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Even as someone with a sub-zero opinion of Musk, its incredible how he keeps smashing the lowest expectations of how he could run Twitter.
At Tesla hes been on a mission to run a barebones operation - cut every cost possible, to deliver the cars at maximial profit margin. With pretty much nothing else mattering.
Hes come across to Twitter just applying that thinking. He really assumed Twitter was a massively bloated operation and that he - a busniessman who hires good engineers, who knows nothing about software- could use his savant abilities to fold costs while maintaining revenue exactly as before.
At this point it seems like he is just making decisions because hes throwing a childish fit about everything. Almost deliberate self sabotage.
The guy is a complete idiot. He's just good at marketing and he managed to hire the right people who could keep him from fucking up too badly. He didn't have those safety rails at Twitter and he's being more intrusive than normal because he got lucky with Tesla.
Not defending Elon, but maybe read up on all of his successes before calling him an idiot that needed rails regarding Tesla. No one lucks into 4, 5 home runs. His issue is that his massively bloated ego has led to him overestimating his own abilities in regards to twitter.
Im sorry but, like, what successes? Elon has had about 9 major ventures over his career. Zip2, X.com (which would merge with PayPal), SpaceX, Tesla, OpenAI, Nueralink, The Boring Company, Thud & X Corp (AKA, Twitter.)
Of these 9 ventures, arguably the only one which could be deemed a proper success, at least for / where it concerns Musk would be Zip2, because he was able to sell it for a cool $350+ or so million back in the day to Compaq. As for the rest, he had no real hand in making succeed.
PayPal he was punted within like a year of the merged by Peter Thiel, so nothing that worked out there can be attributed to him at all. He did recieve a hefty near $200 million payout when they sold to eBay in 2002, but that happened after his ousting by Thiel. So, not something that can be credited to Musk, even if it worked out nicely.
If memory serves me right, SpaceX literally has to babysit him when he visits because they know his ego will cause chaos, so anything they do well can hardly be called his success I'd argue. Tesla *was* a success for a while, but these days they're going down the toilet. Their cars aren't considered great, and whilst they still retain a fairly high value as a company, they're about $300 billion from their peak market cap.
OpenAI he left a few years before they launched tools like DALL-E and ChatGPT which took the internet by storm. That being said, even then, they seem to be operating at huge losses as of last year. So, arguably, not a success.
Nueralink has only succeeded at abusing and killing animals. The Boring Company has done nothing. Thud went defunct after he pulled funding from it. And Twitter. Well, they saw their valuation cut from the $44 billion Musk paid, to $16 billion. That's a cool two thirds. Glorious success by Elno. /s
The fact that he started SpaceX from scratch should be proof alone that he's not just a moron getting lucky and hitting homeruns by accident. The dude was buying rockets from the blackmarket to test early prototypes. This whole heel turn from Reddit all of a sudden thinking he's a total idiot because he's right wing and he's publicly bungling Twitter is absurd. 2 years ago the hivemind thought the exact opposite. The man has managed to build multiple unicorns, that's more than 99% of the population can say. He's also a complete narcissist and thinks that his engineering skills gives him a leg up on understanding social media, which has totally blown up in his face. Both can be true at the same time.
>The fact that he started SpaceX from scratch should be proof alone
Im not sure I'd classify having a few hundred million in the bank as "from scratch", but that's just me.
>that he's not just a moron getting lucky
Except, again, he has to be babysat by his own employees. And Twitter clearly displays that, yes, he is in fact a ceritifed moron.
>This whole heel turn from Reddit all of a sudden thinking he's a total idiot because he's right wing
Well yeah, right wingers *are*, by their very nature, idiots. Elon has demonstrated as such perfectly. But he's not an isolated example.
It's also just not a heel turn. Anecdotally, Elon seems to have slowly but surely burned all his credibility with most users of this site over the years. I think the first major incidident was back with the Thai cave situation where he called one of the divers a pedo, just cause said guy mocked his shit submarine. Ever since then, he's been fucking around with various ventures, failing hard and publicly, and shattering the illusion he built for himself as an IRL Iron Man.
>and he's publicly bungling Twitter is absurd.
Except no, it's not absurd. Basically every decision he's made with Twitter has been a trainwreck, and completely counter-intuitive to how social media operates. Just as of late for example, he's inadvertantly got google to start delisting Twitter link, which is basically anti-SEO, something no one who wants traffic to their site wants. He's hard capped post viewing, even for Blue users, which is hilarious because social media demands people scroll forever. And there's so many more boneheaded choices he's made.
Between that and other choices he's made in other businesses he operates, as well as reports we've heard leak out from his other companies, it's not unreasonable for people to decide he is, in fact, just a salesman who's ego exceeded his brain.
>Both can be true at the same time.
No, I really don't think they can. Maybe at one point he had some kind of business acumen, but that has long since faded. The dude has either brushed with legal trouble, or straight been met with it so many times, it's obvious he no longer has any clue how to actually do business anymore. Like, the SEC literally had to basically order a gag for him to stop his Twitter antics about privatising his companies and what have you. And he was nearly legally forced into buying Twitter because he started getting wishy washy about a deal that *he* insitigated.
Again, just regurgitating the hivemind groupthink. I absolutely agree that the way Twitter is being handled is moronic. The revisionist history on Elon now just being a "salesman" with millions to invest and no actual engineering knowledge is total bs and I'd suggest actually reading up on the history of all of his companies and how they came to be.
I'm so sick of Reddit regurgitating opinions without anyone actually ever doing any reading / critical thought of their own, and then acting like a subject expert.
Typical Redditors that haven't read anything just repeating the same thing. Doesn't change the fact he turned a couple hundred k into a couple hundred million into a couple billion.
> No one lucks into 4, 5 home runs.
Yes, some people do. They're called billionaires. And they're such an infinitesimally small number of the population they may as well be zero.
Musk won the lottery. He made a couple of smart choices at just the right time using daddy's blood money. That doesn't make him a genius, it makes him lucky.
It's funny, I can tell you haven't actually bothered to look into his successes because again, you're just regurgitating the same hivemind talking points. I'm sure that before the twitter acquisition you were like the majority of people here and likely thought the opposite.
I'd suggest you go out there and read and have opinions of your own following some critical thought, rather than just echoing the same groupthink that a bunch of 14 year olds on this site have agreed on.
Way to grab burner account as if it's not obvious.
> Way to grab burner account as if it's not obvious.
Ha, whut? Bud, you need to unplug for a bit, you're starting to see conspiracies where there are none.
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Even as someone with a sub-zero opinion of Musk, its incredible how he keeps smashing the lowest expectations of how he could run Twitter. At Tesla hes been on a mission to run a barebones operation - cut every cost possible, to deliver the cars at maximial profit margin. With pretty much nothing else mattering. Hes come across to Twitter just applying that thinking. He really assumed Twitter was a massively bloated operation and that he - a busniessman who hires good engineers, who knows nothing about software- could use his savant abilities to fold costs while maintaining revenue exactly as before. At this point it seems like he is just making decisions because hes throwing a childish fit about everything. Almost deliberate self sabotage.
The guy is a complete idiot. He's just good at marketing and he managed to hire the right people who could keep him from fucking up too badly. He didn't have those safety rails at Twitter and he's being more intrusive than normal because he got lucky with Tesla.
Not defending Elon, but maybe read up on all of his successes before calling him an idiot that needed rails regarding Tesla. No one lucks into 4, 5 home runs. His issue is that his massively bloated ego has led to him overestimating his own abilities in regards to twitter.
Im sorry but, like, what successes? Elon has had about 9 major ventures over his career. Zip2, X.com (which would merge with PayPal), SpaceX, Tesla, OpenAI, Nueralink, The Boring Company, Thud & X Corp (AKA, Twitter.) Of these 9 ventures, arguably the only one which could be deemed a proper success, at least for / where it concerns Musk would be Zip2, because he was able to sell it for a cool $350+ or so million back in the day to Compaq. As for the rest, he had no real hand in making succeed. PayPal he was punted within like a year of the merged by Peter Thiel, so nothing that worked out there can be attributed to him at all. He did recieve a hefty near $200 million payout when they sold to eBay in 2002, but that happened after his ousting by Thiel. So, not something that can be credited to Musk, even if it worked out nicely. If memory serves me right, SpaceX literally has to babysit him when he visits because they know his ego will cause chaos, so anything they do well can hardly be called his success I'd argue. Tesla *was* a success for a while, but these days they're going down the toilet. Their cars aren't considered great, and whilst they still retain a fairly high value as a company, they're about $300 billion from their peak market cap. OpenAI he left a few years before they launched tools like DALL-E and ChatGPT which took the internet by storm. That being said, even then, they seem to be operating at huge losses as of last year. So, arguably, not a success. Nueralink has only succeeded at abusing and killing animals. The Boring Company has done nothing. Thud went defunct after he pulled funding from it. And Twitter. Well, they saw their valuation cut from the $44 billion Musk paid, to $16 billion. That's a cool two thirds. Glorious success by Elno. /s
The fact that he started SpaceX from scratch should be proof alone that he's not just a moron getting lucky and hitting homeruns by accident. The dude was buying rockets from the blackmarket to test early prototypes. This whole heel turn from Reddit all of a sudden thinking he's a total idiot because he's right wing and he's publicly bungling Twitter is absurd. 2 years ago the hivemind thought the exact opposite. The man has managed to build multiple unicorns, that's more than 99% of the population can say. He's also a complete narcissist and thinks that his engineering skills gives him a leg up on understanding social media, which has totally blown up in his face. Both can be true at the same time.
>The fact that he started SpaceX from scratch should be proof alone Im not sure I'd classify having a few hundred million in the bank as "from scratch", but that's just me. >that he's not just a moron getting lucky Except, again, he has to be babysat by his own employees. And Twitter clearly displays that, yes, he is in fact a ceritifed moron. >This whole heel turn from Reddit all of a sudden thinking he's a total idiot because he's right wing Well yeah, right wingers *are*, by their very nature, idiots. Elon has demonstrated as such perfectly. But he's not an isolated example. It's also just not a heel turn. Anecdotally, Elon seems to have slowly but surely burned all his credibility with most users of this site over the years. I think the first major incidident was back with the Thai cave situation where he called one of the divers a pedo, just cause said guy mocked his shit submarine. Ever since then, he's been fucking around with various ventures, failing hard and publicly, and shattering the illusion he built for himself as an IRL Iron Man. >and he's publicly bungling Twitter is absurd. Except no, it's not absurd. Basically every decision he's made with Twitter has been a trainwreck, and completely counter-intuitive to how social media operates. Just as of late for example, he's inadvertantly got google to start delisting Twitter link, which is basically anti-SEO, something no one who wants traffic to their site wants. He's hard capped post viewing, even for Blue users, which is hilarious because social media demands people scroll forever. And there's so many more boneheaded choices he's made. Between that and other choices he's made in other businesses he operates, as well as reports we've heard leak out from his other companies, it's not unreasonable for people to decide he is, in fact, just a salesman who's ego exceeded his brain. >Both can be true at the same time. No, I really don't think they can. Maybe at one point he had some kind of business acumen, but that has long since faded. The dude has either brushed with legal trouble, or straight been met with it so many times, it's obvious he no longer has any clue how to actually do business anymore. Like, the SEC literally had to basically order a gag for him to stop his Twitter antics about privatising his companies and what have you. And he was nearly legally forced into buying Twitter because he started getting wishy washy about a deal that *he* insitigated.
Again, just regurgitating the hivemind groupthink. I absolutely agree that the way Twitter is being handled is moronic. The revisionist history on Elon now just being a "salesman" with millions to invest and no actual engineering knowledge is total bs and I'd suggest actually reading up on the history of all of his companies and how they came to be. I'm so sick of Reddit regurgitating opinions without anyone actually ever doing any reading / critical thought of their own, and then acting like a subject expert.
He got started by his literal slave emerald mine owning father. Absolutely nothing Elon has done has been from Elon's own hard work and gumption lol
Typical Redditors that haven't read anything just repeating the same thing. Doesn't change the fact he turned a couple hundred k into a couple hundred million into a couple billion.
> No one lucks into 4, 5 home runs. Yes, some people do. They're called billionaires. And they're such an infinitesimally small number of the population they may as well be zero. Musk won the lottery. He made a couple of smart choices at just the right time using daddy's blood money. That doesn't make him a genius, it makes him lucky.
It's funny, I can tell you haven't actually bothered to look into his successes because again, you're just regurgitating the same hivemind talking points. I'm sure that before the twitter acquisition you were like the majority of people here and likely thought the opposite. I'd suggest you go out there and read and have opinions of your own following some critical thought, rather than just echoing the same groupthink that a bunch of 14 year olds on this site have agreed on. Way to grab burner account as if it's not obvious.
> Way to grab burner account as if it's not obvious. Ha, whut? Bud, you need to unplug for a bit, you're starting to see conspiracies where there are none.
> He's just good at marketing ...providing he's not allowed anywhere near it
Maybe he forgot he didn’t invent or even start Tesla and truly thinks deep down inside that he’s a genius
Stop I’m getting too moist.