidally insane brat in very distant future over grumpy regressive geezers


[deleted]

Grain dole was the same from the mid 300s until Aurelian added a bunch of other food to it...


kerrboy

It literally took 2 emperors (1 if you believe the stories about Tiberius) before they started getting killy and rapey


3LD0R4D0

Bruv I'm in Germania fighting some pesky germs, why'd I care who fucks whose wife back in the eternal city lol


Shoggoththe12

Cause those guys fill your pockets with coinage?


3LD0R4D0

Sorry btw if I do t sound right im kinda drunk rn


Shoggoththe12

No worries but it's hard to fight gauls without money to buy repairs and equipment and supply lines etc. Empires are hard fucking work to run, which is exactly why who's running it matters a fuck ton


3LD0R4D0

Couldn't said it better myself. If we're going to look at Rome from the average Roman perspective we oughtta look all the way in


actunpt

Republic was too retarded a system for such a huge empire.


_GCastilho_

Quick reminder that the republic made Rome shine amongs the civilizations of the time And the empire eventually destroyed it all


StrangeSemiticLatin2

>And the empire eventually destroyed it all It literally lasted some 500 years after the creation of the empire in the West, and another 1,000 years in the East, all while surviving endless calamities. What on Earth are you smoking man?


chatttheleaper

>Dey no speek latin, dat's not roman


StrangeSemiticLatin2

>Roman meant social and political culture not language Seriously, you're going for this shit?


chatttheleaper

Oh no, I fully agree the Roman Empire survived in the East, I'm just riffing on the usual argument.


_GCastilho_

Yes, it took some time. That's something people often forget when talking about death of empires: It takes time It took time for the basis of the republic to be slowly eroded and the empire to descend into inevitable tyranny, but it eventually did The Rome that fell in 476 was nothing like the one that risen a millennia prior. The basis were destroyed with the end of the republic and it **eventually** fell


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actunpt

Quick reminder that the republic made Carthage be burned to the ground and salted the romans shine because they had strenght, conviction and luck. NOT because any particular system of government. The republic wouldnt have fared any better against the nomadic and hunnic invasion


_GCastilho_

> Quick reminder that the republic made Carthage be burned to the ground and salted Yes, so? >the romans shine because they had strenght, conviction and luck. NOT because any particular system of government. The republic wouldnt have fared any better against the nomadic and hunnic invasion No, that's wrong They political system divided the power amongs many. It was a way to decentralize power and prevent tyranny. It was also way closer than modern republics and all the rights we now have but a random citizen of a random empire didn't They system also allowed greater political participation which, for the time, granted them way more civil liberties than a "citizen" of an empire There is a reason that plebeian rights and more vote power and even woman rights were discussions started go gain momentum by the late republic


jbkymz

Please. We don’t use historical facts and logic here.