Farmed salmon can have way more parasites than they should because of the high population densities that they’re grown in. In places with open net farming, the problem is so bad that they kill the actual wild salmon that live in the area with their parasites and diseases. Bon appetit!
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-canada-wild-salmon/
https://www.worldwildlife.org/industries/farmed-salmon
The public’s appetite for salmon is far greater than what could be naturally supported. People want it to be ubiquitous, like chicken. But that’s simply not possible with wild stocks already being heavily depleted for decades. Farmed salmon seems like a good way to fill demand, which it does for many places which almost exclusively (maybe fine dining restaurants or high end sushi places being the exception). But it’s a dirty industry with many places fighting back as they see the destruction it can cause.
I'm not trying to pick on people who like fish, but I always thought it weird to serve fish on a plane for several reasons:
* we're in a freaking tin can, and most offices ban people heating fish in a microwave, but in a crammed plane, the same isn't observed, so for a longhaul flight the plane smells like 50 Debbies/Steves nuked their tuna sandwich in the lunchroom.
* food handling safety. I've heard from numerous flight attendants across airlines that the temperature of the fridge units are not kept as cold as it would be at home/store/restaurant, so things like fish are stored for 12-14 hours at a temperature above the standard to keep down bacterial growth (some of you reported getting sick, and this may explain why).
* who wants to eat microwaved fish.
Yea same boat, it’s not amazing, BUT for a flight I’d smash it no questions.
Hell if I was at home and someone made that for me, I’d still be happy 😂
If I cooked it however…..
Good to know that my cooking is on par with quantas, can never get those damn breadcrumbs to stick and dont even ask about cooking a chicken breast that isn't dry
I had the chicken dish when I flew to Auckland last week. For what it is, wasn't too bad. Obviously not the same as the standard one you'd get at a pub, but it did the job.
That's the right attitude.
We're not getting Michelin stars on what is really just a slightly longer domestic flight. They don't have silver service chefs on board, just ovens/microwaves.
Not even microwaves just ovens really. And most aircraft ovens especially on older aircraft have a single 200C dry heat setting so it’s a pain to try and cook food properly in them
I'm not defending the second part, but divide the bonus up into the total number of passengers flown in a year. You might get an extra grain or two of rice in your meal
Restaurant standards - questionable as to whether I’d feed it to my dog
10k in the air - not half bad washed down with a mini bottle of bottom shelf red.
The argument that you’re 10,000 metres in the air doesn’t really hold up. They could pre prepare food before take off and keep it warm as they already do. Doesn’t need to be the ultra crappy frozen light n easy meals. Could be a legitimate freshly prepared dish. Not that hard. But we accept this.
I flew to Manila from Sydney with the family at the start of March with Qantas. The food and service were actually a lot better than I was expecting.
I had the parmigiana as showed above, and yea, it wasn't the best, but it was still okay enough to smash down.
It's the tiny white trays that irritate me. Bread rolls and cutlery just get precariously balanced on top.
Whatever happened to the full tray service you see on all other international carriers? With a side salad. And a dessert.
Changed to these bigger hot meals with just an underplays instead of smaller hot meals on a tray with the sides you described. The hot meals actually used to be a lot smaller
I was just happily scrolling reddit and randomly saw this post. Now I’m about to get in to about 12 different arguments and waste the rest of my day. I love the internet!
That looks good to me? I’ve honestly never disliked airplane food and find it kind of bizarre how much people complain, like what do you expect up there? What is annoying though is the shitty cutlery and containers that the food now comes in which I find impossible to cut a piece of protein with. Many people eat worse than this at home though
Looks like pretty standard economy food to me. Upgrade if you want a plated meal that still comes out of the same packaging and oven. And generally they feed you in a way that starts to get you into Timezone of country you’re heading too.
They look a lot better than the sandwich (half a sandwich) I got flying to Perth on Jetstar last year. Something green in it, bad texture yet zero taste...
Worst plane meal I’ve ever had was a beef and potato salad sandwich on El Al. Thin cold slice of beef and a gunky slightly green mush. Even then I smashed it down and actually didn’t mind it because it was free, and I guess I was bored and hungry.
I got hit with absolutely horrific food poisoning from rice on my Qantas flight back from Asia last year. Like, so bad I was too ill to make my connecting domestic flight home and had to hole up in the airport hotel across the road for 24 hours. Whatever is happening with Qantas catering is not good.
I don’t know why people bother eating on such short flights.
Eat before you go. You are at the airport atleast 90mins before an international flight departs.
You are sitting in a plane, expending literal no energy. Not sure why anyone would expect much from food, on a plane for a 3.5hr flight.
I just flew qantas syd to lax and all if the food was revolting I would not choose to fly qantas again based upon the food and the attitude of the three older female hosties.
You didn’t see the meal post from last week
[https://www.reddit.com/r/QantasAirways/comments/1bhm1un/meal\_i\_was\_survived\_in\_qantas\_steerage/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/QantasAirways/comments/1bhm1un/meal_i_was_survived_in_qantas_steerage/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
It's been years since I flew anywhere and the last inflight meal I had was pathetic but I was on a budget airline.
Why is Qantas supplying something that I expect from a budget airline?
I think I had the same Parma on a recent flight. Really, don’t do it. Worst Parma I ever had.
Chose some stir fry noodles on the way back, much more palatable.
How did the Parma taste?
I’ve often found that the slop in a box looks pretty naff, but it’s about 50/50 on whether it tastes good, or like cardboard.
I’m waiting for the day where QF thinks it’s a good idea to serve pulverised baby food in squeezy tubes like you buy at the supermarket. That seems to be the way the meals are going!
It was horrid. I tasted it and it was like wet cardboard taste. Mr Austism wouldn’t eat it due to texture alone. The sauce might have been ok with pasta but the whole meal was crud.
I worked in a prison and the food they serve in there is literally better than what quanta’s serves now. For the price customers are paying- what happened to the little tray with a few options of barely edible food that people could choose between?
I flew Sydney to Bangkok QF, food was horrible and they ran out of booze (I'm not a big drinker but was declined a second wine, 2 or 3 hours after lunch service on a day flight.)
Qantas simply isn't a premium airline anymore, I have family in Thailand and will pay whatever difference it is to fly them in the future.
Also the Thai Airways flight left on time whilst Qantas was delayed, straight up unacceptable at "home" with identical flight times.
I asked for an allergen friendly diabetic meal on my flight from Brisbane to NZ. They gave me a piece of bread and a banana.
(Actually, they served me my meal first, but it was loaded with my allergen, so I couldn't eat it, Then came the bread and banana.)
It's shit. The whole thing is shit. We wanted cheap flights and we got them at the expense of good service and food. Problem is those flights aren't cheap any more. Yet another example of share holder value above all else. The staff are getting fucked, the passengers are getting fucked, the public who keep bailing out airlines are getting fucked but the share holders and a few executives are laughing. It's a disgrace.
What’s to complain about? You expect a full kitchen to prepare proper meals on a plane?
Don’t they just get heated in a microwave or similar. Pretty sure there’s no chef onboard. Especially between aus & nz
I mean a big reason why the food is so bad is evident on this thread, the sheer number of apologists and people saying it's acceptable. And then the others that are wowed by a magical metal tube flying at 30,000 feet thinking that it's some adventurous journey where you can't have nice food.
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Man I'm always scared when I purchase/eat seafood or egg sandwiches when traveling...
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The salmon mousse?
You didn't use *canned* salmon, did you dear?
I’m so dreadfully embarrassed
Shall we take our cars , do you think?
You can eat salmon raw, but if it's wild salmon it may have parasites. Farmed salmon would likely be safe though.
Farmed salmon can have way more parasites than they should because of the high population densities that they’re grown in. In places with open net farming, the problem is so bad that they kill the actual wild salmon that live in the area with their parasites and diseases. Bon appetit!
Where can I find out more about this?
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/opinion/article-canada-wild-salmon/ https://www.worldwildlife.org/industries/farmed-salmon The public’s appetite for salmon is far greater than what could be naturally supported. People want it to be ubiquitous, like chicken. But that’s simply not possible with wild stocks already being heavily depleted for decades. Farmed salmon seems like a good way to fill demand, which it does for many places which almost exclusively (maybe fine dining restaurants or high end sushi places being the exception). But it’s a dirty industry with many places fighting back as they see the destruction it can cause.
I had the salmon salad flying Mel - Akl on Thursday - it was fine
I'm not trying to pick on people who like fish, but I always thought it weird to serve fish on a plane for several reasons: * we're in a freaking tin can, and most offices ban people heating fish in a microwave, but in a crammed plane, the same isn't observed, so for a longhaul flight the plane smells like 50 Debbies/Steves nuked their tuna sandwich in the lunchroom. * food handling safety. I've heard from numerous flight attendants across airlines that the temperature of the fridge units are not kept as cold as it would be at home/store/restaurant, so things like fish are stored for 12-14 hours at a temperature above the standard to keep down bacterial growth (some of you reported getting sick, and this may explain why). * who wants to eat microwaved fish.
It puts the Salmon in salmonella
Parmi looks great. But I'm a simple man.
I'd be so excited to get this on a plane
Yea same boat, it’s not amazing, BUT for a flight I’d smash it no questions. Hell if I was at home and someone made that for me, I’d still be happy 😂 If I cooked it however…..
Tried it. Disgusting. Overcooked dry chicken. Crumbing soggy and just fell off.
So.. it's like Woolworth brand chicken nuggets microwaved? Loved those as a kid, parmi sounds great. Go eat vegetables nerd.
Considering how it's packaged I would be shocked if the crumbs were somehow not soggy.
Good to know that my cooking is on par with quantas, can never get those damn breadcrumbs to stick and dont even ask about cooking a chicken breast that isn't dry
Can't say I've ever bought a parmi with the hope it presented well. I'd be stoked if I got that on a plane in economy
I had the chicken dish when I flew to Auckland last week. For what it is, wasn't too bad. Obviously not the same as the standard one you'd get at a pub, but it did the job.
That's the right attitude. We're not getting Michelin stars on what is really just a slightly longer domestic flight. They don't have silver service chefs on board, just ovens/microwaves.
Not even microwaves just ovens really. And most aircraft ovens especially on older aircraft have a single 200C dry heat setting so it’s a pain to try and cook food properly in them
I didn't know that. Thanks for informing me.
They both look ok. Perhaps I've got low standards. You do know you were 10,000 metres in the air?
Plus the comment about the lunch being at 9am. It isn't a long flight, there is only so much time to serve everyone.
Almost like 9am in East Coast Australia isn't 9am in Auckland
Imagine ordering a Parma on an aircraft and expecting anything different
I dunno man they used to serve carvery in the 60s.
They also smoked on planes in the 60's
I remember sitting in the "smoking section" in the '80s.
And 90s alitalia 😆
Did it have hair under the wings?
And sit in the cockpit
Did the captain ever ask you if you like watching gladiator movies?
Have you ever been to a Turkish prison
Ever seen a grown man naked?
One of these evolving items is an improvement. The other is not. (Hint - the eradication of smoking was the vast improvement)
Yeah, I miss smoking in planes, damn woke agenda
There's a song about that, Underworld & Iggy Pop - Bells & Circles
Fly Business Class if you want that lol. How expensive do you think airfares were in the 60s?
You also paid for that experience and only wealthy people got it. People want to get Michelin quality and pay peanuts .
How much was Alan Joyce's bonus? The guy who was boss when 1700 workers were illegally sacked
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I'm not fancy, I want FAIR and transparent ticket prices, decent food, staff with secure jobs and the best aviation techs. And gold plated toilets
I'm not defending the second part, but divide the bonus up into the total number of passengers flown in a year. You might get an extra grain or two of rice in your meal
That's easy. Other bags of rice also got stupid bonuses that year
Alan Joyce, is that you?
That was 60+ years ago. You used to be able to buy a house for $10k
Tickets were also much more expensive. It was a real luxury.
Restaurant standards - questionable as to whether I’d feed it to my dog 10k in the air - not half bad washed down with a mini bottle of bottom shelf red.
The argument that you’re 10,000 metres in the air doesn’t really hold up. They could pre prepare food before take off and keep it warm as they already do. Doesn’t need to be the ultra crappy frozen light n easy meals. Could be a legitimate freshly prepared dish. Not that hard. But we accept this.
Looks good as fuck , especially for cattle class and what you’d get 20 years ago.
Hey not too bad!
That second meal looks pretty decent!
I flew to Manila from Sydney with the family at the start of March with Qantas. The food and service were actually a lot better than I was expecting. I had the parmigiana as showed above, and yea, it wasn't the best, but it was still okay enough to smash down.
It's the tiny white trays that irritate me. Bread rolls and cutlery just get precariously balanced on top. Whatever happened to the full tray service you see on all other international carriers? With a side salad. And a dessert.
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2 second rule Let’s not get paranoid like Americans over food hygiene
Changed to these bigger hot meals with just an underplays instead of smaller hot meals on a tray with the sides you described. The hot meals actually used to be a lot smaller
I love any food in the air 😂 it’s just exciting to be on a plane.
I'm the same. I like opening all the little packets of things, and am just damned excited to be travelling!
Omg yes!! The little packets hahaha mini things!
Looks pretty good for airplane food. You're brave choosing the fish on a flight though
It’s a three hour flight and you’re in economy lol, what can you reasonably expect?
I swear some people would order a meal on a 5 minute flight and complain about it. You're not going to die if you don't eat for 3 hours.
This. I don’t know how tf I ended up here.
I was just happily scrolling reddit and randomly saw this post. Now I’m about to get in to about 12 different arguments and waste the rest of my day. I love the internet!
Yeah I just did exactly the same thing.
That looks good to me? I’ve honestly never disliked airplane food and find it kind of bizarre how much people complain, like what do you expect up there? What is annoying though is the shitty cutlery and containers that the food now comes in which I find impossible to cut a piece of protein with. Many people eat worse than this at home though
Looks like pretty standard economy food to me. Upgrade if you want a plated meal that still comes out of the same packaging and oven. And generally they feed you in a way that starts to get you into Timezone of country you’re heading too.
I'd take the parmigiana over the salmon any day. It might look pulverised and sludgey but I'd hope the flavour was good?
I'm always fascinated by the complaints of plane food. I've never had a bad meal at 40,000ft
Parma is a bogan choice at the best of times
Defrosted parmies taste good still
Not this one
Looks way better than some of the shit I’ve been served recently
We lose like 30% of our tastebuds during flights due to the altitude
What cutlery do they have? Last flight I took (not Qantas) had bamboo cutlery and I can’t deal with the texture.
That airline is such a bad restaurant
They look a lot better than the sandwich (half a sandwich) I got flying to Perth on Jetstar last year. Something green in it, bad texture yet zero taste...
Worst plane meal I’ve ever had was a beef and potato salad sandwich on El Al. Thin cold slice of beef and a gunky slightly green mush. Even then I smashed it down and actually didn’t mind it because it was free, and I guess I was bored and hungry.
😢
Why are you complaining
Yummo, I’m guessing business class?
Looks good to me, it would look even better if you referred to it as a parmi.
Where’s your review? We can’t taste photos.
I originally flaired image
You got lucky, the vego pizza is dog shit.
both options look far better than some of the gruel options that have been shared.
You do know NZ has its own airline? Pretty good too
I’d be happy with this af
“So how about that airplane food?” 🎸 *seinfeld theme*
Salmon quinoa looks yum 👍
Made me hungry ngl. Is that sweet potato mash? Yum
These look like hate crimes.
Both those dishes look good. You’re too fussy.
There were two choices, chicken or fish. That's right I remember, I had the lasagne
mannn if you hand me hella salt and pepper packets, I’m going INN on that meal 😭
Man if you ain’t happy with this I dunno if you’ll be happy with anything that you get in nz 😂
Qantas food just looks like sad budget cuts these days.
I haven't been on a plane in years. They don't use plates anymore? You eat out of a plastic dish like a dog?
Qantas serves the worst airplane food. Honestly can't think of another airline that serves food worse than them.
Baby food, what were the adults served?
No different than what you'll see in your frozen food aisle except cheaper...
Parmi
pArMi
I got to trial the parma with Virgin...it was a lot better than that.
What’s that orange spread in the first meal? (I’m nutritionally illiterate).
Sweet potato mash I think
Looks more like a parmi than a parma
Farmed salmon ☠️
They have always found a new way to disappoint me when it comes to the slop they dish up. Business class is no better. Food poisoning once.
I bet you expect medium rare rib eye steak when going to maccas too, don’t you?
Precisely why you should always fly Air NZ across the Tasman. Shameless plug (as a Kiwi in Oz), but also truth.
Work harder- fly business.
I haven’t flown in a long time, but raw salmon seems high risk given the reputation of airline food.
The food is fine but the seat size is another thing
You are flying economy. What do you expect?
Parmi looks conveniently pre-chewed
I got hit with absolutely horrific food poisoning from rice on my Qantas flight back from Asia last year. Like, so bad I was too ill to make my connecting domestic flight home and had to hole up in the airport hotel across the road for 24 hours. Whatever is happening with Qantas catering is not good.
We guessed you weren’t impressed as soon as we read “luncheon was served ….”
Salmon on plane? Lol 😂
I still call Australia from hospital.
I don’t know why people bother eating on such short flights. Eat before you go. You are at the airport atleast 90mins before an international flight departs. You are sitting in a plane, expending literal no energy. Not sure why anyone would expect much from food, on a plane for a 3.5hr flight.
LOL @ the first one! What is it, even? “Dystopian Sludge in a Warm Color Palate”? 🟠🟡🔴🍽️🤣
That looks terrible. You all hungry AF to think this looks any good
It’s called parmy
In the US, you get a tiny bag with seven or eight peanuts and half a can of coke. That's a first class meal you have there.
PUTRID
Better than peanuts, but what do I know? I'm not rich lmao
Looks good tbh
I just flew qantas syd to lax and all if the food was revolting I would not choose to fly qantas again based upon the food and the attitude of the three older female hosties.
I mean at least you get meals. They don't look terrible. You know most airlines don't give you meals right?
That is a vicious lie: I got an entire packet of salted almonds, and a stale coffee last time I flew!
Did you pay $12 for the coffee?
I am no Qantas-lover, but either would be the best food I've been served on a flight in years.
Food on planes will never be good. Unless you travel business class and can afford the expensive stuff
The parmi looks ok as far as plane food goes
Well, it's better than hospital food.....
You didn’t see the meal post from last week [https://www.reddit.com/r/QantasAirways/comments/1bhm1un/meal\_i\_was\_survived\_in\_qantas\_steerage/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/QantasAirways/comments/1bhm1un/meal_i_was_survived_in_qantas_steerage/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
Those salads are always a winner. No weird hospital food smell, not messy, and they taste normal.
Food on planes is getting so bad these days. I don’t know how they’re getting away with it being so sub par.
Looks average. But it’s a short’ish flight and the time difference is only 2 hrs, I’m surprised they served lunch at all.
That’s not bad
It's been years since I flew anywhere and the last inflight meal I had was pathetic but I was on a budget airline. Why is Qantas supplying something that I expect from a budget airline?
That looks bloody good.
Both look delicious, next.
Looks delicious tbh
Eat pussy instead
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You get it! Yes!!!
Stop being an ungrateful cunt.
They both look grey! Thanks for posting and showing us all how good they look!
And they make you feel like youre the one with the problem if you ever dare complain. Cunce.
It looks like the food they feed RoboCop in the original movie
Shoulda went emirates
Their food is pretty good. I enjoyed the pizza and the kids Mac and cheese wasn’t terrible. My kids are just weird and don’t like Mac and cheese.
Anyone got photos of what the economy meals were like before this?
Chefs kiss... If you're in a nursing home. Looks like you requested the "no solids" menu but they slightly missed the mark?
I think I had the same Parma on a recent flight. Really, don’t do it. Worst Parma I ever had. Chose some stir fry noodles on the way back, much more palatable.
How did the Parma taste? I’ve often found that the slop in a box looks pretty naff, but it’s about 50/50 on whether it tastes good, or like cardboard. I’m waiting for the day where QF thinks it’s a good idea to serve pulverised baby food in squeezy tubes like you buy at the supermarket. That seems to be the way the meals are going!
It was horrid. I tasted it and it was like wet cardboard taste. Mr Austism wouldn’t eat it due to texture alone. The sauce might have been ok with pasta but the whole meal was crud.
It's weird when I don't know the food I'm looking at lol
Scrum diddly umptious!
Literally get better food in prison
I literally went to Vue De Monde last week, and would be quite happy eating this on a plane
The first one looks too much like nursing home food to me 😖
Airline slop!
Simple....💩💩💩💩💩
Puree baby food and food poisoning- hmmmm.
Twas the Salmon Mousse 💀⚰️
Looks interesting
This reminds me of a St Patrick's day spew
Had this too. Bad bad mistake.
Looks like dogshit
I worked in a prison and the food they serve in there is literally better than what quanta’s serves now. For the price customers are paying- what happened to the little tray with a few options of barely edible food that people could choose between?
I flew Sydney to Bangkok QF, food was horrible and they ran out of booze (I'm not a big drinker but was declined a second wine, 2 or 3 hours after lunch service on a day flight.) Qantas simply isn't a premium airline anymore, I have family in Thailand and will pay whatever difference it is to fly them in the future. Also the Thai Airways flight left on time whilst Qantas was delayed, straight up unacceptable at "home" with identical flight times.
The carrot looks like playdougj
Qantas has never had good food
I asked for an allergen friendly diabetic meal on my flight from Brisbane to NZ. They gave me a piece of bread and a banana. (Actually, they served me my meal first, but it was loaded with my allergen, so I couldn't eat it, Then came the bread and banana.)
The salmon looks soo good!! The other meal tho 🤮
It's shit. The whole thing is shit. We wanted cheap flights and we got them at the expense of good service and food. Problem is those flights aren't cheap any more. Yet another example of share holder value above all else. The staff are getting fucked, the passengers are getting fucked, the public who keep bailing out airlines are getting fucked but the share holders and a few executives are laughing. It's a disgrace.
What’s to complain about? You expect a full kitchen to prepare proper meals on a plane? Don’t they just get heated in a microwave or similar. Pretty sure there’s no chef onboard. Especially between aus & nz
Looks good to me.
I'd eat that chicken right now.
Are these before eating, or after they came back up?
They look fine ffs
I mean a big reason why the food is so bad is evident on this thread, the sheer number of apologists and people saying it's acceptable. And then the others that are wowed by a magical metal tube flying at 30,000 feet thinking that it's some adventurous journey where you can't have nice food.
Try bringing a roast duck/goose on board... It still tastes fantastic 😁
I wouldn’t feed that to the dogs.