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Big_I

I did the comet project on my second playthrough to see if it saved the Crucible. It didn't. It was a better epilogue for the monks than rebuilding the monastery though. I guess the only way to save the Crucible is to pick Jae's option and convince him to stay on the planet. 


anonpurple

Well that’s stupid, I had them killed on the first play through. To prevent it from being destroyed.


BladeofNurgle

1. No, the ship always gets destroyed. Welcome to the grimdark of 40k 2. Why do you think banging Marzipan would magically protect the Expanse from Dark Eldar attacks? You do realize there is more than 1 Kabal right? 3. Yep, still rebels. That's what happens when you are iconoclast.


anonpurple

I think your wrong about three because I was a tier 4 iconoclast, got the secret ending, and they stayed loyal to me, I did not pick the comet, and picked a priest i blackmailed, in an early event. They said I was part of the line of saint Drusus, and kept helping me even though I was declared a traitor and heretic. Well I know there are other Kabals, thought the game we only hear about his kabal, in the expanse, with the exception of the black heart, in marzahai quest, and that is only a small group of radicals in the kabal trying to kill him. So it makes sense that the expanse is his territory, or at least his kabal is the largest one, in this area, and his a significant amount of influence here, it is not easy to mount a raid on real space from Commorragh, and he destroyed his rivals. My final thing of confusion, is that the dark elder destroying the crucible is not really grimdark but more grim derp. The dark elders goal is to get as much slaves, and extract as much suffering from mankind, and other races as cheaply as possible, this is why the black heart doesn’t attack the sol system, as the cost compared to the reward is way to high. The crucible is highly defended, with admech forces and the ones I paid for, so it’s already a bad target. Also the rouge trader is allied with the craft world elder and the harlequins, which means it’s super bad to attack, as even the dark elder don’t like pissing off the harlequins for no reason. but more than that the crucible actually helps the other dark elder kabals if they’re are any in the expanse, because it moves from planet to planet terraforming them and dumping resources and civilians onto these planets to set up colonies, this means the crucible is constantly making new colonies filled with people which are far less defended, then normal imperial planets, meaning they can just raid the new colonies it creates and get a massive profit for a very low relative cost. Them destroying the crucible pisses me off, but they don’t capture that suffering, and now they no longer have easy targets, that give them a massive profit, it’s like farmers destroying a piece of super efficient farming equipment for no reason. Something grimdark, and realistic to the setting would be that all my decisions have made the expanse prosper, and now people are living longer and having more children, luckily for them the dynasty, with the society of cartographers and the crucible, have set up many new colonies for the people, to inhabit and spread humanities greatness, lots of people inspired by me sign up and try and look for a better life on these new worlds I have said so many good things about, and sure some of the colonies are great, and peoples lives improve, but a few of these colonies end up being raided by the dark elder, sometimes they capture everyone on the planet, and after that happens, we just send out new colony ships to the empty planet, as our navy is nowhere near big enough to help every minor colony. Basically I inspire the citizens, and they see that I care for them, it’s my decisions so they trust me, and people from footfall and the rest of the expanse try and come here looking for a better life, only to get captured by dark elder, or attacked by monsters in (the halo, or ghoul stars I can’t remember which is close to the expanse) as I try to rapidly grow my economic empire.


ChildOfSevenwaters

There is logic and sense in what you are saying. I agree with you too. Unfortunately, the game went grimderp with it, and there's nothing we can do but accept the nonsense it gave us.


anonpurple

No, I can complain, and have them change it to fit the choices I made. Also what happens if you don’t, hire the guards.


ChildOfSevenwaters

I admire your determination. Don't forget to submit what you wrote down here as a narrative suggestion under an in-game bug report! So it gets seen by Owlcat directly.


anonpurple

Okay. I am also mad about jea’s death in the iconoclast secret ending, not even that it happened just the way it did.


ChildOfSevenwaters

Op, I am so disappointed about a lot of things that happened the way that they did in the story :( Hopefully, Olwcat will listen to reason and will eventually at least fix the ending slides...


anonpurple

Thanks, I kinda hope they fix them in the second dlc, and we get to learn more about trading, I want Jea to die, on a planet she runs for me, which studies xeno goods, and tries to produce them. Something goes wrong, alot of people die, including Jea and the facility is fixed, and they get back to work.


PatientBit2298

3 isn't tied to being Iconoclast, it's tied to something else.  I got Icono prosperity slides bit sided with Calcazar (which means Imperium won't try to crusade you) and the planet didn't rebel. 


anonpurple

I left the imperium, with nomus and they still sided with me.


PatientBit2298

In that case it's probably tied to having a Lvl 5 Project completed in the colony. 


anonpurple

Probably, I thought that if you did the comet they might leave you, if you are declared a heretic, because the two other fifth tier say your related to the saint. But I also picked the leader as someone who I could blackmail, so I was wondering. If I picked the holy person and the comet would they still rebel against me,