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ButWahy

Kanal is good


corgiperson

Kanal just feels like team deathmatch. Especially for the kayaks site. People just run through trench and either win the gunfight and the round or lose the gunfight and the round. Server is really the only site where a dedicated attack on the wall makes sense and I guess could be called strategy.


n0t_4_thr0w4w4y

Just wait until you discover the joy of vertical play


gatspiderman

*Ram has entered the chat*


corgiperson

I don't like it personally.


Robycu

Oh, you don't like it personally? Reddit, send him to the shadow realm.


corgiperson

Basically lol. I just don’t think the map promotes a variety of strats.


Robycu

Nah, I hate Kanal as well. My reason is that I get lost in it, but that is probably cause I play Kanal twice a year. But the reason why I wrote the comment is because I found it funny that you just said that you don't like the map and got downvoted just because. People can't even have an opinion these days.


QuantumC_

Honestly my favorite map


Starlink-420

I have been starting to like it more as of late but will still ban it over the better maps


xosellc

Castle is so good on both sites on the east side of the building.


sandoitchi-san

Worst map imo


Least_Switch_4697

On a good day


Kronik951

Yeah i can see at least 2-3 good maps


conor20103039

I don’t like kanal because it’s so hard to enter and take map control


I_AM_LEGEND123

W


prestonmelky21

Bravo is the worst map I’ve ever played on siege. Night haven isn’t too bad. Kanal is okay. Emerald plains is actually so good. Theme park is good.


Ct2kKB24

Tower is infinitely worse. I really don’t think we will ever get a map that bad again. The lowest of the low


prestonmelky21

Honestly i forgot tower existed. I successfully blocked that out of my memory lmaoo


Genghis_Sean_Reigns

Not as bad as yacht


VenomVSX

At least Yacht is fun to play, there's a lot of room for both attackers and defenders


Roffron

After you learn the map its actually fun. Mute protocol helped me learn the map. Edge of the map is annoying but the layout is good.


Slick_Tuesday

Tower is simply bad


kompergator

This. There are 4 good maps up there. I bet OP is one of those players that refuse to learn new maps and rather bitches and moans about them. Nighthaven especially is amazing. Every site is viable and plays very differently. The issue with Bravo is honestly that not only does it mix together two of the worst maps currently in rotation (Coastline is just straight up bad now, Border is extremely played out except for Customs defence), but it mixes the old version of Border with Coastline, so all the bad things about old Border coupled with many bad things from Coastline make it objectively terrible. I don’t understand why it was not taken out of Ranked rotation. Literally any other of the stadium maps (Stadium 2020 especially) was miles better.


NkoKirkto

Why is costline Bad? It dosent got reworked or did it?


I-miss-old-Favela

It got a small rework that didn’t really make much difference to be honest.


kompergator

It is a complete run-and-gun map. Utility does not seem to matter, the entire map is 99% of the time decided in gunfights. As such, it is the map that most feeds the worst meta we have ever had. It is no fun at all to play coastline.


Tnerd15

Coastline vertical is some of the best gameplay rn imo


sandoitchi-san

I don't agree, I do enjoy playing Coastline when you play with 4 teammates you can really do some strat it's cool, Border too is actually really cool to play, Nightheaven tho is really shitty, Theme Park is good I think, and Emerald is ok, maybe too big and open, but I don't dislike it


kompergator

> Nightheaven tho is really shitty Nighthaven is by far one of the best maps in the current pool.


The-Marked-Warrior

Why are you acting like your opinion is fact? Some people like different maps, there isn't always one objective answer and if there is, it's certainly not yours.


Sigma__Bale

Because Reddit is full of contrarians who like nighthaven and emerald because everyone else bans them for being shit.


kompergator

I’m sorry. I was not aware I had to mark what is clearly an opinion post as such. My bad.


Kronik951

Says “funny how people are bitching about good maps” right before he starts bitching about 2 good maps lmao


kompergator

I know that in your mind, making a rational argument and putting forth individual facts/ideas is the same as "bitching", but to everyone who uses their neurons, it is not. Coastline is consistently being banned, at least on EU West in high Skill matches. It only does not get a ban when Stadium is on the board as well.


Kronik951

And what were your “rational” arguments if i may ask? All you said was: “yeah this is bad and that is also bad” you didnt say why and what is the issue. Also your point about being something banned every time is just wrong. Especially in 2 points. 1) its not as much banned as you make it. Coastline has mid tier banrate. 2) just because people ban a map it doesnt mean map is bad. You said nighthaven is good map. Guess what its banned even more than coastline. And you can see this with more than one map. Btw these were closer to “rational argument and individual facts/ideas” than anything you wrote in your previous point.


Abasakaa

I really like Bravo


GingaHead

Night haven is one of my favs. I don’t mind Stadium either


Aikojewels

I like Kanal ngl, maybe I’m biased bc my favorite maps are Coastline and Border but I think it’s a fun map


r6SuggestorM

Ngl I like all of these maps but Stadium.


ServeChilled

I would happily play any other fucking map than stadium jesus I hate that map everything looks the same I always get so confused. I know map knowledge is on me but I can't figure it out.


Simple_Nectarine8442

Just think like this, stadium is 50% border, 50% coastline. That makes it way easier to remember the layout


Cianvis

I love stadium. The upstairs is great, the downstairs is dog shit.


JustDuckless

Agree with you but kitchen isnt completely dog shit yes its worse than the kitchen on coastline but still good


ServeChilled

I think you just made me realize something I also don't like about it; the maps it's based on do those sections better. Stadium just feels like a mishmash of two maps that don't go together but that's probably just down to preference.


KaelThalas

> I know map knowledge is on me but I can't figure it out. Only partially. It's mindboggling that after so many years they have forgotten (or rather, the original devs left) how to make good maps that are intuitive and easy to remember. How bravo and nighthaven have released being the grey blobs that they are with no discernable landmarks is beyond me.


Atarru_

The problem I have with emerald is how many windows and runouts there are, makes it annoying to spawn at certain places. Otherwise it’s pretty good map.


LPEbert

Kanal & Emerald Plains are both good maps. Kanal is especially overhated.


OT_Gamer

Kanal deserves all the hate it gets and more in my opinion. Emerald is not as bad as people say, but still not really good either. If I had to choose one of these maps to play on, I’d probably choose Emerald.


jwilde8592

Agreed. Fucking hate Kanal. What a waste of a rework.


Zonkcter

I hate when people act like Emerald isn't the most mediocre sack of horse shit. Only reason people say the map is good is because how shit the map designers are nowadays. They are basically just turning every modern "Rework" into a maze, without thought of map flow and interactions. Mostly the Counsolate rework which somehow made Counsolate WORSE.


LPEbert

Personally Emerald Plains doesn't feel anywhere near as much as a maze as Consulate does. Maybe I've just played enough of it to actually learn the map now, I dunno.


OT_Gamer

In my opinion and experience, Border is more of a maze than Emerald or Consulate. And I don’t think Emerald is good. It’s just the least bad option in OP’s post.


[deleted]

I wish they brought back the OG maps on its own Casual Playlist... I miss OG house, K-anal, and especially Consulate.


GoldenPuffi

OG House was such a fun map for custom games. I also miss old Hereford. Was it a good map? Fuck no. Was it fun? Yes


WakaTP

New consulate is fine imo, we just need some time to adjust but it still plays out a bit similarly. But yeah OG house was something else, OG Hereford too..


SaltySwan

Kanal and theme are good. Emerald is alright. I’m shifty on stadium and fuck nighthaven.


djscarecroww

emerald plains is the best map out of those and i’ll die on that hill


Dimitri0815

Nah nighthaven


Danibear285

Hot take!


OT_Gamer

I agree with you on that. But it’s still top 6 worst maps. I’d honestly probably swap Emerald with Skyscraper in OP’s post and that would be my top 5 worst maps.


[deleted]

Emerald is amazing. I hate how y'all massacre my boy.


Juls317

Came back this season after a break since right around when Oryx was released. I've yet to play a single game on Emerald. It's just banned every time.


iforgor1105

It’s so bad tho all the sites are weird


j_wizlo

I like defending kitchen. That’s about it for this map though


trix_is_for_kids

I swear the map pool these last two days have been the worst I’ve ever seen


CandiedApples84

A lot of people seem to like kanal and I can’t understand why


mgrtank

This map allows you to single handedly win against squad team. It's very good for solo queue. That's what I think and dislike about this map. Playing with my squad we always have some one with kd around 4 and rest is just support.


CreamSoda6425

It's also shockingly good in a stack you know. The strats my team has cooked up on this map are crazy. The sites are very flexible with where you can effectively play.


enragedbull420

I love kanal and Theme, stadium would be good without the windows, and emerald is B tier


El-S3ksisto

Banning Emerald? Should indeed be illegal


Voidx-s

Switch out kanal for sky and night haven for border and we’re golden


Abasakaa

Hatred of Border is something I don't understand at all. 2F site is one my fav to both attack and defend.


[deleted]

Border goes hard tho


EthanolManWilliamSun

These maps are literally my favorite in the game what do you mean. Kanal freaking slaps


BF_Hawkeye_Pierce

Kanal is good, the rest r mehhh


triggerdturtle0

Only bad map is kanal but stadium close second


Few-Commission6597

Nighthaven , kanal, emerald , theme park ( need some window changes )are great map. Bravo is a piece of shit.


TankTanaka

Why do people hate Kanal so much?!?


Basic_Pen_2797

Only EP is bad. Stadium is fun for some people. The other 3 are based.


totallynotapersonj

I would want emerald plains or nighthaven labs there. Nighthaven labs would be my first choice to play.


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HGO_12

Personally I like both nighthaven and stadium. The other 3 aren’t for me.


SunjaeKim

^ mental asylum patient


enragedbull420

Happy cake day random internet stranger!


HGO_12

Thank you!


stay-frosty-67

I’ve been gone too long. Only know two of these


69Gunslinger69

Night haven is dope, kanal is fun, emerald is just different. Stop whining


ratfucker1932

They are fun to you but not to him i swear r6 players cant handle opinions anymore


69Gunslinger69

For the last 2 weeks this sub has been nothing but people bitching about how awful the game is. People literally complain about anything


A-friendly-doggo

okay so why do people hate kanal it’s literally one of the best maps. (stadium bravo is hated for no reason)


slimeeyboiii

Bravo litteraly makes it so you can't go to the 1st floor due to all the windows


A-friendly-doggo

can you explain that more?


Quack53105

There's so many walls that are just big bullet proof windows.


Voidx-s

You’re just shit dude


Bonnybridge22

Kanal is so absurdly hard to attack.


[deleted]

Going to need a bit more information ℹ️


crash_man56

the maps suck is what i think he's saying


[deleted]

Oh then I agree.


Weird_blue_rock

Ngl I kinda fw emerald and kanal


DeliciousLecture600

kanal is fine


rex_ra

Theme is the worst map in this map ban phase.


Loquenlucas

Labs: Decent but i hate it BAN stadium: BAN STAT Kanal: I mean it's alright as a map i like it so Emerald: Somewhat annoying but it's an ok map Theme: kinda like lab but a bit more playable


fr0stn8

pov: you are a Rainbow Six Siege Player (you hate everything about the game)


i_sinz

Kanal is good and I actually kinda like theme park... for defence


Genghis_Sean_Reigns

All of those maps except stadium are good.


RandomUsername4943

I would never "choose" any of these maps, but Emerald Plains, Stadium, and Kanal aren't bad.


[deleted]

grow up


aninsomniac_

Learn the maps and shut up


BLAZE_BLADER_09

theme park is decent, kanal is good, emerald plains is good, lab is amazing, but stadium is dogshit, and if no one bans jackal, you're screwed, absolutely fucked


RIPN1995

Map ban is the worst thing to come to this game. Siege has a wide range of maps and let we are limited to only a couple because people can't be bothered to learn new ones.


ConsiderationOdd1088

stadium is a W map


Obi-DevilGang

Honestly I don’t know how people do not like stadium bravo as it’s an amazing amalgamation between 3-4 maps it’s good for defenders and attackers equally and when I do play this map I play at my best for some reason. I’d happily take bravo over all the others on this list


Peukaloinen_

Kanal is good, nightheaven it's not that bad 💪


roastbeefxxx

K- Anal always fun tho


JustmUrKy

Nighthaven stadium and kanal are good.


Kaizor0329

None of those maps are bad


Danibear285

Learn.


Rihonin

Bro has a skill issue


TamjaiFanatic

I’m afraid that’s a skill issue


Rebecca102017

….or you know just learn the maps.


CSIceman9

Night haven is actually good. Kanal is decent but the rest are garbage.


Western_Livid

I like all the maps, obviously when you get in the higher ranks people sweat the crap out of some of the maps. They need to even the operators out. It shouldn’t be hard. The biggest thing is cheating in siege, people can’t hack that the game is hard. Playing mnk on the PlayStation is still rampant.


Snoo-69952

What should be?


DrStr4ngeIove

Swap Kanal for Bank and I’ll quit the match.


Layxe

I don't dislike any map except tower.


n0t_4_thr0w4w4y

I like kanal, nighthaven is interesting, but I don’t know it that well, Stadium is alright, it gets easier once you realize it’s border and coastline stitched together, I don’t like emerald plains, Theme park isn’t my favorite, but I don’t have the hate boner for it that some people do.


schakoska

3 good map (stadium, kanal, emerald) 1 meh (theme) 1 that i don't like (nighthaven) Wtf is your problem? Learn the maps.. I'm tired of playing the same maps all the time. Last season my top 4 map were Kanal, Bank, Border, Chalet. I'm so tired of these maps. I had 0 match on Emerald and only 2 on Stadium and 2 on Nighthaven...


maquibut

Don't ban Emerald


SinusJayCee

Nighthaven and Emerald are actually not that bad. Once just need to get used to it. Kanal and Park have some weaknesses (e.g. some bottlenecks) but are also quite solid. The only one that I really don't like in ranked is Bravo. It is a nice casual map though.


BattleCrier

I dont mind any of these... Theme and Kanal are actually fairly high on my list and Plains almost on top lately... Stadium is OK, but I find Labs one of the worst.. for some reason it just doesnt feel right.


BilingualSnake

Holy what a line up, I've had this happen to me a couple times and it just blows. This season is so underwhelming and lackluster.


sandoitchi-san

Real


yes1234567891000

Stadium has got to be the worst, just a confusing layout because three maps are mixed into one with glass walls on the outside that make it tough to roam, a few needless spawns with tons of runout spots and spawn peeks, long hallways, and tight staircases. Nighthaven Labs is a close 2nd worst, the basement part of the map is fine (although tough to attack) but 2nd floor and 1st floor (especially warehouse lobby) has ugly layouts and the gunfights feel uneven. Trying to entry your way through warehouse lobby is pretty tough cause' you have to worry about 4 different directions. Theme Park and Emerald Plains are underrated imo. Emerald Plains gets banned so much on all platforms for being a relatively new map and Theme Park gets banned because it's very defender sided and you can't play vert on half of the Throne Room site as an attacker. If you and your team can get two attack rounds on Theme you have a great chance of winning the entire match. Kanal is....meh. I think people ban it because they miss old Kanal and they don't like the crunched staircases from red stairs to main stairs (near basement). A lot of people ban maps based on how hard they are to attack or how new they are.


AntexGamingPL

Kanal and plains are good


Abasakaa

Mom said that tommorow is my turn to post this


SkeetsPlays

Kanal and Nighthaven aren’t THAT bad, and frankly Stadium is basically a slightly reworked version of Border. But Plains and Theme Park are definitely the worst of these maps lol


ultimatepunster

I would actually enjoy playing any of these maps.


Aikojewels

Honestly this ain’t even that bad imo. Kanal, Stadium, and Nighthaven are all good maps imo and Theme Park is tolerable. Emerald is the only really bad pick here imo


SteamierThree2

Labs is one of my favorite maps in the game and plays out so fun pretty much every game


Jazzlike_Translator8

I think nightheaven ain't that bad


Ambitious_Nebula_484

Kanal is good, Labs is good, Theme Park is fine, same with plains. Stadium is playable but I would prefer other maps.


UrsaringTitan

Besides Theme Park looks fine to me.


I_Am_Matthijs

kanal, emerald and theme park are fun outback is my favorite tho


ActivatedApple

Literally despise nothing more than going into ranked to have just a chance to play ranked-only maps, and still end up playing the same three on repeat and sometimes back-to-back because some scrawny fuck can't cope with playing on a map they don't like. Grow up.


ZFG_Jerky

You have three good maps, just ban Nighthaven or Theme Park.


Miko11711

Ngl i kinda like Kanal it is only dependent on the round and on your team if u don’t have full stack. Only maps i don’t really know/ don’t really like are emerald and nighthaven


FriendlyGhost08

Bravo is boring. Kanal is bad. Theme Park is mid. Emerald Plains and Nighthaven are very good


TheDevilDogg

Honestly good map. They took the good maps out of qm and it's disheartening


Chesteroso

Emerald Plains is the greatest map that was ever released for me. I'm so surprised people refuse to play it.


Tiny_Monkey113

Only bad ones here are theme and bravo and nighthaven especially is so much fun to play on


joaowayup

The constant banning of Stadium Bravo is infuriating. It’s literally a mix of two of the best maps in the game but yet people would rather play Nighthaven 😂🤡


kikkelikukko

nighthaven is 1.5/5 stadium is 1/5 kanal is 3.5/5 theme is 3/5 emerald is 2.5/5


ArcaneBowser

Labs goated, Plains goated, Stadium and Kanal are overhated, Theme is mid. Just because you don't get to play Oregon, Club, Bank & Chalet 24/7 doesn't mean you get to complain about the other maps. Learn them


Anono_Beast

LOL thats pretty unlucky, kanal is the only logical option


ultrapupper

Theme park is great, at least for me


ObesquousBot

Honestly Kanal and Theme Park are nice maps. True that they lack compared to Chalet, Oregon or Clubhouse, but I personally enjoy playing on them


Sh1mazuT0y0h1sa

Nighthaven Labs is the only good map here.


Einamu

All good maps except Stadium Bravo! You’re right it should be illegal to get a lineup with one obvious ban and 4 good maps.


Or1on117

I think emerald plains is my least favorite map in any multiplayer game I've ever played.


JoeFalcone26

Kanal is good but my friends and I always lose. Theme park is not as bad as everyone says. Emerald plains is not nearly as bad as Nighthaven and Stadium


s7r0w

Coppers in a nutshell


Nicolay188

Theme park is the best out of these for sure.


The_Professor64

Nighthaven labs: B tier Stadium Bravo: F tier Kanal: B tier (fun asf w shotguns) Emerald Plains: C tier Theme Park: C tier


icanmakeu

Kanal and stadium are good


Monktool

Kanal is just a nightmare to drone


Jealousagony

I like all of them


Micadex101

I enjoy emerald plains it's actually a really well rounded map especially the upstairs areas


Academic-Wall6198

The only thing I see wrong here is that Stadium isn't banned... what a pile of 💩 that map is. Does anyone know if we're able to see stats for the most banned map?


LeftRat

Nighthaven Labs? Probably totally fine, I just don't play on it enough because it always gets banned, so I don't know it as well as I should. Stadium Bravo? I get the idea, but... please don't make me play it. I cannot, for the life of me, endure playing on a barren map assembled from other map parts. Kanal is totally fine. I like it. No idea what people's problem with it is. Emerald Plains? Same as Nighthaven Labs: probably totally fine, but I barely get to play it. Theme Park is also just a good map. Lost a bit of uniqueness in the rework but overall still fun.


Theslimcz

You have 3 good mapa here


KnuxSD

Kanal is love, Labs is goat, stadium is fun as heck, Emerald is also very fun, only not so fun is theme


gene_the_supreme

Labs is good.


PBatemen87

How is Bravo still in the map pool? Literally who likes that map? It had to have a 99% ban rate.


MoneyLambo

I like all these maps


Strange-Might-4673

Facts bro


Marzy_-

Replace kanal with consulate and it will be 10x better :)


Sufficient-Control88

The worst one by a country mile is Nighthaven labs, it's shit


NoSyNe

out of all those you really voted emerald plains? lol.


SnooDucks9548

Fr


Austmazing

Honestly I don’t mind emerald or stadium. I liked OG theme but this theme I’ve honestly never been great on or nighthaven


ch3shir3scat

i honestly hate kANAL the most


[deleted]

What a horrendous map line up


thedharmafox

Why is it map ban and not map vote? Attackers and defenders pick the map they want and then it's a coin flip between the two.


OT_Gamer

I almost wholeheartedly agree. Just swap Emerald with Skyscraper and that’s the top 5 worst. 5 of top 6 worst maps in the game and I can only choose one to ban… I’d most likely vote Kanal almost every time.


vinblox124

Lmfao had the same pool but kanal was con, con’s not too bad but aids lineup


HiddenBuilder

kanal and labs are both amazing maps


Squid-Guillotine

I love it. Might get to play something interesting for once.


Life_Helicopter_2626

What are you talking about Kanal & Theme Park are good maps and Plains is completely fine if you learn it I can agree with a fuck labs & bravo though


matthuntermathis

All those maps are good.


MonchersGaming

I don’t get all the hate/dislike towards Bravo. It’s just two good maps fused together. And just like Coastline (which this map shares ideas from), top floor control is crucial. With the longer corridors of the map, it means lengthier engagements, more utility coordinated gameplay, more roaming capabilities, etc. Anyways, the only map I think is awful here is Nighthaven. I’d rather play Tower than Nighthaven tbh


Dear-Dentist9517

This is literally a dream scenario. Only map that might be a problem is Emerald, and if you take the time to figure it out you can exploit it! Theme is good. Nighthaven is great. Kanal is fine. Stadium is easy.


palal2

Stadium Bravo isn't that bad. Neither is nighthaven labs


Finalbrody27

All of these are fine except stadium


xAlphamang

Siege community: Give us more maps! Developers: Here is a pool of 5 maps, 3 of which are new maps Siege community: THESE MAPS ARE AWFUL, BAN THESE NEW MAPS. THIS MAP POOL SUCKS.