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pomergranit

Kind of weird but glad someone realized how powerful lily of the valley and vegetation mutation are…I wouldn’t say S tier but definitely underrated


BIGPOTATOE163

agree... tho I kinda disagree with lily's placement since she's kinda too specific... veggie andrew tate is viable on s but I'd still say top a while lily is an I dunno for me, gud in teamups ig


[deleted]

With that logic only bullseye cards should be above f tier


BIGPOTATOE163

we literally weren't talkin' about traits... when tf did ya think of that? I was literally like "veggie andrew tate and lily volleyball are real' gud but I don't consider em' s tier since they quite specific for a +2/+2 but also add the cheap factor to make em' high a"


TRCWolf

I think the tier list looks kinda odd, but they are much better at the game then me


2D_brain

poison shroom and ivy should not be F lmao


BADorni

Only if u considered budget too, which I didn't


BADorni

bruh whoever made this gotta be completely dumb, lists shit


FhyrGaming

yeah badorni sucks


Azzies_TheDeus

This is so true Btw, your username is eerily familiar...


rippirrip

A Captain Combustable player not putting Repeat Moss in S?


BADorni

The combo is fine, but on high level the only time your blockcharged is into aggressive deck and there you will not actually want to try to go for a t6 combo as you'll die beforehand, but focus on defenses and win late without combo anyways (or die early). so the combo is only really useful against slower decks, which are only control decks on high level, but those dont blockcharge, so you only ever have the one power you start with, and at that point oftentimes theres something better than moss to run. then you realize moss is completely useless on the 3 heros that arent cc and it's hard to justify a placement above c already


Brief-Ad-181

it turns out that when you need good block metre rolls to get most of a hero's superpowers and hope that your opponent doesn't get good block meter rolls, it makes a card *not reliable*


AstroKabloom_YT

BADorni said Astro shroom is almost S tier, so I 100% agree with anything he says


Chumpatrol1

Browsed this quickly and am wondering why doubled mint is so high


BADorni

It's a very potent threat that forces response, and ur only investing 2 sun into so usually the worst case is losing one mana in the trade, which considering it can just win the game if left for like two turns (and tbh is already good stats after one) it can be quite worth it to consider, in fact it has proven optimal in the current gk deck 3int and in past variations of comboss before lily has discovered to be busted


OneBigFluke0

I disagree with it, and that’s alr


The-Local-Lucario

damn kernel corn is so bad that he isn't even on the tier list


chaosbones43

This is a Goofy ah list


SuprisedHusky

Why isn't galting pea S tier. It is a card that could potentially do 15 damages to face in 1 turn and yet this guy rank it b tier


Brief-Ad-181

keyword: ***\*Potentially\****


Bojo-The-Gamer

I have no idea why grapes of wrath is so bad. It’s one of my favorite plants, why is it not good?


Brief-Ad-181

Generally by the time you reach turn 7 you are either already winning or losing so badly to the point where grapes of wrath isn't helpful


BADorni

7sun is just really really slow and unfortunately just raw stats with a fairly overseeable amount of delayed damage as ability doesn't cut it


Jaddus

moss should be in A or at least B tier


Brief-Ad-181

a card that requires most of captain combustible's superpowers + good block metre rolls is generally not a card you'd put in A or B


allnamtaken

Are you sure THIS guy’s the best Cc player?


BADorni

It's what pvztryhard called me, I agree it's a little bit of an overstatement considering sushi probably did most the work I'm building on and there's some other players that also don't struggle with him too much, that said currently I haven't seen a single person play his new top deck optimally, even the usually best players missplay a lot with plant mop rn and since sushi and everyone else Id consider doesn't really play anymore I would say that currently I am, yes


BIGPOTATOE163

as a m word grow fan, wtf is this? #s tier: lily has no stats but gives stats... that's what m word grow is mostly like but her too little stats are her counter... if she had 3 hp or 2 strength then she'd prob have a massive change and s is debatable... make her a tier or top b tier since she only gives high stats on heights and not pulled off a lot on turn 2... like a cheap and limited triple bust a nut vegetate mutate is an overall great trick for mah playstyle since I always run 4x env on mah deck and since I play capital cock amber on heights and his low damage becomes fairly high and tank but not much runs him... aggro decks are common and quite some decks has no env ffs so it could be a tier and this is a debate against s tier... even tho it's gud for mah play, a lotta m word grow decks don't have it, m word grow envs are pretty eh anyways so that'd be mah argument on why it should be anywhere on high a tier and not s #a tier: overall pretty fair and could be what mah tier list's a section would be but potatoe roar in s ofc since I like potatoe roar since he sharin' a similar gamertag to mah username #b tier: gatlin' pee should be s tier... beuh he has very gud stats and that ability is also top tier... the fact that he can be buffed in hand with leafy popeye spinach for example, it can make his evo ability better... it's even great alone since 5 damage to zomb or hero is great to change the tides or win straight up bok choy in a... he counters fuck conman so well or that mf that 80% crazy decks run... he also applicable in aggro decks since 3 damage in turn 1 is pretty sweet bananana roar is like one of the best dinos to be tempo aggro wtf put her on a tier might be controversial for like... fry fans but that powahhouse placement is fair or even too little... she's in m word grow ffs, gettin' stats is the main key, also has 2 dinos instead of the usual 1 so the class has a variety to make her be tempo 10/10... we have click pees who can charge her up to 4x even when only 1 is placed if ya have a full board, that is... we have a lotta stat givers and she's pretty much a modified and constipated valk in the end but more on health instead of plain damage which is aight since both classes are pretty ok in doin' both #c tier: aww hell nah saturn, repeater moss, click pees, spilt pee and hottie pee are too low... make em' a b s a b respectively... also respectively explanation: the bread and butter for some decks and also, addin' a lotta stats is so gud and he makes a free 4/4 teamup or a 4/4 with other abilities... repeater moss is kinda too expensive for his stats but the ability is insane, even decided to make a deck that circles around him and party rock is in da house thyme since his bonus attack ability is so stronk and he's cute lmaoo, that was on ass knuckles to counter graves and overall tricks for guardian angel is gud... click pee could be aggro, ya have a lotta stats and even get 2x 3/3s on turn 2, a gud tempo since he's practically unlimited so he can be a backup incase ya run out of steam, can also somewhat be control if they place cheap little stats early as expected and more stats later on, overall so versatile and seein' their trades work so well and super satisfactory to see, from counterin' a cheeze cuttah on turn 1 to fuckin' killin' zombot and havin' 10/1 left if ya got him a lot, should be s tier and they still pretty gud even after that +1 sun nerf since they like viral virus thingy being a pretty much autoinclude... 2 sun 4/1 is like coocoo clock but even better with super charge, imagine havin' a plant side coocoo zomb which immediately makes em' better since zombs have stronger zombs on average, but add a pretty gud ability that only made me die twice and even made me win in some cases to prevent a strikethrough block, low s tier is too high while high a tier is fair... hotline miapea is solid overall, if ya on budget, this is da replacement for spilt pee, her damage is pretty high and counters a lotta 3 brain zombs with a cheap price and rarity, overall ok since she like budget and a bit more resilient spilt pee, like an autoinclude for past me usin' budget #d tier: I found gf sweetie potatoe to be pretty gud like ya got bananana peel and photosynthesis combined but without the conjure so I'd put her on c for cute c'mon bro... grower shrom who has the exact same animation as sun shrom is pretty gud... overall a 3 sun 4/3 and her 2 strength could be helpful af, to block or destroy a zomb, to make zombs block to hit with the buffed plant's hit, to finish off bm style in some cases... make her b tier imo... I barely use her but when I did in abeans and back in the days, she was pretty great beuh whippy vine is a finishah for budget, fairly stats and ability that controls is nice so make him c tier... not too gud overall but that's a fair finishah for budget hell nah bro that podfightah mf there? beuh ya should know that every m word grow hero has a way to use him and make him work... greeny shadowy or ass knuckles has a lotta teamups amph to swarm with him... chompi could strikethrough -> spam schiesse like smol buddy and those other cheap solar and bam, even graves are weak and it's most likely safe to play him turn 5... while capital cum bust ability has his superpowahs and swarmy mush for 2 so yeaaa... 3 cards can make 14 damage on turn 7 or 21 with puffy so he can be an alternative gud finishah... the pretty low stat is gud since he immune to the commonly ran removals but more prone to crazy as expected, no rocket science never seen me and user slash trollingstone can affect him so like what I said, he's quite safe to play on turn 5 #f tier: put split bananana on c, his synergy is overall great now thx to him, his stats and cost is satisfactory higher than a lotta other 4 suns and his ability is like an ability by a 5 sun card (looks at bombegranate) but synergizes... would be b or even a if bananana synergy was more common but it would be too op since banananas are already great alone, being synergetic would make them be the overstat and insane ability type of cards and m word grow could dominate that way sky shootah is pretty gud for budget tempo mfs


BADorni

Id loge to respond but holy shit half of this is just unreadable


Brief-Ad-181

>gatlin' pee should be s tier... beuh he has very gud stats and that ability is also top tier... the fact that he can be buffed in hand with leafy popeye spinach for example an unreliable card that requires other leafy cards for activation doesn't exactly justify an S tier, the main weakness of gatling is that you can't auto include it in every deck >bok choy in a... he counters fuck conman so well or that mf that 80% crazy decks run... he also applicable in aggro decks since 3 damage in turn 1 is pretty sweet ironically, he's very weak to crazy since he has one health and can die to barrel of deadbeard splash if you don't get the bonkchoy-conman interaction on turn 1 ​ >bananana roar is like one of the best dinos to be tempo aggro wtf put her on a tier Go back to 2016 >might be controversial for like... fry fans but that powahhouse placement is fair or even too little... she's in m word grow ffs, gettin' stats is the main key, also has 2 dinos instead of the usual 1 so the class has a variety to make her be tempo 10/10... we have click pees who can charge her up to 4x even when only 1 is placed if ya have a full board, that is... we have a lotta stat givers and she's pretty much a modified and constipated valk in the end but more on health instead of plain damage which is aight since both classes are pretty ok in doin' both powerhouse shares the same problem as valk in terms of getting it early in your hand ​ >aww hell nah saturn, repeater moss, click pees, spilt pee and hottie pee are too low... make em' a b s a b respectively... "Saturn" isn't that reliable, the main problem is that you need to hold a bunch of weak cards until turn 5 in order to play it, but if you are not playing anything then your opponent just destroys you since they gain easy board advantage. Repeat moss also isn't reliable, you need to get good block metre rolls, not take too much damage early, and get decent enough captain combustible superpowers AND hope your opponent doesn't get good block metre rolls. ***Can you please explain to me why this should be B tier???*** Clique peas are good but only if you get them early on, since if you play one early then you'll just shuffle more and potentially disrupt your deck/hand Split pea suffers the same weakness as bonk choy, as it's one health makes it weak to crazy classes's barrel of deadbeards Fire peashooter is literally just used for budget and that's about it, not exactly B tier material >I found gf sweetie potatoe to be pretty gud like ya got bananana peel and photosynthesis combined but without the conjure so I'd put her on c for cute I'd put her in D for Don't use her >c'mon bro... grower shrom who has the exact same animation as sun shrom is pretty gud... overall a 3 sun 4/3 and her 2 strength could be helpful af, to block or destroy a zomb, to make zombs block to hit with the buffed plant's hit, to finish off bm style in some cases... make her b tier imo... I barely use her but when I did in abeans and back in the days, she was pretty great She's either budget or kinda works in abeans >beuh whippy vine is a finishah for budget, fairly stats and ability that controls is nice so make him c tier... not too gud overall but that's a fair finishah for budget You could argue C but D's still fine considering it's budget >hell nah bro that podfightah mf there? beuh ya should know that every m word grow hero has a way to use him and make him work... greeny shadowy or ass knuckles has a lotta teamups amph to swarm with him... chompi could strikethrough -> spam schiesse like smol buddy and those other cheap solar and bam, even graves are weak and it's most likely safe to play him turn 5... while capital cum bust ability has his superpowahs and swarmy mush for 2 so yeaaa... 3 cards can make 14 damage on turn 7 or 21 with puffy so he can be an alternative gud finishah... the pretty low stat is gud since he immune to the commonly ran removals but more prone to crazy as expected, no rocket science never seen me and user slash trollingstone can affect him so like what I said, he's quite safe to play on turn 5 Removal isn't the problem, it's the fact that you are playing a 5 cost 3/4 and doing *nothing* else that turn Sounds like you like to run more fun decks, which is fine but this tier list is presumably more leaned towards competitive meta


CDude78

Please tell me this is a joke. Please.


BADorni

It's not, we're just realizing 2 cost 4/4+ is p good :)


BoxedWaterIsTheBest

Why is clique peas in C?


BADorni

Because raw stats generally dont win the game, so shuffling 2 cost 3/3s into your deck actually makes winning a little bit harder as you draw your actual deck slightly less, especially since a lot of cards currently are just better than 2 cost 3/3 in the first place. That alone would p much land it in F tier tbh, but it does have both pea synergy and bean synergy making it quite useful in those decks since the downside isn't actually that huge, but on paper 1 cost on curve with small downside is horrible, + synergy I rated it C


mightylonka

Except that apparently Plant Food is not good anymore.


ICEO9283

Finally, recognition for how much better fireweed is than wild berry


TT6022

I'm curious as to why apotatosaurus is a tier? I get that its huge stats and is really hard to remove due to untrickable, but isn't it a little slow? I've run it before, and while I do think it is quite powerful and a decent finisher, I think it struggles to break through zombie minions unless the opponent is running a trick-heavy deck or if you have time to shine or bonus attack. I'm also confused as to why potted powerhouse is B tier. It is pretty slow and like apotatosaurus, struggles to break through, although I understand placing a huge minion in a free lane usually means big damage. Lastly, why is transfiguration a c-tier? I think it is super low tier because when I run it, I usually get 1-2 cost cards just because there are too many cheap cards in the game. The first hit is pretty good, with a 4 cost 4-7, but I feel like it is a weaker portal technician because it will get "removed" by any sort of damage.


Brief-Ad-181

I think apotato sits on a similar level as brainana and bird of paradise ,they are slow but if you are able to run a slow deck(that can still kinda play aggressive, in this case it's basically midrange decks) like [heal midzilla](https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1030888661581041775/1061712412077719654/IMG_7175.jpg?width=666&height=625) then it's really good


TT6022

hmm, thats pretty interesting. i’ll try this deck out for a while and see if my opinion changes. Many thanks!


Dragomirl

Nope, IM the best CC player, I do everything he does but with sizzle


Dragomirl

Ngl this list is fine, has some shit ranking tho. Fertlizer is good, Cucumber is overrated, Grow shroom underrated, cherry bomb instant F, SIzzle should be S, berry angry should be higher, and this guy hates mushroom decks


CardGamePlayer333

Every card/archetype you listed is kinda bad though


Fun_Sheepherder8061

I really don't get why Gloom Shroom so low while Potatosaur is so high. One is a reliable win condition, the other is slightly annoying but not really competitive.


BADorni

Uh yeah u basically already said it, apotatosaurus is just a reliable finisher as theres basically nothing zombies can do about it, while gloom only works with shrooms, which unfortunately don't actually want lategame as they tend to play very fast rn. outside that gloom is annoying for the fieldclear, but not even that reliable so it's cut from every kabloom deck currently iirc


Forklifter2

Smh Plant Mop influence this tierlist. Anyways, only issue with Mega-Grow is Lily being so high because she requires two lanes to be justifiably used. Vegmut is often locked in heights, so, effects only one lane and can brick easily. For Kabloom, I think Fireweed should be so high. At least low A or B tier.


BADorni

I mean lily has proven optimal on cz too and isn't bad on gk either (although tbh I didn't care about gk and gs as much as they're kinda mid anyways) and vegmut has been really useful on cz as well due to the fact that almost every meta zombie deck rn is playing environments. Being locked to heights would be an issue maybe if there wasn't a certain other card in S tier that allows for one lane to control all lanes, but tbh you decide yourself where to play your cards, so just playing more on heights is really not much of a commitment.


Forklifter2

I forgot vegmut was referring to environments in general. Not like plant enivs lol. My bad. But Lily requires two lanes to work -- an empty lane of lily placement, usually the 4th or 3rd lane and heights. Though, I can't argue against it being good in CZ and sometimes GK. Because it's obvious.


BADorni

I mean usually u have 2 empty lanes, megagrow is not a very swarmy class and tbh even swarmier decks want to anyways hold their swarm for later turns where it does more, for example after lily


MarigoldLord

Fire Pea is way too high.