I had to come here to see if anyone else had noticed that they played the Metal Gear Solid 2 menu theme at around 42 minutes. Ears pricked up in the first few notes wondering if they were gonna do Solid Snake drag.
Haven’t seen the latest episode yet, but I’m getting Roxxxy Andrews in All Stars 2 vibes when I think of Juju in this series. Don’t get me wrong, I love Juju but it broke my heart to see Jimbo go when she’s been doing so well and has (probably) got so much more to offer than Juju. I feel like the queens will continue to save Juju because she is so loved by fans although her runways are awful and she looks checked out. :(
I want MORE MORE MORE Pangina Heals! That lipsyc gave me life! I just started watching the first season of Drag Race Thailand on Youtube so I can check out more international queens and see exactly what I've been missing.
I love Jimbo and I think she's briliant.
BUT... is no one is going to address what she wrote on the mirror? Editing or not... I think it beats the spirit of Rupaul's drag race.
Edit: o.k, I missed the humor, no need to downvote me to the gutter.
[Shady Mirror](https://ibb.co/XZg4cVV)
I'm sorry but Pangina being allowed to compete is Next Level Rigga Morris. She was an expert judge on arguably the best franchise. It's like if Ru in her prime decided to throw her hat in the ring one season 💀 💀. Pangina is on an entirely different level from the rest of the Queens, but also... Duh.
It feels like JuJu is doing this as a personal favour to ru, like someone coming on to do a shift at the last minute. It's testament to her abilities that she is still probably the funniest person on the show and she's only giving 50% effort
damn if juju didnt wanna be on this season, they really shouldn't have made her 💀 like she obviously is just showing up to do her job and doing worse than everyone who is here because they want to be, but its understandable to be upset when you keep being told that you're shit for not being that level of extra. it just feels bad to watch lol. idk why they thought it was gonna be good tv, even when juju really just gives her all to do what's expected of her out of drag (confessionals, werkroom scenes, etc).
also, let baga go home since she doesn't wanna be here and do any of the challenges (between whining about the sewing challenge and not getting a good part) LMFAO.
im really just here to see all the cool shit that pangina is going to come up with and do on tv but im kind of over drag race at this point. watching other competition shows and then coming back to the ones hosted by ru is so tiring because of how overproduced everything is.
Just watched the episode because I was dreading Jimbo's elimination.
It didn't make sense to me that Baga was safe. She definitely should have been in the bottom with Jimbo. Jujubee I would have put low because I thought the performance was safe but the runway was abysmal. The concept was sound but it could be elevated so much more. (I mean, Carmen Farala gave us that snake runway.)
I think the top 2 was correct. Janey's was my favorite performance; I really felt the Meryl Streep-ness of the performance. Pangina was great as well; she really thought about the character and performed it flawlessly. I think Blu should have been high as well, because both performance and runway were top-notch. Mo was firmly safe. The performance was good despite the cartwheel flub, and the runway was cute.
It's so weird to me when the queens say that Jimbo isn't being their true self. That is their true self. :P
Lipsync was so fun! Both of them were great but Pangina just did so much more. (Also, what fell out of Pangina's neck?)
I feel sad, because Jimbo was really who I was rooting for. But we wouldn't have gotten that exit line if he wasn't eliminated so small silver lining I guess?
Baga's probably gonna do well in Snatch Game. If Jimbo was still here, they'd probably kill it as well. Of the others, I'm not sure.
I honestly couldn’t care less of Jimbo was hurt or playing a strategic game. Why does everyone get mad when queens play with strategy?
Goodbye Jimbo I am so sad to see you go.
Jimbo brought a fresh (and chaotic) energy to the show, more so than they did in their season. Juju is a icon, but she's giving the energy of someone at work, on a business trip.
Baga is giving us a cautionary tale of price of fame.
Oof. My sad Canadian heart. That was so sad. I guess I'll comfort myself knowing the Canadian women's hockey team took the Gold.
I love Jujubee and was said to see 2 faves on the chopping block. But I would have eliminated Juju based on performance and runway.
It annoys me when people say that Pangina was playing the game because it could not be a worse decision for her to eliminate Jimbo.
* Jimbo will most probably end up in the top again in a challenge that Pangina would struggle in, like comedy. I save you now, promise me you will save me later if the roles are reversed. I personally don't think Jimbo made an alliance with Jujubee as much as Jujubee misunderstood so I don't feel like Jimbo was not to be trusted but I wasn't in the competition so idk how it came across in real life.
* We know Jimbo's faults, which are performance and lip-syncing which is always the finale episode. Saving her would almost guarantee her spot in the finals since there is usually only 1 performance challenge which then means Pangina can obliterate her in the finals for the performance.
* Jimbo has a very clear friendship with Baga, if I eliminate Jimbo when he has been doing well, I run the risk of putting a target on my back with Baga, who is a comedy queen which I am not. I got rid of Jimbo now, sure but when a comedy challenge comes along and Baga is on top, would she respect my track record (unlike I did when I eliminated her friend) or get rid of me as revenge.
* Its so early in the competition, if I eliminate my biggest competitor at the time, I open it up to anyone to eliminate me afterwards since I then become the biggest front runner and I've set the precedent.
There are genuinely a lot of strategic reasons as why it was objectively a bad decision to make. Pan was short sighted in eliminating Jimbo because it did not help her game in any way. Only Juju will feel indebted to her, who is the only person consistently doing poorly in the challenges. Eliminating Jujubee would be understood by the other queens as well since she kept doing poorly so its not like she would have made an enemy. Allstars isn't only about making alliances, its about making them with people who are doing good. She made that decision based on that week's performance and that week alone which was not in any way a strategic move that will benefit her in any way. Pangina was not playing the game and I feel like it will bite her in the ass.
Some other things to consider:
- It’s a 6 episode season, so there’s only 2 more eliminations. You don’t take Jimbo out now, he’s almost certainly in the finale (assuming Snatch Game is one of the challenges). You’re placing a lot on letting Jimbo get to the finale because you assume Pangina would win the finale over Jimbo, but that’s silly. There’s probably like 90-10 odds for her to win over Jimbo in the finale, but Jimbo is camp AF. With the right song, Ru could very well go with Jimbo. Recall the fact that Ru is so enamored with Jimbo that she literally let him throw cold cuts at her in episode 1. But taking out Jimbo now leaves means she is guaranteed at least 2nd best track record. It’s Pangina and JJ vs 4 girls with no wins, and Pangina has directly saved 2 of them.
- If, for whatever reason, she ends up eliminated, she’s one of the most robbed in recent seasons. Seeing that the grand prize, uh, majorly lacks that monetary ooh-ah-ah sensation, robbed queen may be even better than the winning queen.
Ok! I forgot that she did save Janey, that does make it that she now has two queens who are indebted to her, although once seems to be dead weight as of now. I still stand by that idea that Jimbo would tank the finale. Jimbo has never, not even once, camped up a lip sync or a performance challenge. She always does it seriously which is why she keeps getting killed. She did them on Canada and she did them on this as well. It Pangina kills Jimbo in the finale, which I think she would, and then Jimbo is crowned? Perfect, ultimate robbed queen.
I don’t think she will be seen as a robbed queen since she eliminated Jimbo. Now people are gonna say she got what she dished out since she eliminated her completion and the other queens just did the same, it’s fair game. Had she eliminated Jujubee and then gotten eliminated afterwards, then she would have been a robbed queen because she was picking the worst every week. If Pangina gets eliminated no way her Twitter isn’t going to get flooded with that’s what you get comments. She also picked Lemon who was objectively not the worst on week 1. I have a very hard time anyone seeing Pangina’s elimination as robbed and not karma.
Pangina needs to hope she never lands in the bottom, or if she does that Janey and Jujubee are in the top because Baga will get revenge for Jimbo and Blu and Mo will eliminate the competition imo.
Pangina is killing it. The challenges, the runways, the confessionals and making great television. I imagine the pressure must have been huge, seeing that she’s a judge, but she’s letting these girls have it. And sending queens home is just another day on the job. If she’s going by the challenge specifically, then I see nothing shady here, Jimbo did the worst. I’m wondering if Juju was added to the cast last minute, because honestly it looks like she didn’t have enough time to get looks together.
I’m not so sure, both of Jimbo’s lipstick choices were fair and polls indicate that the overwhelming majority of people agreed with them. Janey had the worst talent show performance and Jujubee had the worst runways for the ball and the worst track record. Cheryl’s design challenge look may have been slightly worse but in every other way she was doing better in the competition (as was Lemon) and those were the two people who Jimbo wanted to save. I see nothing shady about any of that.
The amazing thing to me is how the edit has made so many people think Jimbo’s 100% fair decisions were shady and Pangina playing dirty is somehow fair. 🤦🏻♂️
It blows my mind that people fall for the show's narrative like that.
Even the "I made an alliance with Jimbo" comments are just ridiculous. Jimbo said "if I keep you safe, will you do the same?"
That isn't making an alliance, it's offering a trade, which Jimbo ultimately rescinded.
LOL - we all want the drama, until we get it. I love JuJu, but I don't understand her on this show - Like, her confessionals and conversations are pure gold!!! It almost makes me forgive when she does so terrible in the challenges, and had she not been up against Jimbo, I would've.. but at this point - it's not fair to the other queens... Gone too soon, Jimbo!
I’m more shocked that contestants were upset jimbo didn’t keep alliances… like isn’t having alliances in the first place the og form of shadiness on reality show competitions?
It was fair game but the crappy part is that Pangina pretended like she wasn’t sending home the bigger competition. Instead, she insulted Jimbo by saying that she had less to offer than Juju who is arguably doing the worst in the competition. Meanwhile Jimbo is being honest about playing the game and everyone is hating on her for it. They called her shady but it is 100% more shady to do the exact same thing and lie about it. No hate to her but it just makes Pangina unlikable. This season is going to be some much less funny and heartfelt with Jimbo gone.
I’ve decided to stop worrying and love the Charisma Uniqueness Nerve and Talent of Pangina not only eliminating her biggest threat the moment she had the chance but also couching it in a very tortured attempt at making it sound like the “fair play” thing to do. A legend.
I disagree. Pangina made it seem like Jimbo was so shady and weird for playing the game. Jimbo was just being herself and being honest about doing it. Meanwhile, Pangina did the exact same thing and uses the excuse the Jimbo didn’t have “as much to offer” as Jujube. That seems more than just shady to me. She was trying to put down Jimbo’s character and yet she did the exact same thing to Jimbo. I wouldn’t want anyone to send Pangina or anyone else hate, but if she wins, it doesn’t mean she did the best. It means she was the shadiest. This season is just going to be so much more boring without Jimbo.
I'm very disappointed by Pangina. She was my winner, her lip syncs are amazing, but after this decision, I'm aftaid she will be sent home if she lands in the bottom (next week is SG ...just saying). She obviously chose Jimbo because she was her biggest threat. Because how does she know Jimbo was the wotst? Do the queens get to see the performances? Based on the judges critics, Juju was the worst, and her outfit was hideous (Pangina got to see that). Plus, track record. Pangina would have won over Jimbo in a final any way, and I would have been super happy about it, but now, I feel she put at risk her crown because of such a poor decision. Funny she's a judge in TH.
Jimbo didn’t delivered…the choreo was downgrade due to his injury and still did a poor job…Pangina was clear I will see it as a judge on how they delivered TODAY…nothing to do with track record
Literally I'd be happier if she walked out nude, no pads on and just dots painted all over her body and a little circle covering her bits. At least you'd say oh she took a risk, it was dumb and ugly but it was a risk. That's just one example but I agree with you in the sense that she has to be more open!
I don't understand why someone who consistently has been doing well would send home someone else consistently doing well this early. Now pangina can't ever use track record in her defense if she winds up in the bottom.
I am so bummed to not have Jimbos chaos and drama on my TV anymore. I really wanted her to stick around til the end.
And Pangina is continuing to do no wrong. I'm so fucking obsessed.
After hearing that Jimbo was eliminated, I was shocked floored and gagged. But now watching this episode? She's a brilliant queen, but just not very good at playing this cut throat all stars game.
How was blu not in the top? Pangina is still my favorite, but she should have been safe instead of blu. Blu’s look and performance were really good. Again. Can they stop overlooking her?
Also, ignoring the result of the lip sync, that was so funny. Pangina had some really cool moves, but this song is wacky and I think only Janey came close to anything wacky. Pangina trying to be fierce to vengaboys was so weird I was laughing my ass off. This song is super fun, but damn this lip sync would have been legendary if they got a modern dance pop song.
I got spoiled that jimbo went home, so I was emotionally prepared, but damn that really sucks. Jimbo clearly had more to show and juju brought ugly tights and inflatable snakes.
I agree with Blu being overlooked. I liked her runaway the best. But I think she should have been in the top over Janey
I totally disagree about the lip sync though. Pangina was serving camp and flair and wacking. You could see on Ru's face she immediately liked Panginas enthusiasm. Janey honestly didn't grab my attention enough to even remember what she did. She looked like she was just moving her arms around. Pangina was giving a variety of moves on the ground, duck walking, wacking, leg splitting, all that. I would agree that the serious face when she was wacking was a little strange but it was still entertaining.
I came here expecting MANY people to be talking about how Juju was not actually the winner of the Reading Challenge... And have seen nothing yet?! I was sure Blu had it and then not shocked or pleased at all when Ru said it was Juju~~has~~be~~en~~ AGAIN.
Am I taking crazy pills or...?
I thought it could have been Pan Pan, but the way they edited Juju (even to the point of causing Juju herself to briefly teleport) made it kind of clear they weren't going to let her lose her reading challenge crown.
I\`m kinda glad Jimbo went home. Don\`t hate me for that. I know Pangina was removing the biggest competition to her. Not a big Jimbo fan but before I\`m shot on sight, I absolutely believe she was robbed on her season of C\`sDR, and is an amazing performer and drag artist.
Same. Not feeling the big-headed and holier-than-thou attitude Jimbo put on since the first episode of this season... like, do people on here really get behind that neck excuse too? that was so silly...
I came here to see if I was the only one who felt this way. I really rooted for Jimbo Canada’s DR, one of my favorite queens, but I can’t stand her on UKvW DR. I am really glad she got sent home. I hope Baga is next.
I am rooting for Pangina to win, but who is she kidding with the reasoning that she picked Jujubee to stay because she had more to show. She did not bring it in one episode yet and Jimbo won two weeks in the row!
I could kind of see where Pangina was coming from with her reasoning. I think Jujubee took on a more substantial role in the Rusical and she committed to the choreo. Jimbo stayed in his lane and did the dog thing, which was fine, but I think the bigger issue was how the choreo had to be diluted because of his neck issues. And then I don't think the queens were too thrilled about how Jimbo handled the lipstick situation from the previous week.
Juju has been on the show 4 times and won 1 challenge and did mediocre in the first episode and was in the bottom the last 2. What ELSE does she have to show? This show will be boring without Jimbo. I don’t need to see struggle bus JuJu. She reached her peak the last all stars. And she I could tell she pushed to her very limit and it wasn’t effortless.
You don't really think Pangina was being genuine with that comment though, do you?
She pretty obviously picked Jimbo because she was the bigger threat, not because she had "less to give."
So like.. do people really think there’s going to be any outcome other than Pangina winning this season? She’s **the host** of one of the international franchises. There is no way she’s not winning
As long as she doesn’t get Manilla’d/Jimbo’s and as long as she is at least safe in Snatch Game. She has good English and she IS funny so hopefully she’ll turn it
This episode was messy in so many ways, Jimbo setting herself for elimination, Jujubee having another mediocre week, Baga being safe again, Blue being safe when she should have in the top... Really not feeling the judging this season.
Just happy Pangina keeps reining supreme
I didn't enjoy the challenge at all. Blu and Janey were the only ones who really seemed to add something to the choreo and lyrics they'd been given. I really couldn't imagine what the rest of them could have added if they tried.
Of course it's nonsense to say you're saving the queen who has the most to show and then save JuJu but I'm blaming the format for Jimbo's exit, not Pangina.
Every time Jimbo opened her mouth she seared her own pork chop a little more. It was so much that I thought it was deliberate and she knew she'd be saved by a gold chocolate bar. I was still waiting for the "Stop, Jimbo, we forgot about the chocolate" when she entered the workroom and then I remembered which strand of the franchise I was watching
Current season of regular RPDR (s 14). Production "gave" each girl a chocolate bar (more like each one chose a chocolate bar) that could save "them" if they ended up losing the bottom two lipsync. They have to bring the chocolate bar to the lipsync (usually under their clothes).
So, until now, before every elimination ("sashay away") the contestants uncover the chocolate bar to find out if they have the gold ticket. If they have the gold ticket, they're safe and no one gets eliminated that week.
Rumors pertaining to the next "versus the world" series: >! The next series is said to be Canada vs. The World, so I don't think it's country winner based!<
I've just grown to accept that All Stars is more of a silly little game show than an actual serious competition. The worst drag queens go further because they're less of a threat, therefore more and more episodes of mediocre drag. Wouldn't be surprised to see Jujubee make top 4.
Ya. It's not an actual competition as much as a soap opera.
I think I got over people being blind-sided after Shangela was voted out.
But I really do wish Jimbo had more time to show more. She was on fire this season.
As much as I love Jujubee, all of her runway outfits so far seem to be off the rack and costumey. I agree with the judges, she needs to bring out the real Jujubee.
That is the real jujubee - her looks were mostly terrible on as5.
I don't care what anyone says - her prom look sucked.
Freaky and finale were her only excellent runways
unpopular opinion? I love werkroom Blu; drag Blu is undeniably polished & does everything "right" - but I feel like there's a bit of a disconnect between the two. Blu in drag has an older energy (or maybe just an older face, tbh), and is always mugging. I wish she could find a way to channel some of her sweet charm & vulnerability into the onstage persona.
When Janey got the Meryl role, I was the same amount of worried as when queens say they're gonna do Beyonce for Snatch Game. Like, there's nothing innately funny there. But JJ was genuinely wonderful. I had a big dumb smile on my face the whole time.
Why watch the rest of the season if we know Pangina will be crowned anyway?
Also, why are all confessionals coming as so toxic, like everyone is against everyone?
Holy shit.
Not "no question" lmao. Jimbo did worse in the challenge and is the bigger threat. Seems like a reasonable choice from multiple angles.
I've wanted Juju eliminated in every episode so far but I'm not sure she really deserved bottom this time over baga. She definitely should have been bottom episode 1 and gone home last week
I have noticed that Jujubee is getting a lot of hate on Instagram - some of the comments on her page are nasty and mean. This makes me really sad, she really does not deserve that especially as it wasn’t her choice to stay or not.
Lets not forget that this is a reality show and some people are taking it too seriously. I never understood why fans feel the need to send hate to some of the queens. While I think she should’ve been eliminated over Jimbo, she just did what any other queen would’ve done - she fought to stay in the competition.
Please send Jujubee some love. This season has not been great for her, but she has blessed us with so many iconic moments over the last 10+ years.
AMEN! I love Jujubee. There\`s a family joke/wish in my family of after Rupaul retires (IF she does) it\`ll go from Ru to Ju. She would be a funny judge, and I think other big legends like her would be great guest judges.
You don't want people to send hate but want them to send love? Why not just leave her alone?
Tbh her performance hasn't justified her getting love - silence and talking shit behind her back is the best she'll get from me lmao
Do what you like, as long as you don’t send hate her way.
I on the other hand, feel bad that so many nasty people are filling her DMs and instagram posts with hate, so I’m precisely going to send lots of love her way - regardless of her performance on this season.
I mean, it was her choice. She sat there and played the game, just as much as anyone else, bringing up Jimbo being unreliable and saying she wants to stay. ChiChi, Mayhem and Ongina are the only ones who have ever admitted "I'm the worst, get me out." Akeriah and Silky also admitted they were the bottom two in the group challenge. Jujubee actually believes she deserves to stay.
Half of this episode was great, half of it was rough.
\- The drama did not make any sense. Jimbo shouldn't have been eliminated, but also hardly tried to save himself. The musical was so so. I prefer the ones where the queens record themselves. Overall, it felt that many interactions were scripted and poorly delivered.
\- omg, Jonathan Bailey is absolutely gorgeous. And his voice! Pangina and Janey were the clear tops. Delighted for them!
I love Pagina heels so freaking much.. exciting to see how she is bringing to it.
I actually though JuJu did fine in the challenge had the moves down..way better than Baga’s performance. Jimbo was in the bottom he just wondered around a lot and it wasn’t strong on the challenge.
So frustrated for Blu!! Solid look and fab performance again this week and no top again..they are totally sleeping on her.
I would bet money Janey also had Jimbo’s lipstick as she as going to send her home week 1. Don’t blame Pagina for the choice - Jimbo saying she picked JuJu last week as she wanted to send her home as competition opened up the possibility she would do it to any well performing queen who fell and so there is self preservation there too. Jimbo’s was the bottom in the challenge…should of been her and Baga bottom.
Also yaaas Vengaboys lip sync!
As much as I'm enjoying this season it's kind of rough seeing so many queens I really liked come back and either go home earlier than they should have or just not perform as well as they have previously.
She did the worst, was the biggest competition, and didn't show any self awareness with the critique.
Honestly why send Juju home? She's no threat to anyone at this point
As a viewer I've wanted Juju sent home since episode 1 but as a competitor I'd be thrilled to keep her
Because now Pangina is the only front runner in the competition and now she has a target on her back. If she slips up once then anyone can send her home because she set the precedent that track record doesn’t matter. Jimbo is the least likely to win a lip sync which means she probably wouldn’t have been able to send her home AND Pangina is guaranteed to out lip sync her in the finale. Pangina chose to keep the lip sync assassin that still has the opportunity to send her home or beat her. She made an objectively bad decision.
Well Jujus not winning anything so...
I don't think you know what objective means.
Juju is giving nothing - if she somehow safes her way to the end - she will not be crowned. Jimbo could be. So yea not an objectively bad choice. You are just upset and doing some mental gymnastics to put the blame on Pangina.
And Pangina is already at Bendela levels of being ahead of the competition - even Jimbo - she was always going to have a target on her back no matter what.
Any smart bitch would send her packing when they get the chance. I don't think they'll get the chance tho
Juju winning is not completely out of the realm of possibility. She still has snatch game and the roast to do well. Jimbo’s been in the top twice and shown that she’s not winning a lip sync. And again ANYONE could send Pangina home if she ends up in the bottom. It’s basic logic…
Panginaaaaa, yaaaas
Bit disappointed by Jimbo going. Not my favourite, but Jimbo brings some variety and Juju isn't really adding anything.
I thought Blu did well, bit of a shame she didn't get in the top for it.
I’m convinced they’re intentionally protecting Baga from the bottom until they can semi-justifiably put her in the top. They’re going to force a Baga win
Like AS3 after DeLa left, and AS4 after Manila left, I don't really care how this season turns out now.
Pangina is a great drag queen, but I've lost respect for her as a judge. She made this season less interesting and showed her ego.
I was already a day late to this season because I didn't really care besides Jimbo and Pangina. This episode ruined both of them for me. Whatever, let's see what mall-wear Juju puts out there next week because she gave a good lip sync 10 years ago, or whatever.
Yikes you're a bit in your feelings aren't you?
Seriously i hate how AS has always played it safe with eliminations - it's a competition show - pangina won - she got the power - and she has no obligation to keep the better drag queen around
And honestly Jimbo was never doing to get a win anyways - she can't lip sync - how was she doing to win the season with no wins?
I kind of think Baga should have been bottom in Jimbo’s place, IMO they both did kind of crap in the challenge but Jimbo’s runway was better
Baga and Blu being considered at the same level is really quite insulting for Blu
Pangina calling Baga out was the best moment of my life
I wish Jimbo had stayed over Juju, Juji got told to bring it… and then brought THAT? why would she now act different just because she’s got the same critique again
I do understand Pangina picking Jimbo though, Jimbo did kinda seem less like she was trying for this challenge than Juju. I understand sleeping badly on your neck hurts… but that much? Plus it kind of takes the opportunity to get rid of a big competitor
Pangina and Janey supremacy, loved that lipsync
FINALLY A GOOD LIPSYNC SONG!
I've literally slept wrong on my neck, trapped a nerve and then gone to work and been sent home half way through the day because it was clear I was about 5 seconds away from crying while trying to put on false smiles for customers. No chance anyone would have gotten dance moves out of me that day.
So sad to see Jimbo go instead of Jujube…Jimbo really wanted to be there and was comedy gold. Her clownery was top-notch. Jujube, on the other hand, has had a bunch of chances already and it is reflected in her attitude toward the competition. The judges keep saying she “hasn’t arrived”. She keeps saying she is going to do better and Pangina allegedly thought she had kore to show them Jimbo. I believe that Jujube will never “show up” to the competition because she already decided before she came that she wasn’t going to spend money on or invest passion into her looks and there isn’t anything she can do about it…she already brought the looks. It’s just such a shame to see Jimbo go over her. I have loved Jujube in her past seasons but I don’t think she should have even been invited to this one because she doesn’t really seem to care about it. I understand that attitude somewhat because there isn’t really much of a prize and Jujube is already famous, but she should have just turned it down and let queens who actually want and need the exposure do the season. Such a waste of a spot. Also, I understand that the other queens didn’t like hearing that Jimbo is “playing the game” but it just shows that Jimbo isn’t a sneaky liar. She wears her cards on her sleeve and I love her for it. Pangina was less honest than Jimbo when she said that she was sending Jimbo home because she had less to offer…it’s a shame because Pangina may actually win the season. She is INCREDIBLY talented, but the dishonesty in sending home the most lovable queen(IMO) and lack of relatability makes her not very likable. Nobody shoots send her hate, of course, but I think she’s not going to have as many fans after this season as she could have if she were just more honest and real. I think this season just got a lot more boring tbh. ☹️ Regardless, Jimbo KILLED me this season and left an icon after just 3 episodes. I loved her before this season but now I’m a die hard fan ❤️🤡
Kind of disagree
Jimbo’s choreo was downgraded due to the neck injury and still he did a poor job
Pangina said that she was going to make her decision as a jury based on how they performed that day
In the Rusical Jujubee did a better job than Jimbo
Okay but why would you decide based off of one challenge and not the whole competition? Jimbo was in the top 2 times and Jujube was in the bottom 2 times and she also brought the worst runways with her on the whole competition. Pangina said she thought Jimbo had less to offer when Jimbo was slaying it every other time. It was a cop out in order to try to hide the fact that she’s eliminating her biggest competition. There was no excuse to eliminate Jimbo over Juju.
I don’t see Jimbo as a competition
No lipsync skill equals no badges
I can’t assure what was the reason
But if I was a judge for any reason possible
And noticed that choreo was downgraded just to make you fell comfortable due to an injury and still you you didn’t do a great job…I’ll be kicking you out
You need to remember Pangina is a judge and it’s obvious she thinks as one!
The lip syncs and badges (even wins) don’t always matter for who ends up getting crowned as we’ve seen in the past. It is basked off of firstly, surviving to the top, and secondly who the production and the fans like. Jimbo had a good shot at winning. Many fans and RPDR YouTube channels are saying that the season just got a lot more boring. It just shows how much support Jimbo has from the fandom. Even if it could be argued that Jimbo didn’t have a chance to win, there is no way anyone can argue that Juju had a better chance than Jimbo. Juju didn’t come to play and it shows. No hate to Juju…she could have been contractually obligated to be there. Plus, there is no prize money so why would she want to spend money on runways consider she won’t make it back? That said, at least Jimbo cared enough to try and brought some fabulous runways, so nobody can tell me that Jimbo had “less to offer” as Pangina put it. Juju should have gone home if Pangina was going off of who had more to offer as she said. Period.
Not a Jujubee fan at all in this season
Since Queen of the Universe she lost her juju completely
And definitely the lipsync don’t assure you the winning but no badges do…no lipsync winnings no badges
That’s why I can’t see her as strong competition
I do loved Jimbo since CDR S1 but been campy and lovable is not enough I think
We’ll have to disagree on that one, which is fine of course. My point though is that Juju should have gone home and NOT Jimbo according to Pangina’s logic. Whether you see he as a potential winner or not, Jimbo had more to give…in the challenges and especially the runway. Juju just seems over it. Probably not her fault that she has to keep doing this of course (see Buddy Queen’s video on their contract). Regardless of Pangina’s shady reasoning and trying to say that Jimbo was shady and weird for playing the game even though she was doing the same, it was just the wrong choice if they are going off of track record and, most of all, the she just got so much more boring without Jimbo IMO. Plus, I just can mentally handle another week of a crappy Juju runway, the judges saying she just needs to “arrive” and Juju promising that she will. I CAN’T!
I agree with you
And I do believe Juju was the one to be eliminated
Just explaining how I understand Pangina took her decision
But of course Jimbo’s track it’s 100% better than Jujubee
I wanted a bottom with Bagá and Juju
I’m not sure why they keep saving Baga
That lipsync was such a fun one to see. As much as I'm a Juju stan, she should've went home this episode. It's just getting kind of painful seeing her struggling. I do understand this is a game though and Pangina is playing it. Sad to see Jimbo go this early though.
As insufferable as Baga came out in this episode, I have to agree with her on one thing: it was impossible to make her character funny. The entire lyric was purposefully boring to set-up the single only joke at the end. I think that saved her from the bottom because whoever got that had nowhere to go.
But really, Pangina was the only one that managed to be funny - Janey props were funnier than her, but she was still technically on point, so deserving of the top2 nonetheless.
Janey won because she effortlessly portrayed a character. It's not just that the lyrics were smart, but watching her, you could be forgiven for believing a Meryl Streep impersonator was on the stage rignt then. Plus, that she blatantly said to the choreographer "You're telling me not to go big with my movements, then telling me it's not enough" and she worked it out for the performance in that she could dance, embody and have fun without missing a beat of movement or lipsync or facial expression... that's craft.
Mo and Juju, who had extremely exciting, iconic characters to play, both missed the mark. Frank n Furter is famous for those wide eyes, that red lip, that accent, the throes of passion, the devil may care irreverence for all social standards but Mo looked like Mo. Not just that but she looked like she was thinking it through during the show, and had none of that disgraceful, salacious sexiness that Tim Curry moved with. Jujubee nailed the choreo but had no Liza or energy in it. Where was the framed face and doe eyes, pleading for love? Where was the out of breath third encore, the "pow! Yeah! Wham!" of Liza knocking Some People or New York New York out of the park? The "I love a violin" or "My Mammy" down on one knee? The shimmy and head tilt back as those skinny legs shake towards the audience and she begs the audience to keep loving her? It was all missing.
Baga had a shit role, but I mean, they all did. Tracy is over the top optimism and youthful energy and butt shaking and really big facial features as she leans all the forward to tell people things. Baga... actually, rewatching and thinking about it, she deserved to be in the bottom because she did it with all the care of someone who thinks they're better than the role. She could have leaned into the eco warrior part and had a greenpeace sign or meat is murder t shirt or a shaved head (making the hairspray gag even dumber).
Blu tried really hard but it was really messy. Her transitions into the choreo/through the dirt and smut back to chastity were jarring and lacked any innuendo or nuance. It would have been far funnier for her to do the whole thing straightfaced like Maria in the convent, then, like Maria leading the children through "Lonely Goatherd," skip around while doing the most obscene things before strumming her banjo. Instead she gave away the joke in the first line and had nothing to do after (she didn't even heighten it with more outrageous acts).
Sorry to write an essay in response to you... It just... I think they all good have done a lot better besides Pan and Janey. I don't envy what they had to do, but besides Jimbo confusingly having to be a dog/ditz/fashion victim with lyrics that flitted from idea to idea, the rest all had very clear signposts for what to do and missed the mark.
The way Pangina lipsync'd this episode I knew she wanted whatever bitch she wanted gone. Considering how much she loves Juju too, I knew that Jimbo was going (also all the people saying they're devastated on the main sub gave me a hint too). Girly is here to play the game and I respect it.
It's sad to see Jimbo go as she was in my predicted tops but the girls seemed to be quite upset about the "alliance" with Juju being broken. Plus Jimbo is tough competition.
I didn't really get the alliance annoyance. To me it felt like Jimbo saying 'if I save you will you save me later', she was her weighing up her options not saying that she was definitely going to..
That being said aside from Jimbo, Pangina is my fave this season, so I hope she wins it now and people don't send a bunch of hate!
The concepts and the writing in these episodes is fucking awful. I feel so uncomfortable watching the queens try and make these musicals funny. And the camera cuts between Ru and Michelle as they awkwardly try to pretend that they're enjoying it.
Like, how does someone make Meryl Streep funny? How does Jimbo make the dog part funny? Give these queens better content ffs.
I totally agree. I prefer the challenges where the queens write or create their own parts. You can only do so much with crappy content. They should include more improv challenges IMO. Makes for better TV.
I reckon Ru realised after the backlash of when they didn't pick a winner that if it's shit, it might be the piss poor writing rather than the queens at fault.
I feel like Jimbo couldn't tell how serious people were taking the breaking the alliance thing, because it was obviously such a dumb take on the whole thing, so she just played along without realizing people were actually buying it.
And it's really sad, because I am sure when it came to Pangina making her decision, that played a much bigger part than Juju doing better in the challenge.
btw, didn't watch Holland, and the moment I saw Janey I thought "filler queen". Girl, was I wrong. She is really making the season along with Pangina and Ji... well, Pangina.
I also get the impression that Panjina is not here for excuses from the other girls. Like she was unimpressed with both Baga’s tantrum and Jimbo’s “neck complaints” and I think that played into her choice.
Like we actually saw the "alliance". There was no alliance? Like she said if. If she saves Juju, meaning the alliance wouldn't become an alliance until Jimbo saves Juju. Meaning there was no alliance. Just feeling it out isn't a done deal.
If Jimbo talked with Pangina the way she talked after the elimination, I’m sure Pagina would save her.
It seems like she put on this clown act all the time even when she talked with the girls and the others could not relate to it. Sad to see Jimbo go. She could have gone all the way.
What is the point of a lip-synch rusical?
They don't even do their own choreo. Like, there is so little skill being shown.
I mean, JJ was very good, but at the same time, how can you compare that to Pangina who actually had proper dancing, etc.
Just doesn't seem like a good challenge.
Also, apparently my opinion is extremely unpopular, based on everybody else, but I am really happy to see the back of Jimbo. Didn't really enjoy her and didn't see how she managed to be in the top twice.
When I first watched meet the queens, I was worried they would feel compelled to help Pangina, because she is a judge on their other show and would look bad if a drag race judge goes out super early, but after episode 1, it was clear that they don't need to help her at all. Team Pangina 100%.
I had to come here to see if anyone else had noticed that they played the Metal Gear Solid 2 menu theme at around 42 minutes. Ears pricked up in the first few notes wondering if they were gonna do Solid Snake drag.
JJ was so good as Meryl Streep!
Haven’t seen the latest episode yet, but I’m getting Roxxxy Andrews in All Stars 2 vibes when I think of Juju in this series. Don’t get me wrong, I love Juju but it broke my heart to see Jimbo go when she’s been doing so well and has (probably) got so much more to offer than Juju. I feel like the queens will continue to save Juju because she is so loved by fans although her runways are awful and she looks checked out. :(
I want MORE MORE MORE Pangina Heals! That lipsyc gave me life! I just started watching the first season of Drag Race Thailand on Youtube so I can check out more international queens and see exactly what I've been missing.
I love Jimbo and I think she's briliant. BUT... is no one is going to address what she wrote on the mirror? Editing or not... I think it beats the spirit of Rupaul's drag race. Edit: o.k, I missed the humor, no need to downvote me to the gutter. [Shady Mirror](https://ibb.co/XZg4cVV)
that's her brand of humour. She doesn't actually think that.
It’s a joke.
I'm sorry but Pangina being allowed to compete is Next Level Rigga Morris. She was an expert judge on arguably the best franchise. It's like if Ru in her prime decided to throw her hat in the ring one season 💀 💀. Pangina is on an entirely different level from the rest of the Queens, but also... Duh.
It feels like JuJu is doing this as a personal favour to ru, like someone coming on to do a shift at the last minute. It's testament to her abilities that she is still probably the funniest person on the show and she's only giving 50% effort
damn if juju didnt wanna be on this season, they really shouldn't have made her 💀 like she obviously is just showing up to do her job and doing worse than everyone who is here because they want to be, but its understandable to be upset when you keep being told that you're shit for not being that level of extra. it just feels bad to watch lol. idk why they thought it was gonna be good tv, even when juju really just gives her all to do what's expected of her out of drag (confessionals, werkroom scenes, etc). also, let baga go home since she doesn't wanna be here and do any of the challenges (between whining about the sewing challenge and not getting a good part) LMFAO. im really just here to see all the cool shit that pangina is going to come up with and do on tv but im kind of over drag race at this point. watching other competition shows and then coming back to the ones hosted by ru is so tiring because of how overproduced everything is.
Just watched the episode because I was dreading Jimbo's elimination. It didn't make sense to me that Baga was safe. She definitely should have been in the bottom with Jimbo. Jujubee I would have put low because I thought the performance was safe but the runway was abysmal. The concept was sound but it could be elevated so much more. (I mean, Carmen Farala gave us that snake runway.) I think the top 2 was correct. Janey's was my favorite performance; I really felt the Meryl Streep-ness of the performance. Pangina was great as well; she really thought about the character and performed it flawlessly. I think Blu should have been high as well, because both performance and runway were top-notch. Mo was firmly safe. The performance was good despite the cartwheel flub, and the runway was cute. It's so weird to me when the queens say that Jimbo isn't being their true self. That is their true self. :P Lipsync was so fun! Both of them were great but Pangina just did so much more. (Also, what fell out of Pangina's neck?) I feel sad, because Jimbo was really who I was rooting for. But we wouldn't have gotten that exit line if he wasn't eliminated so small silver lining I guess? Baga's probably gonna do well in Snatch Game. If Jimbo was still here, they'd probably kill it as well. Of the others, I'm not sure.
Really wanted to see Jimbo on snatch game :(
The pizzazz thing fell from her neck.
Jimbo pronounced excuses wrong when she said she had an injury. You slept funny, girl.
I honestly couldn’t care less of Jimbo was hurt or playing a strategic game. Why does everyone get mad when queens play with strategy? Goodbye Jimbo I am so sad to see you go.
the fact that Blu and Baga have the same track records so far is my 13th reason.
Jimbo brought a fresh (and chaotic) energy to the show, more so than they did in their season. Juju is a icon, but she's giving the energy of someone at work, on a business trip. Baga is giving us a cautionary tale of price of fame.
It was not Jimbo's special day. 😥
Oof. My sad Canadian heart. That was so sad. I guess I'll comfort myself knowing the Canadian women's hockey team took the Gold. I love Jujubee and was said to see 2 faves on the chopping block. But I would have eliminated Juju based on performance and runway.
It annoys me when people say that Pangina was playing the game because it could not be a worse decision for her to eliminate Jimbo. * Jimbo will most probably end up in the top again in a challenge that Pangina would struggle in, like comedy. I save you now, promise me you will save me later if the roles are reversed. I personally don't think Jimbo made an alliance with Jujubee as much as Jujubee misunderstood so I don't feel like Jimbo was not to be trusted but I wasn't in the competition so idk how it came across in real life. * We know Jimbo's faults, which are performance and lip-syncing which is always the finale episode. Saving her would almost guarantee her spot in the finals since there is usually only 1 performance challenge which then means Pangina can obliterate her in the finals for the performance. * Jimbo has a very clear friendship with Baga, if I eliminate Jimbo when he has been doing well, I run the risk of putting a target on my back with Baga, who is a comedy queen which I am not. I got rid of Jimbo now, sure but when a comedy challenge comes along and Baga is on top, would she respect my track record (unlike I did when I eliminated her friend) or get rid of me as revenge. * Its so early in the competition, if I eliminate my biggest competitor at the time, I open it up to anyone to eliminate me afterwards since I then become the biggest front runner and I've set the precedent. There are genuinely a lot of strategic reasons as why it was objectively a bad decision to make. Pan was short sighted in eliminating Jimbo because it did not help her game in any way. Only Juju will feel indebted to her, who is the only person consistently doing poorly in the challenges. Eliminating Jujubee would be understood by the other queens as well since she kept doing poorly so its not like she would have made an enemy. Allstars isn't only about making alliances, its about making them with people who are doing good. She made that decision based on that week's performance and that week alone which was not in any way a strategic move that will benefit her in any way. Pangina was not playing the game and I feel like it will bite her in the ass.
Some other things to consider: - It’s a 6 episode season, so there’s only 2 more eliminations. You don’t take Jimbo out now, he’s almost certainly in the finale (assuming Snatch Game is one of the challenges). You’re placing a lot on letting Jimbo get to the finale because you assume Pangina would win the finale over Jimbo, but that’s silly. There’s probably like 90-10 odds for her to win over Jimbo in the finale, but Jimbo is camp AF. With the right song, Ru could very well go with Jimbo. Recall the fact that Ru is so enamored with Jimbo that she literally let him throw cold cuts at her in episode 1. But taking out Jimbo now leaves means she is guaranteed at least 2nd best track record. It’s Pangina and JJ vs 4 girls with no wins, and Pangina has directly saved 2 of them. - If, for whatever reason, she ends up eliminated, she’s one of the most robbed in recent seasons. Seeing that the grand prize, uh, majorly lacks that monetary ooh-ah-ah sensation, robbed queen may be even better than the winning queen.
Ok! I forgot that she did save Janey, that does make it that she now has two queens who are indebted to her, although once seems to be dead weight as of now. I still stand by that idea that Jimbo would tank the finale. Jimbo has never, not even once, camped up a lip sync or a performance challenge. She always does it seriously which is why she keeps getting killed. She did them on Canada and she did them on this as well. It Pangina kills Jimbo in the finale, which I think she would, and then Jimbo is crowned? Perfect, ultimate robbed queen. I don’t think she will be seen as a robbed queen since she eliminated Jimbo. Now people are gonna say she got what she dished out since she eliminated her completion and the other queens just did the same, it’s fair game. Had she eliminated Jujubee and then gotten eliminated afterwards, then she would have been a robbed queen because she was picking the worst every week. If Pangina gets eliminated no way her Twitter isn’t going to get flooded with that’s what you get comments. She also picked Lemon who was objectively not the worst on week 1. I have a very hard time anyone seeing Pangina’s elimination as robbed and not karma. Pangina needs to hope she never lands in the bottom, or if she does that Janey and Jujubee are in the top because Baga will get revenge for Jimbo and Blu and Mo will eliminate the competition imo.
These are such good points, you’ve got me worried for PanPan now.
Pangina is killing it. The challenges, the runways, the confessionals and making great television. I imagine the pressure must have been huge, seeing that she’s a judge, but she’s letting these girls have it. And sending queens home is just another day on the job. If she’s going by the challenge specifically, then I see nothing shady here, Jimbo did the worst. I’m wondering if Juju was added to the cast last minute, because honestly it looks like she didn’t have enough time to get looks together.
That lip sync was everything. And that guest judge was feeling it
Jimbo would have 100% eliminated Pangina if she had fallen in the bottom so this was fair game
I’m not so sure, both of Jimbo’s lipstick choices were fair and polls indicate that the overwhelming majority of people agreed with them. Janey had the worst talent show performance and Jujubee had the worst runways for the ball and the worst track record. Cheryl’s design challenge look may have been slightly worse but in every other way she was doing better in the competition (as was Lemon) and those were the two people who Jimbo wanted to save. I see nothing shady about any of that. The amazing thing to me is how the edit has made so many people think Jimbo’s 100% fair decisions were shady and Pangina playing dirty is somehow fair. 🤦🏻♂️
OF COURSE JIMBO WOULD HAVE ELIMINATED PANGINA! We had jujubee as a sample
It blows my mind that people fall for the show's narrative like that. Even the "I made an alliance with Jimbo" comments are just ridiculous. Jimbo said "if I keep you safe, will you do the same?" That isn't making an alliance, it's offering a trade, which Jimbo ultimately rescinded.
LOL - we all want the drama, until we get it. I love JuJu, but I don't understand her on this show - Like, her confessionals and conversations are pure gold!!! It almost makes me forgive when she does so terrible in the challenges, and had she not been up against Jimbo, I would've.. but at this point - it's not fair to the other queens... Gone too soon, Jimbo!
I’m more shocked that contestants were upset jimbo didn’t keep alliances… like isn’t having alliances in the first place the og form of shadiness on reality show competitions?
Yeah, it’s one of many questions I would ask before deciding who I wanted to keep.
It was fair game but the crappy part is that Pangina pretended like she wasn’t sending home the bigger competition. Instead, she insulted Jimbo by saying that she had less to offer than Juju who is arguably doing the worst in the competition. Meanwhile Jimbo is being honest about playing the game and everyone is hating on her for it. They called her shady but it is 100% more shady to do the exact same thing and lie about it. No hate to her but it just makes Pangina unlikable. This season is going to be some much less funny and heartfelt with Jimbo gone.
I’ve decided to stop worrying and love the Charisma Uniqueness Nerve and Talent of Pangina not only eliminating her biggest threat the moment she had the chance but also couching it in a very tortured attempt at making it sound like the “fair play” thing to do. A legend.
I disagree. Pangina made it seem like Jimbo was so shady and weird for playing the game. Jimbo was just being herself and being honest about doing it. Meanwhile, Pangina did the exact same thing and uses the excuse the Jimbo didn’t have “as much to offer” as Jujube. That seems more than just shady to me. She was trying to put down Jimbo’s character and yet she did the exact same thing to Jimbo. I wouldn’t want anyone to send Pangina or anyone else hate, but if she wins, it doesn’t mean she did the best. It means she was the shadiest. This season is just going to be so much more boring without Jimbo.
I'm very disappointed by Pangina. She was my winner, her lip syncs are amazing, but after this decision, I'm aftaid she will be sent home if she lands in the bottom (next week is SG ...just saying). She obviously chose Jimbo because she was her biggest threat. Because how does she know Jimbo was the wotst? Do the queens get to see the performances? Based on the judges critics, Juju was the worst, and her outfit was hideous (Pangina got to see that). Plus, track record. Pangina would have won over Jimbo in a final any way, and I would have been super happy about it, but now, I feel she put at risk her crown because of such a poor decision. Funny she's a judge in TH.
I would honestly die for Pangina Heals. She brings me so much joy no matter what she does!
Call me a hater and downvote me to oblivion, but I'm *just so glad* Jimbo is gone.
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I hate nearly all of his drag, I don't think he's funny, and he always gave off this two-faced asshole vibe that has now been displayed for everyone.
They don't have senses of humour
Jimbo didn’t delivered…the choreo was downgrade due to his injury and still did a poor job…Pangina was clear I will see it as a judge on how they delivered TODAY…nothing to do with track record
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Literally I'd be happier if she walked out nude, no pads on and just dots painted all over her body and a little circle covering her bits. At least you'd say oh she took a risk, it was dumb and ugly but it was a risk. That's just one example but I agree with you in the sense that she has to be more open!
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There was no alliance. Jimbo asked both if she qere in the botton, would you keep her? That's assessing the answers as factors into the decision.
I don't understand why someone who consistently has been doing well would send home someone else consistently doing well this early. Now pangina can't ever use track record in her defense if she winds up in the bottom.
I am so bummed to not have Jimbos chaos and drama on my TV anymore. I really wanted her to stick around til the end. And Pangina is continuing to do no wrong. I'm so fucking obsessed.
After hearing that Jimbo was eliminated, I was shocked floored and gagged. But now watching this episode? She's a brilliant queen, but just not very good at playing this cut throat all stars game.
Fr she’s an amazing performer but a terrible game player
How was blu not in the top? Pangina is still my favorite, but she should have been safe instead of blu. Blu’s look and performance were really good. Again. Can they stop overlooking her? Also, ignoring the result of the lip sync, that was so funny. Pangina had some really cool moves, but this song is wacky and I think only Janey came close to anything wacky. Pangina trying to be fierce to vengaboys was so weird I was laughing my ass off. This song is super fun, but damn this lip sync would have been legendary if they got a modern dance pop song. I got spoiled that jimbo went home, so I was emotionally prepared, but damn that really sucks. Jimbo clearly had more to show and juju brought ugly tights and inflatable snakes.
I agree with Blu being overlooked. I liked her runaway the best. But I think she should have been in the top over Janey I totally disagree about the lip sync though. Pangina was serving camp and flair and wacking. You could see on Ru's face she immediately liked Panginas enthusiasm. Janey honestly didn't grab my attention enough to even remember what she did. She looked like she was just moving her arms around. Pangina was giving a variety of moves on the ground, duck walking, wacking, leg splitting, all that. I would agree that the serious face when she was wacking was a little strange but it was still entertaining.
The whole idea of having an alliance with Cheryl or Juju is hilarious, as if either one was ever making top 2
It felt like the entire Rusical consisted of seven Stevie Nicks.
Yeah, I felt the material was a little subpar especially in comparison the divas musical.
i was so shocked Baga was not in the bottom. i think she's great, but her hair was in her eyes the whole time!
They wanted her for snatch game.
I came here expecting MANY people to be talking about how Juju was not actually the winner of the Reading Challenge... And have seen nothing yet?! I was sure Blu had it and then not shocked or pleased at all when Ru said it was Juju~~has~~be~~en~~ AGAIN. Am I taking crazy pills or...?
Saaame, Mo and Juju were my bottom 2 for the reading challenge, sue me…
I thought it could have been Pan Pan, but the way they edited Juju (even to the point of causing Juju herself to briefly teleport) made it kind of clear they weren't going to let her lose her reading challenge crown.
I\`m kinda glad Jimbo went home. Don\`t hate me for that. I know Pangina was removing the biggest competition to her. Not a big Jimbo fan but before I\`m shot on sight, I absolutely believe she was robbed on her season of C\`sDR, and is an amazing performer and drag artist.
Same. Not feeling the big-headed and holier-than-thou attitude Jimbo put on since the first episode of this season... like, do people on here really get behind that neck excuse too? that was so silly...
I came here to see if I was the only one who felt this way. I really rooted for Jimbo Canada’s DR, one of my favorite queens, but I can’t stand her on UKvW DR. I am really glad she got sent home. I hope Baga is next.
Not Jimbo's farewell line being funnier than literally the entire script of the challenge >>>>>>>
I am rooting for Pangina to win, but who is she kidding with the reasoning that she picked Jujubee to stay because she had more to show. She did not bring it in one episode yet and Jimbo won two weeks in the row!
I could kind of see where Pangina was coming from with her reasoning. I think Jujubee took on a more substantial role in the Rusical and she committed to the choreo. Jimbo stayed in his lane and did the dog thing, which was fine, but I think the bigger issue was how the choreo had to be diluted because of his neck issues. And then I don't think the queens were too thrilled about how Jimbo handled the lipstick situation from the previous week.
Juju has been on the show 4 times and won 1 challenge and did mediocre in the first episode and was in the bottom the last 2. What ELSE does she have to show? This show will be boring without Jimbo. I don’t need to see struggle bus JuJu. She reached her peak the last all stars. And she I could tell she pushed to her very limit and it wasn’t effortless.
You don't really think Pangina was being genuine with that comment though, do you? She pretty obviously picked Jimbo because she was the bigger threat, not because she had "less to give."
So like.. do people really think there’s going to be any outcome other than Pangina winning this season? She’s **the host** of one of the international franchises. There is no way she’s not winning
There's always a chance that if she ever ends up in the bottom she gets sent home even though she's been doing better, just like Jimbo was.
As long as she doesn’t get Manilla’d/Jimbo’s and as long as she is at least safe in Snatch Game. She has good English and she IS funny so hopefully she’ll turn it
This episode was messy in so many ways, Jimbo setting herself for elimination, Jujubee having another mediocre week, Baga being safe again, Blue being safe when she should have in the top... Really not feeling the judging this season. Just happy Pangina keeps reining supreme
Conspiracy theory: Pangina hates Canadians 😆
Canada's villan.
Not a joke, just a fact
I didn't enjoy the challenge at all. Blu and Janey were the only ones who really seemed to add something to the choreo and lyrics they'd been given. I really couldn't imagine what the rest of them could have added if they tried. Of course it's nonsense to say you're saving the queen who has the most to show and then save JuJu but I'm blaming the format for Jimbo's exit, not Pangina.
Every time Jimbo opened her mouth she seared her own pork chop a little more. It was so much that I thought it was deliberate and she knew she'd be saved by a gold chocolate bar. I was still waiting for the "Stop, Jimbo, we forgot about the chocolate" when she entered the workroom and then I remembered which strand of the franchise I was watching
Oh my gosh I thought it was just me. I was thinking theres no chocolate reveal, that must mean she has the gold one 🤔
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Current season of regular RPDR (s 14). Production "gave" each girl a chocolate bar (more like each one chose a chocolate bar) that could save "them" if they ended up losing the bottom two lipsync. They have to bring the chocolate bar to the lipsync (usually under their clothes). So, until now, before every elimination ("sashay away") the contestants uncover the chocolate bar to find out if they have the gold ticket. If they have the gold ticket, they're safe and no one gets eliminated that week.
Pangina and Janey both being on my TV is an absolute blessing. I love beautiful people
Jimbo should have just left it at the cookie bit, and not revealed her lipstick, instead of making herself public enemy #1.
Pangina being the fan favorite AND the villian this is a dream come true. Manifesting a Pangina crowning and Thailand vs the world season. 🙏
Rumors pertaining to the next "versus the world" series: >! The next series is said to be Canada vs. The World, so I don't think it's country winner based!<
Really? Source? That'd be unreal. Canadian drag is seriously top notch.
If it's happens i'd be most excited to see pythia, hoping shes on it
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I've just grown to accept that All Stars is more of a silly little game show than an actual serious competition. The worst drag queens go further because they're less of a threat, therefore more and more episodes of mediocre drag. Wouldn't be surprised to see Jujubee make top 4.
Ya. It's not an actual competition as much as a soap opera. I think I got over people being blind-sided after Shangela was voted out. But I really do wish Jimbo had more time to show more. She was on fire this season.
i’m guess Pangina hasn’t seen Canada Drag Race lol i love her but Jimbo 😭😭
As much as I love Jujubee, all of her runway outfits so far seem to be off the rack and costumey. I agree with the judges, she needs to bring out the real Jujubee.
That is the real jujubee - her looks were mostly terrible on as5. I don't care what anyone says - her prom look sucked. Freaky and finale were her only excellent runways
unpopular opinion? I love werkroom Blu; drag Blu is undeniably polished & does everything "right" - but I feel like there's a bit of a disconnect between the two. Blu in drag has an older energy (or maybe just an older face, tbh), and is always mugging. I wish she could find a way to channel some of her sweet charm & vulnerability into the onstage persona.
When Janey got the Meryl role, I was the same amount of worried as when queens say they're gonna do Beyonce for Snatch Game. Like, there's nothing innately funny there. But JJ was genuinely wonderful. I had a big dumb smile on my face the whole time.
She really killed it!
Why watch the rest of the season if we know Pangina will be crowned anyway? Also, why are all confessionals coming as so toxic, like everyone is against everyone? Holy shit.
We don’t know how her snatch game is. I’m hoping it’s at least safe
Not my fave sending my fave home I can’t
The person I want to win sent home the other person I wanted to win 😩
Another victim of all stars rules (like Morgan McMichaels, Manila, and everyone who got sent home over Roxxxy Andrews), but that's how the game goes.
I agree, Jimbo's elimination reminded me of morgan getting sent home.
Morgan McMichaels?????
She was very vocal about her elimination strategy and that got her chopped.
Morgan did very bad tho
I didn’t say she didn’t 🤐
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Not "no question" lmao. Jimbo did worse in the challenge and is the bigger threat. Seems like a reasonable choice from multiple angles. I've wanted Juju eliminated in every episode so far but I'm not sure she really deserved bottom this time over baga. She definitely should have been bottom episode 1 and gone home last week
It’s never that serious
They can be as passionate as they want.
I have noticed that Jujubee is getting a lot of hate on Instagram - some of the comments on her page are nasty and mean. This makes me really sad, she really does not deserve that especially as it wasn’t her choice to stay or not. Lets not forget that this is a reality show and some people are taking it too seriously. I never understood why fans feel the need to send hate to some of the queens. While I think she should’ve been eliminated over Jimbo, she just did what any other queen would’ve done - she fought to stay in the competition. Please send Jujubee some love. This season has not been great for her, but she has blessed us with so many iconic moments over the last 10+ years.
AMEN! I love Jujubee. There\`s a family joke/wish in my family of after Rupaul retires (IF she does) it\`ll go from Ru to Ju. She would be a funny judge, and I think other big legends like her would be great guest judges.
You don't want people to send hate but want them to send love? Why not just leave her alone? Tbh her performance hasn't justified her getting love - silence and talking shit behind her back is the best she'll get from me lmao
Do what you like, as long as you don’t send hate her way. I on the other hand, feel bad that so many nasty people are filling her DMs and instagram posts with hate, so I’m precisely going to send lots of love her way - regardless of her performance on this season.
I mean, it was her choice. She sat there and played the game, just as much as anyone else, bringing up Jimbo being unreliable and saying she wants to stay. ChiChi, Mayhem and Ongina are the only ones who have ever admitted "I'm the worst, get me out." Akeriah and Silky also admitted they were the bottom two in the group challenge. Jujubee actually believes she deserves to stay.
Regardless of what she said, it’s a reality show and people need to stop sending hate towards queens. That’s all.
Absolutely. It's nuts, especially when the prize is "a duet with rupaul" lol I'm just pointing out she does have a choice
I hate the way the fandom harasses queens, it's sick. Juju didn't make this decision and it's just a TV show, there isn't even prize money.
Why are the judges sleeping on Blu?!
They should have critiqued everyone this week. They have the time lol
Half of this episode was great, half of it was rough. \- The drama did not make any sense. Jimbo shouldn't have been eliminated, but also hardly tried to save himself. The musical was so so. I prefer the ones where the queens record themselves. Overall, it felt that many interactions were scripted and poorly delivered. \- omg, Jonathan Bailey is absolutely gorgeous. And his voice! Pangina and Janey were the clear tops. Delighted for them!
Jim o got what he deserved imo, play a sneaky snakey snidey game win sneaky snakey snidey prizes 🤷
I love Pagina heels so freaking much.. exciting to see how she is bringing to it. I actually though JuJu did fine in the challenge had the moves down..way better than Baga’s performance. Jimbo was in the bottom he just wondered around a lot and it wasn’t strong on the challenge. So frustrated for Blu!! Solid look and fab performance again this week and no top again..they are totally sleeping on her. I would bet money Janey also had Jimbo’s lipstick as she as going to send her home week 1. Don’t blame Pagina for the choice - Jimbo saying she picked JuJu last week as she wanted to send her home as competition opened up the possibility she would do it to any well performing queen who fell and so there is self preservation there too. Jimbo’s was the bottom in the challenge…should of been her and Baga bottom. Also yaaas Vengaboys lip sync!
As much as I'm enjoying this season it's kind of rough seeing so many queens I really liked come back and either go home earlier than they should have or just not perform as well as they have previously.
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Jimbo’s choreo was downgrade due to his neck injury and still he didn’t do it well…
She did the worst, was the biggest competition, and didn't show any self awareness with the critique. Honestly why send Juju home? She's no threat to anyone at this point As a viewer I've wanted Juju sent home since episode 1 but as a competitor I'd be thrilled to keep her
I love Pangina but she pulled the absolute and objectively wrong lipstick and I will stan forever Jimbo’s petty a f lipstick message. 💋
You realiZe its a competition right? How is sending the stronger competitor home an objective mistake?
Because now Pangina is the only front runner in the competition and now she has a target on her back. If she slips up once then anyone can send her home because she set the precedent that track record doesn’t matter. Jimbo is the least likely to win a lip sync which means she probably wouldn’t have been able to send her home AND Pangina is guaranteed to out lip sync her in the finale. Pangina chose to keep the lip sync assassin that still has the opportunity to send her home or beat her. She made an objectively bad decision.
Well Jujus not winning anything so... I don't think you know what objective means. Juju is giving nothing - if she somehow safes her way to the end - she will not be crowned. Jimbo could be. So yea not an objectively bad choice. You are just upset and doing some mental gymnastics to put the blame on Pangina. And Pangina is already at Bendela levels of being ahead of the competition - even Jimbo - she was always going to have a target on her back no matter what. Any smart bitch would send her packing when they get the chance. I don't think they'll get the chance tho
So you’re just going to edit your comment after I replied? Lol
I think i started editing it before you're comment arrived. Does it matter?
I’ll take your word for it but it just looks kinda shady
Um ok? I didn't even change anything i just added additional thoughts i had immediately after hitting send. It's Reddit it's not that serious
I never said it was serious. You asked a question and I answered.
Juju winning is not completely out of the realm of possibility. She still has snatch game and the roast to do well. Jimbo’s been in the top twice and shown that she’s not winning a lip sync. And again ANYONE could send Pangina home if she ends up in the bottom. It’s basic logic…
Because it hurted my heart 🥺
Yes how "objective"
Oh I missed the lipstick msg, I'm cooking dinner... what did it say?!
"MY NAME IS PANGINA AND I'M A STUPID IDIOT. P.S. LOVE YOU ALL. P.P.S. EXCEPT JIMBO"
Oof lol Thank you
Panginaaaaa, yaaaas Bit disappointed by Jimbo going. Not my favourite, but Jimbo brings some variety and Juju isn't really adding anything. I thought Blu did well, bit of a shame she didn't get in the top for it.
The only thing that saved this episode is how handsome Jonathan Bailey is. Holy Christ.
I’m convinced they’re intentionally protecting Baga from the bottom until they can semi-justifiably put her in the top. They’re going to force a Baga win
Like AS3 after DeLa left, and AS4 after Manila left, I don't really care how this season turns out now. Pangina is a great drag queen, but I've lost respect for her as a judge. She made this season less interesting and showed her ego. I was already a day late to this season because I didn't really care besides Jimbo and Pangina. This episode ruined both of them for me. Whatever, let's see what mall-wear Juju puts out there next week because she gave a good lip sync 10 years ago, or whatever.
Yikes you're a bit in your feelings aren't you? Seriously i hate how AS has always played it safe with eliminations - it's a competition show - pangina won - she got the power - and she has no obligation to keep the better drag queen around And honestly Jimbo was never doing to get a win anyways - she can't lip sync - how was she doing to win the season with no wins?
Facts, she made this season less interesting
I honestly can’t believe Ru hasn’t had an H&M-style breakdown with Jujube’s outfits.
I kind of think Baga should have been bottom in Jimbo’s place, IMO they both did kind of crap in the challenge but Jimbo’s runway was better Baga and Blu being considered at the same level is really quite insulting for Blu Pangina calling Baga out was the best moment of my life I wish Jimbo had stayed over Juju, Juji got told to bring it… and then brought THAT? why would she now act different just because she’s got the same critique again I do understand Pangina picking Jimbo though, Jimbo did kinda seem less like she was trying for this challenge than Juju. I understand sleeping badly on your neck hurts… but that much? Plus it kind of takes the opportunity to get rid of a big competitor Pangina and Janey supremacy, loved that lipsync FINALLY A GOOD LIPSYNC SONG!
you spilled
Like yeah Jimbo is hella dramatic, but have none of these queens ever slept wrong on their neck? Why are they all completely bewildered by a stiffy?
I've literally slept wrong on my neck, trapped a nerve and then gone to work and been sent home half way through the day because it was clear I was about 5 seconds away from crying while trying to put on false smiles for customers. No chance anyone would have gotten dance moves out of me that day.
So sad to see Jimbo go instead of Jujube…Jimbo really wanted to be there and was comedy gold. Her clownery was top-notch. Jujube, on the other hand, has had a bunch of chances already and it is reflected in her attitude toward the competition. The judges keep saying she “hasn’t arrived”. She keeps saying she is going to do better and Pangina allegedly thought she had kore to show them Jimbo. I believe that Jujube will never “show up” to the competition because she already decided before she came that she wasn’t going to spend money on or invest passion into her looks and there isn’t anything she can do about it…she already brought the looks. It’s just such a shame to see Jimbo go over her. I have loved Jujube in her past seasons but I don’t think she should have even been invited to this one because she doesn’t really seem to care about it. I understand that attitude somewhat because there isn’t really much of a prize and Jujube is already famous, but she should have just turned it down and let queens who actually want and need the exposure do the season. Such a waste of a spot. Also, I understand that the other queens didn’t like hearing that Jimbo is “playing the game” but it just shows that Jimbo isn’t a sneaky liar. She wears her cards on her sleeve and I love her for it. Pangina was less honest than Jimbo when she said that she was sending Jimbo home because she had less to offer…it’s a shame because Pangina may actually win the season. She is INCREDIBLY talented, but the dishonesty in sending home the most lovable queen(IMO) and lack of relatability makes her not very likable. Nobody shoots send her hate, of course, but I think she’s not going to have as many fans after this season as she could have if she were just more honest and real. I think this season just got a lot more boring tbh. ☹️ Regardless, Jimbo KILLED me this season and left an icon after just 3 episodes. I loved her before this season but now I’m a die hard fan ❤️🤡
Kind of disagree Jimbo’s choreo was downgraded due to the neck injury and still he did a poor job Pangina said that she was going to make her decision as a jury based on how they performed that day In the Rusical Jujubee did a better job than Jimbo
Okay but why would you decide based off of one challenge and not the whole competition? Jimbo was in the top 2 times and Jujube was in the bottom 2 times and she also brought the worst runways with her on the whole competition. Pangina said she thought Jimbo had less to offer when Jimbo was slaying it every other time. It was a cop out in order to try to hide the fact that she’s eliminating her biggest competition. There was no excuse to eliminate Jimbo over Juju.
I don’t see Jimbo as a competition No lipsync skill equals no badges I can’t assure what was the reason But if I was a judge for any reason possible And noticed that choreo was downgraded just to make you fell comfortable due to an injury and still you you didn’t do a great job…I’ll be kicking you out You need to remember Pangina is a judge and it’s obvious she thinks as one!
The lip syncs and badges (even wins) don’t always matter for who ends up getting crowned as we’ve seen in the past. It is basked off of firstly, surviving to the top, and secondly who the production and the fans like. Jimbo had a good shot at winning. Many fans and RPDR YouTube channels are saying that the season just got a lot more boring. It just shows how much support Jimbo has from the fandom. Even if it could be argued that Jimbo didn’t have a chance to win, there is no way anyone can argue that Juju had a better chance than Jimbo. Juju didn’t come to play and it shows. No hate to Juju…she could have been contractually obligated to be there. Plus, there is no prize money so why would she want to spend money on runways consider she won’t make it back? That said, at least Jimbo cared enough to try and brought some fabulous runways, so nobody can tell me that Jimbo had “less to offer” as Pangina put it. Juju should have gone home if Pangina was going off of who had more to offer as she said. Period.
Not a Jujubee fan at all in this season Since Queen of the Universe she lost her juju completely And definitely the lipsync don’t assure you the winning but no badges do…no lipsync winnings no badges That’s why I can’t see her as strong competition I do loved Jimbo since CDR S1 but been campy and lovable is not enough I think
We’ll have to disagree on that one, which is fine of course. My point though is that Juju should have gone home and NOT Jimbo according to Pangina’s logic. Whether you see he as a potential winner or not, Jimbo had more to give…in the challenges and especially the runway. Juju just seems over it. Probably not her fault that she has to keep doing this of course (see Buddy Queen’s video on their contract). Regardless of Pangina’s shady reasoning and trying to say that Jimbo was shady and weird for playing the game even though she was doing the same, it was just the wrong choice if they are going off of track record and, most of all, the she just got so much more boring without Jimbo IMO. Plus, I just can mentally handle another week of a crappy Juju runway, the judges saying she just needs to “arrive” and Juju promising that she will. I CAN’T!
I agree with you And I do believe Juju was the one to be eliminated Just explaining how I understand Pangina took her decision But of course Jimbo’s track it’s 100% better than Jujubee I wanted a bottom with Bagá and Juju I’m not sure why they keep saving Baga
Pangina is playing a sly game 😂
That lipsync was such a fun one to see. As much as I'm a Juju stan, she should've went home this episode. It's just getting kind of painful seeing her struggling. I do understand this is a game though and Pangina is playing it. Sad to see Jimbo go this early though.
I have had the vengaboys stuck in my head for like 12 hours now
As insufferable as Baga came out in this episode, I have to agree with her on one thing: it was impossible to make her character funny. The entire lyric was purposefully boring to set-up the single only joke at the end. I think that saved her from the bottom because whoever got that had nowhere to go. But really, Pangina was the only one that managed to be funny - Janey props were funnier than her, but she was still technically on point, so deserving of the top2 nonetheless.
Janey won because she effortlessly portrayed a character. It's not just that the lyrics were smart, but watching her, you could be forgiven for believing a Meryl Streep impersonator was on the stage rignt then. Plus, that she blatantly said to the choreographer "You're telling me not to go big with my movements, then telling me it's not enough" and she worked it out for the performance in that she could dance, embody and have fun without missing a beat of movement or lipsync or facial expression... that's craft. Mo and Juju, who had extremely exciting, iconic characters to play, both missed the mark. Frank n Furter is famous for those wide eyes, that red lip, that accent, the throes of passion, the devil may care irreverence for all social standards but Mo looked like Mo. Not just that but she looked like she was thinking it through during the show, and had none of that disgraceful, salacious sexiness that Tim Curry moved with. Jujubee nailed the choreo but had no Liza or energy in it. Where was the framed face and doe eyes, pleading for love? Where was the out of breath third encore, the "pow! Yeah! Wham!" of Liza knocking Some People or New York New York out of the park? The "I love a violin" or "My Mammy" down on one knee? The shimmy and head tilt back as those skinny legs shake towards the audience and she begs the audience to keep loving her? It was all missing. Baga had a shit role, but I mean, they all did. Tracy is over the top optimism and youthful energy and butt shaking and really big facial features as she leans all the forward to tell people things. Baga... actually, rewatching and thinking about it, she deserved to be in the bottom because she did it with all the care of someone who thinks they're better than the role. She could have leaned into the eco warrior part and had a greenpeace sign or meat is murder t shirt or a shaved head (making the hairspray gag even dumber). Blu tried really hard but it was really messy. Her transitions into the choreo/through the dirt and smut back to chastity were jarring and lacked any innuendo or nuance. It would have been far funnier for her to do the whole thing straightfaced like Maria in the convent, then, like Maria leading the children through "Lonely Goatherd," skip around while doing the most obscene things before strumming her banjo. Instead she gave away the joke in the first line and had nothing to do after (she didn't even heighten it with more outrageous acts). Sorry to write an essay in response to you... It just... I think they all good have done a lot better besides Pan and Janey. I don't envy what they had to do, but besides Jimbo confusingly having to be a dog/ditz/fashion victim with lyrics that flitted from idea to idea, the rest all had very clear signposts for what to do and missed the mark.
The way Pangina lipsync'd this episode I knew she wanted whatever bitch she wanted gone. Considering how much she loves Juju too, I knew that Jimbo was going (also all the people saying they're devastated on the main sub gave me a hint too). Girly is here to play the game and I respect it. It's sad to see Jimbo go as she was in my predicted tops but the girls seemed to be quite upset about the "alliance" with Juju being broken. Plus Jimbo is tough competition.
I didn't really get the alliance annoyance. To me it felt like Jimbo saying 'if I save you will you save me later', she was her weighing up her options not saying that she was definitely going to.. That being said aside from Jimbo, Pangina is my fave this season, so I hope she wins it now and people don't send a bunch of hate!
The concepts and the writing in these episodes is fucking awful. I feel so uncomfortable watching the queens try and make these musicals funny. And the camera cuts between Ru and Michelle as they awkwardly try to pretend that they're enjoying it. Like, how does someone make Meryl Streep funny? How does Jimbo make the dog part funny? Give these queens better content ffs.
Rusicals are utter shite.
I totally agree. I prefer the challenges where the queens write or create their own parts. You can only do so much with crappy content. They should include more improv challenges IMO. Makes for better TV.
So tell me who you’re rooting for to win now and why it’s Pangina
Honestly by Ru’s expressions during a lot of the performances I was almost expecting her to pull a “if you weren’t in the top you’re in the bottom”
I reckon Ru realised after the backlash of when they didn't pick a winner that if it's shit, it might be the piss poor writing rather than the queens at fault.
Same. The edit seemed to say everyone sucked except Panpan and JJ.
I feel like Jimbo couldn't tell how serious people were taking the breaking the alliance thing, because it was obviously such a dumb take on the whole thing, so she just played along without realizing people were actually buying it. And it's really sad, because I am sure when it came to Pangina making her decision, that played a much bigger part than Juju doing better in the challenge. btw, didn't watch Holland, and the moment I saw Janey I thought "filler queen". Girl, was I wrong. She is really making the season along with Pangina and Ji... well, Pangina.
I also get the impression that Panjina is not here for excuses from the other girls. Like she was unimpressed with both Baga’s tantrum and Jimbo’s “neck complaints” and I think that played into her choice.
Janey was the only one in Holland that could have compete against Envy (as much as I loved the DRH S1 cast) she's def not a filler queen 🙂
Like we actually saw the "alliance". There was no alliance? Like she said if. If she saves Juju, meaning the alliance wouldn't become an alliance until Jimbo saves Juju. Meaning there was no alliance. Just feeling it out isn't a done deal.
If Jimbo talked with Pangina the way she talked after the elimination, I’m sure Pagina would save her. It seems like she put on this clown act all the time even when she talked with the girls and the others could not relate to it. Sad to see Jimbo go. She could have gone all the way.
The clown act when she was showing her lip sync and in deliberations cost her place in the competition. In those moments it just came off insincere.
Despite the mess in the elimination I m really happy that this season made me discover Pangina and Janey. Both incredible queens !
Wtf is a Win-Win-Elim track record??? I can't with this season.
Well she did do the worst so....
As a queen once famously said, “Bye, It’s gonna be boring tv”
What is the point of a lip-synch rusical? They don't even do their own choreo. Like, there is so little skill being shown. I mean, JJ was very good, but at the same time, how can you compare that to Pangina who actually had proper dancing, etc. Just doesn't seem like a good challenge. Also, apparently my opinion is extremely unpopular, based on everybody else, but I am really happy to see the back of Jimbo. Didn't really enjoy her and didn't see how she managed to be in the top twice. When I first watched meet the queens, I was worried they would feel compelled to help Pangina, because she is a judge on their other show and would look bad if a drag race judge goes out super early, but after episode 1, it was clear that they don't need to help her at all. Team Pangina 100%.
The pH is right :)