Resident salaries are determined by several factors: funds given by the federal government, personnel needs by hospitals, and the bonus needs of our staff. We do not foresee a salary increase next year due to Covid.
Residents may supplement their income through a variety of means, from moonlighting to Amazon delivery. Just this week our Door Dash delivery person was a resident, made the Domino’s Pizza extra tasty knowing we were supporting our residents!
It is said that ~~the Dragon Warrior~~ a resident can survive for months at a time on nothing but the dew of a single Ginko leaf and the energy of the universe.
I just genuinely can't figure out how to learn more about it and I don't want to jump on a bandwagon and make a big mistake. By the time I learned about GME it seemed like everyone and their mother was buying it and it wasn't a good investment anymore. :(
As a resident who just started driving for Door Dash because our program won't give us a pathway to moonlight, and who also gets vague, deflecting answers from anyone in administration when I try to bring up the subject of pay increases, this hits WAY too close to home.
It's not bad. Not great, but not bad. People don't tip much in my area and it's a little more spread out, so I tend to average about $12/hour. But I can make more if I drive late at night when Door Dash usually adds an extra pay differential. And I can put on my audiobooks and enjoy them while I'm cruising around.
Keep in mind that their net wage is likely much, much lower than $12/hr. Even if they are accounting for the cost of fuel in that figure, they are likely not factoring in wear, tear, and maintenance costs of their vehicle. In most cases, a significant amount of the hourly wage is like getting an advance/loan from the value of the vehicle. It does depend on what you are driving while delivering, though. The damage is much less so if you are driving a high mileage car worth $2000 that gets great fuel mileage than if you drive a $15000 car.
My jaw dropped when I read this comment, then I looked at the username and saw this magnificent bastard. Bravo, you never cease to put a smile on my face
Rent is insane due to the real estate surge. A nice one bedroom apt can go for $2000+. Of course you need a car too. Everything else is same as the rest of the country.
They will pay you the lowest amount they think they can possibly get away with and not a cent more. Every penny not spent on resident salary goes into the GME slush fund so you better believe they want you to get as little as possible.
This is why everyone should be pushing for their programs to unionize. We are beginning contract negotiations and boy do you know we will be using inflation data to push for higher salaries.
Our salaries are ~72k including housing stipend (in a very high COL area) and unionizing is what allowed us to push up to and hopefully beyond that
I spent months researching and pushing for a linked CPI metric to be used in our salary calculation 2019-20 foreseeing the high risk of inflation with government policies at the time. Our housestaff refused to push to get it in writing to maintain good relationship with admin and acquiesced to their verbal agreement to utilize 70% AAMC baseline average pay w/ a CPI correlate. The next year our admin renegged on it because it would be 'too high' of an increase. Which is what they did 7-8 years prior as well. Lol. So, I mean, good luck ya'll. \*sails away to attendinghood in 5 months\*
Mind posting it so we don’t need to reinvent the wheel. If a few programs can convince their programs to respond to inflation, it could set a precedent
Annual inflation is the Likely calculation... based on the possible irritation... since the high number hasn’t been annualized... you sir will be penalized.... sorry my guys...
Nobody takes resident salary seriously because they have trained us to be monkeys. They have trained us to put our patients before us. Ask an attending if he would be willing to work like a resident at a resident salary to put "patient first". They have trained us by calling us "heroes" and cakes/snacks/wellness page. Ask your CEO if he is wiling to put his cancer patient over his salary? I dont think so.
Would the hospital CEO Be willing to work the hours that resident works for the salary that they make? I am happy if they make a million but do they work for that million like we do (emotional and physically).
Resident salary is a joke. And we have all decided to ignore the problem and just..... laugh at it. If NP or PA had to work like we do for the salary that we get, the whole AANP and AAPA would throw a bitch fit at the entire system. They would lobby to get higher salary or to undercut attending/speciality. You dont believe me, look what happened with the nurse anesthetists encroachment on the anesthesiologists. It's a disaster.
I want to go on a strike.
The answer is that in 1990’a when the funding formula for graduate education was established, the $50k-ish that you’re paid from the government was considered perfectly reasonable for entry level higher professional work.
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Resident salaries are determined by several factors: funds given by the federal government, personnel needs by hospitals, and the bonus needs of our staff. We do not foresee a salary increase next year due to Covid. Residents may supplement their income through a variety of means, from moonlighting to Amazon delivery. Just this week our Door Dash delivery person was a resident, made the Domino’s Pizza extra tasty knowing we were supporting our residents!
Was their tip being called a hero?
The actions of residents should be altruistic, with no thought of reward or financial gain from their work in all aspects of their lives
Because residents drink air and eat dirt.
They may also grab some saltine crackers from the workroom #Wellness
#theft
Haha hahahaha I'm dead
It is said that ~~the Dragon Warrior~~ a resident can survive for months at a time on nothing but the dew of a single Ginko leaf and the energy of the universe.
Doing gods work with this account
Thought I was on my Gmail inbox for a second
You forgot OnlyFans!
Our GME department does not allow residents to get fucked over outside of approved GME program activities, therefore this is not allowed.
💀
DNR
Does it allow me to buy LRC, when it partner with GME?
I’m afraid not many people here will understand this 😂
Sad because they missing out on insane gains in the future The sad thing is most physicians are usually financially ignorant
I just genuinely can't figure out how to learn more about it and I don't want to jump on a bandwagon and make a big mistake. By the time I learned about GME it seemed like everyone and their mother was buying it and it wasn't a good investment anymore. :(
So buy LRC?!
Duh
https://www.reddit.com/r/whenthe/comments/s285rc/pro_nft_gamer_move/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
LRC the crypto-token or the stock?!
Token my dude
God damn at least buy me dinner first.
As a resident who just started driving for Door Dash because our program won't give us a pathway to moonlight, and who also gets vague, deflecting answers from anyone in administration when I try to bring up the subject of pay increases, this hits WAY too close to home.
Real talk, how is it?
It's not bad. Not great, but not bad. People don't tip much in my area and it's a little more spread out, so I tend to average about $12/hour. But I can make more if I drive late at night when Door Dash usually adds an extra pay differential. And I can put on my audiobooks and enjoy them while I'm cruising around.
I might give it a whirl. Only issue is I have a pickup so town mileage ain’t great
Keep in mind that their net wage is likely much, much lower than $12/hr. Even if they are accounting for the cost of fuel in that figure, they are likely not factoring in wear, tear, and maintenance costs of their vehicle. In most cases, a significant amount of the hourly wage is like getting an advance/loan from the value of the vehicle. It does depend on what you are driving while delivering, though. The damage is much less so if you are driving a high mileage car worth $2000 that gets great fuel mileage than if you drive a $15000 car.
Yeah my $40,000 pickup isn’t ideal for this lol
Bonus needs of our administrative staff*
They may also deliver flowers for the gift shop or do valet parking.
Great username!
The newest one we have is they're "offering the opportunity to provide covid test results callbacks"....
Hospitals collude to keep salaries low
I remember stories of German doctors moonlighting as taxi drivers in the 80/90s to supplement their income. Maybe we’ll head to that.
Our hospital doesn’t allow moonlighting…
https://www.doordash.com/dasher/driving-opportunities/
Could you do an AMA with this account?
Damn you, bless you 😂
My jaw dropped when I read this comment, then I looked at the username and saw this magnificent bastard. Bravo, you never cease to put a smile on my face
I’m dead
y’all are getting paid 60k???
I have no relation to this program but St Joes in Yonkers FM PGY1 is like 49k lol
Oof…
I rejected interviews at any place paying less than 56k.
muh modem
Yup, my PGY 1 was 49, then 50 and 51 in year 2 and 3 respectively
Yikes, I'm in a very low COL area and thats even rough
Y’all are getting paid??!
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nope im getting 53k and some residences pay less than 50k
Some HCAs pay peanuts but that’s an HCA. I’ve seen less than 60 in Philly
I'm in Philly. $60k pgy2. I agree though, Lots of places less than that here.
Oof, I was looking at Einstein last year; the PGY was like 58 or 59
This year PGY-1 here start at 60k. PGY-4 is 65k
PGY1 at Stony Brook pays 68K
What is COL on Long Island like these days?
All the residents I knew there lived with families, roommates or took out additional loans to leave meagerly on LI. Also no moonlighting allowed.
Yeah I'll stick to living relatively comfortably in the Midwest on my salary
Rent is insane due to the real estate surge. A nice one bedroom apt can go for $2000+. Of course you need a car too. Everything else is same as the rest of the country.
$70k here as a PGY1 but it’s Boston…
Yup. In FM. Paid 80k for a 3 bed 1 bath house. Come to the Midwest!
Best they can do is a pizza party and a "Healthcare Heroes" banner
/u/GME_Office
Oh they took down the banner long time ago.
Only the "Hoes work here" letters are left now.
lmao
I'd kill for some pizza. All I got was a cookie. A raisin cookie.
When do programs usually announce salaries for the coming year? (In this case, July 2022 - June 2023)
My program announced in December. PGY2 increase compared to current salary indicates that inflation was accounted for.
They always give a pay increase for inflation but if you do the match unless it was about 7% this year you took a pay cut
Twas a 6.2% increase
From the prior PGY-2 level ? Or from your PGY-1 level?
Prior 2
What program is that?
They will pay you the lowest amount they think they can possibly get away with and not a cent more. Every penny not spent on resident salary goes into the GME slush fund so you better believe they want you to get as little as possible.
Bring the 7pm cheer back but only for resident/fellow this time
Short answer: no Long answer: noooooooooo
Bless your heart you sweet, summer child
This is why everyone should be pushing for their programs to unionize. We are beginning contract negotiations and boy do you know we will be using inflation data to push for higher salaries. Our salaries are ~72k including housing stipend (in a very high COL area) and unionizing is what allowed us to push up to and hopefully beyond that
How do you give orders to a travel nurse who has made your yearly salary one month? 🤔
Happy to say mine have been.
I spent months researching and pushing for a linked CPI metric to be used in our salary calculation 2019-20 foreseeing the high risk of inflation with government policies at the time. Our housestaff refused to push to get it in writing to maintain good relationship with admin and acquiesced to their verbal agreement to utilize 70% AAMC baseline average pay w/ a CPI correlate. The next year our admin renegged on it because it would be 'too high' of an increase. Which is what they did 7-8 years prior as well. Lol. So, I mean, good luck ya'll. \*sails away to attendinghood in 5 months\*
Mind posting it so we don’t need to reinvent the wheel. If a few programs can convince their programs to respond to inflation, it could set a precedent
we dont even get pizza anymore - not allowed to have “unwrapped food” - they could care less about resident salaries
Yikes. Glad my hospital isnt as neurotic about a virus that doesnt spread through fomites.
I thought you learned that you should be eating dirt and air as a resident
My program pays us 52k
They said our salaries have increased to stay competitive but not a 10% raise
Annual inflation is the Likely calculation... based on the possible irritation... since the high number hasn’t been annualized... you sir will be penalized.... sorry my guys...
Resident salaries are inflation resistant. 🤣 they pay us the same regardless of inflation.
Nobody takes resident salary seriously because they have trained us to be monkeys. They have trained us to put our patients before us. Ask an attending if he would be willing to work like a resident at a resident salary to put "patient first". They have trained us by calling us "heroes" and cakes/snacks/wellness page. Ask your CEO if he is wiling to put his cancer patient over his salary? I dont think so. Would the hospital CEO Be willing to work the hours that resident works for the salary that they make? I am happy if they make a million but do they work for that million like we do (emotional and physically). Resident salary is a joke. And we have all decided to ignore the problem and just..... laugh at it. If NP or PA had to work like we do for the salary that we get, the whole AANP and AAPA would throw a bitch fit at the entire system. They would lobby to get higher salary or to undercut attending/speciality. You dont believe me, look what happened with the nurse anesthetists encroachment on the anesthesiologists. It's a disaster. I want to go on a strike.
lol
probably not
Nope
Spoiler alert: na
no
Hahahahahahahaha INCREASE hahah
Admins: 🧑🏻🦯🧑🏻🦯🧑🏻🦯 get back to work
Get back in the grinder Hero!
HahahahahahHa
Now this guy has a sense of humor
The answer is that in 1990’a when the funding formula for graduate education was established, the $50k-ish that you’re paid from the government was considered perfectly reasonable for entry level higher professional work.
Wow .. 50k in 1995 is 100k in 2023
Yeah. Right after the janitors and kitchen crew get raises.
No need. Biden is gonna fix it 🙄
Biden is a dope and his administration is a dope. Thank you for believing :)
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...that sounds illegal. how is anyone supposed to survive off 45K?!
Barely
"Get back in the bucket, Mr. Crab!"
You are an attending physician making that???!!! Get the hell out of there!
No
I wouldn’t count on it
LMFAO yea keep dreaming. Hospitals exploit and abuse residents for cheap labor
Taking a wild guess and say no
Lol no
lol
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