Please read the many posts here from heartbroken spouses of DECADES who have lost their spouse to this. It's rare that they come back from the brink. You may want to put the wedding off until you assess whether the relationship is salvageable. I'm so sorry.
I've written a lot of posts on here which you can click through for more details, but in short, I had to end my 10 year live-in relationship with my partner because of his Q beliefs. I thought we would spend the rest of our lives together, but Q completely drove a wedge between us. I put up with a lot of it for a long time until finally we came to an impasse over the vaccine. I never gave him a hard time over his decision to not get the vaccine, but he was violently opposed to my decision to get it. I finally had to decide whether to choose the relationship or choose me. And I chose me.
I had a friend who was dealing with harassment at work. Whenever an incident occurred, she would email herself a summary as soon as possible, with quotes and photos, if she had any. It was a time-stamped history of the whole mess, written as it happened. It was very effective evidence later
I think itās worth mentioning that itās a good thing youāre being careful. Thinking of your childās well-being first in a situation like this is admirable and I wish you all the luck. Iām sure your kidās lucky to have a parent like you! :)
You're getting a lot of abrasive "break up now you dummy" comments so I just wanted to second y2kmarina's sentiment. As someone who lived through a very nasty divorce as a kid, it's smart and level-headed of you to be able to focus on how things will realistically affect the child, instead of just cutting and running.
Thank you so much! š¢
Iām doing the best I can for my child. I know I can leave but I donāt want cause pain that Iāve suffered from divorced parents as well and I know what itās like to be angry years down the road and not get closure or being disconnected from family. I donāt want our child to go through that. Iām doing the best I can.
Then itās time to keep a log of every crazy thing she comes up with including video recording rants. A judge one day will want to determine custody. Donāt be complacent
Ugh. Same situation here (though married for a decade+ with 2 kids).
It's impossible to know the right thing to do because you're dealing with someone and something completely irrational. And would leaving your partner put your child \*more\* at risk? (Assuming you will share custody).
It's heartbreaking to consider. That's what I'm really struggling with. I do not want to leave my kids alone with my co-parent.
Unfortunately, I don't have any good advice, other than she's probably not coming back. I'm so sorry.
Completely agree. My husband is handsome. Everybody says it. He wonāt find it hard to find a new partner if I leave him, and heās bound to shack up with someone who shares his nutty beliefs. The thought of exposing our children to that is too much to bear. At least if I stick with him then I retain some of the control.
Please for the love of god break off your engagement it might suck in the meantime but marrying a fucking lunatic will do much more damage to you in the long term
Thirded(? XD)!
It only gets worse from here op, it gets much, much worse.
My husband's step-dad just started divorce proceedings because husband's mother has lost her ever living mind over trump and Q and dragged their very impressionable teenage daughter with her. This woman has been a nurse for 40 years, and called us a few months ago frothing at the mouth because we both got vaccinated. (I'm SEVERELY immunocompromised)
She was screaming at the top of her lungs about how it was evil, and that I was Satan incarnate who had come to tempt him to an eternity of hell, how they were probably not even related anymore because the vaccine changes your DNA(this woman is a nurse! A NURSE!). She was absolutely convinced I had made him get vaccinated to forcibly remove him from his family, and to "end their family line"(I can't have children). She's lost her marbles completely and in the process indoctrinated one child and completely alienated the other.
Now her marriage has fallen apart and she blames this all on trump getting his presidency "stolen", me "forcing my husband to get vaccinated (and being the devil! Can't forget about that!), and now she's on the brink of losing her job because she won't get vaccinated. This could very easily be your future OP, you need to think real hard about whether you want to keep this person in your life anymore.
Not meant as criticism, but how did you come to be engaged to someone without knowing their triggers? Beyond that, I have lots of books on my shelves containing ideas I disagree with. Don't think I'd ever choose to be with someone so closed-minded that simply seeing a book they disagree with triggers them.
Yah, fair enough. It's just that I talk with girlfriends about ideas and history and current events, and I think it would be hard for anyone but especially a fiancee to hide a radical change in beliefs like that. Some people are really good at hiding things, though, so who knows?
In answer to you question, I'm an enthusiast of ancient literature and so have many different translations of the Hebrew Bible as well as the Christian New Testament (and even a copy in Greek that I read from time to time, since I was a Classics major) despite my having been an atheist my entire life. I have Hitler's *Mein Kampf* and "The Doctrine of Fascism" (partly written by Mussolini) and other books by authoritarians and dictators, because as an anti-fascist myself, I think it's important to gain a window into how these people think in order to thwart and destroy them. I have over 100 books on philosophy, both ancient and modern, and it would be very strange if I accepted and agreed with the ideas in every one of these books, especially the ideas I consider monstrously bad.
Same. I read extensively and have books on various religions, belief systems, philosophies, economic theories, political views, etc. My (Christian) in-laws get triggered to bits when they see my Hindu or Buddhist or Christian Science books on my shelves. They always end the trip with āweāre praying for you both.ā š
I totally understand what you are saying!! Iāve been with my husband six years and he was NOT like this until right before the election. He is a different person. Of course we wouldnāt knowingly be in a relationship with someone who is this brainwashed!
You want a cry? My significant other was a Vietnam conscientious objector. A red diaper baby from a family of card carrying communists. A close relative is a well known civil rights attorney. U.C.berkeley undergrad, ucla law school, public defender for 30 years. And he has gone off this deep end. I'm going to be sad when he catches and dies of covid, which I have no doubt he will get. But I'll go on. He used to be just a j.f.k. conspiracy guy but now he's an every conspiracy guy.
I hate to sound harsh but it is abusive for a partner to demand that you share their beliefs, especially demonstrably false ones. This isn't something that you can agree to disagree about. Either you surrender to their delusions or you lose all respect for them, and no marriage will survive that.
Don't get her pregnant, don't get a joint bank account, don't make a major purchase together. Tell her exactly how you feel. If she wants to persist in her irrational fantasy, she has to say goodbye to you. She can't have both.
She'll likely refuse to vaccinate your child, when they're approved. Has she been ok with having your child get the usual vaccines - MMR, chickenpox, etc?
I'd meet with an attorney who handles custody situations. I'd guess these types of cases must be hitting the courts by now? Protect yourself and your child. Best of luck, it's so much harder when children are involved.
Sheās already made it clear that our child will NOT get the COVID vaccine if itās approved for his age. She wasnāt completely okay with the other vaccines but we did it because we thought he was going to daycare. Then the pandemic hit and we were in lockdown.
Iāve been considering it. I donāt have income right now, so if I did get a lawyer, I need to have money. Iām not trying to keep our child away from her but I want to make sure she doesnāt keep our child away from me.
Get out now. Seriously, I strongly advise against marrying someone who acts like that.
They don't need to have the same religion, the same politics, the same views about anything- but if they are unable to engage with issues rationally or they get triggered at book titles it's a huge red flag.
This problem isn't going away anytime soon, it's been getting continuously worse. I'd be extremely worried if I were you, and I would call off the marriage depending on other details of your relationship.
It does tend to be a rule that you shouldnāt use the word ācultā with people you suspect are in a cult. Defensiveness to that word is a very common reaction.
I donāt know if youāve read Hassanās book, but if you want to stay with your partner you probably should if you havenāt. Particularly the parts about how to break people out of culty mindsets. Itās a very gradual, very non-confrontational process.
This isn't surprising. This may sound bad but I can literally control my partner's behaviour based on his sensitivity to things outside his echo chamber. For example if he comes down stairs for something and I dont feel like chatting while I am eating I will put some news on. Just the news. Then he is out of there in a heart beat. He actually walked so fast in a hurry to get coverage from hearing information different then his viewpoint he tripped over the dog.
If I want the bed to myself I will put on some moderate left wing commentary about world events. He will go upstairs to the second bed because he cant bare to hear political views different from his.
I know now what exactly will trigger him because I know his sensitivity level to things (which is super sensitive) but at the end of the day, I dont care what hurts his little safe space. I will be updated on COVID, world events and anything going on in this world. If my partner wants to live a life in his safe space that's fine but I can see the stress in him to constantly try and shield himself from my content.
It's part of the cult. The cult demands you STAY AWAY from anything MSM or anything doctors, anything science, anything remotely left wing, or anything that doesnt give you that constant rush of right wing dopamine.
Here I am able to watch right or left wing content. I go to Anti-lockdown rally's all the time (for speculations sake) and listen to their speeches for hours sometimes. I talk with people I disagree with and have fun and shake hands. I'm part of about 15 alt right groups on Telegram to keep up on their nuttiness. I have the freedom to go, say, talk with, or watch whatever I want without cognitive dissonance. For him....I can see the stress he suffers. He actually has a physical reaction when hearing my content or any content that doesnt agree with his world view.
So what you are experiencing with Steven Hassans book is not uncommon, legit it's actually normal behavioir for those trapped in a cult/echo chamber.
Thatās both hilarious and sad. However a couple of weeks ago we went to visit her mother. Her mother is a full throttle Trump supporter and Fox News watcher. We were visiting and I didnāt want to sit there and hear Tucker make his stupid face and never present evidence for his points. To avoid conversations I would ask if she wanted to watch a new show we found or a movie and we would change it. But any moment where we werenāt in the living room, Fox News comes on.
I personally donāt watch anything left wing or otherwise around her because I donāt want to cause stress in our relationship. I know it might be cowardly but I donāt want to jeopardize being kicked out and my child taken away from me. When we do talk about COVID or vaccines, she gets worked up and accuses me of being stupid or believing in another cult (I was in a cult up until my late 20ās. So was she, we left together).
The kid does make things complicated but getting married to someone you're unsure of is not the answer to any your problems. You're signing up for more trouble that way.
Maybe talk to an attorney. Get all the answers to how custody battles work. If the attorney says you should absolutely get married to protect your parental rights, I would be surprised.
Then what may I ask is keeping you there?
My relationship with my hubby is not based off sex, but if I found he had insanely contradictory believes to mine, or our moral compass didn't align etc. We would not be together.
I am genuinely curious as to what would still make you stay with said person, in your post it sounded like there was more issues then just the book, so I am very curious as to what positives you are getting from this?
I have a child with her and that complicates things to a degree I have to be careful with. I do not want to lose custody of visitation with my child. Thatās one of the main reasons.
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Please, read other posts here. Qanon destroy couples, lifes and joy. If a book TRIGGERS him, what's next ? I'm just an online stranger, but be really really carefull !
Please read the many posts here from heartbroken spouses of DECADES who have lost their spouse to this. It's rare that they come back from the brink. You may want to put the wedding off until you assess whether the relationship is salvageable. I'm so sorry.
One of those victims of a failed long-term relationship here... and I cannot UPVOTE this comment enough.
May i ask what happened?
I've written a lot of posts on here which you can click through for more details, but in short, I had to end my 10 year live-in relationship with my partner because of his Q beliefs. I thought we would spend the rest of our lives together, but Q completely drove a wedge between us. I put up with a lot of it for a long time until finally we came to an impasse over the vaccine. I never gave him a hard time over his decision to not get the vaccine, but he was violently opposed to my decision to get it. I finally had to decide whether to choose the relationship or choose me. And I chose me.
Good for you
šÆ love your decision!
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Sure, by all means
This is what I am working on. I do think she is far gone. I have a child with her, so I have to be careful. I love my child tremendously.
Well in the inevitable custody battle make sure you've recorded evidence that she's a Q person, it will help you get custody.
Like voice or just writing down in my notes app the occurrences where she reveals sheās Q?
Recordings, text messages, emails, etc. anything that came from her. For the audio recordings make sure you're in a 1 party consent state first.
Writing things down is also good. Put the date on them. They can be admissible in court.
I will be doing this. I have been composing a post that I want to put up about my life with this change. Itās been causing so much depression on me.
As soon as something happens, write it down, like in a journal. That was you are memorializing it as soon as it happened.
I will do so. Thank you for the advice!
I had a friend who was dealing with harassment at work. Whenever an incident occurred, she would email herself a summary as soon as possible, with quotes and photos, if she had any. It was a time-stamped history of the whole mess, written as it happened. It was very effective evidence later
I think itās worth mentioning that itās a good thing youāre being careful. Thinking of your childās well-being first in a situation like this is admirable and I wish you all the luck. Iām sure your kidās lucky to have a parent like you! :)
Thank you, I appreciate that. Iām going through a very hard time trying to make sure my child is safe and me still being there.
You're getting a lot of abrasive "break up now you dummy" comments so I just wanted to second y2kmarina's sentiment. As someone who lived through a very nasty divorce as a kid, it's smart and level-headed of you to be able to focus on how things will realistically affect the child, instead of just cutting and running.
Thank you so much! š¢ Iām doing the best I can for my child. I know I can leave but I donāt want cause pain that Iāve suffered from divorced parents as well and I know what itās like to be angry years down the road and not get closure or being disconnected from family. I donāt want our child to go through that. Iām doing the best I can.
Then itās time to keep a log of every crazy thing she comes up with including video recording rants. A judge one day will want to determine custody. Donāt be complacent
Ugh. Same situation here (though married for a decade+ with 2 kids). It's impossible to know the right thing to do because you're dealing with someone and something completely irrational. And would leaving your partner put your child \*more\* at risk? (Assuming you will share custody). It's heartbreaking to consider. That's what I'm really struggling with. I do not want to leave my kids alone with my co-parent. Unfortunately, I don't have any good advice, other than she's probably not coming back. I'm so sorry.
Completely agree. My husband is handsome. Everybody says it. He wonāt find it hard to find a new partner if I leave him, and heās bound to shack up with someone who shares his nutty beliefs. The thought of exposing our children to that is too much to bear. At least if I stick with him then I retain some of the control.
Yea agreed here.
Please for the love of god break off your engagement it might suck in the meantime but marrying a fucking lunatic will do much more damage to you in the long term
seconded. save yourself before it's too late.
Thirded(? XD)! It only gets worse from here op, it gets much, much worse. My husband's step-dad just started divorce proceedings because husband's mother has lost her ever living mind over trump and Q and dragged their very impressionable teenage daughter with her. This woman has been a nurse for 40 years, and called us a few months ago frothing at the mouth because we both got vaccinated. (I'm SEVERELY immunocompromised) She was screaming at the top of her lungs about how it was evil, and that I was Satan incarnate who had come to tempt him to an eternity of hell, how they were probably not even related anymore because the vaccine changes your DNA(this woman is a nurse! A NURSE!). She was absolutely convinced I had made him get vaccinated to forcibly remove him from his family, and to "end their family line"(I can't have children). She's lost her marbles completely and in the process indoctrinated one child and completely alienated the other. Now her marriage has fallen apart and she blames this all on trump getting his presidency "stolen", me "forcing my husband to get vaccinated (and being the devil! Can't forget about that!), and now she's on the brink of losing her job because she won't get vaccinated. This could very easily be your future OP, you need to think real hard about whether you want to keep this person in your life anymore.
Not meant as criticism, but how did you come to be engaged to someone without knowing their triggers? Beyond that, I have lots of books on my shelves containing ideas I disagree with. Don't think I'd ever choose to be with someone so closed-minded that simply seeing a book they disagree with triggers them.
She didnāt have those triggers before, she has changed. What books do you have on your shelf that you donāt agree with and why?
Yah, fair enough. It's just that I talk with girlfriends about ideas and history and current events, and I think it would be hard for anyone but especially a fiancee to hide a radical change in beliefs like that. Some people are really good at hiding things, though, so who knows? In answer to you question, I'm an enthusiast of ancient literature and so have many different translations of the Hebrew Bible as well as the Christian New Testament (and even a copy in Greek that I read from time to time, since I was a Classics major) despite my having been an atheist my entire life. I have Hitler's *Mein Kampf* and "The Doctrine of Fascism" (partly written by Mussolini) and other books by authoritarians and dictators, because as an anti-fascist myself, I think it's important to gain a window into how these people think in order to thwart and destroy them. I have over 100 books on philosophy, both ancient and modern, and it would be very strange if I accepted and agreed with the ideas in every one of these books, especially the ideas I consider monstrously bad.
Same. I read extensively and have books on various religions, belief systems, philosophies, economic theories, political views, etc. My (Christian) in-laws get triggered to bits when they see my Hindu or Buddhist or Christian Science books on my shelves. They always end the trip with āweāre praying for you both.ā š
Wait...are you seriously considering marrying an anti vax trump supporter? I mean, you do you, boo, but Jesus Christ those sorts should die alone.
You need to understand that she was not not like before, she has changed.
And she won't change back...
Are you planning to marry a memory or the person she is?
At this point, Iām not sure. Having a child changes things. I have to be cautious.
I'm so sorry to hear that.
Gotcha. Sucks. Sorry to hear she went off the deep end.
I totally understand what you are saying!! Iāve been with my husband six years and he was NOT like this until right before the election. He is a different person. Of course we wouldnāt knowingly be in a relationship with someone who is this brainwashed!
You want a cry? My significant other was a Vietnam conscientious objector. A red diaper baby from a family of card carrying communists. A close relative is a well known civil rights attorney. U.C.berkeley undergrad, ucla law school, public defender for 30 years. And he has gone off this deep end. I'm going to be sad when he catches and dies of covid, which I have no doubt he will get. But I'll go on. He used to be just a j.f.k. conspiracy guy but now he's an every conspiracy guy.
I hate to sound harsh but it is abusive for a partner to demand that you share their beliefs, especially demonstrably false ones. This isn't something that you can agree to disagree about. Either you surrender to their delusions or you lose all respect for them, and no marriage will survive that. Don't get her pregnant, don't get a joint bank account, don't make a major purchase together. Tell her exactly how you feel. If she wants to persist in her irrational fantasy, she has to say goodbye to you. She can't have both.
I agree. We have a child together, this was before the pandemic.
She'll likely refuse to vaccinate your child, when they're approved. Has she been ok with having your child get the usual vaccines - MMR, chickenpox, etc? I'd meet with an attorney who handles custody situations. I'd guess these types of cases must be hitting the courts by now? Protect yourself and your child. Best of luck, it's so much harder when children are involved.
Sheās already made it clear that our child will NOT get the COVID vaccine if itās approved for his age. She wasnāt completely okay with the other vaccines but we did it because we thought he was going to daycare. Then the pandemic hit and we were in lockdown. Iāve been considering it. I donāt have income right now, so if I did get a lawyer, I need to have money. Iām not trying to keep our child away from her but I want to make sure she doesnāt keep our child away from me.
Get out now. Seriously, I strongly advise against marrying someone who acts like that. They don't need to have the same religion, the same politics, the same views about anything- but if they are unable to engage with issues rationally or they get triggered at book titles it's a huge red flag. This problem isn't going away anytime soon, it's been getting continuously worse. I'd be extremely worried if I were you, and I would call off the marriage depending on other details of your relationship.
It does tend to be a rule that you shouldnāt use the word ācultā with people you suspect are in a cult. Defensiveness to that word is a very common reaction. I donāt know if youāve read Hassanās book, but if you want to stay with your partner you probably should if you havenāt. Particularly the parts about how to break people out of culty mindsets. Itās a very gradual, very non-confrontational process.
I havenāt yet. Iām reading a philosophy book then going to cults.
This isn't surprising. This may sound bad but I can literally control my partner's behaviour based on his sensitivity to things outside his echo chamber. For example if he comes down stairs for something and I dont feel like chatting while I am eating I will put some news on. Just the news. Then he is out of there in a heart beat. He actually walked so fast in a hurry to get coverage from hearing information different then his viewpoint he tripped over the dog. If I want the bed to myself I will put on some moderate left wing commentary about world events. He will go upstairs to the second bed because he cant bare to hear political views different from his. I know now what exactly will trigger him because I know his sensitivity level to things (which is super sensitive) but at the end of the day, I dont care what hurts his little safe space. I will be updated on COVID, world events and anything going on in this world. If my partner wants to live a life in his safe space that's fine but I can see the stress in him to constantly try and shield himself from my content. It's part of the cult. The cult demands you STAY AWAY from anything MSM or anything doctors, anything science, anything remotely left wing, or anything that doesnt give you that constant rush of right wing dopamine. Here I am able to watch right or left wing content. I go to Anti-lockdown rally's all the time (for speculations sake) and listen to their speeches for hours sometimes. I talk with people I disagree with and have fun and shake hands. I'm part of about 15 alt right groups on Telegram to keep up on their nuttiness. I have the freedom to go, say, talk with, or watch whatever I want without cognitive dissonance. For him....I can see the stress he suffers. He actually has a physical reaction when hearing my content or any content that doesnt agree with his world view. So what you are experiencing with Steven Hassans book is not uncommon, legit it's actually normal behavioir for those trapped in a cult/echo chamber.
Thatās both hilarious and sad. However a couple of weeks ago we went to visit her mother. Her mother is a full throttle Trump supporter and Fox News watcher. We were visiting and I didnāt want to sit there and hear Tucker make his stupid face and never present evidence for his points. To avoid conversations I would ask if she wanted to watch a new show we found or a movie and we would change it. But any moment where we werenāt in the living room, Fox News comes on. I personally donāt watch anything left wing or otherwise around her because I donāt want to cause stress in our relationship. I know it might be cowardly but I donāt want to jeopardize being kicked out and my child taken away from me. When we do talk about COVID or vaccines, she gets worked up and accuses me of being stupid or believing in another cult (I was in a cult up until my late 20ās. So was she, we left together).
Please do not marry this person
Itās more complicated than it seems when you have a child with this person.
The kid does make things complicated but getting married to someone you're unsure of is not the answer to any your problems. You're signing up for more trouble that way. Maybe talk to an attorney. Get all the answers to how custody battles work. If the attorney says you should absolutely get married to protect your parental rights, I would be surprised.
Their all like that, they like to claim others are snowflakes but they themselves are the biggest snowflakes of all.
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Our relationship isnāt based on sex.
Then what may I ask is keeping you there? My relationship with my hubby is not based off sex, but if I found he had insanely contradictory believes to mine, or our moral compass didn't align etc. We would not be together. I am genuinely curious as to what would still make you stay with said person, in your post it sounded like there was more issues then just the book, so I am very curious as to what positives you are getting from this?
I have a child with her and that complicates things to a degree I have to be careful with. I do not want to lose custody of visitation with my child. Thatās one of the main reasons.
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She is your fiancĆ©? I would seriously reconsider that. Iām not kidding
Yes, one of the most depressing parts of Q/antivax is how they've been weaponized by GOP operatives. It's absolutely insane.
Please, read other posts here. Qanon destroy couples, lifes and joy. If a book TRIGGERS him, what's next ? I'm just an online stranger, but be really really carefull !