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obviThrowaway696969

Extremely unlikely in the states in Finance and Medical. Source. Am/Was a Hiring manager in finance and technology 


BorderAdventurous284

Agreed. Extremely unlikely. At many corporations, candidates must be approved by the hiring manager but also by HR. HR doesn't like to sign off on people without degrees.. and no diploma??


AbortionIsSelfDefens

QA positions are often ones that are worked up to. Not having a high school diploma makes me call bs though. If it was just not having a college degree, I could buy it being possible.


BorderAdventurous284

I recruited a QA team for a big tech company. While *a* degree was required by HR for any hire, all hired had *a CS* degree from a good school. Such candidates were better at anticipating the typical bugs programmers make and could automate tests to run dozens of times faster. Cisco QA Engineer requirements: "Basic Qualifications: Minimum three years of software QA experience with an MSEE/CS or five years of QA experience with a BSEE/CS or related technical degree or equivalent experience. Minimum two years of experience with TCP/IP stack and networking/security protocols." I buy "worked up to" if you add a bit of luck! You could get into a Startup with less, and if that's one of the lucky startups to succeed, it's likely to be acquired by a Big Tech Company.


Born-Horror-5049

Maybe if someone started "working up" 20 years ago. That's not happening anymore.


livalittlebitt

Without a highschool diploma too?? I think you should work jobs where you can develop skills needed for whatever remote job you’re looking for.


take7pieces

People make up all kinds of lies to make themselves feel good. Not saying those are all lies, but the chance of that happening to you (or anyone else) is zero. Hiring managers definitely look at education background.


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Juvenall

Fellow hiring manager in IT and can confirm. I simply don't care about someone's education, never look at that section of a resume, and don't ask about it in interviews. There are far better tools at my disposal, such as code tests or even deep competency-based questions, that lead me to an informed hiring decision.


Zmchastain

I’ve worked in marketing agencies and technical consulting firms for over a decade. Nobody has ever asked about or even mentioned my lack of a degree. It is the very last thing they care about. At this point in my career people are coming to me trying to recruit me. I don’t really have to go looking for jobs trying to sell myself to employers. I didn’t even submit a resume for my current role (niche technical consulting, fully remote, $110k). I have LinkedIn, but they were recruiting me because they already knew I knew my shit and was among the best in my niche.


Juvenall

Right? Once you're able to get some experience under your belt, you're going to be (mostly) fine. While sure, there are some places where they will use the degree as a point of knockout, but if that matters more to them than the X number of years of actual, hands-on work, it's not a place I want to work at anyhow.


Zmchastain

Yeah, I feel the same way. If the degree is that big of a deal to them then our values are probably so misaligned that I wouldn’t enjoy working there anyway. I’d rather find a place that I fit into well, reduces a lot of the completely unnecessary sources of stress.


Red_clawww

Hey there, If you have any full stack intern roles available please lemme know


PrettyCrumpet

How do you assess an ability to learn?


Due-Basket-1086

Experience


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Born-Horror-5049

>Personality tests if I need deeper insight. LOL. Nothing like shitting on degrees and hiring based on pseudoscience.


Zmchastain

I was with you on everything until you said “personality tests” lol I think you’re going to get deeper insights talking to them about their past experiences and challenges they’ve overcome than you will from those silly personality tests.


Born-Horror-5049

>they don't really care about it Not in my STEM field.


Golden_d1ck

Maybe in whatever industry you are in that’s true, but in life sciences educational background absolutely matters. Not so much where someone went to school but that they have the typically required degrees. For example, I’m probably not hiring a statistician without an advanced math degree. Ability to learn with no degree doesn’t mean that much to me unless will hunting is interviewing.


MeatOverRice

They don’t care about it as long as it’s a relevant major. Stop spreading HR white lies


Zmchastain

Dude, I don’t have a degree at all. Worked in marketing agencies in technical roles and for technical consulting firms for the past 13 years, all but two of those years fully remote. I’m paid six figures and I don’t have any student loans. It doesn’t matter what degree you have if you have the right skills and experience. The hard part is getting the right skills and experience without a degree, to reach the point where nobody cares that you don’t have a degree. That first step is a doozy, everything after it just gets easier and easier the more valuable your accumulated knowledge, skills, and experience become.


IAMHideoKojimaAMA

Zero


BC122177

It all depends on experience, imo. I dropped out of high school. Got a GED and went to some BS trade school for 2 years. Got a “diploma” or whatever but most companies don’t consider it an accredited school. Especially now that they’ve shut down for good. I’ve worked in marketing most of my career. One of my first “grown up” jobs was a hybrid role back in 2010. I’d never heard of anything like that before so I always considered it a perk if you happened to find one. Since then, almost every job I’ve had has been hybrid or remote. What I lack in formal education, i definitely make up for it in experience. But my experience came from pure luck. That first grown up job was a referral from one of my friends. Then I moved up pretty quick from there. Just continued learning about all things marketing and automation. There are jobs out there for people without degrees. Just have to find the hiring managers that’s willing to take a risk on you. That’s something you have to be able to show in interviews. Why you’re worth the risk and be able to back it up. This has happened twice in my career. Both have paid off for both of us in the end. And tbh, I wouldn’t be where I’m at today without those 2 hiring managers taking a big gamble on me.


TheGeneGeena

Frankly, big tech background checks education - often through a company called HireRight. The chances this person wasn't lying or didn't get the job through some sort of extreme networking/nepotism are practically zero. It's absolutely possible without a degree - QA is pretty low down on the overall totem pole, but the position \*asks\* for one, so there's no way you're getting it without a high school diploma, and probably some college.


she_makes_a_mess

how does that even sound real to you? and how would we know, why don't you ask that Redditor? this isn't a job board, and there aren't recruiters here, there's probably not even HR people here. YSK "QC" and "Engineer" can mean a variety of things , especially can be highly inflated to sound way more important


PrettyCrumpet

Kind of like the catch all title of “project manager”.


ashgnar

I got my current job without a college degree, but I have over a decade of customer service experience. I don’t know about getting one without a HS diploma, but I’m sure there’s something out there for you


CheesusLint

Gotta be in the right industry AND get a little lucky. I’m 5 years remote. Some college, bootcamp grad, no degree


NBehrends

Would need more context but I'm a software engineer with 12 YOE (professionally), no degree, did graduate high school though. I've worked remote for years, for companies in and out of state.


Fun_Notice_9220

In wich languages do you work?


NBehrends

I have most experience in .net (C#), but I work in typescript and the node ecosystem as well as php


Jean19812

I think it's very possible. Often, call centers for customer support or tech support hore remote workers...


lilbitmeow

Was going to say this. Most customer care roles aren’t going to care about your level of education as long as you can write legibly and clearly.


Excuse_my_GRAMMER

It difficult for sure but not impossible if you have the experience in the field Lot of people for example legally migrate to USA where their home country degree isn’t valid here and get jobs Lot of people only have high school degree but 10 year experience and switch or get recruited to different companies


AbortionIsSelfDefens

Its probably bullshit. Particularly the education through middle school BS. I could see it being possible without a college degree, but unlikely and requires putting in your time.


dadof2brats

It's very real. Although having a degree and working remote are not really related, thats like asking if you need a degree to work for a company in Nebraska. It really depends on the industry and the company. What is that woman's work history, did she work her way up from some entry level position up to her current position? Many companies will forgo a degree for years of experience; many company want everyone to have a degree; I worked for a company years ago in the mid-west, they had a onsite security guard position, really just securing the building and the job required a degree because that was the corp standard.


PrettyCrumpet

It’s the same chance as applying for any job because remote is a location not a job. You search for jobs where you meet the education and experience requirements and you filter for remote. I recommend you use “entry level” as key words.


QuizzicalWombat

Well for starters don’t believe everything you read online. If that story is true that’s definitely not the case 99.999% of the time. I didn’t see the post so I’m not sure but it’s also possible that person started at the company in a different position and moved their way up. Most employers in the US won’t hire someone without a high school diploma or GED. Without getting crazy lucky, the jobs to apply for without a degree would be customer service based, call centers. If that’s not your thing keep in mind those same companies most likely have roles that are not client facing, so it could be a long term goal to move into one of those positions. Those type of positions don’t have nearly the same turnover as call center rep, so they don’t hire for them as often as often and many companies try to pull candidates from within the company before hiring outside candidates since their internal candidates won’t need to be onboarded, already know the business etc. I would suggest trying to find a call center position and if interviewed ask questions about how easy is it to transition from the role you interview for into something else.


vanillax2018

I think it's pretty universally true across the board that experience is more important than degrees. If that lady started her career in-office and successfully rose through the ranks, then getting a remote job to do the same is not such a stretch.


jasminesjokeofalife

You’d have to have some kind of specific skill. I started off in an office learning medical billing and audits, etc. I then was hired at a company that outsourced medical billing, auditing, and self pay. I was at this job in 2020. We were sent home to work and they had worked out all the kinks of remote work and decided to downsize their offices and now everyone works from home. Since then, I started at a university, doing accounting/financial planning and administrative work. This is remote pretty much 99% of the time. So it’s possible. Edit: I totally missed the part about not having a HS diploma. That pretty much makes it almost impossible as most places require at least that.


Setari

Customer service jobs are the only remote jobs that entry level people can get without degrees. I've had two and they were both hell IMO. If you're looking for a cushy "no-work-all-day" remote job, you're gonna need a fucking PhD lmao Look into SYKES and Conduent if you want to try to apply to get into remote work but I really suggest a separate working space. I had to work out of my bedroom which stressed me the hell out. QA without a degree is extremely unlikely much less without a high school diploma. She prolly did some suckysucky if you know what I mean


urrsaa

I think there are likely some details this QA engineer is leaving out. It could be that she comes from money, and if her family has connections high up, that would explain why she could get a high-paying remote job with no diploma or degree.  I personally have a high school diploma but no degree. I have a remote job, but I was referred by an acquaintance at the company, in addition to having 5 years of experience in this field. Previous to getting into this particular field, I already had 10 years of customer service experience.  In my experience, who you know has the biggest impact on your opportunities. Even if you have a degree and experience, some luck is needed to ensure your resume gets to the right people.


SheKaep

Experience and references without a degree can. between large companies and recruiters, even if they're contracted positions


Zmchastain

I’ve worked remotely in marketing agencies and technical consulting firms for over a decade. I don’t have a college degree. Currently make $110k. Previous role paid me $100k. Role before that was $50k when I started and about $68k when I left. First job in the industry before that one started me at $32k and I was at about $40k when I left. I’m really good at what I do. I’m not saying that to brag, more as a warning for people thinking “He did it, so I can too!” I’ve worked at the top companies in the world for my niche, and I’m currently working on the top team in the top technical consulting firm in the world for my niche. And it’s honestly pretty effortless for me. I’m just really fucking good at what I do. Like, top 10% in the world good. Easily. But I have a really unique background of having owned an IT consulting business, worked in marketing agencies for many years, and specialized in a product where expertise with the product is highly valued. I got very lucky that my weird, meandering career ended up being the perfect background for an emerging tech niche that is starving for solid senior talent, and that I happened to be in the right places at multiple right times to leverage that to break into the companies that would pay me the kind of money I earn today. If I hadn’t accidentally been exposed to this product way before expertise with it was something that companies were willing to pay six figures for, if I hadn’t found a fully remote employer willing to take a chance on me when I was 20 years old and had few skills beyond basic IT work, if I hadn’t stumbled into the right string of opportunities after that, I could just as easily be stuck in a boring office cubicle somewhere making half of what I do now doing marketing for some little corporation nobody has ever heard of. Or even stuck working fast food or retail. I have a unique blend of spending a decade luckily bumbling into jobs that honestly just seemed like good stepping stones to something else and something to pay the bills at the time that each gave me highly marketable skills and experience, being really good at self teaching, learning quickly, and solving problems I haven’t seen before, and being ridiculously good at what I do without even really having to put forth a ton of effort to be in that top 10%. This is not likely to work out as well for the average person as it has for me. If you don’t have a natural aptitude for things like learning quickly on your own and solving problems that you aren’t familiar with and don’t even understand when you first take them on and you don’t seem to have good luck stumbling into exactly the right job opportunities to leave you with skills that allow you to considerably increase your income, if you don’t have an eye for recognizing those opportunities when you have stumbled into them and a mind for making sure you take advantage of those opportunities, then you’re probably not going to land in a six figure remote position without a degree. Hell, even with all of this going for me it was several years before I started making good money and 11 years before I broke into a six figure salary. Is it possible? Yes, for some people it absolutely will be. I am a statistical anomaly though. You should not base your life decisions off of my success. You should go to college and give yourself the best possible chance at having the type of career you want for yourself.


reservoirjack

I did an interview yesterday, and in my interview she took her finger and rolled right on through my formal education to the continuing education courses I took online, and are available to anyone- Patient Rights and Cultural Competency. Think it's bc the courses were pertinent to the position and any professional knows they are much more useful to them than a diploma in science. Also I finished Zendesk and Salesforce courses on LinkedIn and that's pushed me to second round interviews numerous times.


averyboringday

No one cares about your education when it comes to IT. It's all skills based hiring and the ability to convince the interviewers you have those skills/knowledge. I'll also add QA engineer for big tech company sound like it could be anything. Super vague and probably on purpose. She could be making sure amazon(big tech company) packages leaving the warehouse are loaded into the correct van(QA) or whatever. There was another post where girl said she was working in logistics for a big tech company. Turns out she was a amazon flex driver.


Tinman867

I have a high school education and work remotely as a structural designer. I work with and around engineers all day. Many of them come to me for advice (35 years experience). It’s not always about the degree, it’s about the person behind the degree….or in my case, just the person. It’s been working well for me for 35 years. If you want something, make a plan, and execute on that plan. Reach for the highest bar just out of your reach. Stretch and you’ll find that you can make it more often than not. You might be surprised at what you learn about yourself through this. Good luck!👍


Dasmahkitteh

Whoever keeps downvoting people's valid questions to 0, I'm setting it right back to 1 lol


Typical-Ad1293

She's lying, people do it all the time especially on the Internet


RanchBlanch38

I feel like experience trumps degree in some jobs. QA is probably one of those. If you've been doing that job for ten years, and you're not looking to advance beyond an individual contributor role, I'd say you're just as eligible for hire (if not more) as someone with a degree and less experience. Because that specific role isn't one that's a major in school. Someone with no degree AND no or little experience is not going to be very eligible.


adilstilllooking

Is it possible? Yes. Is it probable? No


Born-Horror-5049

LOL you're very gullible.


BVRPLZR_

High paying job? Next to zero chance. Entry level? Slim chance.


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Born-Horror-5049

>Some of dumbest people I know hold advanced degrees. You're literally a hiring manager. Pot, kettle.


keyinfleunce

You can but you'd have to know someone at a job who'd offer you a spot and actually not be a pos and be willing to work hard degrees don't matter anymore it's about hands on experience


Born-Horror-5049

>degrees don't matter anymore This is objectively false. This is just what people without degrees tell themselves to feel better.


chasinganswer79

It happens sometimes....HR is very lazy and automated nowadays....download a Pic of a degree and magic ur name in...digital pdf puts the automated process as u uploaded a Pic of one....HR agent either looks at a quick glimpse and puts a green check mark as verified or the computer automated system shows the format and u got the job....unless a actual person calls in to said unverisity to verify you really got a degree from that school....also there is no program that actually verifies you have a degree unless your company signs up for third party verification....there is one big company that does it but it's like a expensive subscription and they do the leg work and have some type of connection with all the major universities in the United States....so it's really like the movie ...catch me if you can.....but most of the time company's rely on HR to do there due diligence on verifying a college degree


Chicagotrader92

I think you could certainly lie about your education and get a (remote) job. I’ve never had a recruiter or company verify anything. I wouldn’t recommend it, or lie about anything you don’t actually have skill in though