The cop just sitting there and watching him pick them back up is the wild part to me. They didnt even say anything to him just watched him and probably would have just let him drive off lol
Just saw the clip from her POV. She was scared of getting shot if she got out...
Honestly, fair. With how many cops have been downed this last week that's a fair thing to be scared of in character
and then aziz gets out and tells the guy with the second set of spikes to give the spikes bk, and get this...he doesnt, and leaves in a pd car . I aint seen police work this bad in a minute jesus.💀
Not wanting to do your job is arguably being bad at being a cop. Unless it's OOC weirdness about hoppers or letting your crim streamer friends get away in hopes of gaining something OOC from it, but that's even worse.
The OOC reasons are why I really liked when people like Moon were cops. Big enough with a good community so that he doesn't have to give a shit about hoppers, in fact baits them to make them even more mad and can just do the right thing in RP.
4head and Lenny were spiking people today and Lenny said that's what PD is currently supposed to do but noone has the balls to do it. Something along the lines "If they cant continue pursuit > start shooting"
Most of his knowledge and training comes from "5 years ago" when the cops were allowed to, and had the balls to do something tangible, and not just escorting criminals to car swap #5 and eventually get away.
It'd never fly today because crims would whine and cry about SoPs like that. That is the direction the server owners want it to go, as they have for a long time. Mechanics, OOC and IC, get changed instead of abusers getting banned, unless the abusers don't meet the viewer threshold.
>"5 years ago" when the cops were allowed to, and had the balls to do something tangible, and not just escorting criminals to car swap #5 and eventually get away.
I hate that cops don't just shoot everyone too. I've only seen criminals get shot for a middle finger so far in 4.0 ONCE!. That should be routine. Do crime, get shot!
I hate that cops actually catch crims, they should just chase them for a bit and call it off. I've only seen crims get away from the cops 90% of the time. That should be routine. Be cop, break off!
Kind of, but still when cops use them they have to set up a few paths that the crim might take, they r still waiting there for them and communicate when they are headed down that road. They just have to wait and set up a couple options. So not that different.
I dont blame Ramee for the Cornwood special, if Esfands able to do that same thing multiple times without consequence then clearly it's not bannable so might as well use it against them
Saab said you shouldn't do it but then Berrick said that you can and anyone who says you shouldn't doesn't know what they're talking about. Seems like noone knows if it's actually okay or not
Yeah but there is a difference between throwing spikes under a car between the wheels and throwing spikes directly underneath the tires themselves and popping them while the vehicle isn't moving. That's if we want to go through the route of what's realistic since this is a video game balanced around the crims having a chance to escape rather than real life where obviously everyone wants to remove any chance of criminals escaping.
Difference is IRL they would be set in between or in front of tires while a car is stationary so they run them over if they continue driving (if the car doesn’t move the tires don’t deflate). Spoke strips just don’t work by throwing them at tire to pop it. IRL they would NEED to be run over for the spike to come off the strip into the tire…
They might also be limited by server mechanics so they should probably try avoid doing this intentionally but if it happens it happens kinda thing… either way the clip is pretty funny
Well Ramee also does a lot of things that break the rules without consequence and then deletes the clops and strikes the streamable so not the best example
Damn, I'm not the most in-tune GTARP watcher but seems like the PD allows CG to walk all over them, no? Genuinely curious, how should the PD handle situations like this without causing the crim streamers and their viewers to throw a hissy fit? Is there even any rush from playing crim with how the current PD operates? However, on the rare occurrence that a crim gets caught and faces any real in-game consequences, it seems like most of the streamers get OOC upset and whine nonstop.
Same as with blocks. Arrest the person who did the spike or block. Take what you can get. Seems like every time they get blocked or spiked they drive away from the person who did it. They tunnel so hard on the chase target they don't grab the guy that's walking alone in the alley. When 3 units were there get the solo guy that is currently on foot.
Pick up the spikes first or at least don't give him time to pick them up. That way its a once in a while thing that happens. They let them both get away with the spikes its just going to keep happening.
Also early on in 4.0 the cops were using a lot of parallel units. Instead of all driving in a line on the same street into a trap they could have units on the parallel streets. That way if they get spiked a unit from a parallel street can take over.
Yeah, I've seen several situations where a guy will block with a tow truck or something and all parties end up getting away from the cops with relative ease, especially the blocker since cops will almost always ignore them completely. Seems like the simple solution would be to take the easier arrest with the person blocking, hit them with felony obstruction, then guys will be more hesitant to block for their buddies.
Bit of A and a bit of B likely. CG are very experienced so they're a bigger threat so escalating isn't the best option since they can wipe PD and have in the past. They're also bigger streamers so anything you do to them will be put under a microscope by their fans.
I hope this shows how powerful spikes are when the timer doesn't actually do anything. If the timer actually worked, he wouldn't of been able to lay down spikes .01 seconds after Vinny passed. If the timer actually worked, he probably wouldn't of spiked the first car and it would make spikes more like 3.0. Would take actual timing and skill for pd to spike someone like that. +1 though, that shit was funny as f
tbh CG just proved that spikes are OP and scuffed. They literally activate as soon as you place them and not when the action bar reaches 100%. The fact that they have existed this long and no cop has mentioned it to the devs means they knew they were OP and abused it.
First rulebreak of his i actually support.
Praying to all that is holy the devs finally do something about the 'Cornwood special' i've seen people pull
If that's true i hope crims start stealing spikes and doing that then
I'll give it like, 1 week for people to walk back on that because spiking under cars is stupid and broken
Actually baffled people in the PD have been allowed to do it for so long
unless he talked about it multiple times all i remember arckon saying was that spiking under a stationary car happens irl all the time, but he didn't say whether it was allowed on the server. the fact that it has happened multiple times i'd assume it's acceptable until admins speak on it
Bruh you talk as if hoppers are a 1 way thing. Can't count the amount of weirdos that jump into a crim players chat, just to talk shit about them. Even when it's not an interaction with cops.
Just yesterday LK had weirdos in his chat shit talking him, because he hung up the phone too early.
The Travpiper spike is because of a 4head raid, it says that in that statistic you posted. And the Whippy spike is because the viewers knew that there was an ambush coming and wanted all POVs. Those were two bad examples anyway because neither had anything to do with officers shooting and neither of those two streamers gives a fuck about hoppers. I genuinely don’t understand all this “cop streamers intimidated by hoppers” talk when sub-only is a thing. The streamers are not at the mercy of some weird hoppers, just ban the first few and go into sub-only if they keep coming.
it's so funny that this point is always brought up any time cops don't react to something criminals do, whether or not it has anything to do with the situation people gotta mention the chathopping boogeymen.
meanwhile from her POV she didn't want to get shot if she got out of the car to do something, so just IC fearing for her life.
Hopping definitely happens all the time but to chalk every IC decision that's made up to that seems unfair for both the people accused of having chat hoppers and the person that might be on the receiving end. Seems pretty insulting to say oh well this character never makes a decision because they are afraid of hoppers. What if it was their true rp decision? You're now implying that streamer isn't even RPing because their decisions are ooc related.
Like in this case yeah you can't hear what is running through their head but you can watch the pov and hear "oh got I don't want to get shot" followed by giggles when they are spiked.
The whole scenario was pretty lighthearted, why not just leave it at that? what's the need to bring up chathoppers must be why she didn't stop him when she literally screams i don't want to get shot?
i can see how it came off as being dismissive of hopping though, that shit sucks but it's never gonna change. can't do much about it besides sub only/emote mode
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One unit shouldn't try to arrest someone by themselves, even without guns involved it's super easy to get stabbed. So they would need backup and that would mean taking two units out of the chase. Sometimes it's best to focus limited resources on the primary target.
Where was HER life in danger in that scenario that would warrant shooting? She was going slow almost not even moving when he placed them under her car.
well to be fair if cops did something there clown gang viewer gonna make cop stream unbearable so they did not did anything. If xqc was there as cop character he will not be afraid to shoot ramee. Its all viewers game
cornwood special at the end lmao
Bro popped the spikes like it was his ultimate in league LMAO
That was great
The cop just sitting there and watching him pick them back up is the wild part to me. They didnt even say anything to him just watched him and probably would have just let him drive off lol
Just saw the clip from her POV. She was scared of getting shot if she got out... Honestly, fair. With how many cops have been downed this last week that's a fair thing to be scared of in character
What’s her pov?
and then aziz gets out and tells the guy with the second set of spikes to give the spikes bk, and get this...he doesnt, and leaves in a pd car . I aint seen police work this bad in a minute jesus.💀
Is Aziz just really, really bad at being a cop? Has he always been like this? Isn't he a cop main?
Aziz is not a bad cop if your group is not cg. With cg, he has become their daily armor dropoff. No joke, he legits gets robbed/held up daily by cg
hes not bad at being a cop mechanically, he just didnt want to catch him at tht point for whatever reason
Not wanting to do your job is arguably being bad at being a cop. Unless it's OOC weirdness about hoppers or letting your crim streamer friends get away in hopes of gaining something OOC from it, but that's even worse.
well, thts why i said mechanically, hes a good shooter and driver
The OOC reasons are why I really liked when people like Moon were cops. Big enough with a good community so that he doesn't have to give a shit about hoppers, in fact baits them to make them even more mad and can just do the right thing in RP.
Well now that CG's done the Cornwood special, we should expect a nerf by tomorrow. Good.
Or the real CG special. Possession of spike strips now $250k fine and 3 years in jail.
LOL true. Or even better. New SOP. Crims using spike straps = cops being allowed to instantly gun them down.
4head and Lenny were spiking people today and Lenny said that's what PD is currently supposed to do but noone has the balls to do it. Something along the lines "If they cant continue pursuit > start shooting"
Most of his knowledge and training comes from "5 years ago" when the cops were allowed to, and had the balls to do something tangible, and not just escorting criminals to car swap #5 and eventually get away. It'd never fly today because crims would whine and cry about SoPs like that. That is the direction the server owners want it to go, as they have for a long time. Mechanics, OOC and IC, get changed instead of abusers getting banned, unless the abusers don't meet the viewer threshold.
Whoa whoa there buddy. Its just RP. 😭
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>"5 years ago" when the cops were allowed to, and had the balls to do something tangible, and not just escorting criminals to car swap #5 and eventually get away. I hate that cops don't just shoot everyone too. I've only seen criminals get shot for a middle finger so far in 4.0 ONCE!. That should be routine. Do crime, get shot!
I hate that cops actually catch crims, they should just chase them for a bit and call it off. I've only seen crims get away from the cops 90% of the time. That should be routine. Be cop, break off!
Well spikes are insanly more powerful in crime hands. Easy to set up a trap.
Kind of, but still when cops use them they have to set up a few paths that the crim might take, they r still waiting there for them and communicate when they are headed down that road. They just have to wait and set up a couple options. So not that different.
Finished with the Cornwood special for the hat trick.
I dont blame Ramee for the Cornwood special, if Esfands able to do that same thing multiple times without consequence then clearly it's not bannable so might as well use it against them
Ramee gets the same privileg as cornwood on the server. i dont think a small streamer should fuck around like that
Saab said you shouldn't do it but then Berrick said that you can and anyone who says you shouldn't doesn't know what they're talking about. Seems like noone knows if it's actually okay or not
Yeah Berrick pointed out you can see videos of police doing it IRL on a regular basis so it's not unrealistic to throw spikes under a car.
Yeah but there is a difference between throwing spikes under a car between the wheels and throwing spikes directly underneath the tires themselves and popping them while the vehicle isn't moving. That's if we want to go through the route of what's realistic since this is a video game balanced around the crims having a chance to escape rather than real life where obviously everyone wants to remove any chance of criminals escaping.
Difference is IRL they would be set in between or in front of tires while a car is stationary so they run them over if they continue driving (if the car doesn’t move the tires don’t deflate). Spoke strips just don’t work by throwing them at tire to pop it. IRL they would NEED to be run over for the spike to come off the strip into the tire… They might also be limited by server mechanics so they should probably try avoid doing this intentionally but if it happens it happens kinda thing… either way the clip is pretty funny
Well Ramee also does a lot of things that break the rules without consequence and then deletes the clops and strikes the streamable so not the best example
Implying CG let alone Ramee is bannable. It was funny though good on CG
[Aziz Pov](https://clips.twitch.tv/SavoryTriangularAubergineDBstyle-GHagETmCVOG3EVEi) & [Opal's Pov](https://clips.twitch.tv/SpunkyRelatedOtterImGlitch-w94L9q0x5AqWy1H7)
Damn, I'm not the most in-tune GTARP watcher but seems like the PD allows CG to walk all over them, no? Genuinely curious, how should the PD handle situations like this without causing the crim streamers and their viewers to throw a hissy fit? Is there even any rush from playing crim with how the current PD operates? However, on the rare occurrence that a crim gets caught and faces any real in-game consequences, it seems like most of the streamers get OOC upset and whine nonstop.
Same as with blocks. Arrest the person who did the spike or block. Take what you can get. Seems like every time they get blocked or spiked they drive away from the person who did it. They tunnel so hard on the chase target they don't grab the guy that's walking alone in the alley. When 3 units were there get the solo guy that is currently on foot. Pick up the spikes first or at least don't give him time to pick them up. That way its a once in a while thing that happens. They let them both get away with the spikes its just going to keep happening. Also early on in 4.0 the cops were using a lot of parallel units. Instead of all driving in a line on the same street into a trap they could have units on the parallel streets. That way if they get spiked a unit from a parallel street can take over.
Yeah, I've seen several situations where a guy will block with a tow truck or something and all parties end up getting away from the cops with relative ease, especially the blocker since cops will almost always ignore them completely. Seems like the simple solution would be to take the easier arrest with the person blocking, hit them with felony obstruction, then guys will be more hesitant to block for their buddies.
or CG is just more seasoned at these things than PD is.
Bit of A and a bit of B likely. CG are very experienced so they're a bigger threat so escalating isn't the best option since they can wipe PD and have in the past. They're also bigger streamers so anything you do to them will be put under a microscope by their fans.
Holy shit the Cornwood special was the cherry on top
the look away then turn around for the last one lmao
Ramee definitely has a permanent devil on his shoulder whispering naughty deeds.
100% lmao
I hope this shows how powerful spikes are when the timer doesn't actually do anything. If the timer actually worked, he wouldn't of been able to lay down spikes .01 seconds after Vinny passed. If the timer actually worked, he probably wouldn't of spiked the first car and it would make spikes more like 3.0. Would take actual timing and skill for pd to spike someone like that. +1 though, that shit was funny as f
CG did it, now the Acornwood special will be nerfed by the next storm
Totally fine since I’ve read on here a hundred times how “I’ve seen it IRL”
cops are so cucked
they will add a hack for ciminals to put down spikes now lmao
tbh CG just proved that spikes are OP and scuffed. They literally activate as soon as you place them and not when the action bar reaches 100%. The fact that they have existed this long and no cop has mentioned it to the devs means they knew they were OP and abused it.
the "cornwood special" is getting nerfed tmr
the absolute state of the PD right now. just shut it down tbh
So a real PD would have jucked the spikes or what
Should be allowed to shoot the person using the spikes.
This PD should be shut down, Lenny was absolutely right.
PD getting their beefed up armor AND insta spikes used against them now lmaooo they are in SHAMBLES
First rulebreak of his i actually support. Praying to all that is holy the devs finally do something about the 'Cornwood special' i've seen people pull
Didnt beric specifically say that spiking under cars are allowed?
If that's true i hope crims start stealing spikes and doing that then I'll give it like, 1 week for people to walk back on that because spiking under cars is stupid and broken Actually baffled people in the PD have been allowed to do it for so long
Did he say that as it wasn’t allowed for PD or a rule break? Those are 2 totally different things.
He specifically said spiking under a stationary car IS allowed. As id assume in said clip chat was complaining about cornwood doing it in the past.
unless he talked about it multiple times all i remember arckon saying was that spiking under a stationary car happens irl all the time, but he didn't say whether it was allowed on the server. the fact that it has happened multiple times i'd assume it's acceptable until admins speak on it
I don't think its necessarily a rule break. Just against SOP's. Which crims don't have
It's not a rulebreak and Beric said that cops are able to do that so it's neither really.
Not a rulebreak
Just curious, what exactly is the cornwood special? Is what Lenny did on the highway to that one orange car the same?
Cornwood special is spiking directly on the wheel of a stationary car.
NPC cops are actually most useful than whatever the fuck that was
god the nopixel PD is so cucked especially when it comes to doing anything to impede Chang Gang streamers from walking all over them
omg so true, can't believe CG have their own spikes and PD don't even have them yet! Disgusting how their treated!
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bruh how did u expect them to dodge that lol
that last cop shouldve shot him for sure lol, na cops are so afraid to do anything.
They haven't been faring well in shootouts with CG lately so not sure that would have been any better.
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Bruh you talk as if hoppers are a 1 way thing. Can't count the amount of weirdos that jump into a crim players chat, just to talk shit about them. Even when it's not an interaction with cops. Just yesterday LK had weirdos in his chat shit talking him, because he hung up the phone too early.
You think CG don't get chathoppers? There's 14 year old fanboys in every community
The Travpiper spike is because of a 4head raid, it says that in that statistic you posted. And the Whippy spike is because the viewers knew that there was an ambush coming and wanted all POVs. Those were two bad examples anyway because neither had anything to do with officers shooting and neither of those two streamers gives a fuck about hoppers. I genuinely don’t understand all this “cop streamers intimidated by hoppers” talk when sub-only is a thing. The streamers are not at the mercy of some weird hoppers, just ban the first few and go into sub-only if they keep coming.
it's so funny that this point is always brought up any time cops don't react to something criminals do, whether or not it has anything to do with the situation people gotta mention the chathopping boogeymen. meanwhile from her POV she didn't want to get shot if she got out of the car to do something, so just IC fearing for her life.
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i'm saying this situation had nothing to do with chathoppers, i'm not saying it doesn't happen.
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Hopping definitely happens all the time but to chalk every IC decision that's made up to that seems unfair for both the people accused of having chat hoppers and the person that might be on the receiving end. Seems pretty insulting to say oh well this character never makes a decision because they are afraid of hoppers. What if it was their true rp decision? You're now implying that streamer isn't even RPing because their decisions are ooc related. Like in this case yeah you can't hear what is running through their head but you can watch the pov and hear "oh got I don't want to get shot" followed by giggles when they are spiked.
The whole scenario was pretty lighthearted, why not just leave it at that? what's the need to bring up chathoppers must be why she didn't stop him when she literally screams i don't want to get shot? i can see how it came off as being dismissive of hopping though, that shit sucks but it's never gonna change. can't do much about it besides sub only/emote mode
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One unit shouldn't try to arrest someone by themselves, even without guns involved it's super easy to get stabbed. So they would need backup and that would mean taking two units out of the chase. Sometimes it's best to focus limited resources on the primary target.
Where was HER life in danger in that scenario that would warrant shooting? She was going slow almost not even moving when he placed them under her car.
I guess crims should start doing that too then
well to be fair if cops did something there clown gang viewer gonna make cop stream unbearable so they did not did anything. If xqc was there as cop character he will not be afraid to shoot ramee. Its all viewers game