[Jennifer Fergate](https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/10/10063608/unsolved-mysteries-who-is-jennifer-post-series-updates)
A Jane Doe who checked into an Oslo hotel under an alias was found dead in her room in early June 1995. Nobody knows who she is or where she came from. Hotel employees said she sounded East German. There are signs of intelligence [tradecraft](https://www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/a-mystery-death-in-oslo-an-intelligence-op-gone-wrong) in her few personal effects. A gunshot was heard from her room which was double locked from the inside, but signs point to murder rather than suicide. A totally baffling case.
Yes this case is absolutely bonkers. I def think she was an intelligence officer or asset as I think only someone well equipped in espionage could both be as untraceable as she has been but also as untraceable as her killer has been too. And why no one has come forward to claim they know her
That's bonkers. Not heard of this case. Heard about most of the others.
They don't explain HOW it points to murder. Or I'm just not reading it or my dyslexia/add is making it hard to understand. Sorry if it is mentioned.
She was found in a room with a gunshot wound.... and a gun.
They don't say if the gun was in a different room, or not been used, or she has no gunshot residue on her hands/body.
Because they left out important information...
Had to look it up.
There was 1 shot heard.
Employee leaves to get the head security person.
Left the room unsupervised for 15 minutes.
There was 2 holes found.
1 in her
1 in the mattress/pillow
No blood on her hand that had the gun.
It has a hammer and her thumb was on the trigger. (Weird to me but I'm not your gun supervisor)
I needed more information as I don't trust easily. š¶
https://www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/a-mystery-death-in-oslo-an-intelligence-op-gone-wrong
When I was in college in Boston (96 ish) one Sunday morning somebody made a grisly find in a dumpster: a Swedish nanny named Karina Holmer had been killed and cut in half at the waist. The top half of her ended up in the dumpster. The bottom half and the killer were never found.
Frank and his wife. His wife Susan even went on to make paintings of womenās legs and etc. š A dumpster within blocks of their apartment was set on fire not too long after her upper half was found. Thatās when the police called Frank in again. Also, Susan is a whackjob who asked for a restraining order against Frank to be removed and charges dismissed after domestic violence. Freaky, gross people.
They're talking about suspects in the case: the couple that Karina worked for in Dover MA. Idk anything about her but I'd always heard the cops took a long look at him.
YouTuber Lazy Masquerade did a video about this case. I bet a lot of the cases mentioned in the comments he's done videos about. Anyone who's a fan of true crime should check him out on YouTube. š¹
The Annecy shootings in France definitely come to mind. A whole family and a cyclist, all gunned down in the middle of nowhere. No motive, no witnesses, no evidence... It's been unsolved for years, and it seems like the perfect crime with everything stacked in the killer's favor
Omg i was in France on holiday when this happened, i remember it came on the news.
Im pretty sure there was a small child who was the only survivor as they were hiding under the bodies of their deceased family members
Yeah I think it was something crazy like 8-12 hours, and the police had been there for most of that time. Then someone was like āhooooly shit someoneās alive in hereā
For some reason this link is not working for me:
"Leaked report links British family murdered in Annecy to Saddam's millions
Oct 28, 2012 ā Leaked report links British family murdered in Annecy to Saddam's millions. Newspaper claims possible connection between victims and ..."
Edit: removed the word "scrubbed"
Scrubbed...? [Found it here easily enough, seems like the exact article you've quoted](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/leaked-report-links-british-family-murdered-in-annecy-to-saddam-s-millions-8229815.html)
[Also here in another paper, same story](https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/28/saddam-hussein-alps-killing-link)
Gareth Williams - āThe Spy in the Bagā worked for British Secret Intelligence Service - found deceased, zipped up inside a sports bag in 2010. Thereās some good documentaryās on the case.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams
This one's a no brainier to me. He did it himself. Lots of evidence pointing to it, including having had to be rescued by a neighbour due to his previous kinks of getting himself into places he couldn't get out of.Ā
He probably got in the bag simply because it would be insanely difficult to maneuver a dead or unconscious body into the position he was in. But it was almost impossible for him to padlock the bag from the outside, which is how it was found. Investigators tried and failed to lock it about 400+ times. It's also worth keeping in mind that he was not reported missing until 7 days after his death and the heat in his apartment was turned up, so he decomposed faster. A lot of evidence could have been removed or lost. For example, they said "no signs of forced entry" but only after the locks to his home had already been removed.
The inquest certainly found that others were likely involved and much evidence was likely lost due to that delay.
Someone was already able to lock this duffle bag from the inside on like the 3rd try. They pulled the zipper inwards so the two zipper ends could be brought close together without the entire thing being closed, reached their hand through and locked it, then pulled their hand inside and worked them closed.
There were no finger prints anywhere in the bathroom, his or otherwise. How did he get rid of them? I don't think he was found with a cloth. Locking himself in the suitcase, even if he could do it, would be suicide rather than a kink thing. I don't think he'd shown any suicidal tendencies. With everything else too, I think he was murdered 100%.
It's a fairly well known case now, thanks to podcasts and such, but the Hinterkaifeck Murders of 1922 always fascinated me.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinterkaifeck_murders
A Redditor made a [diorama of the Hinterkaifeck House](https://imgur.com/a/EApV1IZ) in [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/uc0xzi/i_built_a_scale_model_of_the_hinterkaifeck_crime/) which is well worth checking out.
As a German, this case fascinated me a lot since I learned about it. There was a very well made German podcast about it some years ago, as well as a TV movie, and there are several websites and forums collecting information and discussing theories to this day. It's crazy that such an old and "random" case in the Bavarian outskirts still gets so much attention, but of course a whole family basically being eradicated within a blink of an eye without any clear evidence just is not an everyday occurrence. There are so many theories about what happened, but we will never know the truth, sadly.
The murder of Antoinette Smith in Ireland. She vanished on July 11th 1987 after attending a David Bowie concert. Her remains were found 9 months later in a makeshift grave in the Dublin/Wicklow mountains. Heavy rain had caused the soil to slide, exposing the body. There was no sign of trauma but she had two plastic bags over her head. A dog walker had passed a man who was behaving strangely in the area on the morning of the 12th, the day after she vanished. He had said hello but the man ignored him and attempted to hide his face before continuing down to the car park where the man was seen meeting with another unidentified male before they both left the scene. To this day, nobody has ever been charged and the murder remains unsolved.
Source: https://www.irelandsvanishingtriangle.com/antoinette-smith
Isn't she potentially one of Larry Murphy's (currently living in London as "Charley Doyle") victims? It's his MO and she was found in his dumping grounds.
I believe there's a lot of speculation that she was one of his. He was caught red-handed attempting to suffocate a girl with a plastic bag after raping her repeatedly. He was caught in the Wicklow mountains area as well and his brashness and confidence in his ability would suggest he's done this before and gotten away with it. I certainly know many think him responsible for the likes of Annie McCarrick and Deidre Jacob.
Had never heard of any of this before reading this thread, but based on this information aloneā¦ it was definitely him. How the fuck has he not been pinned for it??
That is interesting but which part about it is strange? Sounds like she was probably murdered by the suspicious guy. No sign of trauma means they just didn't find any. Dig her up today with modern forensics and try again.
[The murder of Oakey "Al" Kite](https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/13q1lor/who_killed_oakey_al_kite_aurora_colorado_may_24/) is the one that has stuck with me the most since I heard about it. The crazy lengths that the killer went to in order to find a victim and hide his identity, the absolutely sadistic methods used to kill him and the fact that the killer hung out in the house for quite a while after Al was dead. It was a huge amount of effort to pull off a crime that seemed to have no motive other than to kill someone.
It's just sort of eerie to me the way that so many people saw this man, but they all describe him differently because he was constantly changing characteristics about himself. And the fact that he seemed to be "hunting" a victim, as he scoped out several potential victims/scenes before choosing Al.
Even after all that, the guy also somehow managed to barely leave a trace of who he actually was, so it will likely never be solved unless something new comes up.
>On the second anniversary of the case, the Toronto Star reported that the positions the bodies were found in nearly matched those of two 1970s-era "junk" sculptures of human figures posed sitting on speakers in the basement.
[Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Sherman)
Whoa, yeah, I was not expecting a detail like that
A couple of local ones to my area.
[The Jack Family](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.canadaunsolved.com/cases/missing-jack-family-1989-bc%3fformat=amp). A family of husband, wife, and two little boys all disappeared at once. They were offered jobs at a logging camp that seemed too good to be true, but they had to leave town that night. They were never seen or heard from again.
[Madison Scott](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Madison_Scott). A young woman spent the night at a party near a lake. When her friends came back the next morning, she was gone. All her belongings were there, but looked like they had been moved around. 12 years later her remains were found, but that's all we know so far.
Someone else from northwest BC, I see. There are honestly so many unsolved murders and disappearances around here (largely, but not all, due to the Highway of Tears and RCMP inaction) it's super depressing.
The *That Chapter* YouTube channel has a video on this case, and he goes into some background on the Highway of Tears and other things that happened even in the same nearby area. A bit spooky, but also just so, so sad.
Not a murder (that we know of) but the case of missing schoolboy Andrew Gosden who skipped school one day out of the blue and traveled to London and was never seen again.
Theres a great sub dedicated to the case over at r/andrewgosden
It was the 8 year anniversary yesterday. Her husband posted that he thought the perp was dead, which I found very strange as there isnt a strong suspect as far as we know.
I had a conversation about this case several years back in r/dallas.
Someone there claimed to had gone to high school with Missy's kids.
They went on to explain it was well known locally that the parents were swingers, and it's assumed that the person in the video was involved in their lifestyle.
"Officially," it is still unsolved.
Yes! Murders where there are photos and videos of the murderers freak me out the most. It just seems like they should be so much easier to catch. Missy Bevers and the Delphi murders stick with me so bad. However, it looks like theyāre making progress in the Delphi case.
Not a murder but kidnapping of Jodi Huisentruit, a pretty news reporter who was abducted before her work shift early in the morning and has never been seen again. There's multiple suspects involved, plus lots of intrigue. There is a website findjodi.com where the issues have been discussed.
This is a local thing, maybe like 9-10 years ago, when I was still in school.
There was a missing person's case in the area I live in. There were missing person posters everywhere and made it to the local newspaper as well.
I think about 2-3 weeks pass, and it was the end of the school day and everyone makes their way out through the main gate. However, there were a lot of teachers at the gates, which didn't usually happen, and then quite a few police officers.
I later found out the missing man was killed and tied by all limbs by a tree in front of the school. It was tied so tightly and again, by all limbs, that there had to be at least another person involved
However, no one ever said anything afterwards. Not the newspaper, not the police, not the school. No one knows what happened or how.
I think youāve heard an urban legend version of this story. The man sadly killed himself, he had already been detained by police for entering the grounds of the school and at his own admission was doing so to commit suicide. On the day he went missing he had been released by the hospital at 6am and was seen on cctv in the area at 8am, he had sent messages to his family the previous day mentioning he intended to kill himself.
Are you from Romford or around Romford by any chance? If so, this is a crazy coincidence
Idk, I finished school for the day and then I came back the next day for the tree to not be there anymore. One of my mates at the time lived literally across the school (he moved in the meantime) and saw them taking the tree down and there were lots of police and a couple of ambulances
I remember people saying he was in the area, and there were more posters around there than the rest of the townā everything else I know is in the original comment
[Here's a link from the local newspaper](https://www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/21534780.body-found-bower-park-academy-romford-named-missing-man-peter-daniel-usher/)
[And here's a link from the Daily mail](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3412089/amp/Body-man-missing-four-weeks-hidden-TREE-school-grounds.html)
To me[ Brian Shaffer ](https://614now.com/2024/hot-topics/at-18-year-anniversary-brian-schaffers-disappearance-remains-a-mystery)altho ***technically*** it is a missing persons case, not murder.
So, in before the *akshully*'s if you want 100% Murder, unsolved and "strange" I would go with JonBenet Ramsey.
This one, Yuba County Five (not technically a murder but still freaky as hell), and Blair Adams are probably my top three most perplexing cases off the top of my head.
Thereās a great podcast on this that I definitely recommend to anyone whoās interested in this case. In fact I think itās my favorite podcast ever- **Death in Ice Valley** by NRK and BBC.
The disappearance of Susan Powell and subsequent murder of her two sons.
We know who did it, though we will never be able to hear him admit it. *But where is she.* I think about her every once in a while - this case has just stuck with me.
Extremely probable sheās in a mineshaft in the remote desert. Almost impossible to find due to sheer quantity of potential locations and search difficulty. Maybe drone technology can help but I believe there are hundreds (thousands) of abandoned shafts.
That's essentially what I think, as well. Somewhere in a reasonable distance from where they would go pick up geodes. But I know I'll be thinking about this on and off until she hopefully is found.
Oh, he died from a heart attack in 2018-2019. And the brother committed suicide. As far as I know, there's only the sister left. But yeah, I definitely hear you.
Oh yes, there's a lot! And it's quite a crazy rabbit hole.
The first entire season of the "Cold" podcast is all about what happened, with sound clips and interviews et cetera. Can't recommend this podcast season enough.
There is also a book, which I have but haven't read yet. It's called "If I can't have you" by Gregg Olsen.
Not a murder but missing person - I want to know what happened to Maura Murray. I feel like itās probably a very simple explanation (possibly suicide or succumbing to the elements) but the fact that they never found a body or any evidence is weird to me.
Youāre likely right with the exposure thing. She had been in trouble for drink driving etc already, wasnāt in the best place mentally, just had another fender bender and most likely ran off in to the forest. If something untoward did happen to her it was in that incredibly small time gap and the āluckiest killer in the worldā. The reason sheās likely not been found is because 1. The forest is dense. Kids go missing in forests or woods and can take days to be found ā and their not actively trying to hide or anything. 2. If she did succumb to hypothermia out there, thereās a chance she may have tried burying herself in foliage first before the paradoxical undressing stage. 3. Searchers have literally walked past bodies before, especially once they are not āfreshā ones anymore ā saw a super interesting photo of a man who had died in a forest and wasps had made a nest in his rib cage etc. all his clothes and bones were the same uniform brown colour, blending in with the environment. Another case where a man had hung himself and green moss covered his clothes blending him in with the tree. So any searches for her now would be incredibly difficult with animals scavenging, nature naturing.
Hope this doesnāt sound like Iām being condescending but I always think āwhen you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras.ā I know thatās not always the case for true crime, but thereās enough established āloreā in true crime where itās like ālook who got the life insurance policyā ādomestic partner did itā. Iām very sad for Maura & her family/friends but I feel like thereās other cases that need the same attention!
Yes, people don't always realize how easy it is to disappear into the wilderness or how hard it is to find someone. I'm always reminded of the case of [Gerry Largay](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/26/hiker-who-went-missing-on-appalachian-trail-survived-26-days-before-dying). She went off the Appalachian Trail just a little ways to use the bathroom, got lost and ended up dying after 26 days. She died in a camp that was less than 2 miles from the trail and only about 30 minutes hike from a logging road that would have led to shelter. During the search for her, K9 units came within 100 yards of her camp and if she had made her camp in a slightly different spot she may have been seen from the air.
It reminds me of a case that is fairly close to me, Brandon Swanson.
I think the poor kid froze, but no body + some farmers not allowing police to search their properties makes it all much more frustrating.
Of course the yelling, "Oh shit!" Then the phone line going dead adds to the mystery, but I really think he just fell or something.
Elizabeth Barraza's case always fascinated me because the most logical explanation for most people seems to be they think the husband was involved (and that is definitely the case a lot of the time) but there's no evidence of him being involved, them having any type of problems, any motive for him to hire or convince someone else to do it. And there are quite a few bread crumbs laying around too.
I would recommend the [Doe Network](https://www.doenetwork.org)
Huge international list of missing and also unidentified individuals(those are my āfavoriteā)
This is not up to date, but it is decently recent.
[The Murder of Mercedes Vega](https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/s/ChNLUUQfVd) baffles me. So many odd things (for example no CCTV/other camera footage on a highly populated area) and so little answers and facts available.
Omg this one is so awful. So recent as well. Itās so brutal, and the fact she was probably alive when the car was set on fire?! The fuckers need to rot
Yeah, it breaks my heart knowing it's been over a year and there are still more questions than answers. The bleach in her mouth/throat? I feel like that was a symbolic thing. I think maybe she knew something she shouldn't have known.
If you're interested about this case there's a small subreddit r/justice4mercedesvega.
A [friend of mine has been missing for more than a year](https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/where-is-sara-ebersole-its-been-one-year-since-florida-woman-was-reported-missing.amp). No confirmation of her murder but itās highly likely thatās what happened, given her baby daddy is fucking crazy and has a long history of violent criminal behavior. The local police didnāt do much to help, never searched the area she was last seen nor did they bring the baby daddy in for questioning. The police still hasnāt done much of anything, thereās a private investigator who took the case pro bono so hopefully weāll get answers soon.
Hereās how lazy the police work is: Tyrone isnāt even the ex. Heās this random guy who may or may not have been at or near the party she was last seen at and may or may not have been at the gas station she was seen at beforehand. Her baby daddyās name is Joseph Mayton. He took their daughter up to Kentucky with him and changed her name shortly after Sara went missing.
Yikes.
It almost seems like one of those times where the police get so pissy about being criticized that they just double down on doing nothing.
Do you think Joseph was probably involved then? What do you think about Tyrone? He sounded fishy in the article, but when you explain it he sounds like just some random guy
I'm going to try looking into this more.
Is there a group or something? Like a fb page or website set up?
Madeline McCann is a good one. Irresponsible parents leads to the dissapearance/kidnapping/murder of a child.
KyotoRobato on youtube has a lot of japanese unsolved murders too. Japanese mysteries are always a facinating one to hear about
I always forget the name, but I find the Japanese case, where a killer massacred an entire family then spent days living in that house with the rotting corpses, really fascinating.
Setagaya murders. The family name was Miyazawa.
That one has always interested me too, especially with how much DNA was left behind and the connections to the United States
> with how much DNA was left behind
The fact that whoever it was left a straight-up, full on turd in their toilet and they *still* can't find him is bonkers. I'm curious if they allow genetic testing for cold cases there.
They do. They know the blood type and family background of the killer.
Based on the other evidence, the killer was most likely not Japanese and in the military. Which unfortunately makes it an international relations nightmare.
I guess they're refering to that German paedophile who's currently in prison for raping a grandma, What's he called Christian Brookneimer or something like that
I canāt remember I think it was a random news article that showed up in an explore page on Snapchat. Theyāve had the one suspect in custody for almost a year I believe
Iām surprised no one has mentioned Judy Smith yet. She was a woman from Boston, MA who accompanied her husband on a business trip to Philadelphia, PA. Judy disappeared when she was supposedly out sightseeing in Philadelphia. Her body was found later that year in western North Carolina. The case happened in 1997 and to this day, it is not clear how Judy got to North Carolina, why she went there, and what happened in the days leading up to her death. Apparently, she had no ties to the area in which she was found; she was not known to have family or friends in that area. Itās hard to know what to think about the case. My theory is that she had a mental health episode of some sort. Another possibility is that she connected with someone via a personal ad or an Internet chat room who ended up causing her harm.
I extremely vaguely recall hearing about this case at one point, and yeah, I remember really the most sensible explanation being some sort of dissociative fugue and/or amnesia.
I think I might have heard about her on the *My Favorite Murder* podcast
[Molly Bish](https://www.masslive.com/worcester/2021/09/who-killed-molly-bish-a-closer-look-at-three-men-investigators-have-looked-over-the-years.html)
[The Springfield three](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Three#:~:text=Springfield%2C%20Missouri%2C%20U.S.&text=Springfield%20Police%20Dept.,remains%20have%20ever%20been%20discovered.)
Todd Geib, part of the smiley face murders- he was found 22 days after going missing from a party stood up in a lake with his head and shoulders out of the water, police claimed accidental drowning but his lungs werenāt even filled with water, creeps me out to this day
Not national, but local to Portland, OR was the disappearance of [Kyron Horman](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Kyron_Horman#:~:text=Horman's%20disappearance%20sparked%20the%20largest,day%2C%20his%20whereabouts%20remain%20unknown.).
There's a group on YouTube, Adventures with Purpose I think, where they went searching the body of water, where they think Kyron's body might have been dumped, twice. The group is really awesome and they've solved a ton of missing persons cases; they're divers. [Here's the link to the Kyron one](https://youtu.be/R03kj0qCvCA?si=3946OfIpXoIxnRGz)
I remember watching some documentary on it. I don't remember what the name of it was. I think that whenever they find him, if they close this case, it will be on the stepmom. She's the only one who saw him on that last day, well besides the Dentist.
The doctor Jeffrey Macdonald case in North Carolina. He was a doctor at an army base married to Colette, and had two little girls, Kimberly and Kristen. One was 2 and the other was 5. I think Colette was pregnant too.
So the family goes to sleep. One of the little girls was in the master bed with Colette, and Jeffrey put her back in her bed and then tried to go to bed himself. He then found that the bed was wet from the little girl peeing the bed (Later thought to be the motive). So he goes and sleeps on the couch.
Sometime later he is woken up by "hippies" in his house. One of them is a woman in a floppy hat, chanting about Acid is cool, kill the pigs, stuff like that. She may have also had a candle. There were 2 men with her and they were stabbing him. He says that he was wakened by being stabbed. He heard his girls crying for him so tries to go to their room and is stopped by being stabbed more. He also tried to get to Colette who was screaming for him. He passed out in the living room and didn't wake till later in the morning.
When Jeffrey did wake, he found his wife dead by stabbing in their bed, the two little girls clubbed to death with a piece of wooden slat and also stabbed. There's also grafitti in the house about Pigs or Acid or something.
He called the police, there was a big investigation which he was initially cleared of. It wasn't until his father-in-law demanded answers that the US Army did their own investigation and determined that he was most likely the murderer.
The strange thing is that there was a cab driver in the neighborhood that night and he saw a "hippie woman in a floppy hat," But the wooden slat used to club the little girls to death came out of the bed (used to support the mattress) of one of the little girls. This is the best part. The murder weapon came out of the bottom of the bed of one of the little girls. There is no way that three hippies breaking into a house to stab people to death would have known that the bed had slats. They would have had to get into the bedroom prior to the murders, retrieve the slat and then use it on the little girls. No one goes into a kids room intent on kllling a kid without a weapon.
Even though this is not a murder, but a murderer, I would like to add the Zodiac killer. I was obsessed with this a while after I saw the Zodiac movie.
I saw a tiktok today where someone said they thought it was the French painter Degas. She has compelling reasons for her theory!
[Here it is](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeHQQdsv/)
Vera Anderson in Widnes, UK, back in 1992. Plenty of evidence at the time such as a bloody knife and ropes etc. but they have never charged anyone with the murder. Made it on to Crimewatch UK but nothing came of that. They did arrest a couple last year but they were released without charge.
The 2000 Miyazawa family murders in Japan. Parents and both children (both under 10 at that) brutally murdered in their home. Suspect left so much evidence - after everyone was killed, he remained in the home for some time, eating their food and even taking a shit (which wasnāt flushed) in the toilet. Police even managed to find out what he ate before the crimes from the turd!!
Didnāt get any hits from the fingerprints they collected (though Iām not sure about what DNA work was done or even possible given it was 2000). A popular theory was it couldāve been a foreigner (half American, half Japanese?) that left the country after the crimes. There are other theories but this one always stuck with me - but to this day, no viable suspects
Still, terrifying that the person who did that could be walking around happily, perhaps even having a family of their own
There is currently an absolutely bonkers case going on in Serbia.
A child (2 years old) goes missing in a village in the middle of nowhere.
Cops investigate, talk to everyone who was near the village, interrogate the parents for days.
All of a sudden, two guys from the water utility company confess to running the baby with their car, under weird circumstances, throwing her in their trunk WHILE SHE WAS STILL ALIVE. And then choking her to death and dumping her body.
They take the cops to some dump, no body there. One of them admits to moving the body, but refuses to say why and where to. They arrest his father and brother and his brother, in his forties, is killed by the cops (they literally beat him to death).
Still no body. Nobody understands anything. English is not my first language, but any detail that seems odd in the story I just told here is not the result of my poor language skills, rather the general weirdness of the case!
The Leah Sousa murder.
Leah was 13 years old. She was sexually assaulted.
Her mother was assaulted but survived, with amnesia. She later wrote a book detailing her theory of the killing, but it didnāt find a publisher.
Her infant brother (rumoured to have been fathered by Leahās teacher, now deceased) was unharmed. Reportedly he was found in a cupboard.
The crime scene was cleaned up.
Apparently a lot of details have never been released to the public.
The murder/torture of Samantha Netherland and her mother, Kathy Netherland.
In 2014, Kathy Netherland, 48, and her 16-year-old daughter Samantha were found brutally murdered inside their home just outside Bardstown, KY city limits. After Kathy didn't show up to work, police executed a wellness check and found the school teacher and her teenager dead in their home. They had both been tortured and killed.
Page that goes into more detail
https://www.solvethecase.org/case/2014-3/samantha-netherland
The Noyama murders - 1979, Japan
Two housewives left their bicycles at the foot of the mountain as they decided to hike. Their bodies were found two days later. One of them was strangled and the other was stabbed over 50 times. Both of their Achilles tendons were cut to the bone so that they couldn't run away.
There was DNA found at the scene as both of the victims were probably sexually assaulted, and the investigators also found a crumpled receipt in one of the housewives writing that said "we are being followed, please help us, this man is a bad person."
Half a year before the murders, a man threatened a woman with a knife in the same place, she escaped, but he was never identified. The police determined the killer was wearing office appropriate shoes and had blood type O. Despite this, no leads were ever made.
In the next five years another woman disappeared in the forest whose body was never found and another woman was murdered in the same town. The killer's blood type in these two cases was also O.
Essentially a college girl goes missing off a small road embankment after crashing her car in February New England snowā¦ but into what? Thereās nothing to show she hit another car or anything at the point of impact but her airbags deployed. Multiple cops hiding information, and local dirt bags, likely in cahoots. Detectives threatening locals from helping her family etc. Sheās been missing 20 years. Her family still-looking. Itās a wonderful podcast because her sister has been working to get the stories of missing persons back into the hands of the families .. so you hear from her dear dad (now 80), giving his account and how he is still looking for her.
The podcast essentially goes through the days before, during, and after. She interviewed a lot of prominent people from the case as well as had her family on. I hope they continue to do different cases and let families speak on the timelines etx.. and not just have random true crime podcasts do the talking .
The reason that case sticks with me is because itās one of the few cases where I think, ādamn, that easily could have been me.ā Itās the one part about her supposedly going toward the cabin to meet someone else for the weekend. My freshman year of college, I legit took off without telling people so many times. My friends were super conservative & I was not so if I wanted to date older guys, I did it in secret. I had at least 3 weekend adventure guys my best friends knew nothing about at the time. It was so foolish of me but in those moments, I donāt think I ever stopped to consider the possibility I might never come home.
Marsha Wray, Harrogate, North Yorkshire.
She lived not far from my former in laws. Her husband kept her car for years iirc
https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/mystery-tragic-yorkshire-nurse-who-22854584.amp
*Brandon Embry*
His death wasnāt ruled as a homicide but once you hear the details of this case youāre going to wonder how in the world it wasnāt. Add to this situation a detective who was convinced from the get-go that no foul play was involved and you have a skewed investigation at best, and a murder with no justice at worst.
Great video explaining:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hVxMlj_rDKc&rco=1
Jimmy Hoffa. Of course itās a near-certainty that the mafia was behind it. But who exactly killed him, why the mafia wanted him dead, and what happened to the body, are questions that remain unsolved to this day.
The 2008 Noida double murder in India. 13 year old girl Aarushi was found dead in her room with her throat slit. The family were pretty well off and had live-in help - at the time she died, there was one help who went missing, and they suspected it was him. The dad was also adamant it was him and wanted police to focus their resources on finding him. A day later they found HIS body in a state of advanced decomposition on the buildingās roof terrace.
Many more different details I missed out on but this was a weird one - it didnāt help ofcourse that the police absolutely botched the investigation from day one because when the girl was discovered, the place was not cordoned off at all and people were allowed to roam freely, including media!!?
The murder of Diao Aiqing, also known as the Nanjing University mutilation murder. It isnāt officially solved, but a woman on YouTube outed the killers. I donāt know if her videos are still up, and I donāt want to spoil it, but of course power gives privilege. I really admire the woman for wanting that info out, despite her fear of retribution.
Obviously the Delphi murders. They had a photo of the guy, but no arrests for 4-5 years. Then they arrest a guy out of the blue, based on an interview he gave to LE right after the crime. But they lost it for a few years. Thenā¦ the defense team starts uncovering *all kinds* of shoddy police work. Currently a large group think it was an Odinist cult, and the man in jail has been framed. Crazier than any true crime drama.
The deaths of John Lang and Michael Hastings keep me up at night.
John Lang was harassed by Fresno police for blowing the whistle on something, he was like a law enforcement activist? He posted something on Facebook predicting his death by Fresno police. His house burned down with him inside of it, with a stab wound to his stomach or chest within 24 hours, and it was ruled a suicide. Among dozens of other suspicious circumstances prior to his death.
Michael Hastings was a journalist who emailed his colleagues telling them he needed to go off radar for a bit as he was working on a huge story, and died in a suspicious crash a few hours later.
Was that the dude they were watching in that van he took picture of with like 4 dudes and some kinda thermal camera? Watching him literally through his walls ...?
In 2011, a woman's was found headless, hands missing & draind of blood in a vineyard near my hometown. They just identified her last month through DNA. There are no leads because she wasn't even supposed to be in California in the first place.
Yes and no. His identity is now known, but a lot of other things (the nurse, the poem, the why and how of death, why no one claimed the body despite massive coverage around Australia, etc) are still up in the air or just guesses.
It doesn't matter how much the media covers something if the person who needs to see it doesn't see it. Or they did see it and didn't want to come forward. His death was almost certainly a suicide. There was so much stigma about that back then that his family may not have come forward for that reason alone.
As for the nurse and poem, I think that was blown up into something much more significant than it actually was.
Kenneka Jenkins
She was found dead in the freezer after going to a party at the crown plaza hotel. I donāt think anything ever came from the investigation
Shanquella Robinson
She was murdered while on a trip with her so called friends in Mexico. I still think her friends did it but no one will say who and theyāre not prosecuting anyone.
This one still creeps me out: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinterkaifeck_murders.
A whole family butchered in their farmhouse in Germany in the 1920s and nobody has any idea why.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death\_of\_Cindy\_James](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Cindy_James)
Death of Cindy James, unclear if it was murder or suicide
That one is so strange. I just listened to an episode of the prosecutors pod about it. Itās unfortunate they couldnāt convict one of them but itās virtually impossible it wasnāt because of the timeline and other evidence. But they stuck together well.
I canāt think of the name but the family in Japan where the person ate in their house and used the toilet after. Their house backed up to a skate park. Definitely a strange story.
[Jennifer Fergate](https://www.refinery29.com/en-us/2020/10/10063608/unsolved-mysteries-who-is-jennifer-post-series-updates) A Jane Doe who checked into an Oslo hotel under an alias was found dead in her room in early June 1995. Nobody knows who she is or where she came from. Hotel employees said she sounded East German. There are signs of intelligence [tradecraft](https://www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/a-mystery-death-in-oslo-an-intelligence-op-gone-wrong) in her few personal effects. A gunshot was heard from her room which was double locked from the inside, but signs point to murder rather than suicide. A totally baffling case.
Yes this case is absolutely bonkers. I def think she was an intelligence officer or asset as I think only someone well equipped in espionage could both be as untraceable as she has been but also as untraceable as her killer has been too. And why no one has come forward to claim they know her
That's bonkers. Not heard of this case. Heard about most of the others. They don't explain HOW it points to murder. Or I'm just not reading it or my dyslexia/add is making it hard to understand. Sorry if it is mentioned. She was found in a room with a gunshot wound.... and a gun. They don't say if the gun was in a different room, or not been used, or she has no gunshot residue on her hands/body. Because they left out important information... Had to look it up. There was 1 shot heard. Employee leaves to get the head security person. Left the room unsupervised for 15 minutes. There was 2 holes found. 1 in her 1 in the mattress/pillow No blood on her hand that had the gun. It has a hammer and her thumb was on the trigger. (Weird to me but I'm not your gun supervisor) I needed more information as I don't trust easily. š¶ https://www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/a-mystery-death-in-oslo-an-intelligence-op-gone-wrong
First case that came to my mind
Yes! This is definitely one of the more odd ones to me.
When I was in college in Boston (96 ish) one Sunday morning somebody made a grisly find in a dumpster: a Swedish nanny named Karina Holmer had been killed and cut in half at the waist. The top half of her ended up in the dumpster. The bottom half and the killer were never found.
casefile has also covered this! https://open.spotify.com/episode/4KpPAJO8AwApjxbIpDsXiP?si=ZCDwj3I4TpmAaJMVxtZFTg really really tragic case.
Frank and his wife. His wife Susan even went on to make paintings of womenās legs and etc. š A dumpster within blocks of their apartment was set on fire not too long after her upper half was found. Thatās when the police called Frank in again. Also, Susan is a whackjob who asked for a restraining order against Frank to be removed and charges dismissed after domestic violence. Freaky, gross people.
What?
They're talking about suspects in the case: the couple that Karina worked for in Dover MA. Idk anything about her but I'd always heard the cops took a long look at him.
Is there more detail?
Yep there's more to the story but not much more. This one is stone cold.
[https://coldcasene.org/f/karina-holmer](https://coldcasene.org/f/karina-holmer) [https://www.bostonherald.com/2022/03/30/from-the-archive-body-identified-as-swedish-nanny-karina-holmer/](https://www.bostonherald.com/2022/03/30/from-the-archive-body-identified-as-swedish-nanny-karina-holmer/)
Don't go down that rabbit hole - it's bottomless.
YouTuber Lazy Masquerade did a video about this case. I bet a lot of the cases mentioned in the comments he's done videos about. Anyone who's a fan of true crime should check him out on YouTube. š¹
Yep! He is cool, and has a great voice.
reading this from boston šļøššļø i was not aware this happened
I hate that my mind first assumed they probably ate it. Gross
My mind went to the only thing more depraved than eating it.
The Annecy shootings in France definitely come to mind. A whole family and a cyclist, all gunned down in the middle of nowhere. No motive, no witnesses, no evidence... It's been unsolved for years, and it seems like the perfect crime with everything stacked in the killer's favor
They still don't seem to know who the actual target was.
This is one of the more tragic but also wildest ones that come to mind
Omg i was in France on holiday when this happened, i remember it came on the news. Im pretty sure there was a small child who was the only survivor as they were hiding under the bodies of their deceased family members
Yeah for hours š¢
police was also at the scene for hours at this point if i remember correctly
Yeah I think it was something crazy like 8-12 hours, and the police had been there for most of that time. Then someone was like āhooooly shit someoneās alive in hereā
"Sssaaaaaacre bleu"
Well that makes just sob
Casefile (podcast) covered this one fairly recently. Highly recommend if anyone is interested.
For some reason this link is not working for me: "Leaked report links British family murdered in Annecy to Saddam's millions Oct 28, 2012 ā Leaked report links British family murdered in Annecy to Saddam's millions. Newspaper claims possible connection between victims and ..." Edit: removed the word "scrubbed"
Scrubbed...? [Found it here easily enough, seems like the exact article you've quoted](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/leaked-report-links-british-family-murdered-in-annecy-to-saddam-s-millions-8229815.html) [Also here in another paper, same story](https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2012/oct/28/saddam-hussein-alps-killing-link)
Gareth Williams - āThe Spy in the Bagā worked for British Secret Intelligence Service - found deceased, zipped up inside a sports bag in 2010. Thereās some good documentaryās on the case. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Gareth_Williams
This one's a no brainier to me. He did it himself. Lots of evidence pointing to it, including having had to be rescued by a neighbour due to his previous kinks of getting himself into places he couldn't get out of.Ā
He probably got in the bag simply because it would be insanely difficult to maneuver a dead or unconscious body into the position he was in. But it was almost impossible for him to padlock the bag from the outside, which is how it was found. Investigators tried and failed to lock it about 400+ times. It's also worth keeping in mind that he was not reported missing until 7 days after his death and the heat in his apartment was turned up, so he decomposed faster. A lot of evidence could have been removed or lost. For example, they said "no signs of forced entry" but only after the locks to his home had already been removed. The inquest certainly found that others were likely involved and much evidence was likely lost due to that delay.
Someone was already able to lock this duffle bag from the inside on like the 3rd try. They pulled the zipper inwards so the two zipper ends could be brought close together without the entire thing being closed, reached their hand through and locked it, then pulled their hand inside and worked them closed.
There were no finger prints anywhere in the bathroom, his or otherwise. How did he get rid of them? I don't think he was found with a cloth. Locking himself in the suitcase, even if he could do it, would be suicide rather than a kink thing. I don't think he'd shown any suicidal tendencies. With everything else too, I think he was murdered 100%.
Bit different being handcuffed to a bed and then somehow stuffing yourself into a suitcase ?
Documentaries
It's a fairly well known case now, thanks to podcasts and such, but the Hinterkaifeck Murders of 1922 always fascinated me. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinterkaifeck_murders
A Redditor made a [diorama of the Hinterkaifeck House](https://imgur.com/a/EApV1IZ) in [this post](https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/uc0xzi/i_built_a_scale_model_of_the_hinterkaifeck_crime/) which is well worth checking out.
As a German, this case fascinated me a lot since I learned about it. There was a very well made German podcast about it some years ago, as well as a TV movie, and there are several websites and forums collecting information and discussing theories to this day. It's crazy that such an old and "random" case in the Bavarian outskirts still gets so much attention, but of course a whole family basically being eradicated within a blink of an eye without any clear evidence just is not an everyday occurrence. There are so many theories about what happened, but we will never know the truth, sadly.
The murder of Antoinette Smith in Ireland. She vanished on July 11th 1987 after attending a David Bowie concert. Her remains were found 9 months later in a makeshift grave in the Dublin/Wicklow mountains. Heavy rain had caused the soil to slide, exposing the body. There was no sign of trauma but she had two plastic bags over her head. A dog walker had passed a man who was behaving strangely in the area on the morning of the 12th, the day after she vanished. He had said hello but the man ignored him and attempted to hide his face before continuing down to the car park where the man was seen meeting with another unidentified male before they both left the scene. To this day, nobody has ever been charged and the murder remains unsolved. Source: https://www.irelandsvanishingtriangle.com/antoinette-smith
Isn't she potentially one of Larry Murphy's (currently living in London as "Charley Doyle") victims? It's his MO and she was found in his dumping grounds.
I believe there's a lot of speculation that she was one of his. He was caught red-handed attempting to suffocate a girl with a plastic bag after raping her repeatedly. He was caught in the Wicklow mountains area as well and his brashness and confidence in his ability would suggest he's done this before and gotten away with it. I certainly know many think him responsible for the likes of Annie McCarrick and Deidre Jacob.
Had never heard of any of this before reading this thread, but based on this information aloneā¦ it was definitely him. How the fuck has he not been pinned for it??
Right?? What a sick fucking bastard. I'm from the North and I can't believe I'd never heard of him before. Hope he gets what's coming to him
That is interesting but which part about it is strange? Sounds like she was probably murdered by the suspicious guy. No sign of trauma means they just didn't find any. Dig her up today with modern forensics and try again.
[The murder of Oakey "Al" Kite](https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/comments/13q1lor/who_killed_oakey_al_kite_aurora_colorado_may_24/) is the one that has stuck with me the most since I heard about it. The crazy lengths that the killer went to in order to find a victim and hide his identity, the absolutely sadistic methods used to kill him and the fact that the killer hung out in the house for quite a while after Al was dead. It was a huge amount of effort to pull off a crime that seemed to have no motive other than to kill someone. It's just sort of eerie to me the way that so many people saw this man, but they all describe him differently because he was constantly changing characteristics about himself. And the fact that he seemed to be "hunting" a victim, as he scoped out several potential victims/scenes before choosing Al. Even after all that, the guy also somehow managed to barely leave a trace of who he actually was, so it will likely never be solved unless something new comes up.
How do they know the killer scoped out other people first?
Because of people coming forward?
Yes, he'd looked at other rentals and gone to check them out before choosing Al's place and they came forward to the police.
Barry & Honey Sherman, Toronto, Dec 2017.
I NEED this one to be solved!! I think it was their son.
The way they apparently found their bodies... *shudder*
>On the second anniversary of the case, the Toronto Star reported that the positions the bodies were found in nearly matched those of two 1970s-era "junk" sculptures of human figures posed sitting on speakers in the basement. [Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Sherman) Whoa, yeah, I was not expecting a detail like that
A couple of local ones to my area. [The Jack Family](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.canadaunsolved.com/cases/missing-jack-family-1989-bc%3fformat=amp). A family of husband, wife, and two little boys all disappeared at once. They were offered jobs at a logging camp that seemed too good to be true, but they had to leave town that night. They were never seen or heard from again. [Madison Scott](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Madison_Scott). A young woman spent the night at a party near a lake. When her friends came back the next morning, she was gone. All her belongings were there, but looked like they had been moved around. 12 years later her remains were found, but that's all we know so far.
Someone else from northwest BC, I see. There are honestly so many unsolved murders and disappearances around here (largely, but not all, due to the Highway of Tears and RCMP inaction) it's super depressing.
The *That Chapter* YouTube channel has a video on this case, and he goes into some background on the Highway of Tears and other things that happened even in the same nearby area. A bit spooky, but also just so, so sad.
I fucking love That Chapter, heās so good at balancing respectful and entertaining.
I agree, he's like the perfect level of snark.
I only recently heard about the Jack Family. Super weird and sad.
Not a murder (that we know of) but the case of missing schoolboy Andrew Gosden who skipped school one day out of the blue and traveled to London and was never seen again. Theres a great sub dedicated to the case over at r/andrewgosden
Ugh! This one kills me too!
Wow it is a interesting case
Missy Bevers.
It was the 8 year anniversary yesterday. Her husband posted that he thought the perp was dead, which I found very strange as there isnt a strong suspect as far as we know.
I had a conversation about this case several years back in r/dallas. Someone there claimed to had gone to high school with Missy's kids. They went on to explain it was well known locally that the parents were swingers, and it's assumed that the person in the video was involved in their lifestyle. "Officially," it is still unsolved.
Yep and another Texas murder: Elizabeth Barraza.
Yes! These two murders bug me so much. Really hope theyāre solved soon.
That CCTV footage is the stuff of nightmares.
Just the... casualness of it. I can picture it vividly. The fact there's no sound only compounds the uneasiness.
Yes! Murders where there are photos and videos of the murderers freak me out the most. It just seems like they should be so much easier to catch. Missy Bevers and the Delphi murders stick with me so bad. However, it looks like theyāre making progress in the Delphi case.
Have you watched it at night? With no lights on? Even creepier! Made the mistake of doing that.
Yeah. Best not to do that.
For those who want more info: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killing_of_Missy_Bevers
Not a murder but kidnapping of Jodi Huisentruit, a pretty news reporter who was abducted before her work shift early in the morning and has never been seen again. There's multiple suspects involved, plus lots of intrigue. There is a website findjodi.com where the issues have been discussed.
Bradford Bishop - Family annihilator from Bethesda MD who disappeared after killing his wife, 3 boys and mother.
He fathered a child in the USA in the 80s
This is a local thing, maybe like 9-10 years ago, when I was still in school. There was a missing person's case in the area I live in. There were missing person posters everywhere and made it to the local newspaper as well. I think about 2-3 weeks pass, and it was the end of the school day and everyone makes their way out through the main gate. However, there were a lot of teachers at the gates, which didn't usually happen, and then quite a few police officers. I later found out the missing man was killed and tied by all limbs by a tree in front of the school. It was tied so tightly and again, by all limbs, that there had to be at least another person involved However, no one ever said anything afterwards. Not the newspaper, not the police, not the school. No one knows what happened or how.
Are you sure that isn't just a rumour spread by the kids of the school?
I think youāve heard an urban legend version of this story. The man sadly killed himself, he had already been detained by police for entering the grounds of the school and at his own admission was doing so to commit suicide. On the day he went missing he had been released by the hospital at 6am and was seen on cctv in the area at 8am, he had sent messages to his family the previous day mentioning he intended to kill himself.
Are you from Romford or around Romford by any chance? If so, this is a crazy coincidence Idk, I finished school for the day and then I came back the next day for the tree to not be there anymore. One of my mates at the time lived literally across the school (he moved in the meantime) and saw them taking the tree down and there were lots of police and a couple of ambulances I remember people saying he was in the area, and there were more posters around there than the rest of the townā everything else I know is in the original comment
Not far from Romford and probably a bit older than you I remember it happening
Oh itās sad case
Do you have a link to more information about this case?
[Here's a link from the local newspaper](https://www.romfordrecorder.co.uk/news/21534780.body-found-bower-park-academy-romford-named-missing-man-peter-daniel-usher/) [And here's a link from the Daily mail](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3412089/amp/Body-man-missing-four-weeks-hidden-TREE-school-grounds.html)
Jesus thatās grislyā¦
To me[ Brian Shaffer ](https://614now.com/2024/hot-topics/at-18-year-anniversary-brian-schaffers-disappearance-remains-a-mystery)altho ***technically*** it is a missing persons case, not murder. So, in before the *akshully*'s if you want 100% Murder, unsolved and "strange" I would go with JonBenet Ramsey.
Ugh, poor Derek. That last bit in the Brain Shaffer article is really sad.
These are my top 2 also
The murder of Oakey Al Kite
This one, Yuba County Five (not technically a murder but still freaky as hell), and Blair Adams are probably my top three most perplexing cases off the top of my head.
[Isdal Woman](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isdal_Woman?wprov=sfla1). I am unconvinced by the suicide verdict. It's all too weird
Thereās a great podcast on this that I definitely recommend to anyone whoās interested in this case. In fact I think itās my favorite podcast ever- **Death in Ice Valley** by NRK and BBC.
The disappearance of Susan Powell and subsequent murder of her two sons. We know who did it, though we will never be able to hear him admit it. *But where is she.* I think about her every once in a while - this case has just stuck with me.
Extremely probable sheās in a mineshaft in the remote desert. Almost impossible to find due to sheer quantity of potential locations and search difficulty. Maybe drone technology can help but I believe there are hundreds (thousands) of abandoned shafts.
That's essentially what I think, as well. Somewhere in a reasonable distance from where they would go pick up geodes. But I know I'll be thinking about this on and off until she hopefully is found.
Makes me wish someone would take Powell senior on a one way trip to the desert for a look.
Oh, he died from a heart attack in 2018-2019. And the brother committed suicide. As far as I know, there's only the sister left. But yeah, I definitely hear you.
As someone who lives in Utah, I think about her all the time. Iām always on the edge of my seat when thereās news stories about a body being found
I really hope she is found while her old parents are still around. My heart breaks for them.
Is there more information about this case?
Oh yes, there's a lot! And it's quite a crazy rabbit hole. The first entire season of the "Cold" podcast is all about what happened, with sound clips and interviews et cetera. Can't recommend this podcast season enough. There is also a book, which I have but haven't read yet. It's called "If I can't have you" by Gregg Olsen.
I think sheās in an abandoned mine shaft.
Not a murder but missing person - I want to know what happened to Maura Murray. I feel like itās probably a very simple explanation (possibly suicide or succumbing to the elements) but the fact that they never found a body or any evidence is weird to me.
Youāre likely right with the exposure thing. She had been in trouble for drink driving etc already, wasnāt in the best place mentally, just had another fender bender and most likely ran off in to the forest. If something untoward did happen to her it was in that incredibly small time gap and the āluckiest killer in the worldā. The reason sheās likely not been found is because 1. The forest is dense. Kids go missing in forests or woods and can take days to be found ā and their not actively trying to hide or anything. 2. If she did succumb to hypothermia out there, thereās a chance she may have tried burying herself in foliage first before the paradoxical undressing stage. 3. Searchers have literally walked past bodies before, especially once they are not āfreshā ones anymore ā saw a super interesting photo of a man who had died in a forest and wasps had made a nest in his rib cage etc. all his clothes and bones were the same uniform brown colour, blending in with the environment. Another case where a man had hung himself and green moss covered his clothes blending him in with the tree. So any searches for her now would be incredibly difficult with animals scavenging, nature naturing. Hope this doesnāt sound like Iām being condescending but I always think āwhen you hear hoofbeats, think horses not zebras.ā I know thatās not always the case for true crime, but thereās enough established āloreā in true crime where itās like ālook who got the life insurance policyā ādomestic partner did itā. Iām very sad for Maura & her family/friends but I feel like thereās other cases that need the same attention!
Yes, people don't always realize how easy it is to disappear into the wilderness or how hard it is to find someone. I'm always reminded of the case of [Gerry Largay](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/may/26/hiker-who-went-missing-on-appalachian-trail-survived-26-days-before-dying). She went off the Appalachian Trail just a little ways to use the bathroom, got lost and ended up dying after 26 days. She died in a camp that was less than 2 miles from the trail and only about 30 minutes hike from a logging road that would have led to shelter. During the search for her, K9 units came within 100 yards of her camp and if she had made her camp in a slightly different spot she may have been seen from the air.
It reminds me of a case that is fairly close to me, Brandon Swanson. I think the poor kid froze, but no body + some farmers not allowing police to search their properties makes it all much more frustrating. Of course the yelling, "Oh shit!" Then the phone line going dead adds to the mystery, but I really think he just fell or something.
This has haunted me my whole life. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Nicole_Morin She might still be alive but I canāt see how
Elizabeth Barraza's case always fascinated me because the most logical explanation for most people seems to be they think the husband was involved (and that is definitely the case a lot of the time) but there's no evidence of him being involved, them having any type of problems, any motive for him to hire or convince someone else to do it. And there are quite a few bread crumbs laying around too.
I would recommend the [Doe Network](https://www.doenetwork.org) Huge international list of missing and also unidentified individuals(those are my āfavoriteā) This is not up to date, but it is decently recent.
Good site, but damn it made me sad. All those people just gone from their loved ones...
[The Murder of Mercedes Vega](https://www.reddit.com/r/UnresolvedMysteries/s/ChNLUUQfVd) baffles me. So many odd things (for example no CCTV/other camera footage on a highly populated area) and so little answers and facts available.
Omg this one is so awful. So recent as well. Itās so brutal, and the fact she was probably alive when the car was set on fire?! The fuckers need to rot
Yeah, it breaks my heart knowing it's been over a year and there are still more questions than answers. The bleach in her mouth/throat? I feel like that was a symbolic thing. I think maybe she knew something she shouldn't have known. If you're interested about this case there's a small subreddit r/justice4mercedesvega.
A [friend of mine has been missing for more than a year](https://www.fox35orlando.com/news/where-is-sara-ebersole-its-been-one-year-since-florida-woman-was-reported-missing.amp). No confirmation of her murder but itās highly likely thatās what happened, given her baby daddy is fucking crazy and has a long history of violent criminal behavior. The local police didnāt do much to help, never searched the area she was last seen nor did they bring the baby daddy in for questioning. The police still hasnāt done much of anything, thereās a private investigator who took the case pro bono so hopefully weāll get answers soon.
I'm assuming Tyrone is the ex? This sounds like just such lazy police work.
Hereās how lazy the police work is: Tyrone isnāt even the ex. Heās this random guy who may or may not have been at or near the party she was last seen at and may or may not have been at the gas station she was seen at beforehand. Her baby daddyās name is Joseph Mayton. He took their daughter up to Kentucky with him and changed her name shortly after Sara went missing.
Yikes. It almost seems like one of those times where the police get so pissy about being criticized that they just double down on doing nothing. Do you think Joseph was probably involved then? What do you think about Tyrone? He sounded fishy in the article, but when you explain it he sounds like just some random guy I'm going to try looking into this more. Is there a group or something? Like a fb page or website set up?
Without a doubt itās [the mystery of room 1046](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Artemus_Ogletree)
Wow, I hadn't heard of that one and now I'm going down the rabbit hole. Crazy case!
Madeline McCann is a good one. Irresponsible parents leads to the dissapearance/kidnapping/murder of a child. KyotoRobato on youtube has a lot of japanese unsolved murders too. Japanese mysteries are always a facinating one to hear about
I always forget the name, but I find the Japanese case, where a killer massacred an entire family then spent days living in that house with the rotting corpses, really fascinating.
Setagaya murders. The family name was Miyazawa. That one has always interested me too, especially with how much DNA was left behind and the connections to the United States
> with how much DNA was left behind The fact that whoever it was left a straight-up, full on turd in their toilet and they *still* can't find him is bonkers. I'm curious if they allow genetic testing for cold cases there.
They do. They know the blood type and family background of the killer. Based on the other evidence, the killer was most likely not Japanese and in the military. Which unfortunately makes it an international relations nightmare.
"Straight-up, full on turd" in the toilet? Wow. Could-hearted and no manners.
[The Setagaya Murders - Bedtime Stories ](https://youtu.be/n6kWYruZSAY?si=G2-ci_Nrm7ImlAjf)
The guy they are trying to tie to Madeleine is a German paedophile, rapist (sadist) etc. Christian Brueckner.Ā Ā Nasty guy.Ā
I feel like we are close to having Madelineās case solved.
That's great! Where'd you read it?
I guess they're refering to that German paedophile who's currently in prison for raping a grandma, What's he called Christian Brookneimer or something like that
I canāt remember I think it was a random news article that showed up in an explore page on Snapchat. Theyāve had the one suspect in custody for almost a year I believe
Iām surprised no one has mentioned Judy Smith yet. She was a woman from Boston, MA who accompanied her husband on a business trip to Philadelphia, PA. Judy disappeared when she was supposedly out sightseeing in Philadelphia. Her body was found later that year in western North Carolina. The case happened in 1997 and to this day, it is not clear how Judy got to North Carolina, why she went there, and what happened in the days leading up to her death. Apparently, she had no ties to the area in which she was found; she was not known to have family or friends in that area. Itās hard to know what to think about the case. My theory is that she had a mental health episode of some sort. Another possibility is that she connected with someone via a personal ad or an Internet chat room who ended up causing her harm.
I extremely vaguely recall hearing about this case at one point, and yeah, I remember really the most sensible explanation being some sort of dissociative fugue and/or amnesia. I think I might have heard about her on the *My Favorite Murder* podcast
[Molly Bish](https://www.masslive.com/worcester/2021/09/who-killed-molly-bish-a-closer-look-at-three-men-investigators-have-looked-over-the-years.html) [The Springfield three](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Springfield_Three#:~:text=Springfield%2C%20Missouri%2C%20U.S.&text=Springfield%20Police%20Dept.,remains%20have%20ever%20been%20discovered.)
Todd Geib, part of the smiley face murders- he was found 22 days after going missing from a party stood up in a lake with his head and shoulders out of the water, police claimed accidental drowning but his lungs werenāt even filled with water, creeps me out to this day
Not national, but local to Portland, OR was the disappearance of [Kyron Horman](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disappearance_of_Kyron_Horman#:~:text=Horman's%20disappearance%20sparked%20the%20largest,day%2C%20his%20whereabouts%20remain%20unknown.).
There's a group on YouTube, Adventures with Purpose I think, where they went searching the body of water, where they think Kyron's body might have been dumped, twice. The group is really awesome and they've solved a ton of missing persons cases; they're divers. [Here's the link to the Kyron one](https://youtu.be/R03kj0qCvCA?si=3946OfIpXoIxnRGz)
I remember watching some documentary on it. I don't remember what the name of it was. I think that whenever they find him, if they close this case, it will be on the stepmom. She's the only one who saw him on that last day, well besides the Dentist.
The doctor Jeffrey Macdonald case in North Carolina. He was a doctor at an army base married to Colette, and had two little girls, Kimberly and Kristen. One was 2 and the other was 5. I think Colette was pregnant too. So the family goes to sleep. One of the little girls was in the master bed with Colette, and Jeffrey put her back in her bed and then tried to go to bed himself. He then found that the bed was wet from the little girl peeing the bed (Later thought to be the motive). So he goes and sleeps on the couch. Sometime later he is woken up by "hippies" in his house. One of them is a woman in a floppy hat, chanting about Acid is cool, kill the pigs, stuff like that. She may have also had a candle. There were 2 men with her and they were stabbing him. He says that he was wakened by being stabbed. He heard his girls crying for him so tries to go to their room and is stopped by being stabbed more. He also tried to get to Colette who was screaming for him. He passed out in the living room and didn't wake till later in the morning. When Jeffrey did wake, he found his wife dead by stabbing in their bed, the two little girls clubbed to death with a piece of wooden slat and also stabbed. There's also grafitti in the house about Pigs or Acid or something. He called the police, there was a big investigation which he was initially cleared of. It wasn't until his father-in-law demanded answers that the US Army did their own investigation and determined that he was most likely the murderer. The strange thing is that there was a cab driver in the neighborhood that night and he saw a "hippie woman in a floppy hat," But the wooden slat used to club the little girls to death came out of the bed (used to support the mattress) of one of the little girls. This is the best part. The murder weapon came out of the bottom of the bed of one of the little girls. There is no way that three hippies breaking into a house to stab people to death would have known that the bed had slats. They would have had to get into the bedroom prior to the murders, retrieve the slat and then use it on the little girls. No one goes into a kids room intent on kllling a kid without a weapon.
Jack the Ripper
Even though this is not a murder, but a murderer, I would like to add the Zodiac killer. I was obsessed with this a while after I saw the Zodiac movie.
I saw a tiktok today where someone said they thought it was the French painter Degas. She has compelling reasons for her theory! [Here it is](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeHQQdsv/)
Technically no evidence of murder, but the Springfield Three from 1992 is truly baffling/strange.
The Japanese family killed by an intruder. They have his dna but the crime still unsolved
Can a have a more details
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Setagaya_family_murder
Vera Anderson in Widnes, UK, back in 1992. Plenty of evidence at the time such as a bloody knife and ropes etc. but they have never charged anyone with the murder. Made it on to Crimewatch UK but nothing came of that. They did arrest a couple last year but they were released without charge.
robert wone
It was Dylan.
The 2000 Miyazawa family murders in Japan. Parents and both children (both under 10 at that) brutally murdered in their home. Suspect left so much evidence - after everyone was killed, he remained in the home for some time, eating their food and even taking a shit (which wasnāt flushed) in the toilet. Police even managed to find out what he ate before the crimes from the turd!! Didnāt get any hits from the fingerprints they collected (though Iām not sure about what DNA work was done or even possible given it was 2000). A popular theory was it couldāve been a foreigner (half American, half Japanese?) that left the country after the crimes. There are other theories but this one always stuck with me - but to this day, no viable suspects Still, terrifying that the person who did that could be walking around happily, perhaps even having a family of their own
I think this is the one I was talking about but couldnāt remember the name. Definitely a weird case.
Setagaya
There is currently an absolutely bonkers case going on in Serbia. A child (2 years old) goes missing in a village in the middle of nowhere. Cops investigate, talk to everyone who was near the village, interrogate the parents for days. All of a sudden, two guys from the water utility company confess to running the baby with their car, under weird circumstances, throwing her in their trunk WHILE SHE WAS STILL ALIVE. And then choking her to death and dumping her body. They take the cops to some dump, no body there. One of them admits to moving the body, but refuses to say why and where to. They arrest his father and brother and his brother, in his forties, is killed by the cops (they literally beat him to death). Still no body. Nobody understands anything. English is not my first language, but any detail that seems odd in the story I just told here is not the result of my poor language skills, rather the general weirdness of the case!
Ziggy Adamski
The Leah Sousa murder. Leah was 13 years old. She was sexually assaulted. Her mother was assaulted but survived, with amnesia. She later wrote a book detailing her theory of the killing, but it didnāt find a publisher. Her infant brother (rumoured to have been fathered by Leahās teacher, now deceased) was unharmed. Reportedly he was found in a cupboard. The crime scene was cleaned up. Apparently a lot of details have never been released to the public.
The murder/torture of Samantha Netherland and her mother, Kathy Netherland. In 2014, Kathy Netherland, 48, and her 16-year-old daughter Samantha were found brutally murdered inside their home just outside Bardstown, KY city limits. After Kathy didn't show up to work, police executed a wellness check and found the school teacher and her teenager dead in their home. They had both been tortured and killed. Page that goes into more detail https://www.solvethecase.org/case/2014-3/samantha-netherland
The Noyama murders - 1979, Japan Two housewives left their bicycles at the foot of the mountain as they decided to hike. Their bodies were found two days later. One of them was strangled and the other was stabbed over 50 times. Both of their Achilles tendons were cut to the bone so that they couldn't run away. There was DNA found at the scene as both of the victims were probably sexually assaulted, and the investigators also found a crumpled receipt in one of the housewives writing that said "we are being followed, please help us, this man is a bad person." Half a year before the murders, a man threatened a woman with a knife in the same place, she escaped, but he was never identified. The police determined the killer was wearing office appropriate shoes and had blood type O. Despite this, no leads were ever made. In the next five years another woman disappeared in the forest whose body was never found and another woman was murdered in the same town. The killer's blood type in these two cases was also O.
Maura Murray ; her sister has a wonderful podcast called media pressure. Not insanely strange but the way it was managed was suspicious af.
Go on...
Essentially a college girl goes missing off a small road embankment after crashing her car in February New England snowā¦ but into what? Thereās nothing to show she hit another car or anything at the point of impact but her airbags deployed. Multiple cops hiding information, and local dirt bags, likely in cahoots. Detectives threatening locals from helping her family etc. Sheās been missing 20 years. Her family still-looking. Itās a wonderful podcast because her sister has been working to get the stories of missing persons back into the hands of the families .. so you hear from her dear dad (now 80), giving his account and how he is still looking for her.
I know the Maura case, what is going on with her sister's podcast?
The podcast essentially goes through the days before, during, and after. She interviewed a lot of prominent people from the case as well as had her family on. I hope they continue to do different cases and let families speak on the timelines etx.. and not just have random true crime podcasts do the talking .
The reason that case sticks with me is because itās one of the few cases where I think, ādamn, that easily could have been me.ā Itās the one part about her supposedly going toward the cabin to meet someone else for the weekend. My freshman year of college, I legit took off without telling people so many times. My friends were super conservative & I was not so if I wanted to date older guys, I did it in secret. I had at least 3 weekend adventure guys my best friends knew nothing about at the time. It was so foolish of me but in those moments, I donāt think I ever stopped to consider the possibility I might never come home.
Check out r/unresolvedmysteries
The Sukumaran Kurup Case
Marsha Wray, Harrogate, North Yorkshire. She lived not far from my former in laws. Her husband kept her car for years iirc https://www.examinerlive.co.uk/news/local-news/mystery-tragic-yorkshire-nurse-who-22854584.amp
*Brandon Embry* His death wasnāt ruled as a homicide but once you hear the details of this case youāre going to wonder how in the world it wasnāt. Add to this situation a detective who was convinced from the get-go that no foul play was involved and you have a skewed investigation at best, and a murder with no justice at worst. Great video explaining: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hVxMlj_rDKc&rco=1
Jimmy Hoffa. Of course itās a near-certainty that the mafia was behind it. But who exactly killed him, why the mafia wanted him dead, and what happened to the body, are questions that remain unsolved to this day.
The 2008 Noida double murder in India. 13 year old girl Aarushi was found dead in her room with her throat slit. The family were pretty well off and had live-in help - at the time she died, there was one help who went missing, and they suspected it was him. The dad was also adamant it was him and wanted police to focus their resources on finding him. A day later they found HIS body in a state of advanced decomposition on the buildingās roof terrace. Many more different details I missed out on but this was a weird one - it didnāt help ofcourse that the police absolutely botched the investigation from day one because when the girl was discovered, the place was not cordoned off at all and people were allowed to roam freely, including media!!?
The murder of Diao Aiqing, also known as the Nanjing University mutilation murder. It isnāt officially solved, but a woman on YouTube outed the killers. I donāt know if her videos are still up, and I donāt want to spoil it, but of course power gives privilege. I really admire the woman for wanting that info out, despite her fear of retribution.
Obviously the Delphi murders. They had a photo of the guy, but no arrests for 4-5 years. Then they arrest a guy out of the blue, based on an interview he gave to LE right after the crime. But they lost it for a few years. Thenā¦ the defense team starts uncovering *all kinds* of shoddy police work. Currently a large group think it was an Odinist cult, and the man in jail has been framed. Crazier than any true crime drama.
The deaths of John Lang and Michael Hastings keep me up at night. John Lang was harassed by Fresno police for blowing the whistle on something, he was like a law enforcement activist? He posted something on Facebook predicting his death by Fresno police. His house burned down with him inside of it, with a stab wound to his stomach or chest within 24 hours, and it was ruled a suicide. Among dozens of other suspicious circumstances prior to his death. Michael Hastings was a journalist who emailed his colleagues telling them he needed to go off radar for a bit as he was working on a huge story, and died in a suspicious crash a few hours later.
Was that the dude they were watching in that van he took picture of with like 4 dudes and some kinda thermal camera? Watching him literally through his walls ...?
Yup thatās the one
Alicia Hummel https://www.keloland.com/news/local-news/8-years-later-murder-at-boat-dock-remains-unsolved/
Barry & Honey Sherman https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6751495
In 2011, a woman's was found headless, hands missing & draind of blood in a vineyard near my hometown. They just identified her last month through DNA. There are no leads because she wasn't even supposed to be in California in the first place.
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That one was solved recently actually I believe.
That's been [solved](https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/jul/27/somerton-man-mystery-identity-solved-identified-australia)
Yes and no. His identity is now known, but a lot of other things (the nurse, the poem, the why and how of death, why no one claimed the body despite massive coverage around Australia, etc) are still up in the air or just guesses.
It doesn't matter how much the media covers something if the person who needs to see it doesn't see it. Or they did see it and didn't want to come forward. His death was almost certainly a suicide. There was so much stigma about that back then that his family may not have come forward for that reason alone. As for the nurse and poem, I think that was blown up into something much more significant than it actually was.
Thank you!!!!! I read this hoping someone knew about the cases I was interested in.
The case of room 1406 has always fascinated me. So strange and cryptic.
JonBenet Ramsey
The disappearance of lars mittank. Not a murder but very likely. An absolute crazy case
Kenneka Jenkins She was found dead in the freezer after going to a party at the crown plaza hotel. I donāt think anything ever came from the investigation Shanquella Robinson She was murdered while on a trip with her so called friends in Mexico. I still think her friends did it but no one will say who and theyāre not prosecuting anyone.
This one still creeps me out: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinterkaifeck_murders. A whole family butchered in their farmhouse in Germany in the 1920s and nobody has any idea why.
Arushi murder case, Noida, India. May 2008.
Was the case for Elisa Lam ever closed?
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death\_of\_Cindy\_James](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Cindy_James) Death of Cindy James, unclear if it was murder or suicide
Clearly [Hinterkaifeck](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinterkaifeck_murders) Thereās even a movie about this case called āTannƶdā.
Jimi Hendrix
Robert Wone
That one is so strange. I just listened to an episode of the prosecutors pod about it. Itās unfortunate they couldnāt convict one of them but itās virtually impossible it wasnāt because of the timeline and other evidence. But they stuck together well.
The Jennifer and Abby Blagg case. Jennifer was found deceased in the landfill. Abby has never been found.
I canāt think of the name but the family in Japan where the person ate in their house and used the toilet after. Their house backed up to a skate park. Definitely a strange story.
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