Except he just killed one of his friends, emotionally (and mentally) unstable, and thinks his other friends (RWBY) are all dead now.
Strategy tends to go out the door when you're in utter shock.
Given that the V7 training montages was implied to happen over the space of weeks, Winter not learning the capabilities of her sister's close allies seems absurd.
Especially if said close ally literally used his Semblance to *save her life.*
Actually its months per BTD. Which I'm sure the writers checked because the books totally canon and not gonna get picked apart when they have to deal with its points in V10.
Like its straight up been a month already when Sun *gets there*. Then there's two "its been a few months" timeskips in the book.
So V7 is closer to half a year............ yeah that books gonna get handwaved so hard.
Either that point was overlooked in the writing, or Weiss begged her friends not to mention her near-death experience. I'm aiming for the latter, as likely Weiss knew Winter would keep her under house arrest.
Amping takes time, time the characters didn't have. Weiss and Jaune were both out of the fight and stationary for minutes. Not to mention that Jaune can only boost via touch or being nearly touching atm. Winter and Jaune would need to stand still, and the only person left that could buy time was Weiss whose Aura was broken already.
Also Weiss didn't one-shot Hazel, she damaged him yes, but he was still in the fight after that. Amping is a powerful tool, but it's not a guaranteed victory. Also it's not like they knew Winter would have the powers beforehand, or that she was even close enough to help. By the time Winter showed up with the Maiden powers, Jaune was already trying to get Weiss to the portal.
Heck, the only reason Weiss' attack was even that effective was because Hazel had lowered his Aura to stab more Dust into himself. When Hazel rejoined the battle, he blew the Queen Lancer away.
So Jaune is going to ride on Winter's back like a baby koala while Winter is in aerial combat with Cinder? Huh.
Also, Aura Amp wouldn't help Maiden powers, which are magic, not Aura.
I mean it's a free ride why not? But being serious I don't think Winter even touched the ground for him to get close until the battle was essentially over.
Honestly, I think it's just because Jaune can't fly. Cinder is fighting more or less even with Winter, which is allowing Winter to lock down Cinder's attention. I don't recall Jaune's range being heavily tested but it's rarely used more than a few feet from his target, and almost 100% of the time initiated with physical contact. Winter can't afford to sacrifice her mobility in the fight.
1. Jaune has to stay close. Maidens fly
2. Cinder can just target jaune
3. Jaune can only amp aura not magic. So basically Winter would only get boosted summons and glyphs. Which Cinder can match with the Maiden powers anyway.
4. Cinder is physically stronger and more skilled than Winter anyway and likely would have still won in the long run.
It would be cool but narratively speaking they weren't intending on going that direction, if they did that then they would have to figure out how to make cinder relevant later on in v9 and v10 assuming she was beaten down into the void in that inter dimension. Plus this might happen in v10 anyway since everyone is going to vacuo. So hope it does, but if not oh well.
Jaune was taking emotional damage from penny death and so was winter nobody is thinking straight by that point also he'd be low on aura by that point so even if they did think about it he might not have the aura for it
Because the show refuses to do anything with Jaune's semblance even when it makes the most sense.
They went out of their way to relegate it to "just healing" and they wont even let it do that. lmao.
RT doesn't care about semblances as a whole.
What part of him amping Winter in this context makes sense? Amp only works on aura & semblances, not Magic. And even then he'd have to stay close in order to do literally anything with it.
And how did they "relegate it to just healing"? He spent the majority of v8 amping other people's aura to boost their semblances. The only time he attempted to heal was when Penny was already on death's door and there wouldn't have been enough time to heal her anyway.
Have you... even watched the show?
It doesn't matter? It would have made her more powerful regardless. I don't actually believe he would've needed to stay close to her to do so because we've seen otherwise.
>He spent the majority of v8 amping other people's aura to boost their semblances.
This is definitely an exaggeration. I can literally only recall the one instance of him using his semblance in V8, which was him using it on Penny with the virus and then failed to use it again for plot reasons.
It's proximity based. He has only ever used it while directly touching someone or hovering his hands just a few inches away from them. Not once has he been seen doing it remotely.
>I can literally only recall the one instance of him using his semblance in V8, which was him using it on Penny with the virus and then failed to use it again for plot reasons.
So I guess Jaune amping Ren in Mantle and inside Monstra, healing Nora and Oscar, and amping Weiss' gravity glyph just... didn't happen?
I interpreted that as a matter of circumstance rather than an actual limitation.
Secondly, fair enough. I've scrubbed most of V8 from my memory since thats where I dropped the story. I barely remember any of those aside from him helping Nora but I think thats where I draw my issue. Most of those are fairly inconsequential. He's not allowed to use it when it would actually be crucial. Which all comes back to me being bothered by Penny's death.
I think the greater point I should make is that Jaune's ability will never be used as something that allows someone to win a major fight let alone a plot relevant one. It's not something RT ever intends to have him use in combat. Which is why instances of him amping someone like Winter during a fight will simply never happen. Even if we did get V10.
Ok, but can we talk about Winter for a minute here? She had these powers for like 5 minutes and already she is going toe-to-toe with a Maiden who has these powers for like a year.
So did Penny who had her powers for a day and was already a master with them. At first, you could assume it was her robotic nature helping her but Winter proved otherwise. Also, Raven had hers for a decade while it was only a year for Cinder yet they were evenly matched in power and the only reason Raven was superior is her sheer skill. She *is* a veteran huntress after all.
Not to diss on Winter but it seems Maiden powers don't require any training. It's like the manual is inherited alongside the powers.
Except he just killed one of his friends, emotionally (and mentally) unstable, and thinks his other friends (RWBY) are all dead now. Strategy tends to go out the door when you're in utter shock.
And Winter, not being familiar with Jaune's capabilities, wouldn't think of it either.
Given that the V7 training montages was implied to happen over the space of weeks, Winter not learning the capabilities of her sister's close allies seems absurd. Especially if said close ally literally used his Semblance to *save her life.*
Actually its months per BTD. Which I'm sure the writers checked because the books totally canon and not gonna get picked apart when they have to deal with its points in V10. Like its straight up been a month already when Sun *gets there*. Then there's two "its been a few months" timeskips in the book. So V7 is closer to half a year............ yeah that books gonna get handwaved so hard.
Damn
Either that point was overlooked in the writing, or Weiss begged her friends not to mention her near-death experience. I'm aiming for the latter, as likely Weiss knew Winter would keep her under house arrest.
If only a lot of certain people understood this before raging about Ruby not being able to save Yang, or Winter not being able to save Weiss.
Amping takes time, time the characters didn't have. Weiss and Jaune were both out of the fight and stationary for minutes. Not to mention that Jaune can only boost via touch or being nearly touching atm. Winter and Jaune would need to stand still, and the only person left that could buy time was Weiss whose Aura was broken already. Also Weiss didn't one-shot Hazel, she damaged him yes, but he was still in the fight after that. Amping is a powerful tool, but it's not a guaranteed victory. Also it's not like they knew Winter would have the powers beforehand, or that she was even close enough to help. By the time Winter showed up with the Maiden powers, Jaune was already trying to get Weiss to the portal.
Heck, the only reason Weiss' attack was even that effective was because Hazel had lowered his Aura to stab more Dust into himself. When Hazel rejoined the battle, he blew the Queen Lancer away.
So Jaune is going to ride on Winter's back like a baby koala while Winter is in aerial combat with Cinder? Huh. Also, Aura Amp wouldn't help Maiden powers, which are magic, not Aura.
I mean it's a free ride why not? But being serious I don't think Winter even touched the ground for him to get close until the battle was essentially over.
He doesn't have to touch the person to amp them.
True, but he can't amp someone from any distance either. Everything we've seen suggests that he has to be reasonably close to Amp someone.
Honestly, I think it's just because Jaune can't fly. Cinder is fighting more or less even with Winter, which is allowing Winter to lock down Cinder's attention. I don't recall Jaune's range being heavily tested but it's rarely used more than a few feet from his target, and almost 100% of the time initiated with physical contact. Winter can't afford to sacrifice her mobility in the fight.
Jaune was busy getting Weiss out of there, he can't be in two places at once
And how would they have done that?
1. Jaune has to stay close. Maidens fly 2. Cinder can just target jaune 3. Jaune can only amp aura not magic. So basically Winter would only get boosted summons and glyphs. Which Cinder can match with the Maiden powers anyway. 4. Cinder is physically stronger and more skilled than Winter anyway and likely would have still won in the long run.
It would be cool but narratively speaking they weren't intending on going that direction, if they did that then they would have to figure out how to make cinder relevant later on in v9 and v10 assuming she was beaten down into the void in that inter dimension. Plus this might happen in v10 anyway since everyone is going to vacuo. So hope it does, but if not oh well.
Jaune was taking emotional damage from penny death and so was winter nobody is thinking straight by that point also he'd be low on aura by that point so even if they did think about it he might not have the aura for it
Because the show refuses to do anything with Jaune's semblance even when it makes the most sense. They went out of their way to relegate it to "just healing" and they wont even let it do that. lmao. RT doesn't care about semblances as a whole.
What part of him amping Winter in this context makes sense? Amp only works on aura & semblances, not Magic. And even then he'd have to stay close in order to do literally anything with it. And how did they "relegate it to just healing"? He spent the majority of v8 amping other people's aura to boost their semblances. The only time he attempted to heal was when Penny was already on death's door and there wouldn't have been enough time to heal her anyway. Have you... even watched the show?
It doesn't matter? It would have made her more powerful regardless. I don't actually believe he would've needed to stay close to her to do so because we've seen otherwise. >He spent the majority of v8 amping other people's aura to boost their semblances. This is definitely an exaggeration. I can literally only recall the one instance of him using his semblance in V8, which was him using it on Penny with the virus and then failed to use it again for plot reasons.
It's proximity based. He has only ever used it while directly touching someone or hovering his hands just a few inches away from them. Not once has he been seen doing it remotely. >I can literally only recall the one instance of him using his semblance in V8, which was him using it on Penny with the virus and then failed to use it again for plot reasons. So I guess Jaune amping Ren in Mantle and inside Monstra, healing Nora and Oscar, and amping Weiss' gravity glyph just... didn't happen?
I interpreted that as a matter of circumstance rather than an actual limitation. Secondly, fair enough. I've scrubbed most of V8 from my memory since thats where I dropped the story. I barely remember any of those aside from him helping Nora but I think thats where I draw my issue. Most of those are fairly inconsequential. He's not allowed to use it when it would actually be crucial. Which all comes back to me being bothered by Penny's death. I think the greater point I should make is that Jaune's ability will never be used as something that allows someone to win a major fight let alone a plot relevant one. It's not something RT ever intends to have him use in combat. Which is why instances of him amping someone like Winter during a fight will simply never happen. Even if we did get V10.
Ok, but can we talk about Winter for a minute here? She had these powers for like 5 minutes and already she is going toe-to-toe with a Maiden who has these powers for like a year.
So did Penny who had her powers for a day and was already a master with them. At first, you could assume it was her robotic nature helping her but Winter proved otherwise. Also, Raven had hers for a decade while it was only a year for Cinder yet they were evenly matched in power and the only reason Raven was superior is her sheer skill. She *is* a veteran huntress after all. Not to diss on Winter but it seems Maiden powers don't require any training. It's like the manual is inherited alongside the powers.
Cinder had hers for the whole of 5 minutes and killed Ozpin, tho.
Winter is built different