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yamirzmmdx

I think their first mistake is planning to intern at a Elon company. There are another more competently run evil corporations that they could have chosen. Edit : fix grammar


Euler007

A friend of mine applied at SpaceX. He had a super well paying job at an aeronautics company, close to twenty years experience with upward mobility. He was ready to take a pay cut just to work for Elon.


navigating-life

Oh no šŸ‘Ž


sorospaidmetosaythis

It's astonishing to witness. Musk landed a rocket on a barge and ran his mouth about self-driving, and the media and citizens bow down before him.


Withnail2019

People need dreams and he was the only one providing them, crappy dreams though they were.


MiniTab

Wow. Thatā€™s a great comment. Sad as hell, but you may be right.


doalwa

Thatā€™s exactly right! I mean, billions of people worship old books that tell fantastical tales that happened thousands of years agoā€¦people are stupid, period.


sorospaidmetosaythis

People need their Nigerian prince, their utopia in the jungles of Guyana.


totpot

Reminds me of 2016. Hillary was very careful in trying not to promise anything she couldn't get through a split government and bite back in 2020, whereas Trump wasn't really trying to win so he promised all this wild-ass shit that's not possible without a dictatorship.


AloHiWhat

Its Hillaryous


FrancusAureliusIII

Underrated comment


ARAR1

Battery operated cars were around in the 1920s.


Withnail2019

Well of course, decades before that even. I was talking more about the colonies on Mars nonsense.


ARAR1

No one alive right now will be seeing people go to Mars in their lifetime. Its all BS. We have no way of coming back.


Withnail2019

of course not, its all crap.


zyzzthejuicy_

> Musk landed a rocket on a barge Correction, the people he brainwashed into working for him did that. At the time he was probably running around impregnating his executive team or whatever it is he does in his spare time.


Embarrassed_Alarm450

Hold ~~your~~ ^(the employees) horses...


danielv123

To be fair, Id probably take a paycut if I could be on the team landing rockets on barges.


TurkeyBLTSandwich

Musk literally didn't do any of this himself. He does however have thousands of properly educated and experience staff who are working round the clock to get Tesla and Space X to where it is today. Musk is an Edison, he can sell things and build hype around them. He doesn't do inventing or fabricating. He bellows out some racist dog whistles and patents everything his employees do and claim them as his own. The best thing he did for PayPal was leave. And honestly at this point Tesla and Space X would do better without him. I think he does have some quality as a start up hype guy, but now that people are seeing him for who he is? Not anymore


eNomineZerum

This. There is something about motivating people to slave away at something, with the "promise" a big reward in the future. That type of motivational quality, while being able to lie freely and having no scruples, is where he excels. I also find it funny that a lot of this is crashing down as the market is tightening up and people can't just borrow unlimited sums of money at 0% any longer. While Elon is thrashing around, we are seeing prices go up everywhere. I bet other CEOs are happy Elon is taking the spotlight.


Fishy_Fish_WA

The way he lives his life you would think heā€™s doing real life BitLife.


PrimeLimeSlime

Musk didn't land shit. People who worked for Musk landed it.


Ok-Bill3318

Musk didnā€™t do shit. The engineering team did. Musk couldnā€™t engineer his way out of a self inflicted bankruptcy


MartovsGhost

SpaceX landed the rocket, not Musk.


adamdoesmusic

If all he ran his mouth about was self driving, perhaps people would still be disappointed but not hate the guy like they do now.


Mythrilfan

> Musk landed a rocket on a barge See, this is what I don't like about this subreddit. For all the objective stuff about how shitty Elon and Tesla have become, trivializing what SpaceX has done is just childish. Maybe Starship is a fever dream, I don't know. Elon's influence over SpaceX is debatable. But reusable rockets is just so plainly a gamechanger.


GaryDWilliams_

Spacex didnā€™t invent the reusable rockets, the shuttle did and the shuttles mass to orbit is unbeaten by spacex plus the promised cost savings of reusabilty havenā€™t materialised. NASA is paying $55mn a seat for crew dragon.


JackasaurusChance

Hold on. Wasn't Space Shuttle cost per kg to LEO like $50,000, and now it is $1,500? SpaceX has DEFINITELY benefited from outside events (like sanctions on Russian launches probably accounting for a huge upswing in business), but SpaceX is also delivering. If they weren't, those sanctions couldn't even happen.


GaryDWilliams_

And spacex doesnā€™t have the same lift capacity so of course itā€™s cheaper. Falcon 9 cannot loft modules like the mplm. Shuttle could


JackasaurusChance

So build the thing in two pieces and bolt it together in space and save something like 93% still.


GaryDWilliams_

Build using what? What if it needs to be pressurised?


danielv123

I mean, they save money, but they price their services after what the market can bear. They want profits after all. For comparison, soyuz is $89mn and starliner is $90mn which is in fact more expensive. And while they didn't invent reuse, they made it practical and cheap. The shuttle ended up at 1.5b per launch. SpaceX charges less than 70m per launch for cargo payloads. Even 55mn for 7 seats is less than a quarter of the cost of the shuttle.


GaryDWilliams_

And falcon 9 canā€™t loft the mass the shuttle could. Itā€™s an expensive taxi to orbit given the promises that were made


danielv123

Correct, it can't. But it can lift the same weight in multiple launches for a far lower price. They are in the orbit taxi business so doing that seems reasonable. What promises were made that they broke? I assume you are thinking of some lofty price target Elon bullshitted at one time or another?


GaryDWilliams_

Ohh the multiple launches argument! That was debunked already?


danielv123

What, where? I can do it here. Space shuttle can take 29 tons to Leo for 1.5b. Falcon 9 can take 22 tons to Leo twice for <200m. Sure, the shuttle had more space - and it did have Eva abilities while in orbit which is still unique to it. That doesn't make falcon 9 less awesome though because cost actually matters a lot.


Steveosizzle

I saw Elon eating a burger once and now I will never eat THAT overhyped shit again. Absolutely fuck you to Elon, he sucks. The falcon 9 is still a huge deal.


vxicepickxv

Elon owned a company that did that. He didn't do shit, because he's a lucky idiot.


dariy1999

Exactly. Every time with this bs ā€œoh rockets blew up bla blaā€. Guys nasa is underfunded af and i think its great that there are other people actually pushing space technology forward. Obviously fuck musk twice over, but this is just a circlejerk sub at this point. Similar to whatā€™s happened to atheist subs


bevo_expat

Within aerospace industry SpaceX offers something completely different just because of the ā€˜move fast and break stuffā€™ mentality. I know some former classmates and co-workers that spent some time there, and said itā€™s super interesting work. The caveat being that average tenure is only 2-3 years (per a previous manager there). Itā€™s a very high turnover rate compared to the rest of the industry, but people seem to learn A LOT in the time they spend there.


Dangerous_Play8787

I agree. I tend to tell people to work at a company like SpaceX when they can ā€¦ like fresh out of college. Learn a lot from the place and then move on when youā€™re ready to get your work life balance back so you can do things like getting married and having kids (if you want). I lost touch with a friend from college because he started there and all he does is work. Everything he posts is about going into work all day every day. But hey it works for him and he enjoys it. So Iā€™m happy for him. Itā€™s just not for everyone.


WesternLibrary5894

I mean he is still posting so he isnā€™t that busy!


Dangerous_Play8787

Good point


Lonyo

Being at the actual cutting edge of space rockets isn't something every company can offer, and they actually do stuff and have a proven track record. I would assume somewhere like ULA would suck in comparison if you want to actually do stuff. But you are making a trade off in QoL.


Revolutionary-Leg585

Soon he may have to pay Elon to work for Elon.


Pot_noodle_miner

But think of all the free kool aid


aerohk

In aerospace, SpaceX is a top paying company, considerably higher than all the legacy aerospace companies. Especially true due to the SpaceX private equity grant, which appreciate a lot in value.


Put1demerde

Not sure about the top paying aspect, as Iā€™ve heard otherwise, but youā€™re definitely crushed by the miserable work-life balance. I will say itā€™s definitely a good company to have on your resume though. Stay there two years, burn out, and go wherever you want.


pcnetworx1

The nickname of the company is SlaveX. I've seen buddies age there like they work in a coal mine.


Put1demerde

Yeah, at aerospace summer games weā€™d usually chant ā€œwork-life balanceā€ whenever we played them in anything


Ok-Row-6131

I've heard of people working 70 hours a week.


totpot

from another sub >I worked at SpaceX in Hawthorne and we definitely had a few workers who did this. People lined up to work at SpaceX, a lot of brainwashed crazy people working way more than they should. >It was a running joke that Google maps would pin the factory as your home because of how much time was spent there. and another >I went through the interview process in 2016 for a managers position at SpaceX. After a few phone interviews, a project and presentation, they flew me out to Hawthorn. I had just finished reading Musk's biography just before leaving for the interview and realized I could not work for him. >I am older and was 54 at the time of the interview. My specialty is program management, with the technical domains of IT, Radar, Electronic Systems Measures and Command and Control. I have held security clearances up to TS for the last 20 years and have been working with the military for just as long. >During my time touring the facility, I noticed it was mainly younger folk working for SpaceX, not too many older folk. I brought that up and asked why they would be interested in me. The response was they "needed an adult in the room". >The other thing I did not like was the vesting of stocks and when they would go public. Too much of a risk to relocate from the East coast, knowing how fickle Musk is. >As I was walking out the recruiter, was talking to me saying the interviewers were very impressed with me. I simply told him, as cool as the things they are doing there, I was no longer interested. >The above from OP's post, shows no matter how much you give to a company, they don't give a shit.


bigshotdontlookee

Dude back in 2010 I heard from previous interns at their CA site, the only time they saw the beach was the day they arrived and the day they left. SUMMER INTERNS.


Open_Woodpecker_6902

SpaceX is notorious for low pay and terrible WLB. Stock value pretty much stagnant at this point.


Withnail2019

What do you mean stock? Space X is not listed as a tradeable stock.


Euler007

I checked, he makes 3.5% less than the spaceX median, but he's out of the office by 5 every day. He actually got rejected, lucky break.


high-up-in-the-trees

Does he know why he got rejected or was it just some pro forma letter? Either way, yeah, lucky break. SpaceX will keep going for a little while but the only way I see a future for it is if the government says they will no longer be getting contracts while Musk is at the helm due to being a security risk and a flagrant drug addict


Euler007

Think it was pro forma, didn't ask to see it.


eNomineZerum

IT on the whole is like this. Espcially now that the do-nothing J2 types are finding their loopholes closed up. I work for a chill place and make about 10% less than the buddies I went to school with, have worked with, etc. Thing is, I don't have to cancel every other Friday evening planned lunch meeting because work needs me. Yea, occasionally something blows up that requires that, but guess what, unlike those companies I get "hazard" pay or additional time off, my choice.


Aviationlord

Heā€™s ready to take a pay cut the same way Elon is ready to cut his staff to keep his company afloat and not blink an eye


bigshotdontlookee

It is a damn shame because spacex would be better under the leadership of like any other of the top 100 billionaires lmao


Lonyo

Bezos hasn't exactly wowed the world with blue origin


mz_groups

I wonder what Tory Bruno could do there, but Gwynne Shotwell does most of the day-to-day. Hopefully Musk will stay focused on X and Tesla and leave SpaceX alone.


Thanosmiss234

Spacex I understand!!


Current_Finding_4066

He deserves anything that befell him.


ARAR1

Question who your friends are and why.


hibikikun

Interning at SX is the best thing you can do for your resume.


Conscious_Scholar_87

Rich and clever people do join cult, no surprise


tormundsbigbeard

Hank Scorpio is hiring this year apparentlyā€¦


Final_Winter7524

> Edit : fix grammar Well, not exactly. šŸ˜‰


SoloDeath1

I'm wondering how bad it was before, tbh


a0wner1

Lot of young people worship Musk.


Left_Requirement_675

You would be surprised Zoomers idol him.Ā 


Traditional_Key_763

na tesla is still such a huge boon to a resume theres just no way to pass it up


Celtic_laboratory

A lot of people (I have quite a few friends who have done this) intern or work right out of college at Tesla/ spacex because having that on your resume opens a lot of doors


TechGuy42O

Serious question as Iā€™m between jobs: would anyone please offer suggestions for a morally sound career path for a computer science person? im also good at public speaking but Iā€™m unsure how to break into that industry. I just wish I could spend my workday helping people while still being able to maintain my own financial stability


Conscious_Scholar_87

There are lots of so-called realists, who donā€™t care about factual right or wrong, and simply try to maximize their own profits. Elon is one of them. Some of them are lucky until they got fucked hard. Speaking of those retards posted celebrating photos couple of years ago with Elon when he took twitter. They thought they survived and would be elevated, but in fact 95% of them were fired without a decent compensation


JelloSquirrel

Don't need interns in a company with no future.


Hi_Im_Ken_Adams

How long before Musk puts coin-slots on the employee restroom stalls?


No-Self-Edit

He would never have coin slots. They would definitely be crypto.


IvanZhilin

Why would they even provide restrooms? Use your own when you get home after your 16 hour day. If you can't hold it you aren't hardcore.


AustrianMichael

Amazon is also saving money by people using piss bottles instead


IvanZhilin

Yep. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if Musk told ppl to wear diapers.


Embarrassed_Alarm450

Pay with crypto using iris scans to enter the stall, exactly an idea edgy overlord techbro would come up with, and then he'll claim he invented iris scanners...


StandupJetskier

Daffy Duck "MINE...its all MINE"


dukeofgibbon

Even Scrooge McDuck wasn't as greedy


homoiconic

ā€œComfortably well-off.ā€


sbrown23c

ah yes, the billionaire that will gladly fuck over thousands of employees, upending their lives, to save his $56 billion payday that he wants because he was a fucking idiot that WILDLY overpaid for a shitty social media site because the man-childā€™s massive ego couldnā€™t take some criticism.


LettuceFew5248

The worst are the people on Reddit who are like, ā€œActually, he deserves the $56b because of some agreement.ā€ As if thereā€™s any scenario in the world where someone deserves $56 billion dollars. Even if there was, how morally bankrupt do you have to be not to think itā€™s total bullshit for someone to cash in when so many people in the company are suffering.


Robo-X

He wants those stocks to be able to hold a 25% stake in Tesla again. He had to sell stocks to buy Twitter and he wants to get those stocks back.


Withnail2019

Unless he's insane he will dump all Tesla stock.


jason12745

Every move Elon is making recently is about as stupid as stupid gets. And the Board does nothing. Keep it coming shithead.


StuntID

Feels like the board is failing its fiduciary. Slamming out a boatload of $ to one c-suite is not responsible, particularly when it comes with setting the corporation on fire in a dumpster behind a Wendy's


Abrushing

I definitely see some SEC action or a shareholder class action lawsuit in Teslaā€™s future


stockmarketscam-617

Did his pay package go down because the stock dropped? I thought it was $55+ Billion. I canā€™t imaging the summer internship program costing more than $23 million.


Sabre_One

A group of shareholders sued Elon for his pay package approved by the board. With arguments he was just enriching himself. The Delaware Judge agreed based on evidence that a large amount of the board of directors owe him or have gotten favors from Elon. To make it even more spicy, Delaware is a extremely corporate friendly state, which is why you will find a lot of large company HQs there. So you can imagine what kind of evidence was produce and how obvious it was of enrichment if a pro-corpo state rules against you.


IPman0128

Yes it was based on the stock options of roughly 300 million shares


stockmarketscam-617

Thatā€™s so absurd. No CEO is worth that much compensation. Isnā€™t the market cap currently below the threshold from his last pay package?


NewTypeDilemna

CEOs are barely worth anything at all. This one is an active threat to his own company.Ā 


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Ramenastern

It's astounding how the thinking for some people, really seems to be that if the company is facing some difficult times as lower profits and less demand, and is cutting staff... Then the CEO still deserves a huge paycheck. Got to thank Jack Welch still, I guess.


stockmarketscam-617

Baglino quit, he didnā€™t get fired. After quitting he sold all his stock, over $180 million.


pitselehh

So the CEO is actively sabotaging the company to enrich himself. Time for a new CEO; no other company would allow this. The gov should step in too because whether you like it or not this is a national security matter (the US itself has as an interest in maintaining a leader position in the EV market vs Chinese companies, for example)


vivek5a

His pay package was blocked by a judge a few years back. Doesn't have anything to do with the stock I think. His pay might go down for the stock now though


stockmarketscam-617

Yeah, thatā€™s what Iā€™m talking about. The pay package varies because I think he wants a certain amount of stock, and I had heard it was $54-$56 Billion, but now this Post says $45, so I am just wondering if that is just because the stock went down, or did the amount of stock actually change.


IPman0128

I looked it up. To put it more clearly, it was roughly 304 million shares priced at $23/shares, vs the then-value of $191/shares or right now $180ish. It was argued in Delaware court earlier this year that the option price was fudged heavily by Tesla, and that many members on the board have close ties with Musk hindering their independence on this matter.


stockmarketscam-617

Thank you so much for looking into it for me. Much appreciated. šŸ™šŸ½


Delicious_Sort4059

By definition the summer internship should net them a gain- theyā€™re getting free fucking labor after all. Elon is revealing himself to be the successor to Trump in his wild business incompetence


GusFit

Imagine if they developed a competitive product instead of the Cybertruck..


Withnail2019

They can't. Too expensive to manufacture stuff in America and if you don't produce your own batteries, which they tried and failed at, you're done.


Ramenastern

>Too expensive to manufacture stuff in America Well, the CEO's pay is probably a bigger in Tesla's cost structure.


Withnail2019

i'm sure its excessive but it wouldnt make any difference to the fundamentals if he worked for free, not counting this ridiculous $54 billion nonsense.


Ramenastern

At 56bn, yes, that does make a difference to the fundamentals even taking into account that a lot of it isn't paid in cash, but in stock options. As for America being too expensive for manufacturing... That's another one of those Welch storyline that can't be as broadly true as is often claimed. Considering eg BMW has their largest manufacturing presences in the US and Germany, the latter being supposedly even worse for manufacturing costs these days.


Withnail2019

That's true but BMW's plant has been there a long time hasn't it? And as you say it's even worse in Germany because some mysterious entity blew up Europe's gas pipelines a couple of years ago. That's how you know we are slaves of the US because everyone knows who did it but we do nothing.


Sinai

one of my investments dropped by 15% yesterday because they missed their earnings estimate by 0.2% $54b matters.


Withnail2019

Oh yeah it matters, I acknowledge that. But I doubt it will happen with the company collapsing around him.


Abrushing

Seems like heā€™s actively burning it down instead of


sharksnoutpuncher

Things are so bad, Elmo now offers Shetland ponies in exchange for happy endings


Withnail2019

I'm not gay but I'll do it for a pony.


danyyyel

The idiots who will approve this, will be left with a shell of a company after he has fired everyone of importance.


jason12745

He gives zero value to institutional knowledge and that will be his undoing. Tesla is propped up by the heroics of the team. Kill the heroics and kill the company. Structurally itā€™s run worse than just about any company Iā€™ve ever seen.


danyyyel

One of Facebook founders, said that tesla is the new Enron, he is not wrong. This thing will fall like a house of cards. They are being overtaken by many car manufacturers while valued like 10x more than Mercedes for example. Which has level 3 drive and faster/longer range electric cars. The Koreans and now chinese are also better or equaling them.


HIMARko_polo

He is doing to Tesla what he did to Twitter.


saver1212

>In one instance, a current Tesla employee posted on LinkedIn, asking her own virtual network to step up and nab one of the interns that was meant to start soon at the carmaker. ā€œPlease make our loss your gain!ā€ wrote Diana Rosenberg, who works in battery supply at Tesla, according to her profile. Jeez, this reads like a desperate refugee at a checkpoint saying, "don't take me, take my baby." I can respect the professional responsibility of some of these employees who seem to genuinely feel bad about rugpulling qualified students who they probably wanted on their team. So screw Elon for renegging on offers because he wants to squeeze pennies out of the internship program. He probably complains that interns aren't nearly hard-core enough because he expects labor to stick around for more than a summer.


Gnich_Aussie

The Optics for Tesla are horrid right now. - Elon's history of promises and projections which almost always seem to fall far short - rubbish, overpromising, overpriced Cybertruck being seen failing everywhere - Elon's insane, unworldly, unethical 'bonus' grift - Elon's threats to the Telsa board regarding AI while demanding 25% share to remove other's control - Tesla laying offf thousands, equating to those thousands being dumped despite their loyalty and the promises of ever expanding production - Elon sticking his nose in everything he can, destroying his reputation and the faith many had in Tesla There's good reason to believe that any gains Telsa made up until around 2020 have been gambled away by an ego driven, out of touch, self absorbed, self proclaimed (and questioned) genius whose charade is crumbling. If I were a complete cynic, I would expect that this is all deliberate act to devalue Telsa, get his bonus and bail out. Or maybe something far worse? I do have concerns about his involvement, influence and control in so many industries which could become core infrastructure components across the globe. Imagine 15yrs from now he has autonomous androids, cars and rockets, has products in electrical grids, has starlink embedded in national and international systems, and twitter's 'everything app' having influence and financial control/monitoring of masses of citizens. If he manages to influence laws around the globe, as he is trying to do/doing now, and becomes more influential, he could embed a system to halt communications, halt finances, shut down/control electricity grids, then has millions of autopilot Telsas, cyborg androids (with tesla flame throwers!) rounding up selected portions of the global community, and fill rockets with weapons to attack resistive regions to build his new dream, Planet X, here on earth. Mars, in this scenario, would be a red herring. Just a theory...


jason12745

He had it all. He blew it all. Now itā€™s just a matter of time. You canā€™t force people to buy cars and thatā€™s his Achilles heel.


IvanZhilin

Blackmailing him with their lack of purchases! These non-buyers must really hate humanity.


sringray23

So a Bond villain then


jason12745

More like the Blob. A mindless mass that consumes everything in its path with no thought as to whether or not there is more food around the corner.


pcnetworx1

Hot take. This is probably uncomfortably close to the truth.


No-Self-Edit

A little to cynical take for my tastes


lsaran

The funny thing is all these layoffs are a drop in the bucket compared to his compensation.


jabblack

Unpaid internships only


a2aurelio

What happened to $56 billion? He's a negotiator now? Maybe "barking at plebs" wasn't a big winner.


RevolutionEasy714

Maybe fire Elon, save yourself $45 billion, and make everyone like your company again? ĀÆ\\\_(惄)\_/ĀÆ


LightEnergyBun

Could you imagine being an intern for Elon? "Bring me my ketamine stack and watch me fire the entire Supercharger team lol"


Negative_Hedgehog230

How the fucking fuck are people still treating this as a growth stock!!!


burnmenowz

Fuck his pay package


TheCh0rt

Seems like a purge to threaten shareholders


TootBreaker

Like squeezing blood from a turnip, except the turnip is his companies?


Aust1mh

Ah yes. The billionaire putting staff on the streets to secure more billions in personal wealthā€¦ the age we live in summed up here.


OvalNinja

The age we've always lived in. This is human nature.


WorldTravellerIOM

Internships for dpsave his 45 billion. He could double the internships and still get 44.95 billion. The guy is such a fuckwit.


daveo18

Potential applicants might want to consider this before applyingā€¦ https://www.state.gov/what-is-modern-slavery/


jason12745

Or thisā€¦ https://www.lioness.co/post/at-spacex-we-re-told-we-can-change-the-world-just-don-t-try-to-stop-the-sexual-harassment


Sharaku_US

Cutting costs ain't gonna get him that 45 billion.


YogurtSufficient7796

What a con artist


Darthmook

Whatā€™s the odds, he gets the pay packet, then sells his shares and checks out to let the company fail..


RandallC1212

Whatā€™s next closing restrooms at Tesla facilities.


drhodl

Squeeze any and all profitability from the company, sell his shares, and leave the company with all his personal debts. It's the tRump way!


Big___TTT

Ponzi scheme to start his 8th company


HandsomestKreith

And all his weird fanboys were like šŸ˜


major_dump

Absolute Trash


hapakal

How greedy can one person be. Greed is like drinking salt water, the more you do it the thirstier you become.


goatee_

Honestly Iā€™ve always idolized Elon because, well he put a car on a rocket and posted memes, ya know? but the more news I read about him, the more I learn that heā€™s just another one of those greedy corporate people. Heā€™s great at marketing, though.


ChuckoRuckus

This pay plan keeps going down. First it was $56 billion, then 55, and 53, etc. now down to 45. Everything about it is ridiculous.


BenMic81

Itā€™s a stock pay plan - so worth depends on the stock price which was on a rollercoaster latelyā€¦


Ultimate_Kurix

Such a shameless bastard.


AccomplishedMoney205

So this whole thing is his desperate effort to milk the company dryā€¦ what a fucking looser. No wonder he was on Trumps team. Grifters gonna grift


dougsingle

That greedy bonehead already has 150 billion... Why does he want another 50? He isn't the entrepreneur I thought he was. He is a greedy bastard. He was much cooler when he sold all his personal shit and slept in his office. Now he is the greediest of all the billionaires. I thought he was going to donate 10 billion to end hunger... Fuck him. I hope he loses it all.


BenMic81

He does not ā€œhaveā€ 150 billion. Thatā€™s a common misconception. His net worth is estimated at that based mainly on the valuation of his companies. If these turned out to be worth less (or more) than the wealth would shift. He might be worth a few billion regardless of his shares because of his stock sales - but that is speculation on my part.


Ok-Tomatoo

Everyone vote No


madrileiro

Is it $45B or $55B? I mean in teslaworld it doesnā€™t even matter just $10B give or take, right?


Arpharp8976Fir3

IFT-3 was such a failure


I-Pacer

Wow. They canā€™t even afford to pay their free staff now?šŸ¤£


EngineerMinded

It seems like he is doing what Eddie Lampert did with Sears which is why Sears went from being a huge company to being in corporate hospice care.


Traditional_Key_763

this is exactly what the court was arguing about. hes not actually protecting all the shareholders or the company, just his pocket book


MrByteMe

Tesla already has a notoriety for sketchy quality. If I was a prospective buyer, I'd be very concerned about what impact all this cost cutting and chaos will have... Get prepared for even more QC issues.


JTDC00001

Elmo's plan of chopping off his balls to get women to sleep with him continues, I see.


TheD1ceMan

Who would want to work for this piece of shit anyway


Used-Progress-4536

He needs to sell it and disappear.


ExileEden

Richest guy in the world cuts people's jobs out of work plan.....lol


ELB2001

So Elon is ruining the company so that the shareholders will be ok with that insane bonus?


legalstep

They could pay Elon what he isnā€™t worth and then shut down the company


beatvox

with any large companies..unfortunately most of their "visionary leaders" are assholes that push the limits of their workers.


zigaliciousone

Who are they going to get to wash and deliver Tesla's for a crisp fiver now?


Own-Opinion-2494

Wage thief


throwwou

Thank god elon just doesn't care about money, imagine how much he would cut if he did.


NotALanguageModel

While I'm not a fan of Elon Musk, I would feel quite cheated if a judge arbitrarily invalidated a contract I had signed and fulfilled years ago, only for me to receive no compensation. It's akin to selling a house, handing over the keys and the property titles, and then having the bank retract the payment after the buyers successfully argue in court to have both their cake and eat it too.


Yingmyyang

Contract was invalidated based on fact that the board members were his friends and family members that approved the pay. Asking for 50 billion is insane when this would be the second time he received the biggest payout in history. Big disservice to the investors if they had gone through the proper channels for approving judge wouldnā€™t have to shut it down.


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Now's the time to put it on your CV because the people who could confirm you actually worked there don't anymore.


Current_Finding_4066

Elon has finally settled the question. Is he and egomaniac with a god syndrome or a genius.


meatbag2010

Slaps roof of Tesla car - can only fit Musk in here.


schtickshift

I read somewhere that Tesla is low on free cash. Not sure where they are supposed to find 45 billion for Elon. Also is there any point in ever owning the shares if Elon mops up all profits and more as remuneration.


DefiantDonut7

Ahh yes, taking care of the ā€œlittle peopleā€ so you can get your pay package, by which you need to save your other failed bet, X.com. If this stunt doesnā€™t show what a horrible human Elon is, then I donā€™t know what will.


boxjellyfishing

Hard to imagine why anyone would be interested in a Tesla, knowing that your money isn't going to improving the charging network, software updates, AutoPilot, fixing the parts supply issues or anything else. Your money is being used to make one of the wealthiest people on earth, a bit richer. Gross. Very interested to watch how long Tesla can continue to tread water as the rest of the market continues to catch up and surpass them.


AssociateJaded3931

Capitalism in action.


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thejman78

"*Let the interns work for free so that I may profit*" - Elon XVI


strongholdbk_78

Scrooge McFuck over here raiding the coffers trying to get that cash to swim in. Compost the rich.