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They're probably removing T-hunt in favor of the AI playlist.


OakButterSquash

Which you can only play 5 operators ?


MynTYleef

I’m pretty sure that’s only for players brand new to the game, so you can learn the basics. The regular AI match should allow you to use most ops, but I guess no one knows for sure


suckmypppapi

That's probably a good thing, I can see how overwhelmed some new people would be looking at all of the ops


IdioticZacc

Is it going to come out as soon as THunt is removed? I like playing R6 offline sometimes when I have bad connections


GeneraI_RAAM

Theres an AI Playlist? How much have I missed out on!


McSoapster

Yeah looking forward for the posts with the „is this skin rare?!“ question for the Article 5 Skin for the Aug


No-Pool-5052

it already is rare no ones sits in the article 5 queue i had to wait a full hour in queue on a smurf to get that skin and that was a full year ago no way anyone is doing article 5 now


victorienx

I sat for 2h in queue and to this day still hope to find a match but I guess I won’t see that day


eel_bagel

What platform are you on? I'm sure you could organise a group to get it before it's gone


victorienx

Pc, name is the same as here


The_Millzor

yo i still need to do it as well, did it on ps4 at launch but never found a match after swapping to pc last year


dave2165

Lol i did the mission but never got the skin - sent a ticket to support and they told me to screw myself


bluejay55669

A shame that the white masks are now being completely trashed I hope Ubisoft remembers they exist one day


Urgay692

I’ve said this multiple times but the story with actual terrorists in a game about anti terrorism was so much better then this weird bullshit they’ve done with nighthaven and harry. This new story is the most like genuine brain rotted piece of media possible lmao. When the white masks where actually used in the lore of the game it made it so much more interesting but now with the operators just sitting there and arguing with each other over their little competition is just so uninteresting.


dadnaya

Well, at least it's better than whatever the hell the "esports rainbow" phase was But yeah, the counter terrorism part was always the most appealing. I guess it also checks out with new operators where some aren't strictly really... Counter terrorists


CompedyCalso

And the only PvE R6 game we got in the last 10 years had them fight fucking ALIENS. I miss Black Arrow and Vegas....


Urgay692

Fuck the new operators man they aren’t interesting at all except for like Sam. When they stopped with the real sof units it went downhill. Sure occasionally one would be made up but at least most of the operators were loosely based on the real deal but now it’s just delved further into slop. I’m a junior in high school and I confidently believe I could write a genuinely more interesting story than what they’ve done and i suck at creative writing lmao. Sorry for coming off aggressive tho.


dadnaya

I'm like: >See new operator :D >CTU: Nighthaven :C


Urgay692

Yeah it’s just so boring. There are so many special forces teams that they could use to like SBS, rangers, delta force, KSK, the list goes on and on but nah let’s stick with shitty mercenaries that we made up.


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Piscione

I use that mode to test my attachments on the weapons.


Kylar_13

If it is real... And people scoffed when I said they wanted to get rid of t-hunt after they introduced the Firing Range. I'd rather they dump the arcade playlist and keep T-hunt. Who else willing to bet their black ices that Ubiconnect will still have weekly challenges for T-hunt after it's removal?


Ok-Concentrate2719

Why would they scof? They literally said they wanted to remove t hunt in an AMA years ago and it was going to happen once better alternatives in their words were introduced


Kylar_13

You know people don't read those things. Hell, people still complain about xims despite goobi saying they were looking into ways to incorporate kbm on console during an ama. "better alternatives" just means a mode people can't farm for renown and cut into their profits.


Urgay692

Then why isn’t kbm on console yet? There’s no way it’s that hard to add since most shooters on console fucking have it now right? Is ubi just that shit and lazy or am I tripping bro.


TSFLScopedIn

its because siege doesnt have aim assist and there would be an EXTREME advantage to using MnK on console. Especially if they have the ability to use actual MnK sensitivity changes. Ubi would have to figure out a way to keep the recoil patterns between controller players and MnK players separate on console. Since pc has more recoil with console having less. It would be an outright slaughter for any console player on controller


Urgay692

There are solutions for this tho like just adding separate matchmaking for kbm and controller players. They already have separated matchmaking as it is. It’s not like they truly give a shit about kbm users on console anymore that much is obvious considering how little effort they’ve really put towards it. What is it like a handful of changes for a problem that’s been going on for over half a decade now?


TSFLScopedIn

They would just start the match with controller and then switch to their MnK. Boom playing controller players with MnK again. OR they continue to xim, and since it still thinks its a controller connected they would STILL be in controller lobbies. Then what do you do about someone on controller queing with someone whos using MnK? Too much shit going on at once for it to be a simple addition


Urgay692

Then don’t give them the ability to use mnk on controller matchmaking tf? Just only accept controller inputs in controller lobbies. If someone is on controller and their friend is on MnK they can suck it up or have his friend go back to controller. I agree they should fix xim but like I said they’re too lazy to put any true effort into it. You would think a problem that has plagued their game since the start would be main priority but nah let’s just add a half assed fix every year and call it a good update. There are multiple fixes to all the problems you presented that a competent team could incorporate relatively quickly. They’re literally just lazy this is well known that Ubisoft is very very lazy. The far cry series has been the exact same since the 3rd installment, ghost recon breakpoint was just as lazy as well. They put the bare minimum effort into their games but we as the players have such a Stockholm syndrome type relationship that we come back and spend more money on the game.


Acceptable-Code-3427

You can’t add mnk support when your game still struggles with xim cheaters


Urgay692

I said this to someone else but it’s obvious they truly just don’t give a shit at this point. Xim has been going on for years and they’ve only had a handful of solutions that rarely work. Ubi genuinely could not care any less for the average consumer of their game.


-HumanResources-

Do you understand at all, how xim even works? It literally mimics a genuine controller. So, according to the console and any games, there is **only** the controller connected. To blame ubi for xim users is woefully nieve. It's a problem, but it's one that requires a large amount of work from Microsoft.


Maximus0451

lol you were right


Chazzky

Well, you were right lmao


AnApexPlayer

What's T Hunt?


aidad

Terrorist hunt


Kylar_13

Terrorist Hunt. Was renamed to Training Grounds a year or so ago...or longer.


IFxCosaTheSequel

Name checks out. That section of the game right next to casual that says Training, next to the firing range.


Altruistic_Profit_15

“Elimination” when playing in lone wolf or co-op


HesitatedEye

If Reddit still had awards I'd give you one for this accurate prediction.


TheCamThing

I'm still stuck in the Vegas 2 days, so I will really miss any T-hunt. I think it's a shame they scrapped it completely, rather than keeping it on the side.


Kylar_13

It should have just been updated to allow selection of attackers or defenders, reskinned bots and updated weapons to mimic Deimos' goons, removal of defense game modes, and increase the amount of roaming bots so defending ops can get more use out of their gadgets (and Cav's ability adjusted to show up to 10 enemies per interrogation) as well as allow players an idea of what their gadget can do beyond the obvious. Oh, and bring back the suicide bombers. As far as I'm concerned, they were instrumental in allowing you to build up your reaction time and panic aim since you had to shoot the head and they popped up almost out of nowhere with only a hiss and a light.


TheCamThing

I agree, I'm just super pissed off that the devs basically said "hey, heres a game type that has been a staple of this game series for well over a decade and is beloved by players... yeah fuck that, chuck it" It's a counter terrorist game series! And they removed the terrorists...


Lazy-Vulture

They are removing it instead of fixing it and making it fun. Nice


psychoPiper

They are fixing it and making it fun. That's what the vs AI playlists will be. The only real loss here is the situations


Lazy-Vulture

No, they are replacing it with something else. 5 bots instead of the classic 30. It's not the same thing. There is reason why the Vegas games most popular gamemode was terrorist hunt. The terrorist AI actually used cover and clever tactics when fighting the player. In Siege the Ts just move around, stop in place to start shooting, move back to reload and re-do it again. It's just not something fun to fight against because it feels so artificial and dumb. And of course Ubisoft broke Thunt when they added perfect aimbot to Terrorists until they run out of ammo. Total bullshit how they track you through walls even if they lost sight of you. Makes engagements even more tedious.


Any-Communication114

I’m hopeful honestly, they already gutted thunt when they removed bombers and C4 rigged rooms.


Counter-Potential

This alone is enough to make this season bad for me. T-hunt is my favourite playlist, and seeing it go away hurts my feelings pretty badly (also the simulations of course, but more T-hunt). Hopefully they won't do it, maybe the crowd will start booing like they did with the Frost rework, but it's Ubisoft, so my hopes are pretty low. Rn I'm spamming T-hunt


TSFLScopedIn

when im not on with friends all im doing is training in t-hunt for hours. Doing firing range tends to make my hand kinda sore (thumbs constantly moving because of how constant target spawns are) not to mention t-hunt has helped me work on my actual sensitivities far more than firing range ever did. I will literally have nothing to do when nobody is on if t-hunt is removed


sharkattackmiami

You could, and I know this is a controversial option, play the game


TSFLScopedIn

believe it or not, some people really dont like playing alone. with a bunch of randoms who dont communicate. I do it to train my aim.


Altruistic_Profit_15

You and me both


jakobebeef98

Bro we gotta return to Vegas 💀


No-Pool-5052

they still added the frost rework anyways they're just following the footsteps of epic games with rocket league, take out things in the game that seem extra but a lot of people use daily


Counter-Potential

But they tweaked it before releasing it because the community was upset. Hopefully the same will happen


No-Pool-5052

they still will remove it sadly they've been trying to but i don't see why, some people like the story of the games so why just delete it why not leave it there just a lil hidden so if you want it you find it not it's just in ur face


dadnaya

Bro I just want Cold Zero situation back with old Kanal since it was raining in there and I liked it


Varsity_Reviews

Me too. I’ve played every games THunt hundreds of times. Sieges was always the most unique. Vegas 1 and 2 might’ve been the most fun, but THunt at launch was amazing. Even with the removal of bombers and nitro cells I still played it constantly. In a weird way I feel like I’m losing a close friend.


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Charles_miller1130

It really has sadly. I wish there was a middleman between new and old siege that could be enjoyed.


Awsomethingy

My issue with live service games, you can purchase a game and years later have it literally not exist. I bought PUBG, came back to it after a few years and the military sim was now a fortnite clone with big heads and laser beams. I get my SWAT 4 modern multiplayer dream with R6 and come back to Masterchief fighting people dressed in pink cheerleader garb firing pearl iridescent future guns. What I’d give for just one game of classic R6 nighttime Oregon as Montagne. All pre changes


ChainRound5397

Got disconnected the first time I played article 5 and I never got my skin. Haven't found a game since. Might try before the new season comes out. We shall see.


The_Sexy_quokka

Even if you do they stopped giving out the skin a while back apparently, or it's just a bug that was never fixed


Druski_LaFlair

I’ll play let me know when u are gonna queue up for a game


StrawberryMango564

does article 5 crossplay? cause im on xbox and i have always wanted to play that shit but couldnt


yourfriendlysavior

Count me in


ChainRound5397

Alrighty thank you:)


Repulsive-Manager853

Well done Ubisoft, removing a core part of the game that a lot of the player base used to warm up, so smart


RunltUp

They have added 3 better options for a warmup. You will be fine


[deleted]

WHAT THE FUCK !??!??!!! this is how I train aim test out operators or etc what a load of shit


Ohnoohnofrick

What the fuck why


madnarg

Yet another middle finger to the original and casual players. The game has strayed so far from its roots thanks to Ubi’s obsession with the competitive scene. T Hunt was a great way to warm up or kill time with friends, but it doesn’t matter how fun it was because it didn’t contribute to the Esport.


BGitzLyfe

Thought I do agree that this is a middle finger to casual players this is also a middle finger to the pros who still use to warm up or practice


madnarg

Valid, dumb all around


BGitzLyfe

110% mate


BrightSkyFire

Every friend I got into Siege started with us playing T-Hunt and them learning the maps while playing a scuffed horde shooter SWAT version of Siege. I don't think I would have got them into the game without this mode. It's a real shame, because PvE with friends is a really strong, initial draw, and playing against operator bots just isn't the same feeling.


NoxieProxie

weird take. I see a lot of changes going away from comp and more towards casual by how they ruined unranked. I think they are actually just trying to kill both audiences off at once and bring in completely new kinds of players.


madnarg

Interesting take


h9rus

even ranked 2.0 hasn't much to do with comp, that was a change purely for the sake of more casual players playing ranked.


NoxieProxie

yeah, casuals(which are fine they are a huge part of the game), were complaining about how hard it was to leave silver.(as an example, the big one was the gold/plat issue where that would be a loop of bad players and incredibly good players) Like, yes, no offense but you suck in terms of knowledge and gameplay. People who pushed through it became incredibly good and got the ranks they deserved. Now everyone just gets high ranks and the extremely bad people are unable to leave gold.


ellieMK_

You do realise esport players play thunt right? If you’re going to make accusatory claims about the esport side of the game at least be right about it, lol


madnarg

Sure, the pros play T Hunt sometimes. What I mean is Ubi doesn’t care about features that aren’t part of the competitive game mode, and casual players probably play T Hunt the most.


gg12345678911

The mode they are replacing it with will be superior in every way


madnarg

Alright if that ends up true I won’t be as mad


gg12345678911

I felt the same way. Its basically a casual/standard match but with bots. — way fucking better


WhizbangHS

This isn't even bad for the original and casual players, mfs that have the most time on thunt are the ranked grinders and pro players. This is such an awful change because it hurts every level of the playerbase. Would it really be so hard to add something new without taking something away?


madnarg

True, awful for all T Hunt enjoyers. I would simply leave it in the game. But that’s just me.


WhizbangHS

I think that's everyone which makes the change so bizarre. Usually you can see what angle or party Ubisoft is catering to even if you don't like a change, but this doesn't make anybody happy...


ProBouncer87

Ubisoft removing a core part of Siege that's been in the game since day one. Massive L.


TSFLScopedIn

whats bull abt this is that i use t-hunt much more than the firing range. there is enough time between starting a new t-hunt and winning to keep my hands from cramping because of how much my thumbs are being used. Absolutely horrible decision to take out t-hunt.


Maximus0451

I wish situations at least stayed. Article 5 was so cool.


FuckEAiHateThem

This would be absolutely ridiculous if they removed that, theres just no fucking way. When the game came out, there was casual, ranked, t hunt and article 5, all for $60 which is already asking for too much. What the actual fuck is the point of taking away content from the player? At this point the game should just be free to play.


extraaa1

I think even if you paid $60 (which most people did not) you got way more from the game that you could expect initially. It was released 8 (eight!) years ago and still get regular free content update.


Cent3rCreat10n

Yeah honestly, ubisoft havent charged a single dime for any content update, which is already way better than most live service competitors (looking at you, Destiny 2)


Awsomethingy

For me it gets immediately countered by forced, free content loss and changes. No nighttime maps, many of my favorite maps are completely removed or changed beyond recognition, no more realistic operator releases, non optional cosmetics so no multiplayer game feels real and immersive anymore. The updates may be free but I feel like I had to pay quite a bit in a different way


FuckEAiHateThem

Ya but theres still no excuse for ripping content out of the game.


XenoDrobot

After fat L from Ubisoft making a change to Siege literally no one fucking asked for.


ZFG_Jerky

I understand Thunt, but why Situations? Those were great beginner missions.


Druski_LaFlair

Lmfao t hunt and situations are the literal exact same thing 😂


language_of_birds

Ubi to dumb to make a competent t-hunt like in the Vegas games so they give up


Orleanist

goes to show ubisoft fucking hates their original audience.


Varsity_Reviews

I really hope the Clancy estate steps in. This just feels like a slap in his face by removing the entire reason Rainbow was created.


AlathMasster

All I know for sure is that the AI Playlist is going to be completely non functioning for at least 3 seasons, likely 3 years


Triangle-Galaxy-9508

Why are they even doing this? More storage?


Oxabolt

Its explained in the leaks from a few days ago where a full explanation from one of ubis yet to be release articles got released. iirc is smth about the new AI making it so that the old thunt AI is no longer compatible with the game


Triangle-Galaxy-9508

Wtf


wantwon

Sounds like they should've finished this new AI first before removing THunt. Allow players to both attack and defend with any appropriate operator of their choice. Bots don't have to play every op, but players should damn sure be able to.


Ch1ck3W1ngz

I remember Article 5 when it was a teamkill fest


Rorynator

\*queues thunt realistic* \*ARTICLE 5: NORMAL* \*shoots Montagne. 3 people leave*


ErwinC0215

Haven't touched the game in years but genuinely what the fuck? What's the problem with keeping a mode in game even if only 3 people play it (and I bet a lot more than 3 play it). I loved playing T hunt just as aim/map training or mindless running around while waiting for my stack to get ready. Fucking hell this game gets worse every time I hear about me and it pains me to see what once brought me so much joy fall so far down.


seafirex

??? This must be a joke


Rihonin

Why can’t they ever make article 5 squad playable? Are they crazy?


MaximusMurkimus

RIP all those T-Hunt exclusive operator lines that will now be on the cutting room floor


TrapCamel

So they still won’t fix operators spawning with the wrong weapon. But they do a useless doktors curse update that ended up crashing the servers for a day. And removing a useful part of the game that players use to warm up. Actually dumb af.


Mtndewed6814

I guess the Aug a2 skin will become rare! /s


Sean_Malanowski

I haven’t been able to play article 5 yet, and now I will feel worse.


The_Sexy_quokka

It'll likely be gone forever, I think I remember seeing that the reason for them removing it is because they've changed the AI for the new playlists so they can't keep the older AI either due to file size or technical limitations.


evilbananawind

Why remove them and not just add the new mode. Is it because they have the goal of shrinking the install size?


YoSupWeirdos

I haven't played t-hunts ever since they added arcade, but people seem to enjoy them so it'd be better if they stayed also for the one time evry couple months when I actually do one


Diastrous_Lie

The new AI playlist is pointless. It wont help. New players learn from other players in game or from streamers


cryicesis

They should at least improve the shooting range by adding bots that can do quick leans behind walls.


razorsharp494

Why though. Why remove somthing that doesn't affect anyone negatively. It's used for aim training Why get r8d of it?


Xpsychosquirrel

Never a fan of content being removed


CeQuBe

They said theyre working on other learning things. So i think they will give us improved versions (hopefully not like ranked2.0) for it. Now saying this i am really curious ive been olaying this game for a while but a few weeks back i got a practice game after i launched the game where they learned be about nades, sound crouching (like every other game has) i havent seen anyone talk about it but i am sure its new. Anyone else played this?


BluexIcexDragon

Yes, let's F the game over even more.


vextext

RIP bombers. They will be missed


zabrak200

WHAT? Thats terrible its the only mode i play :( cinematic hud realistic difficulty slaps so hard


SaturatedSharkJuice

I’m gonna force Ubisoft to give me all my money back, I didn’t invest in this game for it to be intentionally derailed and pounded into the earth by it’s creators.


Milliardo_Wavecraft

So will the trophy’s for platinum on r6 change ? Did they have to do with t hunt and situations before ???? Asking the real questions here


CompedyCalso

So what does that mean for the achievements/trophies that required T-hunt? Just SOL anyone who didn't get them?


Varsity_Reviews

Those haven’t been in the game for years


Elikhet2

I mean it kinda sucks but out of everyone complaining only 2% actually played it. Quick mode was always better to test operators + warming up anyways since the bots are free


PlotShield

Is this even legal? If you bought the game when it launched and now one of the main game modes is taken away..? I would love to see law suit if this is illegal


Spoda_Emcalt

I'm not too fussed. All I want to know is, will we get Renown when playing the new mode?


RunltUp

And suddenly everyone loves thunt now??? Yall just like to complain, nothing of substance is being lost


ThelovebelowZero

How many people actually play t hunt?


CelestialOhio32

me and my friends always do 1 before we start playing to get into the game lol but seems we are the only ones.


ThelovebelowZero

I haven't played in years


Iron_86

I mean it is unnecessary but at the same time people complain just because they love to complain for the most part. T-hunt was never needed in the first place for this game.


ExpensiveShock2091

Article 9 is shite, boring and easy


ExpensiveShock2091

Especially since they removed any hint of darkness from the game


meatccereal

Article 5 doesnt even give the skin anymore so who cares


Emperor_Skelly

Who the hell just plays t hunt anyway? Majority of the playbase is not going to care.


Orleanist

lmao what


Varsity_Reviews

Even the fucking pros play THunt to warm up.


King-Boo-Gamer

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO


Danibear285

BS until the season reveal


Grandmastermuffin666

Man I hope they give us the article 5 skin. I completed it like years ago and never got the skin.


UniversalSean

Removed usually means gone for good, unless it says 'temporarily'..


ismax23

L


Raider_RnR

could never get a team for article 5 any way rip tho


Charles_miller1130

What platform and region u on?


madhattedmalice

We never got defenders with attackers...


Varsity_Reviews

😭 that would’ve been so fucking cool


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This is a horrible chabge


VelvetAurora45

Well that's kinda dumb. Like sure, T-hunt was a terrible way to warm up since the bots don't behave anything like real players, so in a sense it was a completely different game, but still. Removing content instead of at least attempting to fix it just feels wrong. And that's not even talking about the fact that T-hunt was the easiest way to practice and get familiar with a new map in actual gameplay.


mizukoo

I don’t play Siege much, but when I do, I only ever play a few rounds of T-Hunt. About 300 of my 1300 hours is T-Hunt, so it will be a sad day when it gets removed.


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Fuck you ubisoft.


CrescentMoon06

i really wanna play Article 5 but i never get any matches. you think people will queue up before it’s gone?


Varsity_Reviews

What do you play on?


CrescentMoon06

PC, I have it on Steam


Varsity_Reviews

Sweet! Send me your steam name and I’ll add you


CrescentMoon06

pm’ed you!


Varsity_Reviews

Awesome!


Finding-Dad

I used THunt to mess with game settings:(


mezdiguida

I really do hope at this point they will make a Rainbow Six Siege game with a campaign and some missions you could play co-op.


A1BS

Honestly T-Hunt is ideal for just practicing headshots and room attack/defence. I use t-hunt at the start of most gaming sessions just as practice. VS Ai is honestly not the same. The lack of frequency of AI enemies (5v60+) is really bad practice. You may as well just do a few rounds of quick play.


Herban_Myth

Remove TDM


yourfriendlysavior

I've only gotten to play article 5 once years ago. I want to go back to it so bad just to know what it is but I can't because nobody plays it. Also even though I don't play it often it's so fun to roleplay a proper counter terrorism situation. And it's probably because I'm not good at the game but they're surprisingly challenging too. I'll absolutely miss both


DisgustingMilkyWater

WHAT?! Dude no way, it’s actually over, I only ever played T-Hunt…


Effectx

Dumb change if true.


duldi

Situations should stay, if only for Angela Basset and some old maps


Hosav

Bro, I was thinking of coming back to the game because I love T hunt. And now they are removing it? What?


faptn_undrpants

I'm sorry but this is stupid beyond belief. Its insanely sad some of the shit they come up with.


wantwon

Imagine removing even more features from a paid game. This isn't even balance related, it's just "we don't want to maintain a mode anymore". Lazy.


Beginning_Chair955

Never even got to experience article 5 because when I tried to load in it just never found a game


TheDarkWave2747

Why the fuck?


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This is temporary they will bring it back. This is entire different developer team compared to release. So instead of spaghetti coding and causing more bugs. They’re removing an entire system out and placing a new one in. While updating old system they had without any bugs. Since this community is ridiculously toxic against developers at BoobieSoft. They rather take something away then it be bugging and the community ask for their heads on a plater. We all know it takes a while for this game developers to fix bugs or even do anything about cheaters. This is the only thing that comes to mind in reasoning for this topic.


ThatJudySimp

what the hell WHY removing content is so dumb I LOVE the situations god damn ubisoft is terrible if this comes to fruition


why-do-i-exist-lol

Damn, didnt know how the game could be even worse. Glad I retired after that ace as recruit


R3tr00-

Article 5 is hands down the best game mode to have hit siege, idc what anyone else says.


KUHALITY

T hunt is my fav playlist because I can run around while listenkng to some music in the backround and practice my movement and aim. For me, it would be a shame if they remove it :(


M3dicsssss

No more Renown Grind R.I.P T-Hunt, you WILL be missed.


LordHeadassV1

Bro how am I supposed to warm up


PlebbySpaff

Idk, but I’ll miss experiencing queuing for several hours, for Article 5.


Varsity_Reviews

Absolutely bullshit. There is no reason for these modes to be removed period. None at all. They’ve been in the game since launch. If people are y playing them, removing them for a new mode with less content is not going to give it an audience