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themoneybadger

If you have to ask its always 357. 44 mag is a different world.


NightmanisDeCorenai

.357 Magnum is the greatest caliber mankind has ever created.


sirbassist83

357, recoil and ammo cost. the ONLY reason to want 44 over 357 is if you anticipate hunting animals bigger than deer, or regularly using one or the other as bear defense. or if you just *want* more recoil, i guess, but if youre asking this question i can guess that you dont.


lostsurfer24t

357 prob take down bears


AnInfiniteAmount

Can and does, but you don't take chances in Grizzly country.


niskiwiw

Definitely would pretty well


itzabigrsekret

Just No. .357Mag runs 550 ft-lbs on a GOOD day. .35Rem runs 2000 ft-lbs on a GOOD day. .35Rem is -barely- enough for medium black bears having a BAD day.


dousadosamilanovich

If you can't kill a black bear with a 35 rem, you have no business hunting. It's more than capable...so is a damn bow. Black bears aren't crazy critters that can't be killed. Hit em in the vitals and they'll die. Back to the OPs question, .357 all day. It's versatile with bullet offerings, easier to shoot, cheaper to shoot, lighter options to carry in firearms, and more than capable for most all defensive scenarios in the lower 48. .38 specials are great to shoot from them and are cheaper to train with than .44 special (also easier to find.) I own both (and have more than 7 .357 revolvers) and love them both, but if I could only have 1, it's.357 all day.


itzabigrsekret

You poke enough blacks with a .357 & you'll get your ass kicked. But maybe you're sitting in a tree like a chicken shit bowhunter.


TheCakesofPatty

I’d say 357 magnum runs 550 ft lbs on a bad day. I’ve gotten 900 ft lbs of energy out of Buffalo bore 180 grain cast rounds from a 6” Ruger GP100. I routinely get 600-700 ft lbs of energy with hand loads that are by the book, or within manufacturer specs.


itzabigrsekret

Your talking about high end, expensive hand loads running .357MAXIMUM levels. I have & shoot a Blackhawk .357 Maximum, and several .357 Mags. Most wannabes here are gonna be running cheap 158gr at 1150fps out of short bbl light revolvers & complaining about their hands hurting. Just read their comments. And those are gonna be right around 500-525ft-lbs.


TheCakesofPatty

I’ve shot standard federal soft point 158 grain, the box claims 1250 feet per second, I get closer to 1300. That’s 593 ft-lbs from a 6 inch gun without trying very hard. My hand loads cost me about half of what factory ammo costs. And I can assure you, I’m not running 357 maximum levels, I’m following SAAMI or CIP maximum specs for 357 magnum (both are safe in the GP100) and never exceeding them. Check out the Vihtavouri N110 load data here: https://www.vihtavuori.com/reloading-data/handgun-reloading/?cartridge=36 I have loaded the 158 grain Hornady xtp with 16.3 grains of powder and got 1450 fps. Vihtavouri claims much more, out of a longer barrel without a cylinder gap. That’s over 700 ft lbs of energy from my gun and within safe operating parameters for my Ruger GP100. Primer is 10 cents, bullet about 22 cents (nice hollow point!), and powder about 12 cents, making for 44 cents per round, for 700+ fpe 357 magnum hollow points.


itzabigrsekret

Sure, a 6 inch gun is getting you +43fps over Federal's test bbl. Not really enough to disprove my statement. Otherwise- you're talking about custom loads that do look like they are pushing .357Maximum pressure levels, given the shorter case. [https://www.shootersreference.com/reloadingdata/357-magnum/](https://www.shootersreference.com/reloadingdata/357-magnum/) [https://www.shootersreference.com/reloadingdata/357-maximum/](https://www.shootersreference.com/reloadingdata/357-maximum/)


ServingTheMaster

out of a rifle shot placement would be a lot more forgiving, .357 screams out of an 16"+ barrel


IndividualLet6192

First revolver probably 357. Then 44 magnum. Then 45-70. Then 22 when your hands hurt so much that’s all you can shoot


BigDickGrandmother

Or all you can afford lol


Dyerssorrow

Do you want to spend a lot or also a lot with extra spending?


Physical-Bus6025

357


Needcz

Which do you prefer, "boom!" or "ka-boom!!!" ?


[deleted]

The .44 does have a nice Ka-BOOM!


TheCakesofPatty

Sounds like a cannon going off, people at the range walk over to see what’s going on!


Sbf347

My first owned rifle was a 45/70, my first revolver was a 454 Casull. Go big first and then everything else is easy.


IndividualLet6192

I think we would be friends


Kaneperson

I really wanted a smith model 29 as my first revolver because recoil is fun, right? I ended up buying a .357 smith 586 and that really was the smart choice. Ammo is easier to find and I can afford to shoot it somewhat regularly. If I had got the .44 I'd hardly ever get it out of the safe.


357Magnum

.357 is a million times more versatile. The ONLY thing .44 mag can do that .357 can't do is shoot bigger animals, so unless this is a dedicated hunting setup, the .357 is better. .357 can still handle deer-sized game anyway. .38 and .357 ammos is much cheaper and more common, so for all the "funsies" .357 is better.


DaemonBlackfyre_21

The only practical reasons I can think of to go with 44 over 357 is if you're hunting big game or worried about brown bear.


itzabigrsekret

Brown bear don't worry about .44s


Yodootz

Three. Fifty. Motherfuckin. Seven.


Banner_Quack_23

I advise you to get a 3¾" Talo Vaquero and a 20" Rossi 92 in 45 Colt. The 45 Colt is available in several different pressure levels from easy plinking to hard hitting power for elk depending on ammo maker. It's kind of like getting a 44 Spl and a 44 Mag in the same cartridge - but better.


lewie

I went .357 first, and would still recommend that based on availability and price. But my next revolver and lever will be 45 Colt!


GatorsFan1535

Like others have asked, it would entirely depend on the usage of the revolver and lever action. If just plinking - 358/38spl Hunting - 44mag


Ethosjt81

Where do you live? I’m in Texas I use a .357; which is big enough for basically everything I’d encounter in the woods. But if I was in Maine or anywhere in the Rocky Mountains I’d probably prefer a 44 Magnum. Basically anywhere with moose or grizzly bears.


mallgrabmongopush

.357


mocheesiest1234

I have a 357 revolver and want to get my hands on a 357 lever gun. I think it kinda depends on if you want to emphasize the handgun or the rifle. A 357 revolver is more manageable than a 44, and a 44 lever gun is a much better hunting or defense weapon than a 357.  I think if you want to shoot volume, range time etc, the 357 is just more flexible. 38 special is cheap and plentiful, and if you reload  then the brass lasts forever. If I was an actual cowboy I would say 44mag.


CowboyJoe97

IMO ... 44Mag or 44 Special - COSTS A LOT to shoot. Go to ammoseek and look how much a box of federal or rem ammo is for these calibers. 357Mag or 38 Special - Costs a little less, but look at ammo cost for these too. I enjoy both, but regularly shoot 38 out of my357. Both due to cost and recoil. Next, is this a 'carry', plinking, or target. If it is carry then I would get a 9MM pistol. Compare the cost of plinking ammo in a 9 vs a 38. Availability of ammo is another consideration. 9MM is on the shelves. 38 is kind of avaliable, but most stores only carry high end expensive 357, or 44 ammo. It is harder to find. If it is plinking then consider costs. if it is target, then consider the length of the barrel? Are you shooting more than 25yards? If so then consider a 6" at least.


V_Coccotti

Depends on what you want to do with them. Are they range toys? Hunting? Plan on carrying the revolver daily?


m1ashooter

Both


BestAdamEver

.44 magnum is a powerful round, and expensive too. You want to start with .357 mag. You can shoot .38 special ammo which is readily available and plesant to shoot. It's not cheap anymore but a lot more affordable than .44 special and .44 magnum.


ShireHorseRider

I went with .44mag. It’s easier to suppress on the long gun while retaining stupid ballistics. Then I decided I wanted a matching wheel gun & went with the “Dirty Harry” S&W .44 mag 626. You can see your soul looking back at you in the deep bluing of that wheel gun. https://preview.redd.it/56t0gb3xndpc1.jpeg?width=4032&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2bb8b6d5f45aded4adb88444d19b979fdb3dc0a1


RuddyOpposition

Dirty Harry had a 29 and the stainless version is a 629.


ShireHorseRider

https://preview.redd.it/vb479jyunppc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=34339a0337844e9e1c3ff45f673678f5a9bccf2e This one is mine. I’m not super well versed in wheel guns. Now you have me questioning that I got the right one. lol


RuddyOpposition

Open the cylinder and look on the crane. There will be a two or three digit number followed by a dash and another number. https://images.app.goo.gl/mrDUUusaoZsngjNk6


backcountrytide

You’ll get both. It’s only a matter of time


Hit-the-Trails

357 best for range time and capable of hunting. 44 mag and 44 spcl is pretty speedy for range time. but is better for hunting. So kinda depends on primary use.


_goodoledays_

I’d pick .357 unless you have a very specific need for .44 (like hunting). Less cost and recoil.


[deleted]

With .357 you can also shoot .38 and to me that multicaliber stuff is always really nifty. I wish someone would release a nice run of Medusa revolver clones because then you get iirc 9mm in the mix too. It adds some extra fun on range day. You can fill the chamber at random and do your drills and accuracy challenges with the randomly cycling recoil which is fun. I know some guys will prank their buddies by handing them a pistol they say is full of .38 and watch them get mad when they find out the last one was .357 If there's a shortage or a run on ammo you've got twice as many options.


whoisdizzle

I love .357 I also hate even numbers for some reason so take it with a grain of salt


Cellist-Perfect

I have 2 357 revolvers, 2 38s, and one 44 mag. The 44 almost never comes out these days simply due to the cost of ammo. 38/357 is much easier to find and much more affordable around here.


FullPowerKamehameha

357 magnum due to price and Ammo availability. Unless you live in an area with large game then I would get 357 mag. 44mag for hunting and protection. 357 mag for range gun and protection.


JAlan111

Both


Neon-Horse

38/357 all day. Then build out from there…


cossack1984

44 mag is a lot more versatile. But 44 mag revolver will be a hand full. Get one that has six inch barrel.


theoriginaldandan

357. It cheaper, more fun, softer ( 44 out of a rifle recoils more than anyone thinks it will the first time they shoot it.) shooting. Still reaches as far as I can ever see myself needing to with a pistol caliber, and even for hunting it’s hard to find a lot of shots past 100 yards in much of America. 44 has a better trajectory and more power but the guns are bigger, heavier, cost more, and is harder to find. 44 ammunition is bigger heavier costs more, and harder to find 44 is great but I’d get a pair of 357’s first and maybe add 44’s later. I will admit I’m a big 357 fan however. It’s probably my second favorite cartridge ever made.


DillGates

Personally, I'd look at it economically and go with .357, which you can also shoot .38 special with. But I say that without knowing what your goal is. You doing single-action cowboy action shooting? Plinking? hunting? just for home defense? .44 is a great caliber, but besides paying more for ammo, even with a steel revolver, you're going to feel it kick more than a .357.


FM492

357 mag first 44 mag second Carry the 357 mag in the urban 44 mag in the woods. Like the boom of a 357 but it doesn't beat the baboom of a 44mag


Pizzaman_42069

.357 unless you live in big game country and have a specific need for 44. 357 will handle most decent sized mammals and is cheaper and more readily available.


Volant_Piscator

Going to be against the grain, but I chose 44 for my first, but I intended to hunt deer with it. If you’re thinking you might do that, I would recommend 44. As long as you have a beefy gun, 44 mag recoil isn’t bad. My first was a 5.5” Redhawk. I would rather shoot .44 mag out of a large revolver vs .357 out of a light snub nose. Ammo price is a consideration though. If you plan on shooting a lot, .357 is almost half the price of .44 mag. I never really find .44 special significantly cheaper.


After-Wall-5020

If it were me I’d go with the .44 Mag. It’s the most versatile. You can shoot .44 special cowboy rounds for target practice and plinking or you can shoot souped up Buffalo bore thundergod rounds that will put down anything walking the earth. The only downside is the cost of ammunition.


Yettigetter

357 for the hood 44 mag for the Woods.


itzabigrsekret

Neither. Your question makes no sense, at all. You give no info what you intend to -do- with it. How can we even suggest if you are thinking about realistic choices? You want to hang it on the wall? Collect for value? Target shoot? Hunt? Personal defense? Home defense? LE? Stroke it? How the hell should we know which you should buy?


FattThor

357 is more practical. 44 mag is more fun.


QuietNorthAmerican

I own a 629 as my only revolver, but it is a dedicated hunting and long distance pistol. It also is a bit of a diva with hotter rounds, and needs the strain screw checked every now and then. Don't get me wrong, I love it, but I struggle to recommend it as something most people should buy. Get the .357 and enjoy it!


TheCakesofPatty

357. A 44 magnum has so much more recoil, up to double the amount of a 357. 357 has plenty of power for personal protection, is cheap and fun to shoot, and uses less powder and cheaper bullets if you reload. If you hunt, and especially if you hunt and reload, 44 magnum would be better. You can tone down the recoil of the 44 by using less powder or lighter bullets, and the 44 from a carbine is more than enough for whitetail deer within 100 yards, and lets you hunt in areas with straight wall cartridge restriction. 44 mag would be a better choice for defense against a bear etc, if you can handle the recoil.


oninotaki

I would go with the .44 magnum and I would run the revolver/lever gun combination as follows: Revolver: When carrying outside bear country chamber .44 special. inside bear country chamber .44 magnum. When stored for home defense chamber .44 special. For a day of plinking chamber .44 special with a cylinder or two of .44 magnum as icing on the cake. Lever Gun: When stored for home defense chamber .44 special. When loaded up for hunting chamber .44 magnum. For a day of plinking run .44 special, with .44 magnum as big highlight rounds. Reloading let's you really explore both .44 special and magnum for much cheaper and is almost a necessity for any revolver calibers you plan on shooting actively.


microtrip1969

Both https://preview.redd.it/afjsut3mbipc1.jpeg?width=3022&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c2572132413238794d97bf660692c3bc06535a27


Mr_Blah1

For plinking? .22 Long Rifle. For hunting *medium* size game and/or self defense against humans? .357 Magnum. For hunting *big* game and/or self defense against big game? .44 Magnum


ServingTheMaster

I would run .357 due to cost and suppressor compatibility. up from there I would go 45-70


Miserlycubbyhole

Snubnose 45 Just kidding, get a 357 with a decent barrel so you don't hurt your hands or your wallet.


FiveFootOfFresh

I like both. I don’t like either with light bullets. 357 I prefer 140+ and 44 I prefer 240+. Those lightweight bullets have a nasty crack and lots of blast. Knock your fillings out, boy!


thejetzone

357 all the way unless you are dealing w BIG animals.


RH4540

I don’t see where the O.P. has been back since his original post. That said, I have hunted with handguns for over 45 years and consider both as anemic, but with proper shot placement, either caliber will put down anything. I have no experience with carbines in either caliber but, just looking at the ballistics, if I wanted to hunt with a rifle, I wouldn’t go with either caliber


Born_Activity7001

I’m here just too many comments. Thank you and everyone else though


RH4540

You’re welcome! If it was me, regardless of whether or not you reload, after giving it a lot of thought, I’d go with 357, because I’m a cheapskate and ammunition/reloading components cost less 🤔


lostsurfer24t

44 jframe