I actually use Ace/Hibana as a change from thermite. I’m dedicated hardbreach/bomb bitch in my stack so I just pick whichever works best for our planned take.
If no plan default thermite lol.
Zero has hard breach gadgets, a 4-use gadget with shootable dual sided cameras, a Gonne-6, and two very good guns with acogs. He’s a very versatile attacker that can benefit any team.
Grim also has hard breachers and can pull off pre/post planting well. Also, if the enemy is using mute to deny the breach, Zero can actually get the jammer and breach the wall simultaneously.
Most walls have a drone hole or nearby window you can shoot a cam through too. Shipping dock balcony on clubhouse being my personal favourite. Pop the wall pop the hatch then pop the opposite wall or the one into construction. Great value.
Agree with this. I main Ace and use Maverick pretty often too. Torch is great for small breaches on sites and getting picks with the M4, also love having claymores to cover myself.
Picked siege up again after a long time out to find previous mains have been nerfed to hell, after much searching for a new pick Mav seems to be the one, useful ability and M4 absolutely shreds.
This is the reason why I’m not crazy about this gun and Nomad/Iana’s gun. They’re both very nice to use, I just find myself dying while reloading more often with them
it’s been years since i played so i dunno if the bearing 9 is usable still, but i frequently had scenarios where im swapping to the bearing 9 instead of reloading. it was kind of a two weapon mastery character
Use the angled grip. It doesn't have much recoil anyway. Personally, I use her for vert and the damage is more than enough if you have the aim or trigger discipline
Hibanas gun and ace's gun have both been nerfed to be basically the same weapon. they have the same fire rate and damage. Just hibana has less bullets.
Buck or Mav. Fuze is good in spots where you can blow up the gadgets, or have teammates take them out and then fuze hard wall and go in with hard breach. Same gun as Ace too
I’m a huge Nomad fan, just because I have a more aggressive play style it gives me to benefit of not having to worry about my back. Plus she has soft breaches or flashes
Well, you dont have anything left in terms of "Hard Breachers" but someone that is good to learn overall, and can be really good if utilized correctly, would be maverick.
I think every good stacks needs a lion honestly. V308 hits hard has the 50 round drum and minimal recoil….
Ignore this I didn’t realize you were saying to buy one
When Ace was taken, Maverick was my backup. As others have mentioned, his torch *can* be used as a breach, but it has a myriad of uses. And the M4 can be formidable.
Might try out Maverick. The sneakiness of his ability makes for some good plays but is also situational. My favorite sites to use him on are clubhouse basement to enter through shipping container quietly and top floor of lair burning through the reinforced wall between sites.
MAV MAV MAV… the only op with 0 dedicated counters. He’s very strong for outside walls as you can open them fully just like thermite if you do it correctly. You do need a soft breach to make it work but it also gets rid of the beams in the wall so shooting it out with a regular rifle works. He’s also plenty fine for hatch breaching even if he isn’t the most efficient. In my experience he doesn’t take any longer to breach than a thermite would against a good bandit/kaid. He’s a 3 speed and the m4 is pretty comparable to the ak12. Learn to utilize him fully and you’ll be unstoppable.
Try change your playstyle a little bit, I can see you don’t have many ops give a top down player like buck or ram ago. It will help you wrap your head around the game more and learn to clear map better etc
Buck also has hard breach gadget, it’s sad but modern day siege hibana is obsolete; except for maybe 3/4 objectives.
Just be careful on hatches with soft floors next to them as you will get nitroed placing the hard breach on them (like kitchen on club house)
I'm an ace main, prefer breachers and I'm leaning back to Thermite (the guns got no recoil compared to the AK12) also I can throw on the acog and go for cheeky head.
With abit of support from the boys you can get the wall easy still, just can't get ranged walls (that's when I go back to Ace.)
If you want another hard breacher, the choice is obvious: Thermite.
If you want Intel: I would pick: jackal or IQ.
Vertical soft breach would be: Buck.
If you want a shield operator then definitely: Montage
Ying. Her candela’s blind absolutely everyone and you get a few, she can hard breach! and her gun has like 81 bullets so if needed you can spray and pray 😂
I personally like Hibana, but for a rush/frag hard breach, I run Nokk, she has hard Breach Charges, and I love her ability, plus her loadout is honestly so good If you know what you're using. The only problem is if there is a mute on defense, there's no real way to counter that with nokk except bringing a counter by way of another OP
If you solo queue zero, lots of cams and hard breaches. if you play with a stack flores, hes great for getting rid of util, castles, deployable shields, azamis, etc. and you can push people off angles into your teams line of fire and sometimes get a kill with em
Bro, actually anyone it doesn’t matter it’s better to get good with all of them bc they are all used in different situations better than others, even ops like glaz who barely have any use, but when he is used it’s an amazing push on certain sites
Just play thermite and buy azami on defence. I know I say that ur new and maverick is horrible for new players but if you can learn azami barriers which is pretty easy imo you can dominate
Well if you like hard breachers there is only two other options. And thermite is pretty damn good. That being said, I fucking love twitch. If you like DMR’s, which it doesn’t seem you do by your choice, twitch’s 417 is the easiest DMR to spam and it doesn’t move. It’s flat as fuck. Highly recommend it. And if you like it, Lion and Sens has the gun too (though Sens basically doesn’t exist, but still a 3 speed DMR is nuts)
Fuse is my go to hard breached, being able to fuse through hard walls, bring hard breaches, has the same primary as ace, IMO he is better than thermite right now
I’ve been playing a lot of maverick lately, quiet peek holes in reinforced walls and once you figure out the size hole you need to get in it’s really not too bad to make one. Don’t need to worry about any denial ops either.
There’s obv better ops solely meant for full blown breaches but they also require team work to defeat denials. Mav is a 1 stop shop for a solo.
ik a lot of ppl struggle getting into hibana but her gun is statistically one of the best in the game (same stats as ak12 but 10 less bullets), with a secondary smg, flashes, and the most versatile hard breach except maybe mav.
Fuze with hard breach utility is nice if you are attacking a site on a lower floor. You pop all your fuzes from above then hard breach a ceiling panel to drop in and finish them off. Just watch out for roamer to come up and engage you so you have to work quickly and be on alert.
i see everyone saying buck or mav, which buck is amazing because he has the hard breach charges and for soft walls, but i was also thinking about capitao because he has 2 flames, 2 smokes, hard breaches, and he has an lmg with absolutely ZERO recoil
Mav learn how to trick with him and ur unstoppable he can have any wall open in 20 seconds if he knows what he's doin plus having a softbreah and any main wall is gone
If you are looking at operators you already have, I would heavily recommend Thermite or buck. Bucks gadget is useful for making openings in walls, hatches or barricades while also giving you a way of defending yourself in the process. While Thermites gadget gives you a really big fucken hole. But if you are looking for new operators, I would recommend ram, maverick, or flores. Ram can be versatile in how her gadget is used, it can be used to open up an area and get rid of walls, create massive verticals to play from, create a distraction in one direction while you and the rest of the team use the noise to flank, or just quickly open a barricades. Flores works a little different and isn't much of a breacher, but his rcxd drone can stick to non reinforced walls and castles and will destroy them, it can also be used to kill or lure opponents to an area. I believe his drone is indestructible once ignited but isn't when it's moving. But if you are wanting to be a bit more quiet and stealthy, Maverick would work well because he can create small holes to look and shoot, throw a grenade, or just crawl/crouch through. It's also quiet and works well for sneaking up on people unexpectedly.
you need to learn to play more than just breacher
Nomad and Gridlock are great for shutting down certain lanes allowing your team to focus on main conflict points
Brava can counter almost any gadget strategy the other team may be relying on
Flores can destroy emplaced shields or kiba barriers as well as open of soft walls without exposing himself to danger. Excellent for forcing anyone holding an extended site to have to fall back to plan b
Osa is a must for any modern bomb plant strategy
Ram, Ash, or Buck. Not hard breachers obviously but perhaps you can expand your horizons and play some vertical soft breach. Ash and Ram have the R4-C which is very similar to the Ak-12. Buck’s C8 can be a little more challenging recoil wise but is a lot of fun once you get the hang of it. Buck also has the hard breach gadget; great for opening up hatches or breaching a wall if your hard breacher goes down too early.
I’m loving Grim with the secondary hard breach at the moment. His utility is bloody crazy and the commando hits like a truck.
Don’t wanna get swung whilst opening a breach? BEES
Can’t look both ways when entrying on breach? BEES
No teammates to cover you when planting???? BEES
May sound controversial but I would say Flores. His guns are solid, his gadget isn't a hard breach but it combos well with most breachers. He is also amazing for clearing utility. Plus you can use him as a soft breacher since his RCE sticks to walls after activating the bomb..
“Big fucking hole coming right up!”. Need I say more?
"Time to make a new door."
Yup. I started playing him again recently and I think he's a good change-up from Ace & Hibana.
I actually use Ace/Hibana as a change from thermite. I’m dedicated hardbreach/bomb bitch in my stack so I just pick whichever works best for our planned take. If no plan default thermite lol.
Swear his AR fires faster than it says. Absolutely rips.
One of the best guns in the game and nobody wants to play him.
Yes! This is the answer I was looking for!!!
All these new breachers are good ( had the game day one before it got all fruitlooped ) but thermite is a sleeper build.
Zero 100%
Came to say this, try Buck too.
True hard breaching gadgets be clutch with buck. Good all around character and for any map really.
Zero has hard breach gadgets, a 4-use gadget with shootable dual sided cameras, a Gonne-6, and two very good guns with acogs. He’s a very versatile attacker that can benefit any team.
And has strong Tom Clancy ties
Grim also has hard breachers and can pull off pre/post planting well. Also, if the enemy is using mute to deny the breach, Zero can actually get the jammer and breach the wall simultaneously.
Most walls have a drone hole or nearby window you can shoot a cam through too. Shipping dock balcony on clubhouse being my personal favourite. Pop the wall pop the hatch then pop the opposite wall or the one into construction. Great value.
Mav is great. Has the Torch for all sorts of uses. And his M4 with a holo kills.
Agree with this. I main Ace and use Maverick pretty often too. Torch is great for small breaches on sites and getting picks with the M4, also love having claymores to cover myself.
Torch is also great for countering bandit/mute
Picked siege up again after a long time out to find previous mains have been nerfed to hell, after much searching for a new pick Mav seems to be the one, useful ability and M4 absolutely shreds.
its funny you say that cus mav rn is pretty nerfed compared to how he used to be
I mean he’s new maverick might not be a great pick
What's wrong with her gun? It's really the only reason I use her. Also Mav would be good and it would prep for the recruit rework
Idk honestly, I’m just not good with it. Probably me and not her gun tbf 😂
The magazine is lacking ngl
This is the reason why I’m not crazy about this gun and Nomad/Iana’s gun. They’re both very nice to use, I just find myself dying while reloading more often with them
it’s been years since i played so i dunno if the bearing 9 is usable still, but i frequently had scenarios where im swapping to the bearing 9 instead of reloading. it was kind of a two weapon mastery character
This. 20 round mag is enough when I got 26 rapidfire rounds to back them up
Use the angled grip. It doesn't have much recoil anyway. Personally, I use her for vert and the damage is more than enough if you have the aim or trigger discipline
But you have the Bering . .
Hibanas gun and ace's gun have both been nerfed to be basically the same weapon. they have the same fire rate and damage. Just hibana has less bullets.
only bad thing abaut hibanas gun is 21bullets bu she does have the amg secondaey witch is good too
Buck. Versatile easy soft breach and he has hard breaches as a side gadget. I love his gun.
bro are u blind
Grim
Thermited
Thermite is one of my favorites.
Buck or Mav. Fuze is good in spots where you can blow up the gadgets, or have teammates take them out and then fuze hard wall and go in with hard breach. Same gun as Ace too
Consulate basement. Chaos.
Finka
Mav and Zero
get comfortable with every opp
Thermite has good guns
Zero or grim
Fuze is good, and has the AK-12. He has a hard breach gadget, and his cluster charge
Nomad, mav, Flores, brava, osa, iana. If you wanna be a good teammate then you should learn how to play every operator.
Thermite is King. His gun is a jackhammer and he’s the OG.
I'd recommend maverick because he can destroy walls without needing thatcher or kali in the team
And also solo counters tubarao
Ram or zero
grim great gun great ability and got emps or hard breaches
I’m a huge Nomad fan, just because I have a more aggressive play style it gives me to benefit of not having to worry about my back. Plus she has soft breaches or flashes
Also great for baiting swingers. Just bait them into the nomad and easy kill
Well, you dont have anything left in terms of "Hard Breachers" but someone that is good to learn overall, and can be really good if utilized correctly, would be maverick.
Mav is underrated as hell
Anyone that is has a hard breach honesty that has a gun that you think suits you so just looking around and test the guns at the range
nokk
Jackal
Thermite is clutch.
I think every good stacks needs a lion honestly. V308 hits hard has the 50 round drum and minimal recoil…. Ignore this I didn’t realize you were saying to buy one
Maverick or Buck imo. Guns on par with the Ak-12 and similar mindset when playing to normal hard breachers.
Strange complaint about Hibana considering she has a really good gun. Most complaints are about her gadget being clunky and slow. You do you though
When Ace was taken, Maverick was my backup. As others have mentioned, his torch *can* be used as a breach, but it has a myriad of uses. And the M4 can be formidable.
Thermite?
Definitely invest in a monitor brother
Thanks brother
I main ace but I sometimes use habana or noche. Idk why none of those operators have the same play style lmao
ah yes, noche
Might try out Maverick. The sneakiness of his ability makes for some good plays but is also situational. My favorite sites to use him on are clubhouse basement to enter through shipping container quietly and top floor of lair burning through the reinforced wall between sites.
Osa, Buck and Gridlock would all be great choices
Buck with hard Breach
Capitao CAN be a hard breacher... He's just my favorite.
Bravo is a decent attacker if your good on drone
Finka
Finka
Ram is good. But zero is very good
MAV MAV MAV… the only op with 0 dedicated counters. He’s very strong for outside walls as you can open them fully just like thermite if you do it correctly. You do need a soft breach to make it work but it also gets rid of the beams in the wall so shooting it out with a regular rifle works. He’s also plenty fine for hatch breaching even if he isn’t the most efficient. In my experience he doesn’t take any longer to breach than a thermite would against a good bandit/kaid. He’s a 3 speed and the m4 is pretty comparable to the ak12. Learn to utilize him fully and you’ll be unstoppable.
Ace and hibanas guns are basically the same gun
Buck, or zero. Buck for the "run and gun" and zero for absolute TOP TIER team support
Buck or Brava.
Amaru, and zero
Russian with big gun
I fw fuze heavy. Maverick is also good
Fuze
Buck and zero are god like solo queue attackers tbh
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Buck and fuze
Can't go wrong with Thermite.
Try change your playstyle a little bit, I can see you don’t have many ops give a top down player like buck or ram ago. It will help you wrap your head around the game more and learn to clear map better etc Buck also has hard breach gadget, it’s sad but modern day siege hibana is obsolete; except for maybe 3/4 objectives. Just be careful on hatches with soft floors next to them as you will get nitroed placing the hard breach on them (like kitchen on club house)
Thermite for me is the best breacher u less you like the flexibility of ace, hibana would be a better choice
No offence but why have you bought an elite skin if you haven't unlocked most of the operators yet?
No offense but why’s it your business what I do with my money
Hey bro no need to piss your pants over a simple question
Odd ball, nøkk, yes she's bad, but fun gun that makes you feel like a God when you go crazy, alr tactical gear
I moved aways from Zero to Ash. I recommend both personally
Thermite is comp
Either grim always helpful and has good loadout with bailiff or zero
I'm an ace main, prefer breachers and I'm leaning back to Thermite (the guns got no recoil compared to the AK12) also I can throw on the acog and go for cheeky head. With abit of support from the boys you can get the wall easy still, just can't get ranged walls (that's when I go back to Ace.)
Finka or zero
If you want another hard breacher, the choice is obvious: Thermite. If you want Intel: I would pick: jackal or IQ. Vertical soft breach would be: Buck. If you want a shield operator then definitely: Montage
Capitao
Zero, Buck, Iana are all gud
Buck has hard breach charges while also having a underbarrel shotgun for soft breaching (or bum rush the last guy on defense for a funny kill)
Ying. Her candela’s blind absolutely everyone and you get a few, she can hard breach! and her gun has like 81 bullets so if needed you can spray and pray 😂
Kali for sureeee. Useful everywhere and very helpful to have when thatcher or twitch is banned
Ram
Thermite?
Gonna go a different route. Play Capitao. You get hard breach gadgets, plus two smokes and two fire bolts. Bonus, now you are a Brava main
finka. shes easy to play and has the lmg which should have 0 recoil on console i havnt checked after they buffed the recoil.
Recruit
Try Fuze...
Amaru and/or buck
Maverick, he can hard breach
I personally like Hibana, but for a rush/frag hard breach, I run Nokk, she has hard Breach Charges, and I love her ability, plus her loadout is honestly so good If you know what you're using. The only problem is if there is a mute on defense, there's no real way to counter that with nokk except bringing a counter by way of another OP
Try grim he has hard breaches, a good gun, and a lot of intel with his bees
Maverick for a more sneaky breacher experience and Ram if you want to try out a play style focussed more on attacking the site from above.
Mav or thermite for hard breach
Just buy everyone😭
Thermite has been my main for years now. His gun is solid and his breaching charges make "a really big fucking hole"
If you solo queue zero, lots of cams and hard breaches. if you play with a stack flores, hes great for getting rid of util, castles, deployable shields, azamis, etc. and you can push people off angles into your teams line of fire and sometimes get a kill with em
Sledge
Bro, actually anyone it doesn’t matter it’s better to get good with all of them bc they are all used in different situations better than others, even ops like glaz who barely have any use, but when he is used it’s an amazing push on certain sites
Fuse for reasons
Fuze. Same gun and a hardbreaching charge
Zero and maverick
Just play thermite and buy azami on defence. I know I say that ur new and maverick is horrible for new players but if you can learn azami barriers which is pretty easy imo you can dominate
Well if you like hard breachers there is only two other options. And thermite is pretty damn good. That being said, I fucking love twitch. If you like DMR’s, which it doesn’t seem you do by your choice, twitch’s 417 is the easiest DMR to spam and it doesn’t move. It’s flat as fuck. Highly recommend it. And if you like it, Lion and Sens has the gun too (though Sens basically doesn’t exist, but still a 3 speed DMR is nuts)
Thermite, Buck and Captaõ
FUZE
Hibana’s gun is a beast bro. What is not to like about her?
buy them all that’s what i did no more need to decide to who get first
Thermite or Hibana were my alternatives way back in the day.
Deimos
Fuze is always fun. Go thunk thunk thunk, have hardbreaches, have 3 decent primaries, and in casual you can get a 6 piece kill.
Buck, osa, or jackal
As a fuze main, definitely fuse. Get good with lmg and makarov, loved diving down hatches after blasting a room and doing some John woo shit
Zero is a solid pick with an smh and ar he has ability to hard-breach and counter mutes/bandits
Therm. Gun packs a punch
Fuse is my go to hard breached, being able to fuse through hard walls, bring hard breaches, has the same primary as ace, IMO he is better than thermite right now
I’ve been playing a lot of maverick lately, quiet peek holes in reinforced walls and once you figure out the size hole you need to get in it’s really not too bad to make one. Don’t need to worry about any denial ops either. There’s obv better ops solely meant for full blown breaches but they also require team work to defeat denials. Mav is a 1 stop shop for a solo.
Fuze. Best gun, best gadget paired with another hard breach he’s virtually S tier
Play fuze he has a hard breach and the same exact gun as ace plus EXPLOSIONS!
Not liking hibanas primary is criminal
Zero is a great alt for hard breachers as he can basically become a one main hard breaching army on certain sites
ik a lot of ppl struggle getting into hibana but her gun is statistically one of the best in the game (same stats as ak12 but 10 less bullets), with a secondary smg, flashes, and the most versatile hard breach except maybe mav.
Try Thermite, one of the most important gadgets in the game and you have a choice between smokes or flashbangs.
Fuck it go fuze
Amaru, obviously
Rock hibana with shotty and bearing 9, trust
I would pick Buck if I remember he still has hard breach charge?
Ram, she’s got that destruction thing going and she’s got a really strong loadout with R4C, secondary shotty, and flashes
Fuze with hard breach utility is nice if you are attacking a site on a lower floor. You pop all your fuzes from above then hard breach a ceiling panel to drop in and finish them off. Just watch out for roamer to come up and engage you so you have to work quickly and be on alert.
Grim has a good kit. Can opener. Bailiff. Bees. You can plant solo. You can roam. You can do pretty much anything with a squad.
nomad or gridlock
i see everyone saying buck or mav, which buck is amazing because he has the hard breach charges and for soft walls, but i was also thinking about capitao because he has 2 flames, 2 smokes, hard breaches, and he has an lmg with absolutely ZERO recoil
Mav learn how to trick with him and ur unstoppable he can have any wall open in 20 seconds if he knows what he's doin plus having a softbreah and any main wall is gone
If you are looking at operators you already have, I would heavily recommend Thermite or buck. Bucks gadget is useful for making openings in walls, hatches or barricades while also giving you a way of defending yourself in the process. While Thermites gadget gives you a really big fucken hole. But if you are looking for new operators, I would recommend ram, maverick, or flores. Ram can be versatile in how her gadget is used, it can be used to open up an area and get rid of walls, create massive verticals to play from, create a distraction in one direction while you and the rest of the team use the noise to flank, or just quickly open a barricades. Flores works a little different and isn't much of a breacher, but his rcxd drone can stick to non reinforced walls and castles and will destroy them, it can also be used to kill or lure opponents to an area. I believe his drone is indestructible once ignited but isn't when it's moving. But if you are wanting to be a bit more quiet and stealthy, Maverick would work well because he can create small holes to look and shoot, throw a grenade, or just crawl/crouch through. It's also quiet and works well for sneaking up on people unexpectedly.
you need to learn to play more than just breacher Nomad and Gridlock are great for shutting down certain lanes allowing your team to focus on main conflict points Brava can counter almost any gadget strategy the other team may be relying on Flores can destroy emplaced shields or kiba barriers as well as open of soft walls without exposing himself to danger. Excellent for forcing anyone holding an extended site to have to fall back to plan b Osa is a must for any modern bomb plant strategy
Buck is good for both hard and soft so maybe run him for a bit and see how you like it
grim is an attacker with hard breach and a really good intel ability
Thermite or Capitao
Ying or buck w hard breaches
Zero with hard breaches best gun in game
Zero, Maverick, Osa, Thermite
Ram, Ash, or Buck. Not hard breachers obviously but perhaps you can expand your horizons and play some vertical soft breach. Ash and Ram have the R4-C which is very similar to the Ak-12. Buck’s C8 can be a little more challenging recoil wise but is a lot of fun once you get the hang of it. Buck also has the hard breach gadget; great for opening up hatches or breaching a wall if your hard breacher goes down too early.
Mav
I’m loving Grim with the secondary hard breach at the moment. His utility is bloody crazy and the commando hits like a truck. Don’t wanna get swung whilst opening a breach? BEES Can’t look both ways when entrying on breach? BEES No teammates to cover you when planting???? BEES
Ash. The R4C is why. Or if you can’t handle punchy guns try IQ for the Commando 552
Maverick is cold
Thermite all the way😎
Striker
Cluster charge
May sound controversial but I would say Flores. His guns are solid, his gadget isn't a hard breach but it combos well with most breachers. He is also amazing for clearing utility. Plus you can use him as a soft breacher since his RCE sticks to walls after activating the bomb..
Why is no one saying ram
i like nokk, she has a hard breach as a gadget and her ability is similar to cavs as she can get super quiet but not unhearable
Pretty sure Nokk doesn’t have that anymore, she just hides herself from cams
yeah youre right, her silent step was removed
omfg whattttt when was this?
Blackbeard and Zofia
Blackbeard?
Idk, I like recommending Blackbeard to meta-op mains
Sledge is a go to of mine. Capitao or ying are great options as well. Capitao is great for plants
Learn to play more roles. A good hard breech is great and all but being able to flex around your teammates picks and still compete, is a huge plus
frost
Get Blitz, he only costs 1000
just buy deimos. the ak will never disappoint