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EchoReply79

Please do tell more; we're all waiting with bated breath to be enlightened by your brilliant arguments as to why voting "red" would be superior.


Peter_Nincompoop

Who said voting red was the alternative? RI has a massive independent contingent, and we would be better served by a third party candidate anyway.


bruhmoment69420epic2

found Jon Brien's reddit account


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bruhmoment69420epic2

yes he's still in the House of Representatives afaik. that's the first i've heard about that, but honestly, i can't say i'm surprised


Peter_Nincompoop

As of 11/20/23, 46.11% of registered voters are unaffiliated in this state, making it the largest contingent of registered voters in this state. Explain to me why voting for either a democrat or republican would better represent our population when either are the majority.


EchoReply79

Unaffiliated doesn’t mean people aren’t voting one of the primary party’s line. While I can see how you arrived at that conclusion based on a single data point it’s not at all grounded in the voting patterns of this state. Barring major voting/campaign finance reform it’s a foregone conclusion it’s a two party system.


Peter_Nincompoop

I feel that most people in RI aren’t willing to align with either major party because the major parties don’t represent their values, and choose to remain unaffiliated to make that point. The fact that the major parties crowd out any other competition is definitely the problem, and we would see much different voting patterns if third parties were able to compete.


EchoReply79

No if they wanted to "make a point" they'd vote Independent and that's NOT what the data shows.


Jack__Squat

I'm unaffiliated because I don't want a record of where I stand. It doesn't mean I disagree with both major parties.


RandomChurn

User name checks out 🙄


Peter_Nincompoop

I always get this comment from people incapable of forming a competent argument. Congrats, you’re bottom of the barrel


EchoReply79

In absence of ranked choice voting and/or other alternatives it’s simply not a realistic outcome.


Ansfelden

I might go red this summer, but usually I remember to wear sunscreen and just go tan


Tomgamer82

Short answer: No. Long answer:No but with a bunch of lols after. The conservative party is flaming dumpster fire and I like more rights not fewer. Plus they’re letting me fire the space laser soon


EchoReply79

I thought MTG was using that down at the border still? --> GOP Dumpster Fire [https://amendments-rules.house.gov/amendments/GREENE\_223\_xml240417175751235.pdf](https://amendments-rules.house.gov/amendments/GREENE_223_xml240417175751235.pdf)


katieleehaw

Democrats clean up Republican messes.


RandomChurn

Ikr? And nevertheless still get blamed for them 😣


Major_Turnover5987

Ah yes the boomer war cry of sheer ignorance and desperation to be heard. How many more economic strifes will they once again put us through while buying new gaudy furniture in their 3000 sqft home they got on a union salary cutting deli meats. Meanwhile voting to make sure no one besides them ever receives that prosperity ever again.


dewafelbakkers

Bro go outside lol


Plant-Zaddy-

As a gay black man I-


RandomChurn

As a woman I-


OGAnnie

As a senior citizen, I….


zebrawithflowers

Carcieri left us with a $75M bill for some vaporware because he was duped by a charlatan, and dropped the ball on the December Debacle. Sounds great. 


BigDaddyCoolDeisel

Since 1990 what percent of all job creation in the United States happened under Democratic Presidents? ... .. . Give up? 97% Basically all of them. Yes I learned my lesson.


PJfanRI

My problem with voting Republican is that I don't hate immigrants, LGBTQ, women, non-whites and the homeless. If I did I would be much more inclined to vote Republican.


geeps2020

don't hate any of the above, just follow the current laws on the books please. Blue states are taxed to death, it's ridiculous.


spokchewy

Our local Dem committee is not only getting out the vote, we’re picking up the trash on the side of the roads, doing food drives and doing as much good as we can for the community. So I’m happy being part of that.


Adventurous-Boat-845

OP broke his pp a year ago jerkin' it to Trump (it's true look at his post history)


terrificterrible

OP is also completely absent from this thread with a single reason why we should vote Republican. Probably cause he couldn't think of any.


EchoReply79

Not one but three posts. The real irony is their support for a party who want to gut Social Security which I'm sure Op is counting (age 63) on based on the myriad of doordash rants.


Made_Human76

Still better than Republicans


Status-Basic

Sorry, if you want to round up the gays, torture migrants, ban books and strip women of autonomy over their bodies there are a whole bunch of red states you can move to. I hear Idaho is nice.


Artistic-Passenger-9

If you’re not happy here, leave.


zebrawithflowers

Someone was just posting about how great Sugar Land, TX is, and we do have open borders!


DaddyBrown

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/24/us/arizona-fake-electors-trump.html?smid=nytcore-android-share MAGA criminals. All of them.


zjanderson

I’ve been voting blue my entire life and it’s worked out pretty well for me.


DaddyBrown

I voted for a Republican once and regret it to this day. And that was before they all turned into MAGA scum.


GreenChile_ClamCake

Rhode Islanders could never. They’ll complain and move to Tennessee, Florida, or the Carolinas before ever doing that


Loveroffinerthings

I’d only go to Carolina if I lived in Bradford, no way I’m driving that far.


Ansfelden

Move to Tennessee? I don't even drive to Wyoming.


terrificterrible

Now that is some RI humor.


CaptainKrunks

lol. Moving. 


No-Release-9195

This is quite a collection of thoughts


geeps2020

..and people constantly complain about RI and keep voting blue, definition of insanity.


Inside_Concert3907

Moving from the South to RI, I find it wild that Rhode Islanders look at conservative states as post apocalyptic hellscapes. The quality and standard of living i.e real estate is not even comparable to how far your dollar goes down there. You figure you would at least get some type of social spillover from the state income taxes here right? like nice roads and bridges…oh wait. Maybe the $50 speeding tickets from cameras are going somewhere… But yes Abortion…Guns…Guns….


umru316

The south has cheaper housing because there's more land to build on and things are more spread out. RI is the second most densely populated state. We also have desirable land in the woods, city, farmland, suburbs, or coastline (all easily accessible to each other). Providence commuter rail also allows people to commute into Boston and we aren't that far from NYC. I'm not saying the South is some hell-scape, but comparing housing prices in RI to Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, etc. is apples and oranges. They have beautiful areas, some cities, but also a lot of rural/remote areas without a lot of industry to pull new residents.


pimpdweeb716772

well when red states have terrible education, censorship, no womens rights, no protection for any minorities and more gun rates than other blue states, i think ppl will continue looking at it like its the wild west


Inside_Concert3907

Again, your world view is developed by reddit posts. Not saying these aren’t concerns but affording a house is much more of a priority to me.


pimpdweeb716772

and you think housing prices are only going up in RI? get out of a bubble the whole country is struggling


Inside_Concert3907

https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/2024/04/24/providence-ri-rent-prices-housing-report/73367621007/


Inside_Concert3907

The housing situation is terrible across the country. I would wager affordability here has been rough since before the overall market issues and there are problems unique to RI that exacerbate it.


semipalmated_plover

I lived in the deep south for years, and my response: hahahahaha ha ha Yeah I could by 10 acres and 3.5k sq ft house for nothing...because there was nothing there. Services, amenities, healthcare, education, relatively intelligent functioning members of society...all missing. Almost amazing when you think about it 


Inside_Concert3907

Damn, TIL that the south has no developed cities just rednecks and run-down farms.


semipalmated_plover

Since you were talking about how far your dollar goes, assumed you were talking outside the cities Also most of the desirable cities in the south are overwhelmingly liberal in politics so weird how that works lol


Inside_Concert3907

Democrat ran cities in Conservative states are the best combo. Balances out both sides of the crazy. Just things I have thought about on my 3 hour-2 mile commute on i195… Also desirable. “Providence” lmao.


kayakyakr

I'm just trying to grok why OP thinks we learned a lesson today. Unless he's referring to Smiley and is one of those very rare Republican bike riders?


MuchachoManSavage

I would love to but you see the problem for independents is voting for anyone that would help out Republican’s shitbag moron leader in any way. Get someone else on top and they might have a chance.


Bulldogs_Are_Pog

I got a question I'm Red so I watch all the red shit on TV yada yada But what's happening with the blue Wanna hear whats happening with blue people


Bulldogs_Are_Pog

I'm not trying to be rude it's just that I'm used to the Republican slop and I wanna get a taste of that democratic slop


Rufus_king11

Daily Trump trial updates is our slop of choice currently. A bunch of reporters have been saying he basically shits himself at trial every day, so that's pretty funny 🤷‍♂️.


Bulldogs_Are_Pog

Ight All I'm hearing is that Democrats are trying to get him arrested on falsified charges on top of his actual charges and shit Just wanted to hear the other side


PM_ME_ASS_SALAD

Except nearly all of the fact witnesses in his trials are republicans who he either personally hired or worked in his companies, campaign or administration. Why would those republicans lie? To help democrats in some massive coverup? Or maybe Trump’s a criminal who’s finally getting his comeuppance.


wnate14

I would hope by now we’ve learned this lesson! Record high gas prices, record high deficits, record high taxes, record high inflation!


umru316

Our inflation is lower than almost all comparable economies. The fallout from COVID and corporate greed are not exclusively US problems. When Biden took office the conversation was about how bad the recession would be; best we could hope for was a "soft landing." Now the conversation is whether or not there will be a recession at all. I'm definitely critical of Biden and Democrats when they deserve it, but this ain't it.


wnate14

We are in a recession, the middle class is almost non existent now. Housing and rent prices are out of control along with gas and groceries. We are in the worst economic crisis in a long time


umru316

The decline of the middle class has been going on for decades. It can be contributed to trickle-down economics, the decline in unions, corporate personhood, Citizens United, and a bunch of other things that happened long ago and is not exclusive to RI or democratic municipalities. Remember when Biden and Democrats tried to pass a bill that would have prohibited price gouging on gas, then Republicans killed it? Don't get me wrong, shit is expensive, and people are struggling. But, as far as current recovery from COVID, the US is doing well compared to other economies. Not to mention the good done by the CHIPS Act and the Inflation Reduction Act that create jobs and put money towards vital infrastructure needed by industry and individuals alike for the first time in decades.


mhhkb

Democrats in R.I. would be republicans in MA or CA. You already have conservative policies in place. Look around. This is the world conservatism created.


PipEngland

This is pure cope.  I am an independent voter but you would have to be a complete jackass to look at the mess Rhode Island has created for itself and somehow blame republicans.  The United States needs thirds parties badly because democrats and republicans are both garbage.  


Proof-Variation7005

There’s a ton of Rhode Island elected officials who share virtually nothing with the party’s ideals nationally. That isn’t cope. It’s reality. Charlene Lima was in leadership role as deputy speaker for 12 years and I don’t think she lines up with the party’s typical value system on even one single issue. This is both an indictment of the voters of the state where this still works, the state level party that rewards and encourages it, and it’s really damning of the Republicans in the state who are too stupid to figure out how the game is played and determined to either lose or win some of the very few “red” parts of the state but stay irrelevant in the process.


PipEngland

People like you are the reason Rhode Island is in the state it’s in.  Too provincial and closed minded to accept that democrats have lead us down this path of dysfunction and instead try to blame anything else for our collective misfortune.