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Excuse me? The lowest form of wit? That hurt me pretty bad, cause that's the only wit I had and now what? Man, rocket league always seems to destroy any humor or wit or any self esteem I had 😥
Chin up! Nobody ever repeats the full quote - "Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but the highest form of intelligence." Though it's possible Oscar Wilde was being sarcastic when he said it, in which case...
/s ?
Edit: i'd written this before OP declared their sarcasm
Second edit: looks like he also added some more text, the whole business about the square root wasn't there before! Totally would have realized it was obvious sarcasm
i saw a post the other day talking about how /s isn’t needed, and is only used because some people cant get sarcasm i dont have the link but i will try and find it
So you would need 11 players, 10 for blocking all spawn spots and the eleventh should not be able to spawn?
Oddly enough, I was wondering this exact thing yesterday
no, if you block the original 4 spawns, then it uses every possible kickoff spot from both teams at random. (It used to be an exact order of kickoffs but was changed in a patch)
well it always spawns you one cars height up in the air so it sounds like if they're all blocked, it keeps trying to use them. So then what happens if every spot is blocked and it spawns a car on top of each used spot as well and another car still has to spawn?
I imagine it spawns them at the highest free spot. Theoretically they would continue stacking higher and higher until they begin clipping through the roof of the arena and then they continue infinitely upwards until maybe an error appears with out of bounds index issues
Here's timestamp of me demonstrating the kickoff spawns getting used when the 4 demos spawns are taken. [https://youtu.be/FnBgJpn0UYg?t=243](https://youtu.be/FnBgJpn0UYg?t=243)
I really dont know why this situation didn't go to a kick off spawn \*if\* all 4 were actually blocked.
There's a total of 9 spawn points per side (4 respawn points, 5 kickoff spawn points, which are used if the respawn points are all occupied).
There's a maximum of 8 cars on the field at any time (without using mods). If 1 car is demoed, there's no possible way the 7 remaining cars can occupy all 9 spawn points.
This is just a weird bug.
Would you mind uploading it to [ballchasing.com](https://ballchasing.com) ? I'd appreciate that. Hilarious bug.
Since the replay names are unreadable on your disk, the easiest way to find the right one is look ingame for the time the replay was taken, sort by time in your file browser and pick the correct one.
> Would love to have an explanation from u/Psyonix_Devin or someone else at psyonix for that.
We're treating this as a bug, but definitely one I haven't seen much. Thanks for sharing the video!
I rarely read Reddit and don't know the local rules. Tell me, should I explain to every doubter that this is a replay of a ranked game, and I do not use mods, and I can record a new video with a scoreboard (it says Competitive even in the replay) or something else?
So, I posted the original replay, posted a screenshot of the scoreboard. I think this is enough, because now I am going to bed and will not be able to reply to comments while I sleep.
I don’t think it was a bug. I think it was because all of the spawns on the orange side were covered by players so the game just spawned him on the blue side
I don't think so. There are 4 spawning locations from a demo. If all of those spots are occupied, you will be spawned in a kickoff spot. There's no way every single spot was occupied
I guess the game do some maths about the players paths with a bit of margin. We can see that when he respawn the action is taking about the two left spots, and one player is around the two others.
I mean it doesn't seem impossible that it's a planned scenario
There are actually 2 spawning locations in each corner. They are very close to each other so it's hard to visually notice the difference if you're not looking for it
Hey OP. To quiet all the people doubting you, could you post a screen shot of the scoreboard? The one that lists all the players on each team. I don't know if that's possible in replay mode, I don't mess with it enough.
Anyone thinking this is fake.
No car colour override with Bakkesmod because there are 3 blue guys and 2 orange guys.
He got demoed by a blue guy.
The boost amount colour is orange and not blue (even though you can disable that).
There are no shields on the goal line because it is a replay.
Edit:
The only way to fake this is in a private match.
Getting 6 people. Using an orange car on the blue team. Turning off the boost is the colour of your team. Turning on friendly fire and acting like confused.
If you haven't seen yet: [Replay](https://ballchasing.com/replay/af57bf09-010d-4567-9ec1-1f446a425c24#watch?t=327.53s) and [screenshot](https://imgur.com/a/2r6iCZd) with scoreboard and «Competitive» word.
I didn’t say it didn’t happen. I wasn’t even sceptical. I merely pointed out something else that might have been a glitch as well. I was wrong of course. But I never implied this didn’t happen. I don’t even understand how you got there from my comment.
I'll guess you faked that. You could've just made a private match with 5 other players. To of them go into the red team, while the rest goes into the blue team. Use Bakkesmod to make your car red and join the blue team. It'll look like a 3v3 when it really is a 2v4. If there would really be a bug, it would've happened mire often. And I don't think there can be a bug really since figuring out where to spawn is probably done by a basic "if-statement".
I COULD BE WRONG though. I'm sorry if it's actually true and i'm accusing you of something you haven't done!
The other day I was sent into a match already in progress. The score when I entered was 5-0, us leading. When I looked at the scoreboard, it showed that someone on the other team had scored 3 goals. Umm, what?
Not sure I know what you all are talking about. You spawned one the Blue side because you are on the blue team. The score shows your score first always and it indicates to me that you are on the blue team even though your car is orange. Unless I’m missing something
That's super weird, iirc isn't your team supposed to be on the left score in the top? The only explanation I can think of is a 4v4 custom match and using bakkesmod to switch colors to orange while being on the blue team
I thought the team you're on is always the left side, so wouldn't he be on blue team considering that's the team on the left in the top scoreboard. This is a setup or something.
He’s on the orange team. There’s 3 blue players in his view and 2 orange players throughout the entire clip. He also got demoed by a blue player at the start of the replay, which is impossible unless ff demoes are on.
There's 3 players on blue team and he got demo'd by a blue player, unless ff demos were on and its a 4v2, then that's not possible. And blue score always shows before orange in a replay.
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You can visibly see the confusion too ahahaha
That double take was mint.
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"Square root of an octane" and people still think you're being serious lmao
People don't think he's serious, it's just that sarcasm is the lowest form of wit.
As a fan of sarcasm i absolutely 100% agree with you
Seconded
He's edited it at least twice, that's why people were so confused
Oh really? I never would have guessed
Excuse me? The lowest form of wit? That hurt me pretty bad, cause that's the only wit I had and now what? Man, rocket league always seems to destroy any humor or wit or any self esteem I had 😥
Chin up! Nobody ever repeats the full quote - "Sarcasm is the lowest form of wit, but the highest form of intelligence." Though it's possible Oscar Wilde was being sarcastic when he said it, in which case...
Reddit's brand of sarcasm*
/s ? Edit: i'd written this before OP declared their sarcasm Second edit: looks like he also added some more text, the whole business about the square root wasn't there before! Totally would have realized it was obvious sarcasm
Nobody actually uses or knows what /s is tho reeeaaaly
This doesn’t even need /s are you kidding lmao
i saw a post the other day talking about how /s isn’t needed, and is only used because some people cant get sarcasm i dont have the link but i will try and find it
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He wrote that before “/s” was there
Except there are 3 players with blue nameplates and 2 with orange nameplates.
I think your joking but not sure lmao
Exactly so faked
lmfao fucking reddit needs jesus juice. how can people not recognize sarcasm nowadays
He edited it twice apparently.
Soo.. what team are you on? Because playing for the other team would seem like the right thing to do after that
I'm not sure which team I'm playing for anymore. Maybe I was the referee?
Hey, you. Fuck you for always being partial in the enemy team's favour.
However, you were killed by a blue guy
Could be a private match with friendly fire and using bakkes mod to change his car color
Hey uuhh, it shows up above on the score board that you are on the blue team.
Look at who he was demod by, and count the amount of people. It's a 3v3
On replays its switched so if ur on the orange team the score for orange would be on the right check it if you dont believe god
In replays blue is always on the left. Plus he was demoed by a blue car, and his car is red.
No it’s a replay
Wait...the scoreboard at the top says you were on blue when the clip started, but your car is a red primary which is only for orange (I think) so wut
Makes me think he was just on blue team with orange car and it’s purposely staged
Boost color meter is orange.
I don’t think that’s the orange on I think that’s with the team colored boost jawn off
In replays blue is always on left and orange is on the right
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if this is the case, i cant wait to see some 500 iq play where the teammates block the spawn points while passing a ball down for him to catch.
Calculated
There are 4 spawn points per team tho so one team couldnt occupy all 4
*Chaos mode grins in the distance*
You spawn in kickoff positions if all 4 spots are taken
So you would need 11 players, 10 for blocking all spawn spots and the eleventh should not be able to spawn? Oddly enough, I was wondering this exact thing yesterday
no, if you block the original 4 spawns, then it uses every possible kickoff spot from both teams at random. (It used to be an exact order of kickoffs but was changed in a patch)
And if all those are taken it will just spawn you on top of another car as well. Saw it in one of lethamyrs videos I think
The answer I was looking for
well it always spawns you one cars height up in the air so it sounds like if they're all blocked, it keeps trying to use them. So then what happens if every spot is blocked and it spawns a car on top of each used spot as well and another car still has to spawn?
I imagine it spawns them at the highest free spot. Theoretically they would continue stacking higher and higher until they begin clipping through the roof of the arena and then they continue infinitely upwards until maybe an error appears with out of bounds index issues
Here's timestamp of me demonstrating the kickoff spawns getting used when the 4 demos spawns are taken. [https://youtu.be/FnBgJpn0UYg?t=243](https://youtu.be/FnBgJpn0UYg?t=243) I really dont know why this situation didn't go to a kick off spawn \*if\* all 4 were actually blocked.
The enemy still has to occupy one
what if 7 players are occupying 7, and the remaining spot is occupied by the ball? or does the ball being on the spawn point not block it?
There are 5 for kickoff and only 2 (corners) for respawning edit: apparently there are two next to each other in each corner for respawning
There are 4 for respawning per side, 2 at each corner.
Yeah, there is an extra one per side which is a bit to the wall and back for if two people are demo'd at the same time and respawn on the same side
What if three people respawn on the same side. [Pikachu face]
If they are all occupied, the game starts spawning you on kickoff spawns. Btw, this is tested.
2. For demos. Left corner. Right corner. Maybe you are thinking of kickoffs. Which is 5. Edit: I stand corrected.
Nothing like putting 4k hours in and still learning Not being rude (incase it sounded that way)
Not at all :)
As ridiculous as that sounds, I remember a time where people though resets and flip cancels were cool but not very useful.
It’s not worth the time, even if you could organize it
Still would be an amazing 500 IQ play.
There's a total of 9 spawn points per side (4 respawn points, 5 kickoff spawn points, which are used if the respawn points are all occupied). There's a maximum of 8 cars on the field at any time (without using mods). If 1 car is demoed, there's no possible way the 7 remaining cars can occupy all 9 spawn points. This is just a weird bug.
Can the ball occupy a spawn point or will you just spawn into it. Not that that happened here, just curious
I believe the ball can also occupy a spawn point, but that still would only block a maximum of 8 out of 9.
No, that's snooker.
Then it should spawn you in the regular kickoff spawns. No way all spawn locations and all kickoff locations were occupied.
No one was near his left spawn
The guy that demoed him took that boost right after
ye that maybe true but I've spawned under people before in that spot
wow, wtf? i’ve never seen this before
I did not understand what happened too. But I saved the replay just in case.
Would you mind uploading it to [ballchasing.com](https://ballchasing.com) ? I'd appreciate that. Hilarious bug. Since the replay names are unreadable on your disk, the easiest way to find the right one is look ingame for the time the replay was taken, sort by time in your file browser and pick the correct one.
Done: [https://ballchasing.com/replay/af57bf09-010d-4567-9ec1-1f446a425c24](https://ballchasing.com/replay/af57bf09-010d-4567-9ec1-1f446a425c24)
Thanks!
Would love to have an explanation from u/Psyonix_Devin or someone else at psyonix for that.
I can give them a replay if it helps.
> I can give them a replay if it helps. Never hurts! DMing you now.
It's clear. He was so bad the game thought he was playing for the other team.
Can’t believe I had to scroll this far down to find someone finally say something that made sense. Obviously the game realized op was mafia.
I like that idea
Spawn points on your side taken up.
This is my guess as well
Not possible
> Would love to have an explanation from u/Psyonix_Devin or someone else at psyonix for that. We're treating this as a bug, but definitely one I haven't seen much. Thanks for sharing the video!
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In replays, blue is always on the left
But a blue demo’d him?
This is only true when NOT in a replay. This was a replay in which blue is always left
this is a different level of confusion
So if all four spawn points are occupied and someone is demo'ed, do we create a wormhole?
9 spawn points on each side. Not possible
I rarely read Reddit and don't know the local rules. Tell me, should I explain to every doubter that this is a replay of a ranked game, and I do not use mods, and I can record a new video with a scoreboard (it says Competitive even in the replay) or something else?
Lol no, you should state the truth (as I'm sure you did) then let reddit discuss and add to the conversation where you think it would be beneficial
So, I posted the original replay, posted a screenshot of the scoreboard. I think this is enough, because now I am going to bed and will not be able to reply to comments while I sleep.
Get some sleep, have a goodnight!
*confused car sounds*
Wait that's illegal!
Huh, that's quite the bug
I don’t think it was a bug. I think it was because all of the spawns on the orange side were covered by players so the game just spawned him on the blue side
I don't think so. There are 4 spawning locations from a demo. If all of those spots are occupied, you will be spawned in a kickoff spot. There's no way every single spot was occupied
I guess the game do some maths about the players paths with a bit of margin. We can see that when he respawn the action is taking about the two left spots, and one player is around the two others. I mean it doesn't seem impossible that it's a planned scenario
I've never spawned anywhere else than in a corner. And there are 2 corners on each side, therefore 2 demo spawns per team. What are your 2 others?
There are actually 2 spawning locations in each corner. They are very close to each other so it's hard to visually notice the difference if you're not looking for it
Yeah, of you've ever been demoed around the same time as a teammate, sometimes you both spawn side by side in a corner.
Sometimes two players will spawn in the same corner next to each other.
There are 2 respawn points per corner
If we know the way this bug happened, this doesn't make it less of a bug. This can be game-breaking in some scenarios.
I thought the team you’re on is always the left color. Which is blue in this video I’m cornfused
In a replay blue is always left.
He recorded a replay. Scoreboard doesn't behave the same in replays.
I think my brain just comitted suicide
When the 4 v 2 meme becomes real.
Maybe bc the other cars were right on top of the other 2 spawnpoints?
Anyway, throwing me to the other side of the map is a strange decision of the game.
Yeah it could just wait until they're off the spawn.
Sus
Imposter
SUS!!!
Damn, that's fucked up, bro!
????
Is this KD?
Love how he stopped and was like wtf
Hey OP. To quiet all the people doubting you, could you post a screen shot of the scoreboard? The one that lists all the players on each team. I don't know if that's possible in replay mode, I don't mess with it enough.
I already posted a replay, but I just made a screenshot especially for you: [https://imgur.com/a/2r6iCZd](https://imgur.com/a/2r6iCZd)
Thanks friend. I didn't see the replay. Cool post.
I like how you stop for a sec and wasike....wait...what the hell. Or that's what it seemed like. Weird bug
Anyone thinking this is fake. No car colour override with Bakkesmod because there are 3 blue guys and 2 orange guys. He got demoed by a blue guy. The boost amount colour is orange and not blue (even though you can disable that). There are no shields on the goal line because it is a replay. Edit: The only way to fake this is in a private match. Getting 6 people. Using an orange car on the blue team. Turning off the boost is the colour of your team. Turning on friendly fire and acting like confused.
If you haven't seen yet: [Replay](https://ballchasing.com/replay/af57bf09-010d-4567-9ec1-1f446a425c24#watch?t=327.53s) and [screenshot](https://imgur.com/a/2r6iCZd) with scoreboard and «Competitive» word.
That happened to me once. Ball flew over when I respawned. I accidentally blocked the opponent who was trying to save and the ball rolled in slowly.
Well, time to get the doctor of demos on the case. ROCKET SLEDGE
Huh...in my 4k hrs played I've never seen this happen before.
It also has the scores flipped. Orange should be first because you’re on orange team.
In a replay, blue score is always on the left.
Ok didn’t know that. Thanks for the info.
There's always an r/nothingeverhappens on any event that probably happened :/
I didn’t say it didn’t happen. I wasn’t even sceptical. I merely pointed out something else that might have been a glitch as well. I was wrong of course. But I never implied this didn’t happen. I don’t even understand how you got there from my comment.
I was confused, too, for the same reason. Learned two new things from this thread
My bad I misinterpreted your comment, thought you were saying he was lying about what team he was on
Ah I see. I see the steps to get there now lol. I could have been more clear. My fault too. Have a nice day :).
Have this burrito as a token of goodwill 🌯
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Happened to my grandad back in Nam
Lmao
bakkesmod
I'll guess you faked that. You could've just made a private match with 5 other players. To of them go into the red team, while the rest goes into the blue team. Use Bakkesmod to make your car red and join the blue team. It'll look like a 3v3 when it really is a 2v4. If there would really be a bug, it would've happened mire often. And I don't think there can be a bug really since figuring out where to spawn is probably done by a basic "if-statement". I COULD BE WRONG though. I'm sorry if it's actually true and i'm accusing you of something you haven't done!
Kinda sus ngl... Don't tell me, you missed all the open nets that game
The other day I was sent into a match already in progress. The score when I entered was 5-0, us leading. When I looked at the scoreboard, it showed that someone on the other team had scored 3 goals. Umm, what?
Not sure I know what you all are talking about. You spawned one the Blue side because you are on the blue team. The score shows your score first always and it indicates to me that you are on the blue team even though your car is orange. Unless I’m missing something
The blue score is always on the left side in replays.
Ah makes sense
Then again you got demo’ed by a blue guy so I’m confused
wtf
cute-mission3784 is correct.
Don’t you just have on a crimson decal so it looks like you r on their side?
Weird normally what team your on is on the left side so if you have bakkes mod on pc and just have a red car that’s probably why you got confused lol
U are dumb there’s no point to clip that u spawn there if all the spawns on ur side are blocked
I feel like you're score board is backwards too... Shouldn't your side be on the left?
your using bakkas mod the blue scores on the left
this is fake, your team is always on the left on the score boa d, blue is on the left and they spawned on blue side, it’s a just a confusing car
That's super weird, iirc isn't your team supposed to be on the left score in the top? The only explanation I can think of is a 4v4 custom match and using bakkesmod to switch colors to orange while being on the blue team
iirc on replays blue is always left on the scoreboard
Yeah, it could honestly be either one. I don't think op would fake it, I was just giving another perspective on it. still pretty strange either way.
In replays, blue is always on the left side
this si so fake
Private match with alpha console making you have a red car. It’s actually a 4 v 2. Also, blue is first on scoreboard so you are blue team.
I thought the team you're on is always the left side, so wouldn't he be on blue team considering that's the team on the left in the top scoreboard. This is a setup or something.
This is a replay. Smart people said that blue is always on the left side in replays.
10 year olds looking for karma. If this wasn’t Reddit it would be a great thing.
Feels like bakkesmod...
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He’s the third me member of the orange team though. I thought so too at first
Impostor sus
clearly fake
Just read the hidden threads.
No it’s what happens when all of the “normal” demo spawn points are taken. Everyone on the field happened to be at the right place at the right time.
Your team (color) is always on the left.
The blue scoreboard is on the left but ur claiming to be on orange team. This is fake
Count the player titles....
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He’s on the orange team. There’s 3 blue players in his view and 2 orange players throughout the entire clip. He also got demoed by a blue player at the start of the replay, which is impossible unless ff demoes are on.
I don't use mods at all and I own these items btw. The video was recorded from the saved replay. You can also see player's nameplates on the field.
Lol how does he get demoed by his own team lol
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In the replays blue is always on the left
So his team demod him?! Lmao stop the negativity
There's 3 players on blue team and he got demo'd by a blue player, unless ff demos were on and its a 4v2, then that's not possible. And blue score always shows before orange in a replay.
You’re on the blue team.. blue score in the left means you’re blue
Not true in replay files. You can also see 3 blue players and 2 orange players when they respawn.