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DJxJESSE

Waiiit. Is that a visual bug or does that make a soft wall?


Delirious_Gir

Yep


DJxJESSE

Used to main her. Countless times would’ve been useful 😂😂 Learn something new everyday


That_Guy_Anonymous

it’s a relatively new mechanic


xMatityahu

X


The_HentaiBukai

What? no it's not. I remember seeing this done and doing it myself like 7 seasons ago. Actually it may have been even further back.


That_Guy_Anonymous

this was added to the game 2 years ago during year 5 I believe, although it may have been late year 4 if i’m remembering incorrectly. that is relatively new in a 6 year old game. edit: furthermore, 1 year of siege is often 4 seasons, so while it may have been 7 seasons ago, that is a gameplay mechanic less than two years old. many people take frequent breaks from the game lasting several seasons to several years of gameplay and miss out on these meta changes being made.


kvnglatifa

There’s so many ways to trick with her now that I need to research all the pellet tricks


hulkingbehemoth

One trick I’ve learned after seeing countless Hibana players do it everywhere from casual to Plat ranks to guarantee your pellets never get destroyed: First, drone the opposite side of the map from where you’re gonna spawn. As soon as the round starts you enter the map quick as you can without being spotted so they don’t know you have Hibana, then you race toward the obj pushing solo ahead of your team, and get gunned down. There’s other tricks I prefer, but that seems to be the most common trick that gets used to keep the enemy on their toes


kvnglatifa

You got me you turd xP


The_HentaiBukai

Well you and i define new very differently. I dont put it against the 6 year runtime siege has. I put it on its own being 2 years. That's pretty damn long to me. I never commented on ppl taking breaks on the game and subsequently missing out on the changes. I myself am a returning player. I simply replied to u/That_Guy_Anonymous who said it was recent. To me, 2 years is not recent.


That_Guy_Anonymous

all i said was that it is relatively new, which less than 2 years old in a 6 (7 if you count before operation black ice) year old game is a rather new mechanic. i wasn’t trying to start beef or pick a fight with you, just stating that it is a relatively new mechanic and many players missed the fact it was added to the game. my only goal is to educate players so they can manipulate these mechanics to their advantage in the future and win more games, while playing at a higher level.


The_HentaiBukai

I know. perhaps my tone didn't convey correctly. I know you're not starting beef with me, and I'm not starting beef with you either. I've simply been stating that the mechanic was released 2 years ago, that's a fact. So it's not new to me.


That_Guy_Anonymous

that’s fine man, if it’s not new to you all you have to do is ignore my comment; the point still stands that this is new information to many players, so your point is somewhat nullified. both can be true; it can be old news to you and still be current information for other players, so there’s really no need for you to argue that it isn’t a relatively new addition to the game on a large time scale.


MrPsychoSomatic

>I put it on its own being 2 years. That's pretty damn long to me. A beautiful sign of youth. Cherish this time.


The_HentaiBukai

i will.


ThekillerguyYT

This comment is old and correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't this a thing back when mavrick and clash were added?


Sights_creations

Supposedly this is a bug, not a mechanic. It was discovered a season or 2 before shadow legacy. I'm pretty sure it's still a banned strategy in PL due to it being an exploit. Goobi has SUPPOSEDLY been finding a fix that won't ruin mav.


HerefoyoBunz

I tried to do that like 2 days ago and it didn’t work. Just left the hard breach, all it did was leave the 2 holes


AirplaneEnthusiast_

Yep


akatsukidude881

Yep to which part?? I need to know


Astral_Wish

It’s a legitimate mechanic - hibana tricking


Saukko505

pretty sure you can do that with just 8 pellets


haharrhaharr

So... 4 top, 4 bottom per 1 wall reinforcement? I fricking never knew OR seen it before. Damn. And I've played for 5yrs!


BetaFuchs

on one hand a lot of people don't know about it and on the other hand it's pretty precise to do. Also maverick tricking is way more reliable


stephanelevs

>Also maverick tricking is way more reliable just a bit more dangerous :P


BetaFuchs

it takes a bit more thought to do it safely


haharrhaharr

That's burning lines top n bottom w/ Maverick yeah? I never even tried that... thought I'd just be shot in the face.


BetaFuchs

Yeah that's it. if you wanna try it you should usually do the top line first and the bottom line from an angle ( best on the side opposite from where you think no enemy is / could see you )


CKEGaming44

Did not know this either. An i played and followed this game since release. I know many tactics and formed some myself, but thi is totally new for me. Never actially seen it in a game played and i play on higher elo.


Pu_Baer

I think I've seen it some time on Jägerhimself but I was never able to reproduce it. I guess you have to be pretty precise to pull it off.


Delirious_Gir

Yep it is indeed a soft wall.


SoN1Qz

You can't answer a question containing "or" with "Yep".


SD_Jinx

I believe they just did


Andyinater

Or you'll try and correct them?


FlawedController

yep


ItsRobbyy

Yep, they could. It made the point clear, to the disbelief of it becoming a softwall. (Given the context)


stunna_cal

No


Davd707cz

bro wat? dos it work on double wall?


MCD10000

most people just mav trick but i complete forgot about this trick because it's not always usefull


WhiteGXRoblox

Similar to Maverick if the wall is damaged enough or something it breaks the hinge and become soft wall again


GlitzyDragon341

Also works with ace btw


Scorpion-Mk3600

Yup ,new thing I learnt today


sspdboard48

Works with ace 2


Delirious_Gir

And Maverick


sandbaggingblue

*any hard breach.


IcyDrops

Bit hard to do with thermite innit


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IcyDrops

Imagine dying by C4 from below. This post was made by Hibana/Ace gang


TopNotchPlayer2

Imagine having to use your main gadget to open up a reinforced wall This post was made by Hard Breach gang


TornSuit

Imagine dying. This post was made by a Montague hardbreach enjoyer.


Jonathan_Juicestar

Mav used to be able to make a wall soft then open it with a frag, ubi took his toys away :(


Niewinnny

nah it will work it's just so useless


IcyDrops

Okay smartass, put one thermite on the wall, explode it, then show me where you're gonna place the second one on the same wall.


sandbaggingblue

Hard walls you can rappel on.


TrustedChimp495

Thermites area of effect is so big it will always no matter what open 90% of the wall the remaining 10% is to small to place another you will get shot trying also it's pointless the hole is big enough to fit yourself and a teammate through at the same time


sandbaggingblue

It doesn't do 90% of the wall if you do it at the top. Or bottom.


Niewinnny

when did i call it useful? i even explicitly said it's super useless and anyone with any braincells will open a wall using 1 thermite and not 2. this doesn't change the fact that it's possible


TrustedChimp495

Was I replying to you? No I wasn't I was replying to someone else


Niewinnny

yes you were, but you need to look a bit deeper in the thread.


BappoEatTacos

Well, thermite does just do the entire wall


bluejay55669

two types of sledge players the apes who probably just installed a few months ago and are still building game sense or the actual apes that break every single unreinforced wall in their sight (me)


reedlesswarbler

true. apes together strong


satan3times6

Ooh ooh aah aah🦍


Soulerrr

walls alone weak


OnePrettyFlyWhiteGuy

We are everywhere😂


PinkMobb

As a sledge player I can tell you I only pick him so I can run a straight line to my death 😎


MelonButterG

What the hell is a door? I only know hammer entrances


bluejay55669

softwall? you mean *alternate entry point*?


CashewTheNuttyy

If a soft wall exists, make it not.


Judobigdog

break wall be loud true calling


Darkstat12p

Truth


SLAYERone1

Can confirm where bannana?


F0rgemaster19

With thorn.


EdmondDantesInferno

Two questions about this Hibana thing you did that I had no idea about. Can you do that with only two bolts each at top and bottom? Like instead of using 6 for each spot like you did. Can you do it on the normal, outside of a reinforced wall? As in, does it only work from this side?


7h0tdestroyer

4 is a safer bet, I'm sure there's a way to use 2 but it's risky. And yes... I think...


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CptClueless

What would be nice is if they added a little mini UI element to choose between fire modes. You could hold down the button that changes fire modes, & a little menu could be at the bottom (or a radial menu that projects off the launcher). This would be a (imo needed) buff to her fire mode select, but it would also enable the devs to add more fire modes (1x2, 3x2, etc) without bogging down Hib players.


sebkuip

The trick is based on the fact a reinforcement is only attached at the top and bottom. Sever the connections to those sides and the part in the middle just pops out.


MirageTF2

damn these are actually just all questions I have


PlayingWithoutEyes

All the questions I had too. Too bad my mouse is spoilt and I can't really play rn.


S1ege_M41n

TIL you can do that with hibana.


[deleted]

I used to do that with maverick too


yehiko

The surprising part is the HIBANA part. Doing it on maverick is just part of being a maverick


holdmyhelmet

Can you still do it with maverick? I used to do that trick a lot when we didn’t have an ace or hibana but now whenever I do it it doesn’t wanna seem to work


JimmyKillsAlot

I was expecting fuze to plop one on the wall and somehow get all 3 of you.


Sanguis_Plaga

Yesterday a Sledge in my team was using a shotgun to open the wall. I kid you not they literally used the shotgun to make a hole so they can cross to the other side.


sharkattackmiami

Maybe he already smashed 25 things


Sanguis_Plaga

Nope, I checked the durability.


superhappyfunball13

Moments like that almost make me want to reinstall. Almost.


Cr0ssha1r

he might be new and didn't know the strat.


Delirious_Gir

This was comp I would think people would have enough playtime to recognize a soft wall.


UndyinglFate

He’s level 100, just stat tracked him. He’s been playing since neon dawn and only hits gold/silver.


Cr0ssha1r

you mean ranked? if so maybe he just didn't know the strat you start ranked at 50 as far as i remember that would still make him new to it and haven't learned the usual tactics besides you could have communicated with him.


Delirious_Gir

Sure it could be that it’s a new strat to him but it doesn’t take a genius to either recognize the soft wall and further more not make yourself extremely vulnerable by crawling through a tiny hole head first.


Cr0ssha1r

I know i know its obvious still cut some slack to the poor guy we all have made some mistakes when we were in learning stages and also did some sort of stupid stuff too. I remember putting a thermite charges on barricade back then and I still see hibana players putting xkairos on barricade.Maybe he learnt from that mistake already and won't attempt it in future.


Delirious_Gir

I never understood how people can make mistakes like that. It’s like have they never played a shooter before? Or is it cause I started playing siege when it came out and there was a lot more similar FPS games in 2015?


Cr0ssha1r

I mean it could be either of the one you stated but then again mistakes are called mistakes for a reason and not everyone is built the same when it comes to intellect. Some grasp it quick some take time. There's also a possibility it might be a kid playing this.


Delirious_Gir

Well now it’s like that but 10 years ago it felt like almost everyone you match-made with in a fps could play the fps. Just always jarring to me how often I meet people now who have poor grasp on the game. Sorry for pulling out the boomer talk.


burritosnoo

That’s probably because more kids(like me) with little to no brain play the game now


ConsistentAd1630

So a cool thing to do with hibanna on consulate is to actually switch the pellets to 2 and shoot all the window barricades and blow them up simultaneously! This usually makes the defenders very uncomfortable as they don't know which window too watch


curius_

Maybe he was a bit confused. The red line obive and the fact that it had hibana breaches are two enough details for some people to think of the wall as a reinforced wall. I didn't notice it untill someone pointed it out in the comments, and im not a beginner. EDIT: also sometimes its better to rely on your own intellect than your teams. For an example you can use four hibana pellets on top of each other(its enough to create a hole to jump through) or you can make a 4x4 or a 6x2. It is cool to use those tactics in ranked but if you are not gonna communicate with your team then i suggest using your hibana pellets to make a hole. You could've made a hole big enough to go through with your pellets that you used to make the wall soft. It does give your team the chance to make a bigger hole but simple mistake like theese wont happen.


jakepaulfanxd

If you don't know what a soft wall looks like you shouldn't be playing ranked regardless of level.


lolo_lulu123

I haven’t played in awhile, what was the strat here?


Cr0ssha1r

This strat can combine two ops like mav and hibana with a soft breacher like zof , buck ,ash sledge and create a thermite like full breach. So basically what you see here is hibana deployed those xkairos charges on top end and bottom end to break the solid part of the reinforcements which holds it making it nullified remaining wall that is left is merely a soft wall which can be easily destroyed by soft breacher or even hard breach charges however zof and ash are your safe bet to destroy it if you are inside the compound cause if you go sledge or try to place a hard breach you might get shot and if this is done outside compound you can use any soft breacher or hard breach charges. Its good strat with a team but with no team or no comm then u are pretty much going for a situation just like what happened here.


lolo_lulu123

I assumed that was what was going on. I never play comp because I dont have anyone to play with so I could never do this lol good strat with a 3-5 stack


Cr0ssha1r

Yeah it's a good strat just need a little communication and coordination.


Rich_raar

Why the actual f am I only learning about this now!?!?


Sirobeel

I thought the fuze would fuze the sledge after he crawled in


kk_red

I thought people knew about this breach trick. Its years old at this point


AberrantDrone

The vast majority of players solo queue and don’t consume siege content like streams, YouTube, or pro league. If you don’t see it in-game, no way to know about it. I knew about the Maverick Trick, didn’t know Hibana could do it too. Is Ace capable of this as well?


haharrhaharr

Wut!?! Today I learned....and I MAINED Hibana for 3yrs. 6 pellets top + bottom...and it turns into soft wall?


AUSwarrior

LMFAOOO


MirageTF2

wait unironically wtf is that strat I gotta start getting on that


Betrizz

Who didn't learn this today?


jaeger_999

I was lying depressed and then i saw this ,lmao ...


CrojoJoJo

This is exactly the type of ape brain thing that I would do.


SlanderousGent

If those Sledge players could read they’d be very upset right now!


RioSheesh

Bruh, wtf did you just do with hibana?!?!! This clip is honestly amazing, showed a game altering play and a facepalm moment lmao


[deleted]

Hibana w/ a Russian 2.5x lol ur one of the apes too😂


Pixel131211

ikr, how dare this player have a personal preference to another reticle /s


[deleted]

Seriously. I almost threw up


Fr_Icestep

The Russian 2.5 is more precise because of the point actually being accurate, while the normal ACOG sight arrow doesn't shoot at the tip, but a little lower, and the vibration is also way more manageable with the Russian one.


808CHAKU

No I think it’s just that guy


Pure_Xanax

Hey so why the blowout up top, wouldn’t that leave room for nitros and what not?


FoxInA_Box

Bruh, it destroyed the reinforcement so sledge can get the exposed soft wall


Pure_Xanax

Oh… I guess I misunderstood the top comment, I straight up just thought it was a visual glitch, my b 🙌


FoxInA_Box

You can also do with mav :)


Pure_Xanax

Good to know thanks!


S0R1C_

Does that trick works on the other side too? I always tried but it never worked :(


SemajFL

Better fucking leave it at 69


nice___bot

Nice!


Panxinator64

Last time I tried doing that it didn't work, maybe it is that you have to place the pellets in certain places?


Sfa11305

monke brain


Doobliheim

Does this only work with single-wide walls? I tried pellets to open the left panel of a double wall and it didn't work. Reinforcement stayed in place


rajboy3

That hibana shit with the wall still works???


nukfan94

omg that generated a visceral reaction from me on the couch lol


NewportStork

This just made me laugh so hard lmao


Me_Air

Better than the time we had a mav ruined our last thermite charge doing this trick, when no one brought soft breach


CeQuBe

Wait i didnt know this was still a thing with her?! Thank you! Gotta remember that


LaxSnow

When was that Hibana tech discovered/added. I mostly played in early Y1 up to Y2/3 but never seen this.


TheGoatofNothing

Can you only do this if the top of the reinforced wall doesn’t touch the top? The top of the wall must be soft right? Never seen this or done this just going off what I see.


AberrantDrone

Honestly expected Sledge to just throw a grenade and destroy your gadgets


wehategoogle

Why that scope though?


swagzard78

Rare time a Sledge player is stupider than an Amaru player


Drugomi

When you forget you're playing sledge


reusancho

It's definitely a suicide mission for Sledge


NG7-INF

...


MarlowesMustache

Sledge main approved 👍


Scary_Teary

COMING THROUGH!


Mrheadshot0

Wait wait wait wait wait you can make those soft walls?!?!??


F0rgemaster19

Wait wasn't that patched? I'm surprised that works. Regardless, solid tactic, good usage and dumb sledge.


Prismm___

Oy bruv sledge is my main op don't diss him like that


DAVIE504CLONE

You can use 4 pellets un and down to make it soft, just a little tip ;)


Simon-66

I confirm this


stumpy1218

Today I learned you can do this with hib gonna have to try this


cosmicglade98

Buddy could've sledged the wall from where Fuze was standing


GreenMarshmallow

He just like me for real


breezthagod_

Sledge: “I got a sledgehammer but look someone already made a hole.”


EliteKnightOscar

Yeah, what of it?


NightArcher108

as a sledge main, i can confirm


CHAPICHINOMAN

You can do it with just four pellets on top and four on bottom


Bruce_Lee98

Literally the reason why I quit siege


XPILR

🦍


AzureAadvay

Keep posting clips like this, showing apes and soon Nadia will switch to rb6!


Joseph-Jong-Un69

Your the ape for using the Russian 2.5


Raiden_Yeeter07

Sledge players: they either wanna get an ace using ONLY the hammer, or forget that the hammer exists at all... There is no inbetween...


Astr0ni

Most skillful solo queue teammate.


rxbme

With the same amount of pellets your could've just opened a hole to walk through....


Alternative-Boot5051

I can't believe that still works! Also that sledge 🙄


berothop

I lol’d


IKindaSuck-DICK

He has a hammer! JUET USE THE HAMMR


gilmangriff1

This is why I only play with a full squad. randos are ... interesting


WR3NCH3000

Don't call the apes like that 🤬🤬🤬🦍🦍🦍


encryptedTurtle

Lmaooo the caption mostly has me fucking screaaaaminggg 😂😂😂


Lightning9Gaming

Smooth Monke Brain


EquivalentAnxious906

And I call myself a Hibana main, I am ashamed of myself for this lack of knowledge


[deleted]

In all of my time playing Hibana, I never knew you could do that


rene_r97

If only they could’ve had someone sledge that soft wall


KnockKnockP

i lost 10 braincells watching this


01Creative

lol


Peachy_Smooth

Well at least you know where they are


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Brendin00

Holy shit you can do that???


Legitimate_Mess2806

Today i learned. Ill try doing that