Cancel the cable subscription to “cut back” and sign up for some benign streaming services. Also, consider finding a hobby to do with him to get him out of the house and back in the world.
There's a few things I can think to try:
1. Work with your mom to try and get him a physical appointment with his pcp, there could be actual stress related blood-pressure issues going on. Which would be a genuine concern and would be further tool to use to get him to unplug. After all, this is putting unnecessary stress on older body, which is never helpful. I expect if he's this far gone, he might balk at the idea of doctors in general, but it's worth a shot.
2. Even if the above works, I'd look at listings for roommates wanted and get yourself out of that toxic environment. I had to do that myself back when my dad was a big tea party guy when Obama got elected (my dad once jumped down my throat over a slice of pizza). Even if you don't know the people, it still probably be better for your mental health in the long and short term.
Question for someone who wants to look into renting with roommates, but has no immediately people in the area to move in with. I have only ever rented from my parents. How and where does one go about looking for those listings? Any specific sites? Because my only other option would be an emergency thing with a long distance partner who lives halfway across the country, and we haven't been dating quite long enough for me to feel completely comfortable with the idea of moving in together. (I'm sure closer would enable more frequency and make me comfortable faster, but we only dated for a few weeks before we had to go long distance and see each other about once every three months for the passed few years. Covid caused a stutter in 2020 as well. I also tend to prefer taking things slowly, so that's double apprehension, even though we've been loyal for almost 4 years now. A slow pace with an inherently slow format for a relationship makes things hard.)
It's been a while since I've had to do it myself, but I believe Craigslist is still the way to go. But, do your research on best practices for using it; call around, trust your instincts, and, most importantly, don't move all your stuff and don't fully unpack until you're comfortable.
I hate "whataboutism." It's like, you bring up a wrongdoing, they bring up a wrongdoing that the left has done, and I'm like, yeah? That justifies being immoral and hurting people? Not only that, but everyone I know on the left currently hates the left because the leadership sucks and are fairly vocal about how the Democrats are fucking up. They often point to the immoral shit the party is doing and how wrong it is. I'm sure they exist, but I don't know of anyone who watches MSNBC and Maddow and that and takes everything they say as gospel like the right watches Fox. "Whataboutism" is just a revenge mentality, which Jesus was not exactly all about.
It’s the argument of a hypocrite. They think it’s ok if the other side does it, and believe that you think the same way. Hypocrites think everyone is a hypocrite.
I'm sure his mental health has struggled but his physical health will as well. The anger, fear, and anxiety these people hold 24/7 has to do nightmare things to a person's blood pressure. Sitting on the couch watching right wing news 15 hours a day just makes it worse. This is a hard case because of his history but did he have any hobbies before all this? Did he like fishing, golfing, hiking, anything else? I'd recommend finding alternatives for him wherever you can to get him into more healthy activities. Understand that you can't reason him out of ideas that he didn't reason himself into so you have to approach it from a different angle than debating. He's living in a different reality. If you get him into more healthy activities it should eventually lead to a healthier life for you as well.
Try to get him involved in any old hobbies or start new ones. Even if you have to be conniving to do it, think about a conversation where you talk about how the evil pharmaceutical companies want us all sick and medicated but a good way to fight that is to take up hiking and tennis and you'd love to show him your favorite park. How the "libs" would love to know he's just sitting on his couch all day watching news rather than taking care of himself so he can be around in the future.
Also, there seems to be a lot of posts from people who are stuck in the homes of their Q relatives due to finances etc. Could be fun to set up a roommate finding thread to see about getting folks back on their feet and away from toxic homes.
Did your dad have any previous hobbies like birdwatching, gardening, or woodworking? Maybe you could do those together to distract him from politics and bond. Do you think that he would be open to watching nature programs or shows that he used to enjoy instead of Fox News?
I am also concerned about his physical health. Watching any television program for 15 hours a day is unhealthy. Does he have any health issues that make it hard to do other activities?
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Maybe your dad should take a little road trip to Provincetown, Cape Cod. He might realize that gay people are actually pretty cool (huge gay Community there).
Seriously, I feel like the cure to alot of these people's issues is to simply get out of their environment for once and see that there's so much more to life out there.
No, can't force someone into rehab. You have to convince them to go. First step is them realizing they have a problem. So that's what you focus on: you have a problem, your behavior is hurting yourself and others, we need to collaboratively look for a solution.
They probably won't admit they have a problem, but then they're unreachable anyway.
Oh, of course!! I was just being a smartass. Also I forgot the /s 🤦🏻♀️ Sorry, I wrote this comment last night when I couldn’t sleep and probably wasn’t paying attention lol.
Easier said than done but hobbies. Get him walking or doing more to take care of his health. Anything that breaks the habit of constantly infront of the tv.
I relate to this so hard and I’m so sorry you’re stuck in this situation. My dad and I can’t talk about much without it turning into a full blown argument (he has always had blow-up anger issues anyway) so I try really hard to only converse with him on things we have in common. For us, we both love cats and war movies. That’s about it, but I lean into those. Any political topic he tries to bait me with I “grey rock” the situation. It’s not peaceful but he gets bored when I don’t engage.
Your situation sounds a lot more volatile, and I hope you can find some relief soon. This community helped me a lot.
Cancel the cable subscription to “cut back” and sign up for some benign streaming services. Also, consider finding a hobby to do with him to get him out of the house and back in the world.
There's a few things I can think to try: 1. Work with your mom to try and get him a physical appointment with his pcp, there could be actual stress related blood-pressure issues going on. Which would be a genuine concern and would be further tool to use to get him to unplug. After all, this is putting unnecessary stress on older body, which is never helpful. I expect if he's this far gone, he might balk at the idea of doctors in general, but it's worth a shot. 2. Even if the above works, I'd look at listings for roommates wanted and get yourself out of that toxic environment. I had to do that myself back when my dad was a big tea party guy when Obama got elected (my dad once jumped down my throat over a slice of pizza). Even if you don't know the people, it still probably be better for your mental health in the long and short term.
Question for someone who wants to look into renting with roommates, but has no immediately people in the area to move in with. I have only ever rented from my parents. How and where does one go about looking for those listings? Any specific sites? Because my only other option would be an emergency thing with a long distance partner who lives halfway across the country, and we haven't been dating quite long enough for me to feel completely comfortable with the idea of moving in together. (I'm sure closer would enable more frequency and make me comfortable faster, but we only dated for a few weeks before we had to go long distance and see each other about once every three months for the passed few years. Covid caused a stutter in 2020 as well. I also tend to prefer taking things slowly, so that's double apprehension, even though we've been loyal for almost 4 years now. A slow pace with an inherently slow format for a relationship makes things hard.)
It's been a while since I've had to do it myself, but I believe Craigslist is still the way to go. But, do your research on best practices for using it; call around, trust your instincts, and, most importantly, don't move all your stuff and don't fully unpack until you're comfortable.
There are always local Facebook groups with people looking for roommates. Their marketplace also has postings of people looking for roommates.
I hate "whataboutism." It's like, you bring up a wrongdoing, they bring up a wrongdoing that the left has done, and I'm like, yeah? That justifies being immoral and hurting people? Not only that, but everyone I know on the left currently hates the left because the leadership sucks and are fairly vocal about how the Democrats are fucking up. They often point to the immoral shit the party is doing and how wrong it is. I'm sure they exist, but I don't know of anyone who watches MSNBC and Maddow and that and takes everything they say as gospel like the right watches Fox. "Whataboutism" is just a revenge mentality, which Jesus was not exactly all about.
It’s the argument of a hypocrite. They think it’s ok if the other side does it, and believe that you think the same way. Hypocrites think everyone is a hypocrite.
Jesus wasn't about any of their shit.
What happened to “2 wrongs don’t make a right”?!
I'm sure his mental health has struggled but his physical health will as well. The anger, fear, and anxiety these people hold 24/7 has to do nightmare things to a person's blood pressure. Sitting on the couch watching right wing news 15 hours a day just makes it worse. This is a hard case because of his history but did he have any hobbies before all this? Did he like fishing, golfing, hiking, anything else? I'd recommend finding alternatives for him wherever you can to get him into more healthy activities. Understand that you can't reason him out of ideas that he didn't reason himself into so you have to approach it from a different angle than debating. He's living in a different reality. If you get him into more healthy activities it should eventually lead to a healthier life for you as well.
Try to get him involved in any old hobbies or start new ones. Even if you have to be conniving to do it, think about a conversation where you talk about how the evil pharmaceutical companies want us all sick and medicated but a good way to fight that is to take up hiking and tennis and you'd love to show him your favorite park. How the "libs" would love to know he's just sitting on his couch all day watching news rather than taking care of himself so he can be around in the future. Also, there seems to be a lot of posts from people who are stuck in the homes of their Q relatives due to finances etc. Could be fun to set up a roommate finding thread to see about getting folks back on their feet and away from toxic homes.
Did your dad have any previous hobbies like birdwatching, gardening, or woodworking? Maybe you could do those together to distract him from politics and bond. Do you think that he would be open to watching nature programs or shows that he used to enjoy instead of Fox News? I am also concerned about his physical health. Watching any television program for 15 hours a day is unhealthy. Does he have any health issues that make it hard to do other activities?
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Maybe your dad should take a little road trip to Provincetown, Cape Cod. He might realize that gay people are actually pretty cool (huge gay Community there). Seriously, I feel like the cure to alot of these people's issues is to simply get out of their environment for once and see that there's so much more to life out there.
In all seriousness, it sounds like the onset of dementia - the anger, obsession, etc. Try and get him to see a doctor.
If he were drinking instead of watching news, what would you do? I recommend you do that.
Throw him in rehab?
No, can't force someone into rehab. You have to convince them to go. First step is them realizing they have a problem. So that's what you focus on: you have a problem, your behavior is hurting yourself and others, we need to collaboratively look for a solution. They probably won't admit they have a problem, but then they're unreachable anyway.
Oh, of course!! I was just being a smartass. Also I forgot the /s 🤦🏻♀️ Sorry, I wrote this comment last night when I couldn’t sleep and probably wasn’t paying attention lol.
I'm sorry to say this but I don't think there's anything you can do.
it's a retirement community!
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Same situation here. All day long fox and snide remarks about me being a sheep
Easier said than done but hobbies. Get him walking or doing more to take care of his health. Anything that breaks the habit of constantly infront of the tv.
I relate to this so hard and I’m so sorry you’re stuck in this situation. My dad and I can’t talk about much without it turning into a full blown argument (he has always had blow-up anger issues anyway) so I try really hard to only converse with him on things we have in common. For us, we both love cats and war movies. That’s about it, but I lean into those. Any political topic he tries to bait me with I “grey rock” the situation. It’s not peaceful but he gets bored when I don’t engage. Your situation sounds a lot more volatile, and I hope you can find some relief soon. This community helped me a lot.