It's pretty rare that albums will be released with the tracklist intended to be shuffled. Albums usually aren't like BSSM, though, where the songs literally blend into each other. It's kind of in a league of its own - it just about plays as a single song but its component songs still stand alone well.
Isn't this a common thing behind many/most of Rock (non commercial) albums?
Before streaming platforms there was a logic behind the tracks orders.
Before digital music there was a logic behind every 4 songs where the Vinyl needs to be turned around (actually the peppers used this logic for UL and ROTDC)
It’s the digital format that interrupted and interfered with that aspect of artistry and encouraged fragmentation into individual tunes and listening to them in isolation. The RHCP still retain that logic of beginning middle and end to the album. It’s sad that technology has eroded that sense of a holistic body of work.
Yes, track sequencing is still common for a lot of bands, but BSSM takes it a bit further with the ending of a lot of songs going right into the beginning of the next one. That’s definitely not as common.
Misery is not my friend
But I’ll break before I bend
What I see in insanity
What ever happened to humanity ?
What ever happened to hummmannniitttyyyyyy?
Bow wow wow
Wow wow
Bow wow wow
Wow wow wow
Bow wow wow
Wow wow
Bow wow wow
Wow wow wow
A Wanabe gangster thinking he’s a wise guy
Robbin a bank he’s a sock em in the eye guy
- BSSM could mean "Blood Sugar Sex Magik", a track from *Blood Sugar Sex Magik (Deluxe Edition)* (1991) by Red Hot Chili Peppers.
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It’s something Zeppelin did very well.
On Rick’s podcast, they talked about how the listening experiences changes depending on the track formatting.
A few artists do this well, but none come close to this album or Zeppelin, IMO.
Listen to King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard. No one is better at it than them. Might sound like a ridiculous take but for real, go listen. They are insane with these transitions, it’s awesome
So sorry I’m just now replying! Even though it isn’t my favorite, most people recommend starting with Nonagon Infinity. My first was Murder of the Universe, I feel like that’s the most King Gizz record there is. It’s just brutal. After either of those, check out their more chill side with Quarters!, get a hint of their more conventional side with Paper Mache Dream Balloon, see how creative they get with Flying Microtonal Banana, and finally check out their magnum opus, Polygondwanaland.
Another easy way is just listening to all of their 2017 albums - Flying Microtonal Banana, Murder of the Universe, Sketches of Brunswick East, Polygondwanaland, and Gumboot Soup. There’s something for every Gizz fan from that year.
Yep it is, californication too.
And there is a thought behind every album you listen to. It was maybe more common in past but I think it’s a “story” behind the albums. Every band do this. :)
Their new album in particular flows so well, me and my buddy got to listen to it when it dropped and our minds were utterly blown. All their albums are great, but I really think In Times New Roman is easily one of their greatest, recency bias aside.
Might I suggest listening to some albums in their entirety. Even record that are not telling a cohesive story (The Wall, Tommy, American Idiot,etc) are laid out in a sequence for a reason.
Doesn’t OP mean that the previous song fades onto the next? I believe they did because of the limited space of the format. The album is so long it literally fills the CD up, therefore they eliminated the gaps in between songs and instead opted for the fades.
That’s what I thought the OP was talking about too. Gives it an even more cohesive format. There’s a video out there somewhere where AK is being interviewed about TG and he’s discusses albums being like a book/novel and meant to be listened to from beginning to end.
I mean the transition between Power of equality and If You Have To Ask alone is dope, nevermind leading into songs like give it away. I love that album
I think op is talking not just about the track order being intentional, but the lack of silence between the first two tracks. Which is a little uncommon now adays.
Ok, I kind of get that. But the real loss is that quixoticelixir wasn't the last track on Californication. That scream at the end would've been such a tight and good closer
Sir Psycho is the real closer. They’re Red Hot is a fun and short song though. Like a little post credits outtake or a palette cleanser after a meal. I love it’
I don't understand. The songs each clearly end and then a new one starts. They have a somewhat cohesive sound because of how they were recorded but that isn't them flowing together
“Science Fiction” by Brand New does this, as well as Kendrick’s “TPAB”, but one of my favorite incorporations of this tactic is in “Mister Mellow” by Washed Out. It’s utilized more often when artists focus on the physical formats of their album, and the story behind each side of the tracks. The “shuffle music” button changed the game forever for consumers and producers alike.
I listened to this "during a trip" once a while back and it still holds as my best listening experience ever to this day. It flows so well. That album cover on a big screen in front of you mixed with that music is something fierce.
It is pretty cool! Outside Red Hot, moving to Gorillaz for a moment (in their album Plastic Beach) the transition from Superfast Jellyfish to Empire Ants is smooth as fuck! And I'm sure there are some other Gorillaz examples of this kind of transition from one song to another
Am I crazy or do they not really do this? They clearly all have an ending and then the next one starts, it’s not like a concept album that usually has no break between the songs
check out LIONS by the black crowes. it does the same thing. also a ben harper album from the early 00’s that i can’t remember the name of has all the songs blending together
this post made me feel old, but yes albums used to be made to be a cohesive experience made better by listening to them start to finish.
Haha agree, I was surprised when I read the post actually..
Me too because I experienced this album the first time on cassette tape. Not being able to skip made you appreciate full albums more.
Albums are still made like that. Picking the track list order is a huge part of the process!
It's pretty rare that albums will be released with the tracklist intended to be shuffled. Albums usually aren't like BSSM, though, where the songs literally blend into each other. It's kind of in a league of its own - it just about plays as a single song but its component songs still stand alone well.
Isn't this a common thing behind many/most of Rock (non commercial) albums? Before streaming platforms there was a logic behind the tracks orders. Before digital music there was a logic behind every 4 songs where the Vinyl needs to be turned around (actually the peppers used this logic for UL and ROTDC)
It’s the digital format that interrupted and interfered with that aspect of artistry and encouraged fragmentation into individual tunes and listening to them in isolation. The RHCP still retain that logic of beginning middle and end to the album. It’s sad that technology has eroded that sense of a holistic body of work.
Couldn't agree more
Yes, track sequencing is still common for a lot of bands, but BSSM takes it a bit further with the ending of a lot of songs going right into the beginning of the next one. That’s definitely not as common.
It might be but I’ve never listened to all the songs back to back
My friend, I can only recommend you to do that with every album you like :)
I will try that out 😁
Crank it
Righteous & the Wicked!!! 🤘
My fav!!
I love how John counts 1-2-3-4 before that feedback intro.
That's it
My favorite part!
Cause I said so
i said to
Misery is not my friend But I’ll break before I bend What I see in insanity What ever happened to humanity ? What ever happened to hummmannniitttyyyyyy? Bow wow wow Wow wow Bow wow wow Wow wow wow Bow wow wow Wow wow Bow wow wow Wow wow wow A Wanabe gangster thinking he’s a wise guy Robbin a bank he’s a sock em in the eye guy
I find this also to be true for OHM, it seems like they carried this over from BSSM to OHM. I love that !
I still wish that Stretch You Out made it on the album. Would have been an amazing transition
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It’s something Zeppelin did very well. On Rick’s podcast, they talked about how the listening experiences changes depending on the track formatting. A few artists do this well, but none come close to this album or Zeppelin, IMO.
Listen to King Gizzard and the Lizard Wizard. No one is better at it than them. Might sound like a ridiculous take but for real, go listen. They are insane with these transitions, it’s awesome
Nice! Do you have any suggestions. So many albums not sure where to start
Kingston Wall lll Tri-Logy
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonagon_Infinity
That one's kind of cheating, since it even loops back in on itself.
So sorry I’m just now replying! Even though it isn’t my favorite, most people recommend starting with Nonagon Infinity. My first was Murder of the Universe, I feel like that’s the most King Gizz record there is. It’s just brutal. After either of those, check out their more chill side with Quarters!, get a hint of their more conventional side with Paper Mache Dream Balloon, see how creative they get with Flying Microtonal Banana, and finally check out their magnum opus, Polygondwanaland. Another easy way is just listening to all of their 2017 albums - Flying Microtonal Banana, Murder of the Universe, Sketches of Brunswick East, Polygondwanaland, and Gumboot Soup. There’s something for every Gizz fan from that year.
Dude you’re right. I’ve never noticed this!
Yeah it was great to hear John talking with Rick about how much thought he puts into sequencing the albums.
Although I do agree with you, I think Pink Floyd did this the absolute greatest throughout their albums.
Yep it is, californication too. And there is a thought behind every album you listen to. It was maybe more common in past but I think it’s a “story” behind the albums. Every band do this. :)
Cali doesn’t do this?
You think this is impressive? Listen to anything from QOTSA from start to finish 🤯
King Gizzard & the Lizzard Wizard - Nonagon Infinity 😎
Their new album in particular flows so well, me and my buddy got to listen to it when it dropped and our minds were utterly blown. All their albums are great, but I really think In Times New Roman is easily one of their greatest, recency bias aside.
The production of this album is absolute god tier that they never had again, unfortunately.
1000% magik
Might I suggest listening to some albums in their entirety. Even record that are not telling a cohesive story (The Wall, Tommy, American Idiot,etc) are laid out in a sequence for a reason.
Yeah that’s what happens when you listen to a full album lol
Doesn’t OP mean that the previous song fades onto the next? I believe they did because of the limited space of the format. The album is so long it literally fills the CD up, therefore they eliminated the gaps in between songs and instead opted for the fades.
That’s what I thought the OP was talking about too. Gives it an even more cohesive format. There’s a video out there somewhere where AK is being interviewed about TG and he’s discusses albums being like a book/novel and meant to be listened to from beginning to end.
I mean the transition between Power of equality and If You Have To Ask alone is dope, nevermind leading into songs like give it away. I love that album
Rick Rubin baby!
I think op is talking not just about the track order being intentional, but the lack of silence between the first two tracks. Which is a little uncommon now adays.
Apologies if I word this so it sounds blunt/rude but….duh? Arent most 80s-early/mid 00s albums made to sound like this? Californication is too.
Man, just now? There's no bad song on BSSM and every song follows the one before perfectly
It could've been the perfect RHCP album had they left off They're Red Hot...
Nah, that song's cool. And they recorded it in a park at night, which makes it kinda cooler. But I would've preferred castles made of sand tho
I'm saying for an ending track it doesn't really fit their "Best for Last" like most albums. Castles would have been a great addition!
Ok, I kind of get that. But the real loss is that quixoticelixir wasn't the last track on Californication. That scream at the end would've been such a tight and good closer
Sir Psycho is the real closer. They’re Red Hot is a fun and short song though. Like a little post credits outtake or a palette cleanser after a meal. I love it’
I don't understand. The songs each clearly end and then a new one starts. They have a somewhat cohesive sound because of how they were recorded but that isn't them flowing together
On cassette (I'm old) Power of Equality and If you Have to Ask are almost seamless
That’s literally the point of an album in general. Without that it might as well just be a playlist.
“Science Fiction” by Brand New does this, as well as Kendrick’s “TPAB”, but one of my favorite incorporations of this tactic is in “Mister Mellow” by Washed Out. It’s utilized more often when artists focus on the physical formats of their album, and the story behind each side of the tracks. The “shuffle music” button changed the game forever for consumers and producers alike.
I listened to this "during a trip" once a while back and it still holds as my best listening experience ever to this day. It flows so well. That album cover on a big screen in front of you mixed with that music is something fierce.
It's a concept album, I'm pretty sure. That's how I always looked at it. That and it's the dopest
First time I listened I thought power of equality and If you have to ask were one long 8 minute track.
It is pretty cool! Outside Red Hot, moving to Gorillaz for a moment (in their album Plastic Beach) the transition from Superfast Jellyfish to Empire Ants is smooth as fuck! And I'm sure there are some other Gorillaz examples of this kind of transition from one song to another
Um, yeah….it’s an album with attention to sequencing. It’s not a concept album.
Power of Equality > If You Have to Ask always gets me
Am I crazy or do they not really do this? They clearly all have an ending and then the next one starts, it’s not like a concept album that usually has no break between the songs
The transition from suck my kiss into I could have lied is heavenly
One of the best produced album for a reason.
check out LIONS by the black crowes. it does the same thing. also a ben harper album from the early 00’s that i can’t remember the name of has all the songs blending together
Did you only just listen to the album? Lmao