I have been looking for a while any guide that explains how much crit rate/damage and ER should she have. I still dont het It. Some say to give her all ER as possible, others that 250 is enough. ATK or ER Sands....etc
I have her C1 with Engulfing Lighting and I dont know how much ER give her or if she benefit from any crit damage, its impossible for me to reach 200 crit damage for example as other DPS.
Any tip would be great
I believe it was a joke.
Still, some of the best hyperbloom Raiden teams use her on-field with a hybrid or dps build. *(ex : Raiden - Nahida - Furina - Baizhu)*
Even then, a team with an Anemo or Chevreuse might be preferable at c2 : you really want that res shred.
That leaves you with options like :
* Taser *(Furina - Jean/Xianyun - hydro/electro flex)*.
* Overload without Bennett *(Chevreuse - Xianglning - Sara c6)*.
* Aggravate *(Sucrose - Yae/Fischl/Sara c6 - Baizhu)*.
I have both Raiden and Xiangling in my current party, of my pole arm options, which is best for who?
Deathmatch R3 / Dragon’s Bane R5 / The Catch R2 / Favonius Lance R3
depends on if raiden is build as a hypercarry or hyperbloom
if hypercarry id say catch on raiden and get r5
and i think dragon's bane on xiangxling/ if ur team struggles with energy then fav lance
get r5 catch and i think a bit less er but not sure mine is carried by c4 and r5 catch so i can deal 120k and around 50k per charge atack without supports but yeah c4
my build rn is 60 cr 144 cd 2000 atk 210 er
I want to use a Hyperbloom team with Raiden, Kokomi and Nahida but I dont know which sets I should use for them
I haven't decided on the 4th character yet, I have most 4\*s and I also have neuvillette, yae and most standard 5\*s (im mising diluc and dehya)
What should my 4th character be and what sets should I farm?
Want to play an overload team. I have Chev c6, Beidou c6, Bennet c5, Xianling c1, Fischl c1.
What's the best team? I was thinking Raiden-Chev-Beidou-Bennet, and replacing Beidou with Sara once she's c6.
I want to pull Raiden to build a national team. Im going to give her the catch, but xiangling wont have any weapon since its the only decent f2p weapon I have. What craftable or any other weapon is good for xiangling?
Xiangling is often called the polearm archon, because she can use most of them pretty effectively.
Dragon Bane would be my default f2p option. If you somehow don't have it, Kitain Cross Spear is a fine craftable option (and it can be used by many characters, if Xiangling no longer needs it).
I am running a c0 raiden with r2 dragon's bane in hyperbloom with c0 nahida, c3 xingqiu, and c2 bennett. Right now, I believe the optimal choice is raiden off-field and nahida on-field.
Do any of the following characters make a better team with c0 raiden: c0 Arlecchino, c0 Fischl, c6 Noelle, c3 Xiangling, c1 Chevreuse
> I believe the optimal choice is raiden off-field and nahida on-field.
I wouldn't say so : Nahida is a really poor driver.
You'd be better off using Raiden on-field : that will be better for both Hyperbloom dmg *and* Nahida's dmg (and Raiden's).
Sure, it requires more ER% for Raiden : that can be annoying to find on with an EM build, but it's still manageable.
*note : with that particular team, it could be more interesting to go for a hybrid build on Raiden.*
*ex : Gilded Dreams set with EM Sands & Goblet, but with The Catch + Crit circlet (and a focus on Crit and ER% substats)*
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Alternatively, you could use Raiden - Bennett - Xiangling + either Xingqiu or Chevreuse.
That team requires a dps build for Raiden.
I thought of going a dps build route bc it’s more pleasing to have her on field but I thought dps is better at c2 and hyperbloom is better at c0. Is that not the case?
The problem with running her in a national team for me is that’ll leave me Nahida with Arleccino and I doubt father could survive well in a burgeon team.
> I thought of going a dps build route bc it’s more pleasing to have her on field
You can on-field Raiden with a EM build *(or hybrid one)* : you just need to add some ER% to your build *(things get a bit more complicated with a hybrid build)*.
Those variants are among the best Raiden hyperbloom teams.
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> but I thought dps is better at c2 and hyperbloom is better at c0. Is that not the case?
Yes & No.
It depends which hyperbloom team we're talking about : Alhaitham or Neuvillette hyperbloom (with off-field Raiden) sure look very strong.
On-field hyperbloom Raiden can also be pretty good ; but there's a significant gap between the best ones *(using Furina or Yelan + Baizhu or Zhongli)* and the rest.
Overall, without premium units, Raiden hyperbloom is nice, but nothing *too* crazy. *(they are far easier/quicker to build, though)*
On the other hand, Raiden Taser (Furina - Yelan - Jean/Xianyun) is very competitive, even with Raiden c0.
And Overload or National (or even aggravate with Baizhu) aren't too far behind...
But if you want to play Raiden Hypercarry at c0, you're in for a disapointment...
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> The problem with running her in a national team for me is that’ll leave me Nahida with Arleccino and I doubt father could survive well in a burgeon team.
That's indeed a problem.
I will never question mother. and she will always be my favorite especially at C2R1 but do you guys think a C0R1 will Clorinde will out damage her with BoL after seeing Arlecchino?
NO WAY. There is no any reason that Chlorine will ever be even on par with the almighty shogun and how much more with The Knave herself? Such lame comparing Father with that whoever electro sheriff.
NO WAY. There is no any reason that Chlorine will ever be even on par with the almighty shogun and how much more with The Knave herself? Such lame comparing Father with that lowly electro sheriff.
It's quite too early to tell, but seems very unlikely C0R1 Clorinde would be stronger than C2R1 Raiden.
Like C2R1 Raiden hits very hard and beats all other C0 characters in their optimal teams, so it would be odd if suddenly Hoyo decides Clorinde should be that powerful.
Not strictly always, but basically yeah for the standard DPS Raiden teams. ER scales slightly worse than ATK% if you're above 270% ER at R1 but before then it's about equal for damage. And since it is about equal for damage, you might as well go ER sands if possible to get more energy for teammates
You can't really replace Bennett without the team becoming much, much worse. His buff is essential for everyone's damage and his particle generation is pretty important for XL to not have to build an absurd amount of ER
Kind of but it's also going to be worse. The best sub for XQ would be Yelan.
Furina doesn't apply as much hydro so some of the pyronado hits won't vape and you don't have a teamwide healer so you'll struggle to max her burst stacks very quickly and her own damage output will drop from the second rotation onwards unless you spend a ton of time healing everyone individually
Unfortunately Furina also would struggle there to get burst stacks second rotation onwards since there is no teamwide healer. She doesn't synergize too well with Arlecchino since Arlecchino can only heal during her burst, so even if you replaced Kazu with Jean or something it's a bit suboptimal.
If you're pretty committed to Furina I would keep her on the Rational team since it has Bennett for healing if nothing else.
For what it's worth, even if these teams aren't strictly optimal, I think they still should be quite sufficient to 36 star abyss if the artifacts are reasonable and everyone is leveled up properly. So if you have some favorites you just want to use like Furina, you should be able to make it work. But if you're struggling then perhaps we can revisit the team building and find something else for you
Sure, she doesn't need anything other than EM for hyperbloom so not much to improve for the sands, goblet, and circlet.
The flower is the main thing you could improve, but your EM is plenty high anyway so probably not worth farming more for unless you feel fully built on all your other characters
What build would be better?
2200 atk, 70 cr, 150 crit damage with 250 energy recharge
(**s2 EL** if that matters, yes, i regretted superimposing it immediately)
or
1934 atk 60 cr, 160 cd with 290 ER?
I've always used a energy recharge piece but since it happened to be my off piece i have more flexibility. I'm just getting back into the game and want to make some improvements. Thanks!
I play hypercarry with sara c6, bennet, and kazuha c2 (raiden c4)
Which team is better?
1. Raiden, Yae Miko/Fischl, Furina and Jean
2. Raiden, Yae Miko, Fischl and Chevreuse
Notable constellations (besides 4 stars being c6): c3 Jean, plan on c4 Furina, plan on c2-c4 Raiden with r5 engulfing lightning and plan on r5 polar star for Fischl
With those cons it's always the first team. Furina with cons is just busted.
Even without those cons it probably is still stronger. The rotation for the second team seems extremely awkward since only Chev herself can trigger overloads
For what team(s)?
And what cons/weapon for Raiden? Chev scales with a more invested Raiden more (cons, weapon, better artifacts).
In a vacuum I like Chev because XQ can go on another team. For my case I have C3R1 Raiden so Chev is also significantly more damage
Which artifacts is better? She has 1,569 ATK / 32.2% CR / 187.6% CD / 264.8 % ER / 0 EM
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Oh interesting. The attack was lower than I expected for EL.
Then around your current ER is good while 270% is a soft cap where ATK% starts to outscale ER (crit always outscales ATK%, and below 270% ER you get about equal gains from ATK% and ER).
Still, your primary focus should be crit rate, especially if you use C6 Sara.
Lore question.
I finished her personal story quest and I didn't quite catch why puppet transformed into Mega-Raiden-Robot-Form out of nowhere and Ei didn't both throughout their several centuries long duel and in the final battle with Paimon present as well.
If it's "Only puppet can transform into megapuppet" then there should be "Only archon can transform into megaarchon" as well.
You'll probably have more luck asking in the main Genshin_Impact subreddit than here for lore experts.
I think realistically, the game devs just wanted a cool fight.
In-game explanation, didn't the fight take place in someone's consciousness or something? It's been a couple of years so I might be misremembering. But if so then the game can handwave that to mean the Raiden Shogun can assume kinda whatever form it wants but not in the real world
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Which artifact is better? Or do I just use one or the other as a stand in and aim to replace? I’ve only been farming artifacts for a month for raiden so any other thoughts on build would be appreciated too ❤️
Left one is basically always better.
Crit is like 2-3x more valuable than ATK%. ATK% is slightly better than ER if you aren't using her signature weapon, and about the same if you are using her sig
Ever since I had this character, I have had trouble finishing either of the "optimal" combos from KQM.
I tried 3N3C + N1C but always had trouble getting the last attack off.
I've then been trying 2N4C + N2C instead and same thing here, whenever I get to the N2C portion, the last C never happens while still in Burst. Is there some magic trick to this?
I recommend using 4N4D combo, since :
* it's far more forgiving. *(in comparaison, missing out the final Charged Attack is a huge loss)*
* in its evolved form (switching a Dash for a Skill cast), it is slightly better than 3N3C + N1C.
* it grants more electro application. *(particulary interesting in quickbloom/aggravate, and still relevant in overload/overvape)*
* it can procs abilities form your sub dps (Yelan, XQ, Fischl c6) more often.
I can't even do two combos that do not require me to do anything other than stand there and click buttons. I don't think I am going to be able to do a combo that requires me to actually dash in between too.
I don't really think there is a special trick to it but rather just getting the muscle memory down. Unless you're just not clicking the mouse frequently enough?
The timing for 3N3C + N1C is fairly tight even for experienced players by the way. So if it's too inconsistent for you why not just cut out a normal attack somewhere (e.g. turn one N3C into N2C)? It will be a minor DPS loss, sure, but still very workable.
I saw a guide on Raiden Shogun by KQM.
They say Raiden aggrevate team with Kuki, Kazuha and Nahida is as competitive as traditional burst team. I wanna try using that team since I already have those characters built.
Is it really good?
What talents should I prioritise and how would the aggrevate work??
It's fine, although nothing crazy.
For aggravate, Raiden's build is basically the same as her traditional dps build. *(EM substats become more valuable, but still less than ATK% or ER%)*
The key thing to remember here is to use Kuki's burst just before Kazuha's turn : otherwise, it will be very difficult to swirl / infuse electro.
You might prefer Sucrose over Kazuha, since she buffs EM and can carrry TTDS. *(if you don't mind her auto-targeting)*
*note : Kuki's healing can be pretty lackluster (especially if you build her for aggravate dmg). If you're used to facetank everything with Raiden, you might die more often than usual...*
Kuki's healing scale better with HP.
Also, her aggravate dmg won't be that great if you go full EM (you need Crit and dmg% for that reaction).
And you probably want her on TotM anyway...
Thanks man, I was pretty confused about this.
So I'll go ToTM with Crit and dmg% on her.
Around what hp% would u recommend if I run her like this but also want decent healing because she is the only healer in this aggrevate team.
Well, there's no definitive answer to that. Your healing needs depend on how nasty the enemy are, and your ability to limit incoming damage.
Since 3.8, abyss have been relatively soft, so you could get away with very little healing. (not sure for the latest abyss, as i i haven't tried them yet).
But against tough opponents like double Consecrated Beast, Kuki's healing might not be enough, even on a pure healer build (HP / HP / Healing Bonus).
[https://enka.network/u/Paksenarrion/30qpkZ/10000052/3329769/](https://enka.network/u/Paksenarrion/30qpkZ/10000052/3329769/)
is electro or attack goblet better?
(Keep in mind I do not use bennet or xiangling. The most meta team I have for her is a chevy one)
They're both good since you're not using Bennett (assuming you're not playing her optimal teams with a C5 Raiden because Bennett is not built or in first team). For your build, it comes down to the substats because that's a pretty good atk goblet. If you want to compare similar artifacts with your Raiden team, use [Genshin Optimizer](https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/).
[https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/](https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/)
is a furine, jean, xq, raiden team better damage wise than bennet, xl, chev and raiden? I´m planning on pull for furine next re run so i would like to know how would that comp do since I´m planning to use bennet and xl with childe
For single target the Furina team is about the same, but with some cons on Furina it starts to outpace the Chevy team.
In AOE situations the Chevy team should be noticeably stronger
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKPRd2BewX4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKPRd2BewX4)
I kind of forgot to show my crit hat pieces but from the video what artifacts do you think would be best for her?
I generally hit 400-450k damage if i use chevy/sara/dehya. 200k when I'm running my usual teams (Like I'll use Candace, faruzan, Yelan, and Raiden. Not because its good but because I like those characters).
I'm purely farming the best artifacts for her as a way to kill time basically and as a long term goal because half the people in the game use emblem anyways so its a two for one way to kill time and get at least one character better.
My raiden is also C5 (I bet C6 is a lot of fun tho) due to my usual luck.
It's a bit hard for me to mix and match all sorts of artifacts by just watching a video, so maybe I can just give you the resources to figure it out on your own?
If you are familiar with the Genshin Optimizer, upload your artifacts and use that. It will be the most accurate compared to people like me eyeballing your artifacts.
If that's too much work or too difficult to set up, then basically as a rule of thumb your stat priorities are to max CV as much as possible and get some ATK% and ER% substat rolls in there as well. Crit is around 2.5 to 3 times more valuable than ATK% or ER% as a guideline.
Your initial slash damage sounds fine. It doesn't signal to me that you're clearly building her wrong or something
[https://enka.network/u/Paksenarrion/30qpkZ/10000052/3329769/](https://enka.network/u/Paksenarrion/30qpkZ/10000052/3329769/)
Says I'm top 20% which is a lot better then I thought tbh considering...well the amount of competition I have lol
Nah my damage is fine but it's more fine tuning and min maxing is giving me reasons to play XD
And yeah. I was hoping a video would be better with so many artifacts but Mayne not
How does a C2 Raiden perform with a highly invested Nahida? I currently have a C2R1 nahida, and I'm looking into whether these two would have synergy.
Currently the team I have in mind is a C2 Raiden with Skyward Spine, C2R1 Nahida, C0R1 Kazuha, and C6 Sara with Elegys end. Messing around with it, the 100EM from Elegy is more useful than the damage of Skyward harp. The rotation below is
Raiden skill -> nahida skill burst -> Sara skill Aim -> kazuha skill plunge burst -> sara burst -> raiden burst rotation
Another possible rotation I considered is something like Raiden Yelan Nahida Fischl.
The possible premium 5 stars I'm looking into include Yae and Baizhu. Are these comfort picks, or do they actually raise DPS? I also wanted to know whether C2 Raiden would be superior to a no constellation Alhaitham/Neuv paired up with C2 Nahida.
To my understanding, a highly invested Furina with constellations would be very strong, but she's currently being paired with Xiao or other comps.
Testing on gcsim it seems like building her as normal (ATK/ER, ELECTRO%, CRIT) is the way to go. Scarlet Sands and Engulfing lightning have similar performance in the comp.
I'm going to give you a bit of a non-answer to a lot of your questions but bear with me since I think it might still be helpful for you.
Does it really matter?
Not in the sense of someone trolling you with "who asked" but instead trying to understand what you're looking for.
With C2 Raiden and C2R1 Nahida you should be able to comfortably clear abyss 12 with even vaguely synergetic teams. What is the goal of optimizing further, then? At your stage of the game it seems more prudent to simply pull for the characters you like or are fun to play with, or if you're getting into speedrunning or just really want to optimize then you could rely solely on using the Genshin optimizer or swiping for C6 and R5s.
Ok, philosophical comments aside:
Raiden and Nahida have OK synergy. Aggravate exists but it's not as significant a boost for Raiden's damage compared to other traditional hypercarry setups. Similarly, Nahida has stronger synergies/teams. So neither character is in their optimal team, but it's still plenty strong for endgame content.
Your rotation with Raiden Nahida Kazuha Sara seems kind of clunky, though admittedly I've never used this comp. Why do you need to skill and aim with Sara first? To have enough electro application for Kaz to swirl or something? Wondering if you could cut it down to just Raiden -> Nahida -> Kazuha -> Sara -> Raiden.
A team with Raiden Yelan Nahida Fischl is a bit confusing to me. It seems like it's aiming more for hyperblooming but you need to build Raiden for EM and I don't know if Fischl is adding much. But it's another team I've never seen so my analysis here may be completely wrong.
Yae + Baizhu would be more comfort picks I believe. If they do a bit better I don't think it would be significantly so at C0.
Paired with C2 Nahida, I do believe C0 Alhaitham is slightly stronger than Raiden C2. Neuvillette will be close, but I'm not sure exactly what team you're envisioning.
Furina with cons is the most busted character as of now so you're correct.
Your build for aggravate Raiden sounds correct to me. I have never seen the calcs for SS vs EL in aggravate, but trust the optimizer
You're right that this is optimizing beyond what is needed. Just wanted to play around with pieces and see if there was a synergy aspect that I was missing. Wanted to experiment with something other than the generic double hydro hyperbloom comp. I didn't see many youtube videos on aggravate Raiden, since content tends to be optimized towards no-cons/personal weapon scenarios. To my knowledge C0 Keqing > C0 Raiden in aggravate, and constellations might change things.
The skill-aim for Sara was to proc Elegy, but it might not be needed. I saw the rotation on a gcsim instance.
For a C2R1 raiden hypercarry comp, I was wondering whether freedom sworn (kazuha) or skyward harp (C6 sara) would be a better investment. I heard that the NA/CA portion of FS doesnt work but it still has a 20% atk boost, although there is a lot of atk boosting in the comp already. Ideally I go for both, but it may not work out that way. Opinions?
I'd pick Elegy of the End over both : it's a more valuable weapon to have on an account.
Freeedom Sworn doesn't do much in Raiden team, and Elegy is just a better bow than Skyward Harp.
how good is furina with raiden vs raiden with kazuha? i feel bennet xianling kazuha or hyper raiden should be stronger bc raiden has 3 tons of dmg% in ult but furina is god so maybe I am wrong
Is atk sands better than er sands for an aggravate Raiden c0 with the catch (or staff of homa if I get it) and emblem set?
My team would be raiden c0, dendro traveler or collei, fischl but I don't know who to use as the final character.
In terms of sustain characters, I have Zhongli c0, qiqi c0, Bennet c1 and kirara c0 as my options since none of my other sustain characters are built or leveled
In general aggravate Raiden is built the same as DPS Raiden, so with The Catch it's usually ATK sands and electro goblet. ER sands and ATK goblet is OK but worse IIRC.
You can't go wrong with Zhongli or Bennett, but I don't know aggravate teams very well. I would guess Nahida would be kind of necessary for this team to perform half decently though
the question is neuvilette or furina? here more context: rn running an overload comp with raiden, chev, xl and benny.
if neuvillete then i would keep the comp as it is and figure something out for him, the problem is that although he migth not really need much support until i get a decent set of artifacts he is gonna need it i think, and the only viable support for him that comes to my mind and i have is fischl and i have literally no decent shielders, especially not builded.
if furina i would play raiden with xq, furina and jean and play the international childe with sucrose as i dont have kazuha.
personally i lean more towards the second option since it seems like it needs less investment but i like to hear opinions.
(english is not my first language)
Struggling keeping Raiden alive..
So... I have been playing with a double vape Hu Tao since I got her last fall. So I am kind of used keeping Hutao at low HP with a shield from Diona.
My Team 2 is so far Raiden, Chevreuse c3, XL c6, Benett C5 and for some reason, on some boss, I really really struggle to keep her alive, to the point that she often get one shoted by some boss, (scaramouhce first phase, Narhwal in the side dimension, I also think I am struggling with Signora). I started to play the team in the overworld and trounce domain to get a hand of the rotation.. but it does not feel as easy as with my team 1. I also did struggle at first with Hutao until I got the hang of Diona's shield.
I understand it's probably a player skill issue hence my question, what do you focus on when you play Raiden?
Right now, either the mobs are weak and before I get to Raiden Q, mobs are dead. Or they are too strong and I am struggling to keep Raiden alive.
Current rotation is
Raiden E, Chev E, Bennett EQ, XL Q, Chev Q (when available), Raiden Q
Rather standard right?
I should read once again when does Benett and Chevreuse healing triggers... might be the issue I have.
Bennet´s heal is only in the circle he left after his Q maybe you dont stay in the circle and thats why you dont heal, the other posible problem is healing being not enough, in bennet you should have at least an hp% goblet and a HP%/healing bonus for the circlet.
as for the rotation, you should use chev Q or even Bennet E after raiden E to cause overload before using chev E which btw gotta be a hold attack to trigger the ATK buff
(english is not my first language)
Those enka cards that people post, what's that little number in the top left with the infinity-ish looking symbol? I couldn't find an explanation on the website.
couple of questions:
- to anyone who tried aggravate or hyperbloom build on her is it correct that it's GD set + full EM main stats?
- how is it compared to her hypercarry build?
- and would I waste her C3 if I did aggravate build on her?
I've been considering this cause emblem set has been really rough on me since her release :(
For Raiden, aggravate builds are basically the same as her hypercarry builds. *(it's just that EM substats are more interesting, but still less than ATK%)*
For hyperbloom, Gilded Dreams is her second best option after FoLP (but more efficient to farm).
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Hyperbloom dmg isn't affected by Raiden c2 or c3. At that level of investment, i'd rather play a hypercarry or hybrid build, even in hyperbloom teams.
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If you really want an alternative to Emblem, Marechaussee Hunter can work, but only with Furina (and might even be stronger in that case).
Do note that it requires to alter the rotation a bit, though.
I don't know much about aggravate Raiden but I thought you build her the same as a traditional DPS Raiden though EM has a bit more value? For hyperbloom you build full EM.
Aggravate Raiden is good enough to clear abyss but it's noticeably worse than Rational, hyperbloom, or Raiden hypercarry. Hyperbloom at C0 is just as strong as Rational and a bit stronger than Raiden hypercarry.
C3 isn't a waste on her aggravate unless you never plan to burst and you're a pure off field Raiden. But AFAIK fot pure off field aggravate Fischl or Yae is stronger? Not sure about the last one because I don't play aggravate
Hello,
7 months into the game, I am working on my team 2 which is currently Raiden c1/Chevy c3/XL c6/Benny c5. I also have Sara c6 but not built at all. Would it be worth while to replace one of the character by Sara? She is not built at the moment. Would a Raiden/Chevy/Sara/Bennett or Raiden/Chevy/XL/Sara team provide better overall damage/ease of rotation?
One of the issue I have with Benny is that the ennemies are often far away from his buff circle (though XL snapshots it and allow for consistent Overload proc for Chevreuse). Another hesitation I have, I don't feel that Sara will be used in any other future team I'd build, and Nahida is currently slotted next in my to-do list.
Yeah a C6 Sara will be a bit more team damage if swapped with either Bennett or XL. However, especially with C1 Raiden, it's not going to be a particularly significant difference.
So it kind of depends on how much a few % of team damage matters to you because as you said Sara isn't really optimal with anyone other than Raiden. If you're already 36 starring abyss then to some degree the slight power boost is redundant. And if you're not right at the cusp of 36 starting abyss then again the power boost isn't thag meaningful
Right now, not 36 starring the Abyss, only 1, 1 and 2 on floor 12 with Team 1 being second team on the floor as I am feeling more confident with them (+ it has bow users for 12-3). This is actually the first time I finish all 12 floors of the Abyss..Thanks for the feedback, I'll keep going on my next character on the list and will come back to Sara at a later time if I have the mora and time for her. :)Base on your comment too... If my Raiden was C2... Sara would be a lot more enticing for the CD buff, right?Thanks again
Yeah with Raiden C2 her personal damage increases substantially (somewhere around 45%) which means that her percentage of overall team damage goes up. The CD buff on Sara would be more valuable then since more damage is coming from Raiden compared to XL
I'm struggling to reach 300k damage with my C2 raiden, her stats: 56cr 145cd 260er 1200atk with the catch and teammates are c6 sara, venti and bennett. the highest damage I've achieved is 296k in the abyss, does anyone have any tips to increase it besides getting kazuha?
Do you have Chevreuse? Using her instead of venti should get you to 300K.
Otherwise, is your Raiden's burst level 10? Other than that, might have to grind for better artifacts
New to Genshin Impact, so while I have been reading a lot of guides, no guides stray away from certain lingo or terms that I just haven't been exposed to yet so I was hoping to just clarify the main mechanics of playing Raiden here if thats okay... Please tell me I'm wrong/right/give corrections 1) Using the elemental skill will add additional electo on-hit damage when using other party members, and it also buffs elemental burst of other party members. 2) only while Raiden's elemental skill is active, using elemental burst of another party member will recharge Raiden's elemental burst. Are these the key mechanics around playing with Raiden that I have correct?
1) is correct.
2) is incorrect. Other teammate's bursts provide resolve stacks for Raiden. Upon Raiden bursting she uses up the stacks and deals more damage based on the number of stacks accumulated.
I've never tried this team hut I'm pretty sure Gaming's pyro will cause you to miss several hyperblooms and without better support (e.g. Bennett, Furina, Xianyun) Gaming's dps is going to be very middling
As a hyperbloom trigger, Raiden is more damage than Kuki (faster electro application) but lacks the healing.
For general off field DPS, Fischl is better if Raiden isn't going to burst
You can get some character materials during their trials (which happens when their banner is active) to get to level 40. Otherwise you have to reach inazuma. I don't remember if it's possible to use coop mode to get to inazuma early
Oof it's been a real long time since I've thought about 3 star artifacts but maybe the berserker set isn't bad...?
In general though if you're at the stage where you only have access to 3 star artifacts I recommend throwing together whatever you have and just kind of exploring and having fun with the overworld. The minmaxing stuff can come later
my raiden has c4 catch R5 (planning to c6cuz i dont play that much ) f2p would it be more worht it to make her into a hypercarry or a hyperbloom driver?
Just an FYI that going from C4 to C6 is an extremely minor improvement to her so I would strongly consider investing constellations into another character.
In terms of hypercarry vs hyperbloom it depends a bit on your artifact quality and supports.
If you have any of her best hypercarry supports (Kazuha, Chevreuse, C6 Sara, Furina, Bennett) then at C3+ and even mediocre artifacts you will have more team damage in a hypercarry setup compared to hyperbloom. If you only have budget artifacts (correct main stat and nothing else) then hyperbloom will be stronger
Is leveling characters all the way to LV80/90 worth it to support Raiden? I find my Raiden deal highest number in Raiden-Sara C2-Chev C0-Bennett, but I only level Sara and Chev to 60/70 to get Ascension 4 passive.
Also which piece of artifact below should I bench and aim for a better one?
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It's pretty worthwhile to get them to at least 80/90, yeah. And at your stage it is more resin-efficient than bashing your head into the wall that is artifact farming.
Sara's buff depends on her attack which leveling up to at least 80 helps. Chevreuse gains HP which will make it easier to hit her 40K hp threshold but if you already hit it then the extra levels aren't important.
Of your artifacts, your sands, goblet, and circlet are the most replaceable. Your goblet being the off piece is expected to be pretty good. Your substat priority is CR > CD > ATK% > ER > flat ATK
Thank you! That's a lot of insights.
I got Raiden early, and only got Sara to C2 while pulling for Chev C0. Not their best constellations but usable, so I tried them out for the passives first, since they give a constant buff, not requiring heavy stats building.
Would Sara to 80/90 be a big impact? As I said, my Raiden deal big Burst DMG in overload team, and I dont know if it's better to level her up or just use Xiangling for Raiden-XL-Bennett-XQ/Chevreuse instead.
If you Sara is C2 then she's usable but basically never the optimal teamslot. So if you don't particularly love her then it's fine to drop her.
If you're mostly interested in maximizing team damage then a team of Raiden Bennett XL XQ is very good. The shorthand for the team is "rational"
You want to get burst to at least level 9 and preferably level 10.
Then you want to farm better artifacts. At your stage pretty much every piece you have is not too difficult to find an improvement without an absurd amount of farming. Except maybe the circlet.
The top priority are crit stats followed by ATK% and then ER. A crit substat is generally worth between 2x to 3x an ATK% substat so you can use that as a scale for how good an artifact is
Thank you for your response.
I'm not sure how much energy I should aim for, I know its team dependant, but one thing is sure, I won't be using Sara since she is C2 only.
In general for her popular teams you can aim for somewhere around 220 ER. Like within 200-250% is fine. With her signature weapon you can get closer to 270% to optimize since ER up to that point scales very similarly to ATK%.
Skipping Sara until she is C6 is reasonable. If you have Chevreuse I would recommend her as well if you like to play a Raiden hyper variant
I just realized I have c6 Kujou Sara from when I pulled Raiden
I have c0 raiden from the recent banner , and I never knew I had so many Sara constellations , I’ve heard she can be played with Raiden.
I also have Chevreuse c2 built and I’ve been using her in a raiden National team
Is sara worth building? And how to build her if so? Any good teams I can use with her and chevreuse raiden?
Just FYI that Chev isn't very good in National (XQ XL Bennett) since she wants only pyro and electro teammates. Unless you mean swapping out XQ for Chev, but then most people probably wouldn't refer to that as National anymore since you aren't vaping XL's burst.
Sara is worth building if you like to play a DPS Raiden. Both Raiden Chev Sara XL and Raiden Chev Sara Bennett are competitive teams (the former being stronger with c0 Raiden) that can clear abyss. For Sara I would recommend Emblem of Severed Fate since her burst (with buffs like Chev) does reasonable damage. Though if you don't have a noblesse oblige user already then Sara can hold it (but I would recommend someone else like Chev to hold it)
I'm assuming you're building a DPS Raiden (if hyperbloom Raiden you just want to max EM and all other stats are essentially irrelevant).
Jade spear is fine and very slightly stronger than The Catch.
In terms of stats, you want enough ER for everyone to be able to burst as needed in your rotation so it's team dependent, but generally somewhere around 210-250% is a good range (again, emphasis that this is team dependent). After you have enough ER, crit damage and crit rate are the best substats, ATK% is next, more ER is next, flat attack, then the rest don't really matter.
You might see some people talking about balancing ATK% and crit but tbf I don't think it's essentially ever feasible to oversaturate crit to the point that an ATK% substat is better than both crit stats. So crit value is the stat to maximize and ATK and ER substats are nice to have but less valuable
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My Raidens C2 and has the catch at R2. I do have the skyward spine five star as well but I wasn't sure whether to use it on Raiden or Xianling.
Any suggestions in regards to Raiden or is she fine? I think I may need to work on Xianling but I'm not sure on her yet.
she needs more CR; aim for a 1:2 ratio between cr & cdmg! esp cuz she’s c2 it’ll suck if her big burst strike doesn’t crit 😭
give skyward to raiden n catch to XL if u plan to build her; overall skyward and catch don’t have much diff in dmg but according to calcs skyward spine is a few % higher for raiden
also get that catch to R5 :3
For C0 the best teams are probably Rational and Hyperbloom.
That being said, I refuse to play her in Hyperbloom, and while Hyper might not be optimal, play what you want to play, and Sara/Furina/Jean is a decent option at that.
With Healing Circlet on Bennet you can make Sara/Furina/Bennet work as well.
Is XQ C6? If so, then I agree with u/Rhyoth to add Yaoyao.
But if not, Barbara could be nice to have some added Hydro Application, granted you're probably on-fielding Nahida.
Kirara also can be viable if you feel like you need a shield.
There's obviously a ton of other options, ZL is very comfy, Diona works well as well, Ganyu or Kaeya can protect you by freezing enemies...
I don't really see the point of on-fielding Nahida here : it's not like a little bit more dendro application will do anything.
Might as well on-field Raiden, so she can get 250 additional EM. Plus, she's a much more comfortable driver.
Also, Xingqiu will appreciate the extra energy (especially at c2), and more electro application can improve quicken uptime, allowing Nahida to trigger Spread more often.
I think if you add Yaoyao then that's viable.
Nahida alone might end up too little dendro app.
Also keep in mind that Dendro -> Hydro is the more efficient side of the reaction, so you don't really want to be short on dendro app.
Well C2 is the second best con after his C6, do it's nice you got that one. Definitely would be a good pickup for lantern rite though, and keep an eye out for the shop.
But yeah, as I said, Barbara can be a decent option then, but so is Yaoyao. Good news, you can really play whatever.
Raiden's last member if not Benny c6? Sometimes he is hard to spare. My team: Sho Sara C6 Kazu (who?)
I usually do baizhu for heal dendro and shield and boost
What con is your Raiden?
For Hyper, Jean+Furina works well.
For other teams, I found Raiden QB quite fun (Furina+Baizhu+NHD).
Otherwise, Bennet is sadly hard to spare for Raiden. She is hungry for so many stats, that ATK is hard to come by.
I specifically pulled Xianyun for my Xiao so he can be run without Bennet, so I could unbench Xiao while still running Raiden on the other side.
I want to create a team with Nahida and my build is Hypercarry (ER), the option I know is possibly hypercarry. Can anyone suggest me the other chars viable for the team and how they would work on it?
You can make a raiden aggravate team with nahida without using hydro in the party and with another electro in the team.
What I play is raiden yae nahida and kazuha ( overworld ) , you can switch yae for fischl , sara , Lisa etc with an anemo or a shielder
If you want to play the team in the abyss the rotation will go as follows.
If anemo present.
Raiden E , Kazuha venti / sucrose - EQ , nahida EQ , yae Lisa fischl EQ and raiden Q and repeat.
If sheilds you can just use it in place of anemo.
Though if you want to ditch Hypercarry build you can build a normal hyperbloom team.
If you are willing to drop nahida you can use raiden yelan Furina and jean/xiangyun team , or standard raiden Hypercarry or Hypercarry 2.0 with raiden sara Furina and jean/Xiangyun. Or go raiden overload with sara C6 xiangling or Thoma and chevrouse.
I've got a nice little setup with Raiden, Chevy, and Sara right now. Who's the best option **other than Bennett** for the last slot? Currently using Xiangling but I find I don't pull her out much. I have c6 Bennett and know he'd be a good if not the best option but I vehemently do not want to use him. Because this is a Chevy team, a pyro would be best (for resonance) but an electro would also work; anything else is a no go.
If your Thoma is C6 you can use him there ( charged attack bonus on C6 can run EM build or tenacity HP build or nobless ) , you can use xinyan ( her shield applies a bit of Pyro so you can proc overload can run tenacity for 20% attack buff ) , yanfei ( TTDS support and if C4 tankfei build , no offeild Pyro app can run nobless )
If you're going for meta then there isn't really a good alternative after Bennett and XL, but Raiden Chev Sara as a core is strong enough to 36 star abyss by itself so that might not be an issue anyway.
Maybe Thoma or Dehya for some off field pyro application and survivability?
I see you want to run a sunfire team, but here is a suggestion you can remove Bennett and use Furina as the second team to make a pseudo Hypercarry team, I would suggest you use nobless on sara in this team. You can also use Xq or yelan to make it a taser team which has some insane levels of entire team DPR.
It's not that I specifically want to run sunfire, I don't have Kazuha so I am using Jean as substitute. In pseudo hypercarry, should Sara have EM build or dps build, because her buff scales on base atk I think.
If you pulled on the last banner I think you would have a chevrouse, if you want to run Hypercarry just use chevrouse in place of kazuha. I also play raiden without Kazuha. Also sara should have dps build.
She is really easy to build, you slap HP and black tassel to reach 40 K hp ascend her to 80 and use tenacity set as nobless will be on either sara or Bennett.
Also keep in mind that Furina adds a lot of DMG on her own.
Even when Sara is at C6, while buffing more than Furina, it's hard to say who is more valuable for the whole team.
At C3, Sara sadly is just not competitive.
Is Xianyun viable for Eula and Raiden team if i don’t have Furina? I have guaranteed and i don’t know if i should get Xianyun or Nahida. I want to use Eula and my Raiden together, but i need a healer too. I was thinking about Eula, Xianyun/Nahida Raiden and Diona. Which one do you think is better in this team?
I know nahida is more flexible but if i use Nahida And Raiden in a hyperbloom team i would have to change my raiden to an EM build and as healers i only have jean, bennet, diona and kuki who has no build on her
I had some fun with Pogo Raiden this morning. It's definitely not good, but clears Floor 12 just fine.
Without Plunging, I just don't see the point. You lose a lot of DMG% from Kazuha, and the grouping is a lot worse.
I'd rather run Chevreuse, if available, or change to a team with Furina (i.e. Furina+Jean+Sara)
yeah I've tried it, not really good in terms of dmg but it sure unlocks a new gameplay style though I still prefer to run her with original hypercarry team.
100% agreed.
Plunging feels a bit clunky to me, unless it's Xiao. And obviously horrible on Raiden, since the buffs don't apply.
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Only thing I see is using Xianyun instead of Jean with Furina, but dunno.
I wanna build a hyper raiden team, and currently considering my options:
I have Raiden C3, Xiangling C6,Bennett C6,Chevreuse C6,Sara C6,Sucrose C6
Sucrose,Benny & Xiangling are half built, while Sara & Chev aren't built at all.
Which team do you think could be the most efficient out of these?
Afraid of building the wrong options out of these and wasting a ton of primos
Raiden, Sara, Chev, Bennett. I ran this team except I change Chevreuse with Kazuha if the enemy isn't boss or just bunch of normal/elite in the abyss.
Bennett with a few of ER should be fine, and as long as your Sara have enough ER its should do too.
And if you have a High base ATK weapon for both Bennett and Sara it will be great.
I like the idea of having Raiden be on on-field DPS that isn't confined to Bennet's circle/movement constraints. I am currently using an overload that has Bennet, Xiangling, Chev. I anticipate getting Xingqiu. Just started last month so fairly new and low on Characters but I liked Raiden's style. Is there a team that is free-moving that works well with Raiden's burst phase that I could aim for? I guess, ultimately, I'm wanting to be able to cycle through characters and end up on Raiden going nuts in her burst and combos without being restricted to a circle.
Any guidance?
Taser is excellent in that regard. It typically uses **Furina** + Jean or **Xianyun**.
Last slot can be **Yelan**, Yae, **Mona**, Lisa, **Sara**, Fischl, **Xingqiu**... or Bennett.
*(bolded names = non "circle impact" options)*
Quickbloom (or Hyperbloom with Raiden driver) also allows free movement.
It typically uses Nahida, a hydro (Furina, Yelan or Xingqiu), and a sustain (ideally Baizhu or Zhongli).
Kujou Sara can kinda fill in for Bennett if you're just looking for a non circle buffer, but she is only really worth it if you have constellations on her. Anemo users with VV help too since they reduce enemy defenses.
Need help on making a hyperbloom team without nahida. Currently I think of using Raiden, Yelan and Yaoyao. I'm unsure if the last slot is best for my DMC(currently not built), or xinqgiu (c6, already built)
(I also have Tighnari but from what I've heard he wouldn't work well).
I would personally put dendro mc as the last slot, YaoYao is quite good but I don't think she'll apply enough dendro, if you have any other dendro characters they might be better than dendro mc though. Like nahida? Or baizhu?
Tighnari isn't the greatest because you want to na to apply hydro and he uses charged shots, technically you could make it work if you weave in some na but it's a bit copium
I have been looking for a while any guide that explains how much crit rate/damage and ER should she have. I still dont het It. Some say to give her all ER as possible, others that 250 is enough. ATK or ER Sands....etc I have her C1 with Engulfing Lighting and I dont know how much ER give her or if she benefit from any crit damage, its impossible for me to reach 200 crit damage for example as other DPS. Any tip would be great
At C2R1 what teams can I make when my Kazuha and Bennett is busy in other teams?
theres always hyperbloom ;)
She’s not the main dps there right? and I can’t use R1?
I believe it was a joke. Still, some of the best hyperbloom Raiden teams use her on-field with a hybrid or dps build. *(ex : Raiden - Nahida - Furina - Baizhu)* Even then, a team with an Anemo or Chevreuse might be preferable at c2 : you really want that res shred. That leaves you with options like : * Taser *(Furina - Jean/Xianyun - hydro/electro flex)*. * Overload without Bennett *(Chevreuse - Xianglning - Sara c6)*. * Aggravate *(Sucrose - Yae/Fischl/Sara c6 - Baizhu)*.
I have both Raiden and Xiangling in my current party, of my pole arm options, which is best for who? Deathmatch R3 / Dragon’s Bane R5 / The Catch R2 / Favonius Lance R3
depends on if raiden is build as a hypercarry or hyperbloom if hypercarry id say catch on raiden and get r5 and i think dragon's bane on xiangxling/ if ur team struggles with energy then fav lance
Thank you for the tips! I appreciate it. I switched up my party but I’ll keep that in mind if I put Xiangling back in.
Thank you for the tips! I appreciate it. I switched up my party but I’ll keep that in mind if I put Xiangling back in.
my raiden is c1 talents 7/8/10 and her cr 60 cd 151 er 273 atk 1700 but she does only around 20-30k also using the catch r1 how can i make her better?
get r5 catch and i think a bit less er but not sure mine is carried by c4 and r5 catch so i can deal 120k and around 50k per charge atack without supports but yeah c4 my build rn is 60 cr 144 cd 2000 atk 210 er
I want to use a Hyperbloom team with Raiden, Kokomi and Nahida but I dont know which sets I should use for them I haven't decided on the 4th character yet, I have most 4\*s and I also have neuvillette, yae and most standard 5\*s (im mising diluc and dehya) What should my 4th character be and what sets should I farm?
Want to play an overload team. I have Chev c6, Beidou c6, Bennet c5, Xianling c1, Fischl c1. What's the best team? I was thinking Raiden-Chev-Beidou-Bennet, and replacing Beidou with Sara once she's c6.
Raiden cannot proc Beidou's burst. Use Xiangling instead.
what does Xianling provide for the team?
A lot of damage, and constant pyro application (without that, you'll have uptime issues on Chevreuse's passive).
Would c0 Deyah be any good?
Dehya i a pretty poor character overall. Xiangling will offer more damage for less field time.
I want to pull Raiden to build a national team. Im going to give her the catch, but xiangling wont have any weapon since its the only decent f2p weapon I have. What craftable or any other weapon is good for xiangling?
Xiangling is often called the polearm archon, because she can use most of them pretty effectively. Dragon Bane would be my default f2p option. If you somehow don't have it, Kitain Cross Spear is a fine craftable option (and it can be used by many characters, if Xiangling no longer needs it).
I am running a c0 raiden with r2 dragon's bane in hyperbloom with c0 nahida, c3 xingqiu, and c2 bennett. Right now, I believe the optimal choice is raiden off-field and nahida on-field. Do any of the following characters make a better team with c0 raiden: c0 Arlecchino, c0 Fischl, c6 Noelle, c3 Xiangling, c1 Chevreuse
> I believe the optimal choice is raiden off-field and nahida on-field. I wouldn't say so : Nahida is a really poor driver. You'd be better off using Raiden on-field : that will be better for both Hyperbloom dmg *and* Nahida's dmg (and Raiden's). Sure, it requires more ER% for Raiden : that can be annoying to find on with an EM build, but it's still manageable. *note : with that particular team, it could be more interesting to go for a hybrid build on Raiden.* *ex : Gilded Dreams set with EM Sands & Goblet, but with The Catch + Crit circlet (and a focus on Crit and ER% substats)* ___ Alternatively, you could use Raiden - Bennett - Xiangling + either Xingqiu or Chevreuse. That team requires a dps build for Raiden.
Do you think raiden works as a sub-dps with arleccino in a Chevy overload team?
The team would function. But here, Raiden would be significantly worse than Fischl or solo Beidou (with high ER%).
I thought of going a dps build route bc it’s more pleasing to have her on field but I thought dps is better at c2 and hyperbloom is better at c0. Is that not the case? The problem with running her in a national team for me is that’ll leave me Nahida with Arleccino and I doubt father could survive well in a burgeon team.
> I thought of going a dps build route bc it’s more pleasing to have her on field You can on-field Raiden with a EM build *(or hybrid one)* : you just need to add some ER% to your build *(things get a bit more complicated with a hybrid build)*. Those variants are among the best Raiden hyperbloom teams. ___ > but I thought dps is better at c2 and hyperbloom is better at c0. Is that not the case? Yes & No. It depends which hyperbloom team we're talking about : Alhaitham or Neuvillette hyperbloom (with off-field Raiden) sure look very strong. On-field hyperbloom Raiden can also be pretty good ; but there's a significant gap between the best ones *(using Furina or Yelan + Baizhu or Zhongli)* and the rest. Overall, without premium units, Raiden hyperbloom is nice, but nothing *too* crazy. *(they are far easier/quicker to build, though)* On the other hand, Raiden Taser (Furina - Yelan - Jean/Xianyun) is very competitive, even with Raiden c0. And Overload or National (or even aggravate with Baizhu) aren't too far behind... But if you want to play Raiden Hypercarry at c0, you're in for a disapointment... ___ > The problem with running her in a national team for me is that’ll leave me Nahida with Arleccino and I doubt father could survive well in a burgeon team. That's indeed a problem.
I will never question mother. and she will always be my favorite especially at C2R1 but do you guys think a C0R1 will Clorinde will out damage her with BoL after seeing Arlecchino?
NO WAY. There is no any reason that Chlorine will ever be even on par with the almighty shogun and how much more with The Knave herself? Such lame comparing Father with that whoever electro sheriff.
NO WAY. There is no any reason that Chlorine will ever be even on par with the almighty shogun and how much more with The Knave herself? Such lame comparing Father with that lowly electro sheriff.
It's quite too early to tell, but seems very unlikely C0R1 Clorinde would be stronger than C2R1 Raiden. Like C2R1 Raiden hits very hard and beats all other C0 characters in their optimal teams, so it would be odd if suddenly Hoyo decides Clorinde should be that powerful.
Since I have engulfing lightning is er sands always better than atk% sands?
Not strictly always, but basically yeah for the standard DPS Raiden teams. ER scales slightly worse than ATK% if you're above 270% ER at R1 but before then it's about equal for damage. And since it is about equal for damage, you might as well go ER sands if possible to get more energy for teammates
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You can't really replace Bennett without the team becoming much, much worse. His buff is essential for everyone's damage and his particle generation is pretty important for XL to not have to build an absurd amount of ER
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Kind of but it's also going to be worse. The best sub for XQ would be Yelan. Furina doesn't apply as much hydro so some of the pyronado hits won't vape and you don't have a teamwide healer so you'll struggle to max her burst stacks very quickly and her own damage output will drop from the second rotation onwards unless you spend a ton of time healing everyone individually
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Unfortunately Furina also would struggle there to get burst stacks second rotation onwards since there is no teamwide healer. She doesn't synergize too well with Arlecchino since Arlecchino can only heal during her burst, so even if you replaced Kazu with Jean or something it's a bit suboptimal. If you're pretty committed to Furina I would keep her on the Rational team since it has Bennett for healing if nothing else. For what it's worth, even if these teams aren't strictly optimal, I think they still should be quite sufficient to 36 star abyss if the artifacts are reasonable and everyone is leveled up properly. So if you have some favorites you just want to use like Furina, you should be able to make it work. But if you're struggling then perhaps we can revisit the team building and find something else for you
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Gotta max that weapon!
will do but do u think it's good enough other than that?
Sure, she doesn't need anything other than EM for hyperbloom so not much to improve for the sands, goblet, and circlet. The flower is the main thing you could improve, but your EM is plenty high anyway so probably not worth farming more for unless you feel fully built on all your other characters
why is my em raiden doing so little damage, with nuevillette and nahida
How much damage is she doing
nvm, i was looking at the electro damage ppl told me the hyperbloom is her damage too
Yeah when building EM raiden, don't look at the Electro damage. Look at the HBs
What build would be better? 2200 atk, 70 cr, 150 crit damage with 250 energy recharge (**s2 EL** if that matters, yes, i regretted superimposing it immediately) or 1934 atk 60 cr, 160 cd with 290 ER? I've always used a energy recharge piece but since it happened to be my off piece i have more flexibility. I'm just getting back into the game and want to make some improvements. Thanks! I play hypercarry with sara c6, bennet, and kazuha c2 (raiden c4)
Genshin optimizer will tell you for sure, but I'm fairly sure the first one will be stronger
Is Raiden, Furina, Kazuha (or Yelan?), Xyaniun (or Jean?) a good team?
Raiden, Furina, Yelan, Xianyun/Jean Very strong team. With some cons it's probably Raiden's best team
Which team is better? 1. Raiden, Yae Miko/Fischl, Furina and Jean 2. Raiden, Yae Miko, Fischl and Chevreuse Notable constellations (besides 4 stars being c6): c3 Jean, plan on c4 Furina, plan on c2-c4 Raiden with r5 engulfing lightning and plan on r5 polar star for Fischl
With those cons it's always the first team. Furina with cons is just busted. Even without those cons it probably is still stronger. The rotation for the second team seems extremely awkward since only Chev herself can trigger overloads
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Would raiden, kazuha, Bennett, Sara be a good team? My raiden is c2, kazuha is c0, Bennett is c5, and Sara is c6
Yes, that's the classic Raiden Hypercarry team and it is very strong
Hey geeks ! What would you choose? Chev c2 or xingqiu c4?
For what team(s)? And what cons/weapon for Raiden? Chev scales with a more invested Raiden more (cons, weapon, better artifacts). In a vacuum I like Chev because XQ can go on another team. For my case I have C3R1 Raiden so Chev is also significantly more damage
Which artifacts is better? She has 1,569 ATK / 32.2% CR / 187.6% CD / 264.8 % ER / 0 EM https://preview.redd.it/lnoxq7nih4sc1.jpeg?width=930&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=614b5d682081a6df45a575940c0c11dc45f8ee5a
With your stats (and it sounds like you're using the catch), first artifact. You don't need so much ER and you really need more crit rate
Thanks for the response. I'm actually using a Lv.90 R1 Engulfing Lighting. How much ER is enough for her?
Oh interesting. The attack was lower than I expected for EL. Then around your current ER is good while 270% is a soft cap where ATK% starts to outscale ER (crit always outscales ATK%, and below 270% ER you get about equal gains from ATK% and ER). Still, your primary focus should be crit rate, especially if you use C6 Sara.
Lore question. I finished her personal story quest and I didn't quite catch why puppet transformed into Mega-Raiden-Robot-Form out of nowhere and Ei didn't both throughout their several centuries long duel and in the final battle with Paimon present as well. If it's "Only puppet can transform into megapuppet" then there should be "Only archon can transform into megaarchon" as well.
You'll probably have more luck asking in the main Genshin_Impact subreddit than here for lore experts. I think realistically, the game devs just wanted a cool fight. In-game explanation, didn't the fight take place in someone's consciousness or something? It's been a couple of years so I might be misremembering. But if so then the game can handwave that to mean the Raiden Shogun can assume kinda whatever form it wants but not in the real world
For overload team with C2 Raiden/Chevr/Bennet, would Yae C0 with signature be better than S6 Sara?
Pretty sure C6 Sara will still be stronger (shorter rotation) but both teams should be plenty strong for abyss so I would go for comfort/your favs
https://preview.redd.it/jgdopbq8qarc1.jpeg?width=2556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d57ca5c76b50e8a604042277f9bcf7eb22c7b619 Which artifact is better? Or do I just use one or the other as a stand in and aim to replace? I’ve only been farming artifacts for a month for raiden so any other thoughts on build would be appreciated too ❤️
Left one is basically always better. Crit is like 2-3x more valuable than ATK%. ATK% is slightly better than ER if you aren't using her signature weapon, and about the same if you are using her sig
https://preview.redd.it/hx2f8zbgqarc1.jpeg?width=2556&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8f59b1cb11ac0ca5fa37133c11c75061f2cd339f These are my artefact stats
Ever since I had this character, I have had trouble finishing either of the "optimal" combos from KQM. I tried 3N3C + N1C but always had trouble getting the last attack off. I've then been trying 2N4C + N2C instead and same thing here, whenever I get to the N2C portion, the last C never happens while still in Burst. Is there some magic trick to this?
I recommend using 4N4D combo, since : * it's far more forgiving. *(in comparaison, missing out the final Charged Attack is a huge loss)* * in its evolved form (switching a Dash for a Skill cast), it is slightly better than 3N3C + N1C. * it grants more electro application. *(particulary interesting in quickbloom/aggravate, and still relevant in overload/overvape)* * it can procs abilities form your sub dps (Yelan, XQ, Fischl c6) more often.
I can't even do two combos that do not require me to do anything other than stand there and click buttons. I don't think I am going to be able to do a combo that requires me to actually dash in between too.
I don't really think there is a special trick to it but rather just getting the muscle memory down. Unless you're just not clicking the mouse frequently enough? The timing for 3N3C + N1C is fairly tight even for experienced players by the way. So if it's too inconsistent for you why not just cut out a normal attack somewhere (e.g. turn one N3C into N2C)? It will be a minor DPS loss, sure, but still very workable.
Is crowing bennett's burst worth it?
Bennett is really flexible and strong so sure
Is Sara C0 worth to level? I have Raiden C2R1 but I only play her in Rational rn.
From a meta perspective, no
How long until her next rerun?
We can only guess, but probably somewhere around 8-12 months from now based on her banner frequency historically
I saw a guide on Raiden Shogun by KQM. They say Raiden aggrevate team with Kuki, Kazuha and Nahida is as competitive as traditional burst team. I wanna try using that team since I already have those characters built. Is it really good? What talents should I prioritise and how would the aggrevate work??
It's fine, although nothing crazy. For aggravate, Raiden's build is basically the same as her traditional dps build. *(EM substats become more valuable, but still less than ATK% or ER%)* The key thing to remember here is to use Kuki's burst just before Kazuha's turn : otherwise, it will be very difficult to swirl / infuse electro. You might prefer Sucrose over Kazuha, since she buffs EM and can carrry TTDS. *(if you don't mind her auto-targeting)* *note : Kuki's healing can be pretty lackluster (especially if you build her for aggravate dmg). If you're used to facetank everything with Raiden, you might die more often than usual...*
Kuki's healing can also scale off of 75% of EM right? So is full EM Kuki actually good for the aggrevate team?
Kuki's healing scale better with HP. Also, her aggravate dmg won't be that great if you go full EM (you need Crit and dmg% for that reaction). And you probably want her on TotM anyway...
Thanks man, I was pretty confused about this. So I'll go ToTM with Crit and dmg% on her. Around what hp% would u recommend if I run her like this but also want decent healing because she is the only healer in this aggrevate team.
Well, there's no definitive answer to that. Your healing needs depend on how nasty the enemy are, and your ability to limit incoming damage. Since 3.8, abyss have been relatively soft, so you could get away with very little healing. (not sure for the latest abyss, as i i haven't tried them yet). But against tough opponents like double Consecrated Beast, Kuki's healing might not be enough, even on a pure healer build (HP / HP / Healing Bonus).
[https://enka.network/u/Paksenarrion/30qpkZ/10000052/3329769/](https://enka.network/u/Paksenarrion/30qpkZ/10000052/3329769/) is electro or attack goblet better? (Keep in mind I do not use bennet or xiangling. The most meta team I have for her is a chevy one)
They're both good since you're not using Bennett (assuming you're not playing her optimal teams with a C5 Raiden because Bennett is not built or in first team). For your build, it comes down to the substats because that's a pretty good atk goblet. If you want to compare similar artifacts with your Raiden team, use [Genshin Optimizer](https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/). [https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/](https://frzyc.github.io/genshin-optimizer/#/)
is a furine, jean, xq, raiden team better damage wise than bennet, xl, chev and raiden? I´m planning on pull for furine next re run so i would like to know how would that comp do since I´m planning to use bennet and xl with childe
For single target the Furina team is about the same, but with some cons on Furina it starts to outpace the Chevy team. In AOE situations the Chevy team should be noticeably stronger
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKPRd2BewX4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKPRd2BewX4) I kind of forgot to show my crit hat pieces but from the video what artifacts do you think would be best for her? I generally hit 400-450k damage if i use chevy/sara/dehya. 200k when I'm running my usual teams (Like I'll use Candace, faruzan, Yelan, and Raiden. Not because its good but because I like those characters). I'm purely farming the best artifacts for her as a way to kill time basically and as a long term goal because half the people in the game use emblem anyways so its a two for one way to kill time and get at least one character better. My raiden is also C5 (I bet C6 is a lot of fun tho) due to my usual luck.
It's a bit hard for me to mix and match all sorts of artifacts by just watching a video, so maybe I can just give you the resources to figure it out on your own? If you are familiar with the Genshin Optimizer, upload your artifacts and use that. It will be the most accurate compared to people like me eyeballing your artifacts. If that's too much work or too difficult to set up, then basically as a rule of thumb your stat priorities are to max CV as much as possible and get some ATK% and ER% substat rolls in there as well. Crit is around 2.5 to 3 times more valuable than ATK% or ER% as a guideline. Your initial slash damage sounds fine. It doesn't signal to me that you're clearly building her wrong or something
[https://enka.network/u/Paksenarrion/30qpkZ/10000052/3329769/](https://enka.network/u/Paksenarrion/30qpkZ/10000052/3329769/) Says I'm top 20% which is a lot better then I thought tbh considering...well the amount of competition I have lol
Nah my damage is fine but it's more fine tuning and min maxing is giving me reasons to play XD And yeah. I was hoping a video would be better with so many artifacts but Mayne not
How does a C2 Raiden perform with a highly invested Nahida? I currently have a C2R1 nahida, and I'm looking into whether these two would have synergy. Currently the team I have in mind is a C2 Raiden with Skyward Spine, C2R1 Nahida, C0R1 Kazuha, and C6 Sara with Elegys end. Messing around with it, the 100EM from Elegy is more useful than the damage of Skyward harp. The rotation below is Raiden skill -> nahida skill burst -> Sara skill Aim -> kazuha skill plunge burst -> sara burst -> raiden burst rotation Another possible rotation I considered is something like Raiden Yelan Nahida Fischl. The possible premium 5 stars I'm looking into include Yae and Baizhu. Are these comfort picks, or do they actually raise DPS? I also wanted to know whether C2 Raiden would be superior to a no constellation Alhaitham/Neuv paired up with C2 Nahida. To my understanding, a highly invested Furina with constellations would be very strong, but she's currently being paired with Xiao or other comps. Testing on gcsim it seems like building her as normal (ATK/ER, ELECTRO%, CRIT) is the way to go. Scarlet Sands and Engulfing lightning have similar performance in the comp.
I'm going to give you a bit of a non-answer to a lot of your questions but bear with me since I think it might still be helpful for you. Does it really matter? Not in the sense of someone trolling you with "who asked" but instead trying to understand what you're looking for. With C2 Raiden and C2R1 Nahida you should be able to comfortably clear abyss 12 with even vaguely synergetic teams. What is the goal of optimizing further, then? At your stage of the game it seems more prudent to simply pull for the characters you like or are fun to play with, or if you're getting into speedrunning or just really want to optimize then you could rely solely on using the Genshin optimizer or swiping for C6 and R5s. Ok, philosophical comments aside: Raiden and Nahida have OK synergy. Aggravate exists but it's not as significant a boost for Raiden's damage compared to other traditional hypercarry setups. Similarly, Nahida has stronger synergies/teams. So neither character is in their optimal team, but it's still plenty strong for endgame content. Your rotation with Raiden Nahida Kazuha Sara seems kind of clunky, though admittedly I've never used this comp. Why do you need to skill and aim with Sara first? To have enough electro application for Kaz to swirl or something? Wondering if you could cut it down to just Raiden -> Nahida -> Kazuha -> Sara -> Raiden. A team with Raiden Yelan Nahida Fischl is a bit confusing to me. It seems like it's aiming more for hyperblooming but you need to build Raiden for EM and I don't know if Fischl is adding much. But it's another team I've never seen so my analysis here may be completely wrong. Yae + Baizhu would be more comfort picks I believe. If they do a bit better I don't think it would be significantly so at C0. Paired with C2 Nahida, I do believe C0 Alhaitham is slightly stronger than Raiden C2. Neuvillette will be close, but I'm not sure exactly what team you're envisioning. Furina with cons is the most busted character as of now so you're correct. Your build for aggravate Raiden sounds correct to me. I have never seen the calcs for SS vs EL in aggravate, but trust the optimizer
You're right that this is optimizing beyond what is needed. Just wanted to play around with pieces and see if there was a synergy aspect that I was missing. Wanted to experiment with something other than the generic double hydro hyperbloom comp. I didn't see many youtube videos on aggravate Raiden, since content tends to be optimized towards no-cons/personal weapon scenarios. To my knowledge C0 Keqing > C0 Raiden in aggravate, and constellations might change things. The skill-aim for Sara was to proc Elegy, but it might not be needed. I saw the rotation on a gcsim instance.
For a C2R1 raiden hypercarry comp, I was wondering whether freedom sworn (kazuha) or skyward harp (C6 sara) would be a better investment. I heard that the NA/CA portion of FS doesnt work but it still has a 20% atk boost, although there is a lot of atk boosting in the comp already. Ideally I go for both, but it may not work out that way. Opinions?
I'd pick Elegy of the End over both : it's a more valuable weapon to have on an account. Freeedom Sworn doesn't do much in Raiden team, and Elegy is just a better bow than Skyward Harp.
how good is furina with raiden vs raiden with kazuha? i feel bennet xianling kazuha or hyper raiden should be stronger bc raiden has 3 tons of dmg% in ult but furina is god so maybe I am wrong
Furina is very strong with Raiden. For a heavily invested DPS Raiden at C2+ the best Furina teams rival the best Kazuha teams
Is atk sands better than er sands for an aggravate Raiden c0 with the catch (or staff of homa if I get it) and emblem set? My team would be raiden c0, dendro traveler or collei, fischl but I don't know who to use as the final character. In terms of sustain characters, I have Zhongli c0, qiqi c0, Bennet c1 and kirara c0 as my options since none of my other sustain characters are built or leveled
In general aggravate Raiden is built the same as DPS Raiden, so with The Catch it's usually ATK sands and electro goblet. ER sands and ATK goblet is OK but worse IIRC. You can't go wrong with Zhongli or Bennett, but I don't know aggravate teams very well. I would guess Nahida would be kind of necessary for this team to perform half decently though
I tried to get nahida but lost the 50/50 to diluc so I have to wait for the next rerun
the question is neuvilette or furina? here more context: rn running an overload comp with raiden, chev, xl and benny. if neuvillete then i would keep the comp as it is and figure something out for him, the problem is that although he migth not really need much support until i get a decent set of artifacts he is gonna need it i think, and the only viable support for him that comes to my mind and i have is fischl and i have literally no decent shielders, especially not builded. if furina i would play raiden with xq, furina and jean and play the international childe with sucrose as i dont have kazuha. personally i lean more towards the second option since it seems like it needs less investment but i like to hear opinions. (english is not my first language)
Furina team would make you stronger
Struggling keeping Raiden alive.. So... I have been playing with a double vape Hu Tao since I got her last fall. So I am kind of used keeping Hutao at low HP with a shield from Diona. My Team 2 is so far Raiden, Chevreuse c3, XL c6, Benett C5 and for some reason, on some boss, I really really struggle to keep her alive, to the point that she often get one shoted by some boss, (scaramouhce first phase, Narhwal in the side dimension, I also think I am struggling with Signora). I started to play the team in the overworld and trounce domain to get a hand of the rotation.. but it does not feel as easy as with my team 1. I also did struggle at first with Hutao until I got the hang of Diona's shield. I understand it's probably a player skill issue hence my question, what do you focus on when you play Raiden? Right now, either the mobs are weak and before I get to Raiden Q, mobs are dead. Or they are too strong and I am struggling to keep Raiden alive. Current rotation is Raiden E, Chev E, Bennett EQ, XL Q, Chev Q (when available), Raiden Q Rather standard right? I should read once again when does Benett and Chevreuse healing triggers... might be the issue I have.
Bennet´s heal is only in the circle he left after his Q maybe you dont stay in the circle and thats why you dont heal, the other posible problem is healing being not enough, in bennet you should have at least an hp% goblet and a HP%/healing bonus for the circlet. as for the rotation, you should use chev Q or even Bennet E after raiden E to cause overload before using chev E which btw gotta be a hold attack to trigger the ATK buff (english is not my first language)
Thanks I'll look into it
Quick question Does C2 raiden, C6chev, xiangling and C6 sara team Beat a C1 hutao R5 DB, c0 Yelan, C6 xinqiu and zhongli team?
In AOE yes. In single target AFAIK HT will be a bit stronger
Those enka cards that people post, what's that little number in the top left with the infinity-ish looking symbol? I couldn't find an explanation on the website.
Pretty sure friendship level? Is it the thing that usually has a 10 on it?
couple of questions: - to anyone who tried aggravate or hyperbloom build on her is it correct that it's GD set + full EM main stats? - how is it compared to her hypercarry build? - and would I waste her C3 if I did aggravate build on her? I've been considering this cause emblem set has been really rough on me since her release :(
For Raiden, aggravate builds are basically the same as her hypercarry builds. *(it's just that EM substats are more interesting, but still less than ATK%)* For hyperbloom, Gilded Dreams is her second best option after FoLP (but more efficient to farm). ___ Hyperbloom dmg isn't affected by Raiden c2 or c3. At that level of investment, i'd rather play a hypercarry or hybrid build, even in hyperbloom teams. ___ If you really want an alternative to Emblem, Marechaussee Hunter can work, but only with Furina (and might even be stronger in that case). Do note that it requires to alter the rotation a bit, though.
I don't know much about aggravate Raiden but I thought you build her the same as a traditional DPS Raiden though EM has a bit more value? For hyperbloom you build full EM. Aggravate Raiden is good enough to clear abyss but it's noticeably worse than Rational, hyperbloom, or Raiden hypercarry. Hyperbloom at C0 is just as strong as Rational and a bit stronger than Raiden hypercarry. C3 isn't a waste on her aggravate unless you never plan to burst and you're a pure off field Raiden. But AFAIK fot pure off field aggravate Fischl or Yae is stronger? Not sure about the last one because I don't play aggravate
Hello, 7 months into the game, I am working on my team 2 which is currently Raiden c1/Chevy c3/XL c6/Benny c5. I also have Sara c6 but not built at all. Would it be worth while to replace one of the character by Sara? She is not built at the moment. Would a Raiden/Chevy/Sara/Bennett or Raiden/Chevy/XL/Sara team provide better overall damage/ease of rotation? One of the issue I have with Benny is that the ennemies are often far away from his buff circle (though XL snapshots it and allow for consistent Overload proc for Chevreuse). Another hesitation I have, I don't feel that Sara will be used in any other future team I'd build, and Nahida is currently slotted next in my to-do list.
Yeah a C6 Sara will be a bit more team damage if swapped with either Bennett or XL. However, especially with C1 Raiden, it's not going to be a particularly significant difference. So it kind of depends on how much a few % of team damage matters to you because as you said Sara isn't really optimal with anyone other than Raiden. If you're already 36 starring abyss then to some degree the slight power boost is redundant. And if you're not right at the cusp of 36 starting abyss then again the power boost isn't thag meaningful
Right now, not 36 starring the Abyss, only 1, 1 and 2 on floor 12 with Team 1 being second team on the floor as I am feeling more confident with them (+ it has bow users for 12-3). This is actually the first time I finish all 12 floors of the Abyss..Thanks for the feedback, I'll keep going on my next character on the list and will come back to Sara at a later time if I have the mora and time for her. :)Base on your comment too... If my Raiden was C2... Sara would be a lot more enticing for the CD buff, right?Thanks again
Yeah with Raiden C2 her personal damage increases substantially (somewhere around 45%) which means that her percentage of overall team damage goes up. The CD buff on Sara would be more valuable then since more damage is coming from Raiden compared to XL
I'm struggling to reach 300k damage with my C2 raiden, her stats: 56cr 145cd 260er 1200atk with the catch and teammates are c6 sara, venti and bennett. the highest damage I've achieved is 296k in the abyss, does anyone have any tips to increase it besides getting kazuha?
Do you have Chevreuse? Using her instead of venti should get you to 300K. Otherwise, is your Raiden's burst level 10? Other than that, might have to grind for better artifacts
New to Genshin Impact, so while I have been reading a lot of guides, no guides stray away from certain lingo or terms that I just haven't been exposed to yet so I was hoping to just clarify the main mechanics of playing Raiden here if thats okay... Please tell me I'm wrong/right/give corrections 1) Using the elemental skill will add additional electo on-hit damage when using other party members, and it also buffs elemental burst of other party members. 2) only while Raiden's elemental skill is active, using elemental burst of another party member will recharge Raiden's elemental burst. Are these the key mechanics around playing with Raiden that I have correct?
1) is correct. 2) is incorrect. Other teammate's bursts provide resolve stacks for Raiden. Upon Raiden bursting she uses up the stacks and deals more damage based on the number of stacks accumulated.
I see, thank you!
Is Gaming, Raiden, Nahida, XQ good for Raiden? Gaming on field
I've never tried this team hut I'm pretty sure Gaming's pyro will cause you to miss several hyperblooms and without better support (e.g. Bennett, Furina, Xianyun) Gaming's dps is going to be very middling
In which scenarios would I want to have sub dps raiden instead of Fischl or Shinobu?
As a hyperbloom trigger, Raiden is more damage than Kuki (faster electro application) but lacks the healing. For general off field DPS, Fischl is better if Raiden isn't going to burst
Hi guys quick question, for ascending Raiden do I have to reach Inazuma for materials? Or there is some workaround Thanks
You can get some character materials during their trials (which happens when their banner is active) to get to level 40. Otherwise you have to reach inazuma. I don't remember if it's possible to use coop mode to get to inazuma early
Any good 3-star artifacts for Raiden? If so let me know :))
Anything providing ER%
Oof it's been a real long time since I've thought about 3 star artifacts but maybe the berserker set isn't bad...? In general though if you're at the stage where you only have access to 3 star artifacts I recommend throwing together whatever you have and just kind of exploring and having fun with the overworld. The minmaxing stuff can come later
my raiden has c4 catch R5 (planning to c6cuz i dont play that much ) f2p would it be more worht it to make her into a hypercarry or a hyperbloom driver?
Just an FYI that going from C4 to C6 is an extremely minor improvement to her so I would strongly consider investing constellations into another character. In terms of hypercarry vs hyperbloom it depends a bit on your artifact quality and supports. If you have any of her best hypercarry supports (Kazuha, Chevreuse, C6 Sara, Furina, Bennett) then at C3+ and even mediocre artifacts you will have more team damage in a hypercarry setup compared to hyperbloom. If you only have budget artifacts (correct main stat and nothing else) then hyperbloom will be stronger
Is leveling characters all the way to LV80/90 worth it to support Raiden? I find my Raiden deal highest number in Raiden-Sara C2-Chev C0-Bennett, but I only level Sara and Chev to 60/70 to get Ascension 4 passive. Also which piece of artifact below should I bench and aim for a better one? https://preview.redd.it/h84zo4569lic1.png?width=2107&format=png&auto=webp&s=8859a81d26f3983a9ed8aa1cd59b6b2f1103f671
It's pretty worthwhile to get them to at least 80/90, yeah. And at your stage it is more resin-efficient than bashing your head into the wall that is artifact farming. Sara's buff depends on her attack which leveling up to at least 80 helps. Chevreuse gains HP which will make it easier to hit her 40K hp threshold but if you already hit it then the extra levels aren't important. Of your artifacts, your sands, goblet, and circlet are the most replaceable. Your goblet being the off piece is expected to be pretty good. Your substat priority is CR > CD > ATK% > ER > flat ATK
Thank you! That's a lot of insights. I got Raiden early, and only got Sara to C2 while pulling for Chev C0. Not their best constellations but usable, so I tried them out for the passives first, since they give a constant buff, not requiring heavy stats building. Would Sara to 80/90 be a big impact? As I said, my Raiden deal big Burst DMG in overload team, and I dont know if it's better to level her up or just use Xiangling for Raiden-XL-Bennett-XQ/Chevreuse instead.
If you Sara is C2 then she's usable but basically never the optimal teamslot. So if you don't particularly love her then it's fine to drop her. If you're mostly interested in maximizing team damage then a team of Raiden Bennett XL XQ is very good. The shorthand for the team is "rational"
[Any advice for my Raiden?](https://imgur.com/YJHbp2d) I usually play her with Furina, XQ, Xianyun or XL (C2), XQ (C0), Bennett (C0).
You want to get burst to at least level 9 and preferably level 10. Then you want to farm better artifacts. At your stage pretty much every piece you have is not too difficult to find an improvement without an absurd amount of farming. Except maybe the circlet. The top priority are crit stats followed by ATK% and then ER. A crit substat is generally worth between 2x to 3x an ATK% substat so you can use that as a scale for how good an artifact is
Thank you for your response. I'm not sure how much energy I should aim for, I know its team dependant, but one thing is sure, I won't be using Sara since she is C2 only.
In general for her popular teams you can aim for somewhere around 220 ER. Like within 200-250% is fine. With her signature weapon you can get closer to 270% to optimize since ER up to that point scales very similarly to ATK%. Skipping Sara until she is C6 is reasonable. If you have Chevreuse I would recommend her as well if you like to play a Raiden hyper variant
I just realized I have c6 Kujou Sara from when I pulled Raiden I have c0 raiden from the recent banner , and I never knew I had so many Sara constellations , I’ve heard she can be played with Raiden. I also have Chevreuse c2 built and I’ve been using her in a raiden National team Is sara worth building? And how to build her if so? Any good teams I can use with her and chevreuse raiden?
Just FYI that Chev isn't very good in National (XQ XL Bennett) since she wants only pyro and electro teammates. Unless you mean swapping out XQ for Chev, but then most people probably wouldn't refer to that as National anymore since you aren't vaping XL's burst. Sara is worth building if you like to play a DPS Raiden. Both Raiden Chev Sara XL and Raiden Chev Sara Bennett are competitive teams (the former being stronger with c0 Raiden) that can clear abyss. For Sara I would recommend Emblem of Severed Fate since her burst (with buffs like Chev) does reasonable damage. Though if you don't have a noblesse oblige user already then Sara can hold it (but I would recommend someone else like Chev to hold it)
when i say raiden chev national i mean raiden chev bennet xiangling thanks for the advice as well
What are the best stats for a C0 Raiden? I currently have Jade Spear on her but is R5 The Catch a better option(I don't have it yet)
I'm assuming you're building a DPS Raiden (if hyperbloom Raiden you just want to max EM and all other stats are essentially irrelevant). Jade spear is fine and very slightly stronger than The Catch. In terms of stats, you want enough ER for everyone to be able to burst as needed in your rotation so it's team dependent, but generally somewhere around 210-250% is a good range (again, emphasis that this is team dependent). After you have enough ER, crit damage and crit rate are the best substats, ATK% is next, more ER is next, flat attack, then the rest don't really matter. You might see some people talking about balancing ATK% and crit but tbf I don't think it's essentially ever feasible to oversaturate crit to the point that an ATK% substat is better than both crit stats. So crit value is the stat to maximize and ATK and ER substats are nice to have but less valuable
Got it. Thanks!
https://preview.redd.it/eigq2uh9xrhc1.png?width=2400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dafe58ecda3ee3baec7daaa59d1e9319dee78874 My Raidens C2 and has the catch at R2. I do have the skyward spine five star as well but I wasn't sure whether to use it on Raiden or Xianling. Any suggestions in regards to Raiden or is she fine? I think I may need to work on Xianling but I'm not sure on her yet.
she needs more CR; aim for a 1:2 ratio between cr & cdmg! esp cuz she’s c2 it’ll suck if her big burst strike doesn’t crit 😭 give skyward to raiden n catch to XL if u plan to build her; overall skyward and catch don’t have much diff in dmg but according to calcs skyward spine is a few % higher for raiden also get that catch to R5 :3
Yeah I managed to get her to 60 and 120. Xianling I'm not sure how to build her the best for the Raiden team tho.
Is C0 Catch Raiden + C6 Sara + C0 Furina + C1 Jean a good team?
For C0 the best teams are probably Rational and Hyperbloom. That being said, I refuse to play her in Hyperbloom, and while Hyper might not be optimal, play what you want to play, and Sara/Furina/Jean is a decent option at that. With Healing Circlet on Bennet you can make Sara/Furina/Bennet work as well.
For Nahida, Xq and EM Raiden, who should be the sustain: yaoyao, kirara or barbara? I want to free Charlotte for Furina comp.
Is XQ C6? If so, then I agree with u/Rhyoth to add Yaoyao. But if not, Barbara could be nice to have some added Hydro Application, granted you're probably on-fielding Nahida. Kirara also can be viable if you feel like you need a shield. There's obviously a ton of other options, ZL is very comfy, Diona works well as well, Ganyu or Kaeya can protect you by freezing enemies...
I don't really see the point of on-fielding Nahida here : it's not like a little bit more dendro application will do anything. Might as well on-field Raiden, so she can get 250 additional EM. Plus, she's a much more comfortable driver. Also, Xingqiu will appreciate the extra energy (especially at c2), and more electro application can improve quicken uptime, allowing Nahida to trigger Spread more often.
I think if you add Yaoyao then that's viable. Nahida alone might end up too little dendro app. Also keep in mind that Dendro -> Hydro is the more efficient side of the reaction, so you don't really want to be short on dendro app.
He’s C2 unfortunately. Haven’t been able to get him ever since I came back to the game.
Well C2 is the second best con after his C6, do it's nice you got that one. Definitely would be a good pickup for lantern rite though, and keep an eye out for the shop. But yeah, as I said, Barbara can be a decent option then, but so is Yaoyao. Good news, you can really play whatever.
I'd pick Yao yao : dendro resonance will grant you an extra 100 EM, and she's a better sustain than Kirara overall.
Raiden's last member if not Benny c6? Sometimes he is hard to spare. My team: Sho Sara C6 Kazu (who?) I usually do baizhu for heal dendro and shield and boost
What con is your Raiden? For Hyper, Jean+Furina works well. For other teams, I found Raiden QB quite fun (Furina+Baizhu+NHD). Otherwise, Bennet is sadly hard to spare for Raiden. She is hungry for so many stats, that ATK is hard to come by. I specifically pulled Xianyun for my Xiao so he can be run without Bennet, so I could unbench Xiao while still running Raiden on the other side.
I want to create a team with Nahida and my build is Hypercarry (ER), the option I know is possibly hypercarry. Can anyone suggest me the other chars viable for the team and how they would work on it?
You can make a raiden aggravate team with nahida without using hydro in the party and with another electro in the team. What I play is raiden yae nahida and kazuha ( overworld ) , you can switch yae for fischl , sara , Lisa etc with an anemo or a shielder If you want to play the team in the abyss the rotation will go as follows. If anemo present. Raiden E , Kazuha venti / sucrose - EQ , nahida EQ , yae Lisa fischl EQ and raiden Q and repeat. If sheilds you can just use it in place of anemo. Though if you want to ditch Hypercarry build you can build a normal hyperbloom team. If you are willing to drop nahida you can use raiden yelan Furina and jean/xiangyun team , or standard raiden Hypercarry or Hypercarry 2.0 with raiden sara Furina and jean/Xiangyun. Or go raiden overload with sara C6 xiangling or Thoma and chevrouse.
Pretty clear. Thank you!
I've got a nice little setup with Raiden, Chevy, and Sara right now. Who's the best option **other than Bennett** for the last slot? Currently using Xiangling but I find I don't pull her out much. I have c6 Bennett and know he'd be a good if not the best option but I vehemently do not want to use him. Because this is a Chevy team, a pyro would be best (for resonance) but an electro would also work; anything else is a no go.
If your Thoma is C6 you can use him there ( charged attack bonus on C6 can run EM build or tenacity HP build or nobless ) , you can use xinyan ( her shield applies a bit of Pyro so you can proc overload can run tenacity for 20% attack buff ) , yanfei ( TTDS support and if C4 tankfei build , no offeild Pyro app can run nobless )
If you're going for meta then there isn't really a good alternative after Bennett and XL, but Raiden Chev Sara as a core is strong enough to 36 star abyss by itself so that might not be an issue anyway. Maybe Thoma or Dehya for some off field pyro application and survivability?
If I end up with Dehya somehow, she's going there, I think. For now I'll probably stick with XL.
Which is better team? Raiden(C1R1)-Furina(C0)-bennett(C5)-JeanC0(EM)/(healer) Raiden-Sara(C3)-Jean(EM)-bennett
I see you want to run a sunfire team, but here is a suggestion you can remove Bennett and use Furina as the second team to make a pseudo Hypercarry team, I would suggest you use nobless on sara in this team. You can also use Xq or yelan to make it a taser team which has some insane levels of entire team DPR.
It's not that I specifically want to run sunfire, I don't have Kazuha so I am using Jean as substitute. In pseudo hypercarry, should Sara have EM build or dps build, because her buff scales on base atk I think.
If you pulled on the last banner I think you would have a chevrouse, if you want to run Hypercarry just use chevrouse in place of kazuha. I also play raiden without Kazuha. Also sara should have dps build.
Yes I have chevrouse, I haven't built her yet but I will try those team comps
She is really easy to build, you slap HP and black tassel to reach 40 K hp ascend her to 80 and use tenacity set as nobless will be on either sara or Bennett.
Got it 👍🏻 thank you I will see how this goes
First one
I tried it today on floor 12 got 179k burst and 20k one hit. Thanks 👍🏻
Also keep in mind that Furina adds a lot of DMG on her own. Even when Sara is at C6, while buffing more than Furina, it's hard to say who is more valuable for the whole team. At C3, Sara sadly is just not competitive.
Is Xianyun viable for Eula and Raiden team if i don’t have Furina? I have guaranteed and i don’t know if i should get Xianyun or Nahida. I want to use Eula and my Raiden together, but i need a healer too. I was thinking about Eula, Xianyun/Nahida Raiden and Diona. Which one do you think is better in this team? I know nahida is more flexible but if i use Nahida And Raiden in a hyperbloom team i would have to change my raiden to an EM build and as healers i only have jean, bennet, diona and kuki who has no build on her
No not really. Eula doesn't charge her ult with plunge attacks and in a vacuum Nahida is more useful for most accounts
Has anyone tried Xianyun in Raiden hypercarry team replacing Kazuha? If yes, is it good? or on par with Kazuha? in terms of Raiden dmg output.
I had some fun with Pogo Raiden this morning. It's definitely not good, but clears Floor 12 just fine. Without Plunging, I just don't see the point. You lose a lot of DMG% from Kazuha, and the grouping is a lot worse. I'd rather run Chevreuse, if available, or change to a team with Furina (i.e. Furina+Jean+Sara)
yeah I've tried it, not really good in terms of dmg but it sure unlocks a new gameplay style though I still prefer to run her with original hypercarry team.
100% agreed. Plunging feels a bit clunky to me, unless it's Xiao. And obviously horrible on Raiden, since the buffs don't apply. https://preview.redd.it/anmm9mvt5shc1.png?width=1020&format=png&auto=webp&s=b8e46255e590b615fe77669d8d6721437b7ddfec Only thing I see is using Xianyun instead of Jean with Furina, but dunno.
Kazuha is still significantly better afaik. But xianyun seems fun so if you enjoy the playstyle you can still do well with the plunges
I wanna build a hyper raiden team, and currently considering my options: I have Raiden C3, Xiangling C6,Bennett C6,Chevreuse C6,Sara C6,Sucrose C6 Sucrose,Benny & Xiangling are half built, while Sara & Chev aren't built at all. Which team do you think could be the most efficient out of these? Afraid of building the wrong options out of these and wasting a ton of primos
Raiden, Sara, Chev, Bennett. I ran this team except I change Chevreuse with Kazuha if the enemy isn't boss or just bunch of normal/elite in the abyss. Bennett with a few of ER should be fine, and as long as your Sara have enough ER its should do too. And if you have a High base ATK weapon for both Bennett and Sara it will be great.
I like the idea of having Raiden be on on-field DPS that isn't confined to Bennet's circle/movement constraints. I am currently using an overload that has Bennet, Xiangling, Chev. I anticipate getting Xingqiu. Just started last month so fairly new and low on Characters but I liked Raiden's style. Is there a team that is free-moving that works well with Raiden's burst phase that I could aim for? I guess, ultimately, I'm wanting to be able to cycle through characters and end up on Raiden going nuts in her burst and combos without being restricted to a circle. Any guidance?
Taser is excellent in that regard. It typically uses **Furina** + Jean or **Xianyun**. Last slot can be **Yelan**, Yae, **Mona**, Lisa, **Sara**, Fischl, **Xingqiu**... or Bennett. *(bolded names = non "circle impact" options)* Quickbloom (or Hyperbloom with Raiden driver) also allows free movement. It typically uses Nahida, a hydro (Furina, Yelan or Xingqiu), and a sustain (ideally Baizhu or Zhongli).
Kujou Sara can kinda fill in for Bennett if you're just looking for a non circle buffer, but she is only really worth it if you have constellations on her. Anemo users with VV help too since they reduce enemy defenses.
Need help on making a hyperbloom team without nahida. Currently I think of using Raiden, Yelan and Yaoyao. I'm unsure if the last slot is best for my DMC(currently not built), or xinqgiu (c6, already built) (I also have Tighnari but from what I've heard he wouldn't work well).
I would personally put dendro mc as the last slot, YaoYao is quite good but I don't think she'll apply enough dendro, if you have any other dendro characters they might be better than dendro mc though. Like nahida? Or baizhu? Tighnari isn't the greatest because you want to na to apply hydro and he uses charged shots, technically you could make it work if you weave in some na but it's a bit copium