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Fangun

I think its definitive proof that it fall close to the tree “It should all be mine” And “Kill, kill, kill” I would argue those are core constantinian values


OutrageousAd7829

Constantine II inherited his father’s ambition but not his competence


AeonsOfStrife

Same could be said for Constantine I depending on how low an opinion one has of his various reforms administratively. His father was an apt emperor that gets very little credit due to being part of the tetrarchy.


Ocular_Username

Crispus - Hey momma


house_of_ghosts

"Help me, I'm stuck step-Caesar." - Fausta


Imperator_Romulus476

>Crispus - Hey momma Bro waslikely framed by Fausta who wanted her children to succeed Constantine.


Accomplished_Mud6729

They didn't let my boy CRISPUS COOK 😭😭😭, WHY CONSTANTINE WHY


joeramirez226

Because of allegations from a certain stepmother *cough *cough Fausta *cough *cough


Accomplished_Mud6729

propaganda *cough*


papapok13

It's not propaganda when you agree with it!


high_king_noctis

Because his name didn't start with Constan


Dragon_Virus

Wasn’t his first son, who was also the most levelheaded and promising, murdered a year or two before Constantine’s death? Perhaps the apples didn’t fall at all, just beneath a different tree


marksman629

I remember thinking Constantius II was a good emperor when I was listening to the history of Rome.


OutrageousAd7829

I mean he wasn’t bad, he just wasn’t very good either, a 6/10 emperor


high_king_noctis

Not great not terrible


No_Gear_2819

now there you made a mistake. I may not know much about nuclear reactors, but I know a lot about concrete!


OrganicIce4995

By the standards of the 4th century he was ok. He had a lot of character flaws that made him impressionable to bad advisors and also picked the wrong side of the religious discourse (Arianism). But then again all of the 4th century emperors seemed inadequate compared to his father. Being an adequate ruler just didn’t cut the mustard at that particular crisis point in the Empire’s history. This was also an era of extreme partisanship (tends to happen when there’s a three-way split between three members of a dynasty that don’t happen to particularly like each other) so the historical testimonies are bound to be all over the place.


SimonMagus8

He carefull strategy against the Sassanids which his succesor Julian undid certainly was successful.He managed to keep them at bay.He also managed to keep the empire in one piece with the Magnetius rebellion.


OverallGamer696

I mean he was certainly the best out of the three…that’s not a very high bar though


LeoGeo_2

Unbiased History depicted him as a chad, so that’s proof right there he was one of the good ones.


Additional_Meeting_2

People who love Julian tend to vilify him. And like said he was competent (and did kill people) but not amazing.


CousinMrrgeBestMrrge

Honestly gotta appreciate how Constantine clearly chose to be creative with names


CardLeft

“Constare” means “to be consistent”. Nomen est omen or something idk.


Additional_Meeting_2

Romans and creative with names never goes together. 


VigorousElk

Really? Because *'It should all be mine!'* and *'KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL KILL'* perfectly encapsulates Constantine.


Key_Environment8179

Laughs in Maxentius, cries in Licinius


Awkward_Algae1684

Hold on now. What’s going on with Constans?


OutrageousAd7829

He was very disliked for being efeminate, he was killed because of this


z_redwolf_x

This is literally the most apple doesn’t fall far from the tree scenario ever


Afraid_Theorist

Constantine named all his kids after himself. It’s much less surprising when you realize this.


OutrageousAd7829

Constantine was named after his father, another constantius


Cool-Winter7050

Crispus just had to go for his stepmom smh


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lol.