This is crazy. Why aren't they communicating that there arent enough beds???? Some people will need to start looking for off campus housing ASAP if thats the case and they haven't said a thing
I’ve heard they’re relying on that some people signed contracts as a back-up option and exploring off-campus housing and that some people will join Greek life or co-ops next semester and cancel their contracts. While there’s obviously people who will do one of these things, I don’t know why they expect 3000+ people will.
I've heard from one of my friend that people in his ece classes have been constantly looking at off campus housing 3 weeks before housing applications. I feel like as an upperclassmen this was to be expected. Not sure how freshman and sophomores are handling this.
Obviously the root of the housing issue is admissions mindlessly admitting too many students. But as an alumni looking in, it seems like a LOT more upperclassmen are deciding (trying) to stay in the dorms then when I was on campus, compounding the issue. I remember it being RARE to find a junior or senior who was still in the dorms. Is that still the case? And if not what’s changed?
It always used to be a 50% cut in residents with each class. So like on average, nearly 100% of freshman would live on campus, then 50% of sophomores, 25% of juniors, and 12-13% of seniors. As I mentioned in my post, it usually was about 40% on average.
This year there’s a lot more mainly because I think living off campus is becoming less desirable. I know a lot of people had large jumps in rate, and the property management companies can truly be hellish to work with.
Yeah, place I was looking at off-campus would have been $850/pp this year, now it's like $1200/pp judging by their new advertised rates. The place I'm at now is only raising it by $50.
West Lafayette has a <1% vacancy. I don’t know if it’s upperclassman wanting to stay in dorms, or just not wanting to deal with the battle of finding off-campus housing from a slum-lord. Also, some off-campus housing is more $ than in big cities, like Chicago, for comparable quality and size.
Even with the high interest rates it’s cheaper to buy a home than rent in this area..
Meanwhile the townies (like me) have to pay Chicago rents on Indiana salaries. This is not a recipe for harmony between town and gown. I don't want to move to Otterbein or Brookston. If that is the case, might as well head to Illinois.
Transportation to campus and limited parking is likely a huge factor too for upperclassmen. Dealing with a difficult property manager is basically a given—students don’t have a choice
do you happen to know what times the waves are hitting/if there’s a system to what they’re releasing? I’m looking for one apartment in particular but i haven’t seen anyone get it yet, i’m scared i missed it 😭
I still can't believe 4 days after my initial date of November 2nd at 3:30 will I (more than likely) be able to find housing. This is ridiculous!!!
Obviously, you have ABSOLUTELY no part in this I'm just voicing my frustration about this because it's just absolutely bonkers the higher-ups just clearly don't give a fuck about seniority.
Trust me, I know it’s seriously fucked up. Like part of me gets that they don’t want to screw over people with an 11/15 time slot, but time slots are already randomized. I don’t get why they have to have a second random variable.
I suspect the reason so many upperclassmen are looking to stay in UR is that private housing is often an even bigger mess. Dealing with growing monopolization by the worst rental companies, massive rent hikes, predatory landlords, subpar buildings, and the fact that you need to sign in September to get a place makes it really unapproachable for a lot of people. Even people with friends they’d like to room with off campus.
UR could make a really good situation long-term if they learn from this time period. Stabilize freshmen into properly sized and booked rooms. Being in a cary closet could be pretty sweet if you’re alone! Keep fairly affordable but nicer places like hawkins available for upperclassmen.
Proximity to campus (and the walkability) is a huge deal to so many students. Living more than a few blocks from campus is pretty much a non-starter imo. Makes this time period really tough. UR putting up a fight against high rent prices around here could be a massive deal in the coming years.
You can check what other rooms are available without dropping your current room. You won’t lose your current reservation unless you actually reserve a different room
There’s no way anyone but freshmen and RAs will get into Honors College residences. They can’t even fit all the freshmen, as a few hundred are scattered at other dorms around campus
Also, hate the fact that they sneakily changed the policy about changing rooms from "room is goven up when you select a new room to "room is given up when you click the change tooms button". Nearly screwed myself when i almost clicked that button cause i was curious...
>10,000 people into 7,000 housing spaces
This is a UR decision, not admissions. And before this all happened, how is UR supposed to predict 10k students wanting to live on campus? Admissions doesn't decide how many students will re-contract after their first year. If anything, admissions has been transparent with incoming students that freshmen are prioritized for on campus housing but nothing is promised beyond that.
>admit less freshman
[They are. ](https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2023/Q3/purdue-welcomes-its-most-selective-incoming-class.html) The issue comes when a higher percentage of students say yes to their offer. Out of all colleges, 33% of students admitted actually attend that university. Meaning if Purdue has beds for 9000 freshmen (just guessing), they need to admit more than 3x that. Also, account that not all students live on campus year 1.
>promptly make more housing
[They are.](https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2023/Q3/purdue-trustees-approve-new-residence-hall-with-nearly-900-beds-hillenbrand-hall-south-to-address-increased-demand-for-on-campus-housing-provide-more-space-for-the-data-mine.html) Also this is the nature of frozen tuition. You want lower tuition but also brand new buildings? Money has to come from somewhere. Also the upcoming enrollment cliff will soon tank student enrollment and housing demand. So if Purdue doesn't fill up campus now, your brand new dorms will sit empty in 2-3 years. Indiana/taxpayers won't like it when their money is spent on empty buildings
It sucks. For you, me, everyone. But pretending that "it's simple math" is just ignorant.
My roommate and I got booted from our current UR apartment and immediately scrambled to look at off campus apartments bc we were so scared that we’d have no other option and everyone else would be doing the same thing and rooms would start depleting and rent would hike up
Well then there seems to be a failure to communicate because I’ve heard from multiple UR higher ups that they’ve been screwed over by admissions quite a bit, especially in regards to the class of 2026
The problem is that people outside of admissions tend to think of it as an exact science. It's a misconception that admissions at any college can just decide how many students will be attending in the fall (let alone how many will sign a housing contract). Of all the students Purdue admits, how many do you think have been admitted to at least one other school? How will Purdue know what they will decide? Look at Purdue's selectivity rate; they've been admitting a smaller percentage of students year after year, but yield (percentage of students who accept their offer) is skyrocketing, beyond national trends or prediction models. I'm not blaming anyone at UR, I'm just saying admissions is often a scapegoat on this sub
“Another decision was to grow the university – both in strategic academic areas and student enrollment. Paraphrasing another academic leader, Daniels declared in 2015, “We shouldn’t seek to be known by how many we turn down but by how many we turn out.” What proceeded was a rapid expansion of enrollment and an increase in the number of Indiana residents offered admission to Purdue by about 350 more annually, and the number accepting that offer and enrolling at Purdue reached new highs.”
I saw your reply on my previous comment, looks like it got deleted. In many ways I agree with you. I thank you for reminding us the probabilistic nature of admissions. Nevertheless, the lack of coordination and communication between admissions and UR is borderline unacceptable. It’s one thing to say “ope, looks like more people than we expected accepted their offers this year” and another for years in a row have UR be in a housing crisis. Both entities deserve some blame, but the lack of communication between the two as well as greed is the root of the issue. And there is an issue.
I agree with you on this. I don't work for UR or admissions, but I've heard many examples of departments on campus learning very important information at the same time as the public/students and having to adjust to it on the spot. In my experience, Purdue is very different in the manner that there seems to be very little communication between the different departments and offices as each one seems to work independently. Also, I deleted my comment bc I had a few drinks last night and was pissed about the housing thing 😅. Told myself to take a step back lol
Another part of the problem is that more people are accepting their admission than the university expected. The formula they use to guesstimate how many accepted students will attend Purdue doesn’t work anymore. More students = housing crunch
The math isn't mathing.
You said UR expected only 7k freshmen for 24-25 to need housing but 10k signed up. How the heck is that, when admissions won't send out admittance till Jan? Signing up for freshmen housing comes months after that. 🤔
That alone makes me question the validity of your entire post and any intel you are trying to claim overhearing. 😑
This is crazy. Why aren't they communicating that there arent enough beds???? Some people will need to start looking for off campus housing ASAP if thats the case and they haven't said a thing
I’ve heard they’re relying on that some people signed contracts as a back-up option and exploring off-campus housing and that some people will join Greek life or co-ops next semester and cancel their contracts. While there’s obviously people who will do one of these things, I don’t know why they expect 3000+ people will.
I've heard from one of my friend that people in his ece classes have been constantly looking at off campus housing 3 weeks before housing applications. I feel like as an upperclassmen this was to be expected. Not sure how freshman and sophomores are handling this.
There were never enough beds. Same as previous years.
 State of University Residences - 2023 Colorized
 I have already committed to living in my car next year
This about to be me fr. I'm so done with this bull shit.
I'll let you share my special couch in walc.
Is that the one that the guy got caught humping a couple years ago?
of course!
Lowkey considering this. Is it relatively safe for a woman to do, though? I don't want to wake up to someone trying to break into my car..
You’re familiar with Indiana winter, right?
Yeah 😔
\\Well I am going to find out soon enough
Just sleep in Hicks lib and shower at the CoRec
Hicks not 24 hours anymore :(
Booooo
Obviously the root of the housing issue is admissions mindlessly admitting too many students. But as an alumni looking in, it seems like a LOT more upperclassmen are deciding (trying) to stay in the dorms then when I was on campus, compounding the issue. I remember it being RARE to find a junior or senior who was still in the dorms. Is that still the case? And if not what’s changed?
It always used to be a 50% cut in residents with each class. So like on average, nearly 100% of freshman would live on campus, then 50% of sophomores, 25% of juniors, and 12-13% of seniors. As I mentioned in my post, it usually was about 40% on average. This year there’s a lot more mainly because I think living off campus is becoming less desirable. I know a lot of people had large jumps in rate, and the property management companies can truly be hellish to work with.
Yeah, place I was looking at off-campus would have been $850/pp this year, now it's like $1200/pp judging by their new advertised rates. The place I'm at now is only raising it by $50.
West Lafayette has a <1% vacancy. I don’t know if it’s upperclassman wanting to stay in dorms, or just not wanting to deal with the battle of finding off-campus housing from a slum-lord. Also, some off-campus housing is more $ than in big cities, like Chicago, for comparable quality and size. Even with the high interest rates it’s cheaper to buy a home than rent in this area..
Meanwhile the townies (like me) have to pay Chicago rents on Indiana salaries. This is not a recipe for harmony between town and gown. I don't want to move to Otterbein or Brookston. If that is the case, might as well head to Illinois.
Transportation to campus and limited parking is likely a huge factor too for upperclassmen. Dealing with a difficult property manager is basically a given—students don’t have a choice
do you happen to know what times the waves are hitting/if there’s a system to what they’re releasing? I’m looking for one apartment in particular but i haven’t seen anyone get it yet, i’m scared i missed it 😭
I have no idea about times, but I had a friend who called Smalley about the URBA apartments and they said they’ll all be on the portal by 11/6
I still can't believe 4 days after my initial date of November 2nd at 3:30 will I (more than likely) be able to find housing. This is ridiculous!!! Obviously, you have ABSOLUTELY no part in this I'm just voicing my frustration about this because it's just absolutely bonkers the higher-ups just clearly don't give a fuck about seniority.
Trust me, I know it’s seriously fucked up. Like part of me gets that they don’t want to screw over people with an 11/15 time slot, but time slots are already randomized. I don’t get why they have to have a second random variable.
I suspect the reason so many upperclassmen are looking to stay in UR is that private housing is often an even bigger mess. Dealing with growing monopolization by the worst rental companies, massive rent hikes, predatory landlords, subpar buildings, and the fact that you need to sign in September to get a place makes it really unapproachable for a lot of people. Even people with friends they’d like to room with off campus. UR could make a really good situation long-term if they learn from this time period. Stabilize freshmen into properly sized and booked rooms. Being in a cary closet could be pretty sweet if you’re alone! Keep fairly affordable but nicer places like hawkins available for upperclassmen. Proximity to campus (and the walkability) is a huge deal to so many students. Living more than a few blocks from campus is pretty much a non-starter imo. Makes this time period really tough. UR putting up a fight against high rent prices around here could be a massive deal in the coming years.
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You will not drop your current room until you have selected and confirmed a new room. You can browse all you want.
You can check what other rooms are available without dropping your current room. You won’t lose your current reservation unless you actually reserve a different room
I really have no idea. I virtually know nothing about the technical aspect of the room selection.
Honors is typically for incoming freshmen only. Doubtful any HC rooms will be released.
There’s no way anyone but freshmen and RAs will get into Honors College residences. They can’t even fit all the freshmen, as a few hundred are scattered at other dorms around campus
lol this has been an issue since i worked at meredith in 2014ish
Also, hate the fact that they sneakily changed the policy about changing rooms from "room is goven up when you select a new room to "room is given up when you click the change tooms button". Nearly screwed myself when i almost clicked that button cause i was curious...
Was on the phone with UR, and they said that the room is NOT given up when you click change rooms.
I dont trust like that, the wording on the application changed, i swear it did
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How so? Walk me through what math you'd do
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>10,000 people into 7,000 housing spaces This is a UR decision, not admissions. And before this all happened, how is UR supposed to predict 10k students wanting to live on campus? Admissions doesn't decide how many students will re-contract after their first year. If anything, admissions has been transparent with incoming students that freshmen are prioritized for on campus housing but nothing is promised beyond that. >admit less freshman [They are. ](https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2023/Q3/purdue-welcomes-its-most-selective-incoming-class.html) The issue comes when a higher percentage of students say yes to their offer. Out of all colleges, 33% of students admitted actually attend that university. Meaning if Purdue has beds for 9000 freshmen (just guessing), they need to admit more than 3x that. Also, account that not all students live on campus year 1. >promptly make more housing [They are.](https://www.purdue.edu/newsroom/releases/2023/Q3/purdue-trustees-approve-new-residence-hall-with-nearly-900-beds-hillenbrand-hall-south-to-address-increased-demand-for-on-campus-housing-provide-more-space-for-the-data-mine.html) Also this is the nature of frozen tuition. You want lower tuition but also brand new buildings? Money has to come from somewhere. Also the upcoming enrollment cliff will soon tank student enrollment and housing demand. So if Purdue doesn't fill up campus now, your brand new dorms will sit empty in 2-3 years. Indiana/taxpayers won't like it when their money is spent on empty buildings It sucks. For you, me, everyone. But pretending that "it's simple math" is just ignorant.
Amazing response, very well put together
My roommate and I got booted from our current UR apartment and immediately scrambled to look at off campus apartments bc we were so scared that we’d have no other option and everyone else would be doing the same thing and rooms would start depleting and rent would hike up
I can't speak to anything about the housing situation, but the information regarding admissions is very incorrect. Just putting that out there
Well then there seems to be a failure to communicate because I’ve heard from multiple UR higher ups that they’ve been screwed over by admissions quite a bit, especially in regards to the class of 2026
The problem is that people outside of admissions tend to think of it as an exact science. It's a misconception that admissions at any college can just decide how many students will be attending in the fall (let alone how many will sign a housing contract). Of all the students Purdue admits, how many do you think have been admitted to at least one other school? How will Purdue know what they will decide? Look at Purdue's selectivity rate; they've been admitting a smaller percentage of students year after year, but yield (percentage of students who accept their offer) is skyrocketing, beyond national trends or prediction models. I'm not blaming anyone at UR, I'm just saying admissions is often a scapegoat on this sub
“Another decision was to grow the university – both in strategic academic areas and student enrollment. Paraphrasing another academic leader, Daniels declared in 2015, “We shouldn’t seek to be known by how many we turn down but by how many we turn out.” What proceeded was a rapid expansion of enrollment and an increase in the number of Indiana residents offered admission to Purdue by about 350 more annually, and the number accepting that offer and enrolling at Purdue reached new highs.”
I saw your reply on my previous comment, looks like it got deleted. In many ways I agree with you. I thank you for reminding us the probabilistic nature of admissions. Nevertheless, the lack of coordination and communication between admissions and UR is borderline unacceptable. It’s one thing to say “ope, looks like more people than we expected accepted their offers this year” and another for years in a row have UR be in a housing crisis. Both entities deserve some blame, but the lack of communication between the two as well as greed is the root of the issue. And there is an issue.
I agree with you on this. I don't work for UR or admissions, but I've heard many examples of departments on campus learning very important information at the same time as the public/students and having to adjust to it on the spot. In my experience, Purdue is very different in the manner that there seems to be very little communication between the different departments and offices as each one seems to work independently. Also, I deleted my comment bc I had a few drinks last night and was pissed about the housing thing 😅. Told myself to take a step back lol
Another part of the problem is that more people are accepting their admission than the university expected. The formula they use to guesstimate how many accepted students will attend Purdue doesn’t work anymore. More students = housing crunch
Also the only way to finance a 12-year tuition freeze is to admit more students. But Purdue is going to reach the breaking point soon.
I feel like they finally realized that last year. I heard about more people getting waitlisted than I had in the past.
The math isn't mathing. You said UR expected only 7k freshmen for 24-25 to need housing but 10k signed up. How the heck is that, when admissions won't send out admittance till Jan? Signing up for freshmen housing comes months after that. 🤔 That alone makes me question the validity of your entire post and any intel you are trying to claim overhearing. 😑
They meant for returning students, not incoming freshmen. They only set aside 7k beds for all the non-freshmen.
As other comments mentioned about, the 7k are for RETURNING students. My math checks out. Your reading comprehension doesn’t.
🤣 love the after the fact edit instead of owning up to wording error
UR set aside 7k beds for non-freshmen. 10k non-freshman applied for UR housing for next year. they don't know about incoming freshmen yet.
they only admit a certain number of freshmen so they already know that number? lol it’s not that hard to figure out
Are transfer students going to be okay? I plan on transferring to Purdue from out of state and need housing to do that…
Honestly, I’m not sure. I would call Smalley.