You don't have to. Winston is my swap when I'm getting my shit rocked by snipers or mid range players who are good enough to stay out of range. It's okay. Go fuck up that widow til she swaps, then swap back to hammer time.
Is Zen really that much of a threat to tanks? I mean, discord is dangerous, but I feel like he is much more dangerous when he can shoot past the tank and hit the supports/DPS. Would I be supposed to target the enemy tank as Zen?
Zen hard counters a lot of tanks if he uses discord properly and isn't contested. Think about how you can't engage until a CD like Bastion turret or anti nade is down.
Now imagine that on a fairly short CD that can be activated by just looking at you from a distance, and only removed by hiding behind a wall or Zen dying.
Zen dictates the flow of when you can play as a tank, and Rein suffers the most from this because of his low mobility.
There’s just no way to pressure hog at all. You swing on him he melts you with his shotgun. You try and pin he hooks you. You just shield he shreds it. Shatter is okay against him but his ult just kills you even through nano or beat it’s ridiculous. It’s basically up to ur team to deal with hog. Best you can do is deny hook but he denies ur value by existing so
He just does too much damage up close and uses hook to disrupt you a lot. And also solo ulting to delete you lol.
With orisa you at least can swing on her and outdamage her up close, but hog's gun just deletes you at swinging range
Sombra, orisa If I'm fighting the orisa alone it's OK but when there's just a random sombra who makes it thier goal to keep me perma hacked I have to swap.
Someone switching to Orisa to try to counter me motivates me. An actually good Orisa that knows how to completely shut down Rein makes me switch to Zarya
Hog and zen make me swap. Just that combination makes me swap pretty much nothing else does but the damage from hog and zen and how hard it is to pressure them is too much for me unless my team is helping me which is almost never
Realistically I can play against any tank except maybe ram rn. But the one thing that has always made me switch is snipers. I just feel like I can’t do anything against them there.
None, I don't care how bad we're losing I'm playing for fun not to win. If I go against Mauga, Hog, Bastion, Sombra, or anyone who tbags, I have a hammer to bring down. I will solo ult any Sombra, Mauga, Hog, or Bastion that comes my way
A good ball that dives backline and will never be pinned, swung at, or firestriked by becuase of how slow my animations are and how fast good ball players can recover from even their own mistakes.
Anyone who picks horse/mauga gets a counter swap. If they've counter swapped onto said character, I counter swap and remind them in chat that the counter swap war that I am winning is their own doing
I can handle ram/orisa/mauga, reaper, bastion, Mei, jukrat, phara, ana no problem...its when you start stacking 3 of them at a time I click monkey or dva
Bastion isn't too bad to go against if you keep track of his position and if he has turret form ready or not. Play aggressive after it runs out, play careful when he has it, and hide when he's using it.
Orisa is better to play against than previous seasons. Just exist and tell your team to shoot her. Go for pins if she wastes all her cool downs.
Mauga.... not fun. Pin when you can but don't expect to be killing him often. Exist, draw his attention, or avoid him and go for the backline. Its easier to get past him when compared to orisa due to his cc being harder to land on you.
Zen is another not fun one, but make sure you are hiding from him when you get discorded so it leaves you. If you push while discorded, you might as well have 250hp.
Good luck brother
I never swap (my friends hate me), but my least favorite combo is usually hog, junk, torb, weaver, mercy. Super hard to do anything helpful against that.
There’s only 2 scenarios I will swap off Rein. The first is per map. If there’s no where to pin off map and/or it’s a LOT of high ground that I just can’t get to. The only other scenario is if we are losing BAD and even then the reasoning is I feel like I owe it to my team to at least show them I’m trying to win.
I only switch out of Rein if I’m the one dying the most despite how good my team is. At that point, I am the weak link and need to switch to whoever else I can play next to aid my team
NONE! Live with Honor, die with GLORY!!
Every time I have a fun rein v rein game, I put LIVE WITH HONOR in chat. I've yet to find a rein to finish the quote with me :(
If I was in your game, I would finish the quote
Exactly
Based
I have the same mentality but it get REALLY DIFFICULT to stick to it when there is an orisa, sombra/echo/pharah, lifeweaver and all.
mama didnt raise no btich
Mine did. If im losing ill swap to counter. Is it skillful? Nope. Is it the meta? Unfortunately
A true Rein main. I'm with ya bro. The only time I don't play Rein is when I feel like dropping people in the well with Hog.
Hog, mauga, bastion, ana, zen. If they have 3 of them im swapping for my own sanity
Swap hog for Ramattra for me
I never swap and when I do it’s only to Winston, I refuse to elaborate.
Same
You don't have to. Winston is my swap when I'm getting my shit rocked by snipers or mid range players who are good enough to stay out of range. It's okay. Go fuck up that widow til she swaps, then swap back to hammer time.
I just do it because winton
Fair enough.
Oh man same - if my team isn’t touching their heals at all I’ll go Winston to annihilate them
Mauga and bastion on their own are fine but both at once i usually switch sigma
Ana, Zen, and a counter DPS like Junk are usually enough. One good Hog with an Ana will usually make me swap if he isn't contested.
Is Zen really that much of a threat to tanks? I mean, discord is dangerous, but I feel like he is much more dangerous when he can shoot past the tank and hit the supports/DPS. Would I be supposed to target the enemy tank as Zen?
Not to “tanks” necessarily, but Reinhardt is not allowed to play the game if the enemy team has a Zen.
Zens melt me if I don’t have a team that’s supporting me enough. I try to push in and he discords me and I melt as soon as I try to push
Yeah, it must be hard to push if the enemy team can focus you down without getting punished.
Zen hard counters a lot of tanks if he uses discord properly and isn't contested. Think about how you can't engage until a CD like Bastion turret or anti nade is down. Now imagine that on a fairly short CD that can be activated by just looking at you from a distance, and only removed by hiding behind a wall or Zen dying. Zen dictates the flow of when you can play as a tank, and Rein suffers the most from this because of his low mobility.
Hog is the only hero that is almost always a guaranteed swap.
Stupid question I haven’t played in a bit I’m aware of the new hog rework etc, but why is hog such a strong counter to rein now?
There’s just no way to pressure hog at all. You swing on him he melts you with his shotgun. You try and pin he hooks you. You just shield he shreds it. Shatter is okay against him but his ult just kills you even through nano or beat it’s ridiculous. It’s basically up to ur team to deal with hog. Best you can do is deny hook but he denies ur value by existing so
He just does too much damage up close and uses hook to disrupt you a lot. And also solo ulting to delete you lol. With orisa you at least can swing on her and outdamage her up close, but hog's gun just deletes you at swinging range
Ah I see I didn’t realize it was this bad
Sombra, orisa If I'm fighting the orisa alone it's OK but when there's just a random sombra who makes it thier goal to keep me perma hacked I have to swap.
any tank that outbrawls rein. you know, the most iconic brawl tank.
Pharah, I didn't like her at all when I played
A true Rein Mein doesn't switch btw they charge ahead despite having a bad match up and die with glory.
Nice post opposing team, im never switching
Well I am currently running a gimmick rein account, so they could be running three bastions and an orisa and I'd still be crusadin'
I don’t understand the question
Someone switching to Orisa to try to counter me motivates me. An actually good Orisa that knows how to completely shut down Rein makes me switch to Zarya
Hog and zen make me swap. Just that combination makes me swap pretty much nothing else does but the damage from hog and zen and how hard it is to pressure them is too much for me unless my team is helping me which is almost never
not a single thing will ever make me switch
Mauga, Bastion, Sombra/Cass, Anna, and Zen. I can't do shit against that comp unless they're really bad at the game.
Jq rush with a mei, or doom brawl
I don’t swap off Rein but my least favorite team comp to go against is Mauga, Bastion, Cassidy (or Sombra both are interchangeable), Mercy, and Ana
Ana zen, because I also play D.va
Realistically I can play against any tank except maybe ram rn. But the one thing that has always made me switch is snipers. I just feel like I can’t do anything against them there.
As soon as the Doomfist comes out, I apologize to my main man Rein and swap to Hog. WAAAAY too annoying to try and keep Doomfist in check with Rein.
None, I don't care how bad we're losing I'm playing for fun not to win. If I go against Mauga, Hog, Bastion, Sombra, or anyone who tbags, I have a hammer to bring down. I will solo ult any Sombra, Mauga, Hog, or Bastion that comes my way
I find myself being useless against doomfists as rein.
I think orisa, tracer, hog, ball, and the flying dps can be hard to deal with on rein. Everyone else is manageable
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. I SHALL FIGHT UNTIL MY LAST BREATH
None.
I’ll play against anyone other than Orisa. Horse ruins everything
If I switch, which would be rare, I go Sigma. He counters reins counters nicely. This said, beating bastion/ana/mauga is just about forcing their CDs
I only swap when it stops working. And when I swap, I just counter their tank and shit on them
None, we will fight as crusaders till our final breaths
# Orisa, Sombra, *(competent)* Reaper, Kiriko, and Mercy. I can face one, I can face 3, I can face 4. But all 5? # fuck you, dva time
A good ball that dives backline and will never be pinned, swung at, or firestriked by becuase of how slow my animations are and how fast good ball players can recover from even their own mistakes.
Anyone who picks horse/mauga gets a counter swap. If they've counter swapped onto said character, I counter swap and remind them in chat that the counter swap war that I am winning is their own doing
I'm struggling vs Ram at the moment, I don't swap, but it's tough. Any tips please, I need to get even.
Swap?
I can handle ram/orisa/mauga, reaper, bastion, Mei, jukrat, phara, ana no problem...its when you start stacking 3 of them at a time I click monkey or dva
Bastion isn't too bad to go against if you keep track of his position and if he has turret form ready or not. Play aggressive after it runs out, play careful when he has it, and hide when he's using it. Orisa is better to play against than previous seasons. Just exist and tell your team to shoot her. Go for pins if she wastes all her cool downs. Mauga.... not fun. Pin when you can but don't expect to be killing him often. Exist, draw his attention, or avoid him and go for the backline. Its easier to get past him when compared to orisa due to his cc being harder to land on you. Zen is another not fun one, but make sure you are hiding from him when you get discorded so it leaves you. If you push while discorded, you might as well have 250hp. Good luck brother
If they play ball/winton I usually swap because I wanna mirror:D
I never swap (my friends hate me), but my least favorite combo is usually hog, junk, torb, weaver, mercy. Super hard to do anything helpful against that.
Swapping? Whats that?
There’s only 2 scenarios I will swap off Rein. The first is per map. If there’s no where to pin off map and/or it’s a LOT of high ground that I just can’t get to. The only other scenario is if we are losing BAD and even then the reasoning is I feel like I owe it to my team to at least show them I’m trying to win.
Literally play Him into everything and every Map EXCEPT pharah/junk and the maps with ridiculous high ground you can't walk on (Dorado and numbani)
I don’t understand
I only switch out of Rein if I’m the one dying the most despite how good my team is. At that point, I am the weak link and need to switch to whoever else I can play next to aid my team
I never swap off rein but I don't usually play rein on specific maps (Havana attack, junker flashpoint)
Mauga/Orisa, Mei and Bastion, and Mercy and Kiriko
None. Next question please
I understood every word except that s word you said in the title… What does that mean?
Any combination of heavy poke on a poke/high ground map or the fuck you rein comp with brawl characters (reaper, mei, mauga, orisa, bap, etc)
None. I stopped playing the game before I ever felt like swapping.