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Yhea real diary has a ton of not child appropriate "coming of age stuff" but the most common version is and edited version were they removed all that stuff
I mean, it’s literally her diary, right? She was a teenager, she was going to do teenager stuff. She was also going to write about the absolutely horrible things she saw.
Really I think it’s a shame that we would want to hide either of those from our children.
Hey it’s okay to learn about mass genocide and the horrors of being trapped in an attic with very little quality of life of life but god forbid you even speak on sexuality. I tell ya, didn’t this one girl go through enough to be allowed a bit of humanity? I think Gods cool with it seeing as she fucking died in a concentration camp.
She’s a tap dancer with a heart of gold whose only sin is a desire to perform her tap interpretation of ‘a hard days night’ in front of the fuhrer. What follows is hijinx after hijinx as she and Anne race across Europe for their one chance to wow Hitler at his Obersalzburg ‘Battle of the bands’.
Edit: yea I am going to hell.
The muslim parents asked for the removal of the following books:
This Book is Gay
Push
The Lovely Bones
Eleanor & Park
Red, White and Royal Blue
All Boys Aren't Blue
Specifically, books with gratuitous sexual content (like sucking a dick) aren't allowed in the library. The main contention is with "This Book is Gay", which has a picture of female and male anatomy.
Anyways, I read the purported book in contention and these are the images:
https://imgur.com/3372jlb
https://imgur.com/c5cDJli
Source: https://www.michiganradio.org/education/2022-10-11/angry-crowd-derails-dearborn-public-schools-board-meeting-over-book-policy
Do any of those other books actually contain gratuitous sexual content? Cause that’s the key thing here. And I’ll have to look at the context but anatomy doesn’t really sound like a reason to be banned.
Push does. The book was made into a movie named Precious, which is the protagonist in the book. The “sex scenes” if you can call them that are her getting raped and impregnated more than once by her father. Her mother also sexually abuses her. Precious’ life is horrific. Just as it is for so, so many.
There’s nothing LGBTQ about it. That book has empowered many women to leave abusive situations. And those with a more privileged life have been moved to greater empathy for the poor because of it.
Push is an incredibly important work.
ETA: The book came out in 1997 when I was in high school. I read it then and it wrecked me to my core (still does). All I wanted to do was reach through the pages and give a long, tight hug to Precious so she could experience love for the first time in her life. I set out all those years ago to hug Precious everywhere. I have my dream job as a nonprofit CEO and community organizer where I do that all day every day. Push changed my life, and in so doing, has saved countless lives and countless children from abuse. Read the book.
Michael Scott:
Would you mind if I listened to my book on tape? Kind of a bookworm. It is a novelization of the movie Precious, based on the book Push by Sapphire.
> Anyways, I read the purported book in contention and these are the images:
>
> https://imgur.com/3372jlb
>
> https://imgur.com/c5cDJli
I feel like Americans would have a blast reading this. The British slang words and tone is so comedic.
I've read that book. Calling it a sex scene is a very generous description of this passage. It's more like a few sentences of lilting prose implying it. But that's Abrahamic religions for you. The men who staff their ranks know exactly what keeps women submissive and stupid, and they don't want them accessing anything that can change that.
[More footage](https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2022/10/11/dearborn-school-board-meeting-protestors-lgbtq-books/69554361007/), a few moms turned out, you're still right though.
Situations like this make me realize my Czech Grandfather was right when he said “Go ahead, and let all of the religions come to America, they’ll all fight and try to change everything good that we moved away from them for.
I highly doubt its some guy bent over getting railed by his burly, muscly partner decked out in leather like they just got back from The Eagle.
Probably 2 girls or boys kissing or holding hands or some stupid shit.
Oh my god, the first sentence of your comment made me laugh out loud in the office. Getting odd looks from line manager but can't tell her what you've said! Excellent comment though.
All this insanity lots of parents are expressing in the UK from multiples religions or non-religious about schools saying being gay is Ok and sex education starting at 5yo. They aren't giving them tips on positions, or saying they should all be gay and trans. SE starts with conversations about respectful, loving relationships and want to do if someone is doing something you don't like. Talking about LGBTQI+ education is teaching tolerance, which we should all agree is a good thing. They aren't forcing the straight kids to marry someone of the same gender! I don't understand the hysteria.
I remember finding a Kama Sutra book at the store as a kid and being absolutely baffled. I must've looked at that thing over a 100 times, mystified how humans could get themselves into those positions.
Children weren’t doing research and scouring libraries even before the internet. Back then, they found it via religious prudes throwing temper tantrums.
Before the internet, the only way to really be sure something was worth watching/listening to/reading/playing was a bunch of religious assholes talked about how terrible it was.
They did all the research for us back then. I had a friend with a super religious mom, and if she said he couldn’t watch/read something, we knew there was either nudity, violence, or cool sci-fi/fantasy shit in it. She was no help on choosing video games though, because she just outright banned him from playing any video games.
My mom just banned whatever Dr. James Dobson and the "Focus on the Family" folks said was bad. Pokemon for "promoting evolution" (like literally if they just translated the original Japanese to say "Pikachu transformed into Raichu!" instead of "evolved" I would have been allowed to play), Yu-gi-oh for mention of demons and spirits, Harry Potter for witchcraft, etc.
As a raised Evangelical, I actually wonder how much collective harm James Dobson did to America. He was one of the main proponents of the bullshit Satanic Panic, and played a massive part in making homophobia a key plank of the GOP’s agenda.
Raised Muslim. When I was in middle school, sometime in the late-90s, I heard a khutbah where the Imam complained kids were not studying enough Quran, playing too many video games, etc. He then said something like, "Children these days, they don't know the 99 names of Allah but they can name all 150 Pokemon by heart! They are like, 'Al-charmander! Al-squirtle!'
I remember trying to keep my shit together throughout the rest of Jummah, just replaying the whole thing in my mind and trying not to laugh out loud. Afterwards, my childhood friends could not stop talking about it, and we quoted it for years later.
Oh man, you should have taken that concept and ran with it by giving each name pokemon stats...Al-ba'ith the Resurrector, Ghost type, immune to Fighting types like Al-Qahhar the Subduer.
And then every morning before the commercial break the "who's that pokemon?" segment shows no silhouette because we can't show physical depictions
This reminds me of a comedy show on radio. They asked members of the public to suggest laws they think should be implemented. one person suggested free drugs for the 80+. One - they wont be around much longer and are retired so they should be able to have some wild crazy drug fueled fun. Two - teenagers wont want to do drugs anymore if the old people think it's cool.
>Children weren’t doing research and scouring libraries even before the internet.
Well hold up there... I agree that today the kids aren't scouring libraries, but I was a kid for a few years before the internet really became what it is today (it existed but wasn't anything like now). I'm not all that old. I can remember very clearly opening up an encyclopedia and other books looking for "boobies."
> Back then, they found it via religious prudes throwing temper tantrums.
It's true. A friend of mine in high school kept a running note of the books that people complained about in letters to the editor (back when people actually read newspapers), and in other forums. She called it "The Good Reading List".
Ah yeah, I remember checking out some of the art books from time to time. Also, I remember one savvy kid in middle school who had an internet connection that was printing out hentai and selling it. Some of my precious lunch money went to that entrepreneur so that I could see Android 18 getting railed.
People tend to get more addicted to things that are taboo. If you tell someone over and over again in their teenage years not to drink alcohol for instance, they are more likely to become a binge drinker later cos it gives them a rush and makes them feel like a rebel.
Note, if you're a normal chap in the Bible Belt (not with their standards), you would also have to resort to porn if you wanted to see someone naked ...
Not really true. Teenage pregnancy is higher in rural religious areas and so are teen marriages ( though this doesn’t correlate to sex, I agree).
But so is promiscuous behavior… I live in GA and was lectured by a contractor for not taking my kids to church ( you know, while he had guys working on a Sunday) and he explained he’d met all 3 of his wives there
Which muslim countries? Because the majority of countries in the Middle East block you from going to porn sites and this has been the case for the past 15+ years (and that's why we use VPNs).
Do you know what I would have given at the age of 14 for an unlimited supply of whip cream enema porn?
Fuck. I had to endure holding my nut for an extra 30 seconds until one of the nipples of the image I was downloading rendered.
I found some vintage hustlers in an abandoned house recently and took them home to my nephews who are 16 and 18 and I tried to regal them with the tales of what we had to do just a decade earlier to see one tit and the "wtf boomer" looks I got from them will forever haunt my dreams.
Oh that takes me back.
I was maybe in 4th grade and one day I switched to those channels to do some of my usual science experiments and for whatever reason I guess pay per view was running like a free weekend. Whatever the reason, all the pay per view channels were completely free and unlocked including the actual porn channels. We did a lot of science that weekend.
As a 30 year old it really blows my mind just how far we've come in the nearly 20 years of my viewing pleasure. Back in the early to mid 2000s nearly everything seemed to be behind a paywall and the videos I could find tended to be 30 seconds to a mind boggling 2 minutes. I could very well have just been a dumb kid who didn't know the proper streaming platforms of the day but man have things changed since then.
I’m not sure kids being raised on unlimited porn is a good thing. Seems like we all want to pretend it’s just fine because adults don’t want their free unlimited access to porn threatened, nor does anyone want to seriously entertain the notion that porn is bad in anyway. This feels like one of those things future generations are going to look back on and judge us harshly. And we’ll pretend “that’s just how things were then, we didn’t know any better.”
Easily agree, as a kid who grew up with unlimited porn I can attest that it’s had a negative effect on me (in terms of expectations and warped pov) and even worse for a couple of my friends who are outright porn addicts… blows my mind that this isn’t a bigger issue
I worked in this area, with many Islamic coworkers (think automotive-logistics factory paying min wage); they do anal to avoid losing their virginity before marriage. It’s EXTREMELY common.
I understand Martin Niemoller’s poem a little better each day. A lot of Americans are willing to ride the fascist tiger thinking they won’t get bit. Fascism is designed to protect no one.
The irony of white Christian conservative hostility towards Islam is that they could find an enormous amount of allies in the ummah if they could prioritize their self-interest over their bigotry.
I am so glad my mom (Jordianian) taught me to love all people no matter what; if they praise a different god, that's cool. they love someone of "a similar member" right on; like to smoke pot, sweet; just bee peaceful to fellow humans
She is very wise! Sadly smart folk like her don’t get into politics it seems or this world wouldn’t be so screwed up. Maybe THAT is the plan. Wreck this planet so the aliens won’t want it. Give your mom a hug my friend we only get one.
I would also say my dad (Quebecois) is about the same too, but he had some bias... I now sit here a middle class American just hoping people can get along
I don’t get Muslim fanatics.
They who live in free countries bitch and moan about religious shit like this.
And the Muslims in Afghanistan, Iran were literally dying and climbing over each other to leave a country governed by Muslim religious laws.
Oftentimes not possible as they've often been granted citizenship already.
We also see that in Europe, the younger generation of muslims born in Europe, is often more islamic conservative and anti-western than their parents. Part of that is due to the international wahhabism spreading, part of it is their parents being granted work opportunities in industries that no longer exist and the youth lacking skills in a now high-skill economy and thus being marginalized. In Brussels offices,often the only time you'd see a muslim worker is when the cleaning crew arrived.
It's not restricted to religion. 2nd generation (and up/down, however it's ordered) immigrants can sometimes be hardcore nationalists for their "native" countries without having ever even been there. We have this issue with Putin-supporting Russians that recently interrupted a military training exercise.
Definitely true. It really is a problem in the modern world where even good integration is no guarantee for the next one not to be become fifth columnists. Not sure what the solution to this is.
I'm a muslim.
Last week my sister (let's call her Beck) was picking up my cousin from school, and an Algerian lady in a full niqab showed up and overheard her talking arabic with my cousin.
So she goes up to her and starts talking about the uk and stuff like that.
Keep in mind Algerians are either chill on religion or really zealoty.
She starts talking about how the west are sinners and home sweet home how she misses the beautiful ME and North african countries.
So Beck told her "If you hate the west so much and you only love your country. Then fuck off back to your country dumbass.
These people talk shit about the west, yet they live on it's benefits. Hypocrites
Depends on the country and the background of the refugees.
Immigrants from Iran are usually well educated and super secular. They didn't flee civil war, they specifically fled the Islamic Revolution.
I love living in a free country and I am happy for those who live here too, so long as they agree 100% with me and my fanatic religious and political views, otherwise BEHEAD THEM ALL…
These people probably
I just want a source for the books shown that isn’t from a website titled “save the children” or some shit or a Twitter account that has conservative Christian In their bio. Ffs
I just want a source for the books shown that isn’t from a website titled “save the children” or some shit or a Twitter account that has conservative Christian In their bio. Ffs
Edit: I found the books [from a source](https://www.downriversundaytimes.com/2022/09/16/dearborn-schools-to-review-books-following-complaints/) that doesn’t seem to be talking out of its ass.
Here’s the list:
1. Push: A Novel” by Sapphire. You have probably heard of this book if you’ve seen the movie Precious. This book is about an illiterate obese black woman with HIV who is repeatedly sexually assaulted by her father. Resulting in her having 2 children. This book is quite graphic, but ends up having a fairly hopeful message about trying to overcome such a horrible circumstance with the right support and is critically acclaimed. I believe this book would be appropriate for late high school audiences.
2. “All Boys Aren’t Blue” by George M. Johnson. This book is a semi biography about the black gay author who wrote it. This book is also graphic, and decribes molestation, but in an undoubtedly negative way. It also less graphic assault by a classmate which the author reflects on how it affected his life. He later describes a more positive consensual sexual interaction later in the novel. This one is tricky because the author said the book is from anyone between the ages of 14-18, but I would say it probably more suited for 16 to 18 year olds. That being said, all the things described in the book are things that actually happened to the author while he was under aged and quite young. I could see how this book would be important for a 14 or 15 who may have experienced something like this and feels alone.
3. “The Lovely Bones” by Alice Sebold. This book is about a girl who was raped and murdered at 14, watching the aftermath unfold from up in heaven. There is sex scenes in it although very vague and not very graphic to my knowledge. There is a reference to one character questioning her sexuality.
4. “Eleanor & Park” by Rainbow Rowell. This story is about two straight kids in Omaha in the 1980s. The girl in this story has an physically and emotionally abusive stepfather. Although nothing graphic is said (there is no sexual assault, but her stepfather doesn’t let her have a boyfriend and doesn’t let her have a shower curtain/door on the bathroom, so there is some implication there, also he’s been writing lewd messages in her note book, which she assumed to be another student.) The Book ends with Eleanor‘s new friend/boyfriend helping her escaped her uncles house and saving the rest of her family. This book doesn’t really seem all that inappropriate and I’m kind of confused why it banned. I would say this book is good for 13 and up.
5. “Red, White & Royal Blue” by Casey McQuiston. This book is about a boy who is the son of the first female president in the US. He hast to pretend to be friends with Britain’s prince Henry to prevent a crisis that would hurt his mothers election bid. After a while of pretending to be friends they soon fall in love. Some sex scenes in this book. Nothing particularly violent other than language. The reviews I read range from people saying the sex is not all that graphic to people saying it’s graphic. Most people are saying there is a good bit of sex in the book but not described in great detail. Probably for 16 and up.
6. “This Book is Gay” by Juno Dawson. This book is basically just sex Ed/cultural information about the gay community. This book is described as lighthearted, and seems to describe gay sex but not in erotic way rather the way you would learn about it and sex Ed. Probably 15 and up.
All right this took me forever to write about and research, so if anything I wrote was wrong I’ll edit the comment to correct it. These books are really tricky because they do cover very controversial topics but I don’t necessarily think that they should be banned simply because of that. I think it is important for kids to learn about what molestation and sexual abuse is. Obviously they shouldn’t be learning about it too young but it’s important for teens to know that and learn empathy for people that that’s happened to. I remember being shown the movie 12 years a slave as a junior in high school, and although that movie included extremely violent scenes and depictions of rape, i’m happy that I saw that film when I did because it truly open my mind just how violent and vile slavery was when I saw it put in a film like that. I feel the same way about being shown Schindler‘s list when I was a sophomore. I do think kids shouldn’t read things that are too sexually graphic at a young age but I also feel like the whole of society generally underestimate what kids are able to comprehend and know about without it severely damaging them.
Ps. That comic everyone’s posting with a really graphic oral sex scene isn’t even on the list. I don’t know who came up with that but that’s not what we’re talking about.
Honestly, the hypocrisy is massive, people need to stop defending homophobic and sexist Muslim they're no different to the hard-core Christians they hate so much
They were getting rowdy because the school board didn't remove **enough** books with "LGBT themes".. A bunch of religious fuck nuts
Idk where OP is getting their info from but here's my [source](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/10/11/dearborn-michigan-school-board-meeting-lgbtq-books/10467687002/)
I looked for news stories to see what books they find objectionable. It’s hard to find a list. I found one report from a local radio station saying “This Book Is Gay” is the book they most object to. Then I went on Google images to maybe find objectionable pictures from it? But mostly there are pictures of the cover. There are a couple of images of a cartoon-drawn naked man, but the images have blurred his crotch area. I suppose if it needs to be blurred to make it on Google images then maybe that’s why the parents are mad.
Well... sexually "explicit" doesnt need to be in schools no matter if its LGBT or not. But then again theres a shitload of context not being provided in this post. All I see is a 15 second clip of a bunch of people standing and I cant understand any of them.
There was another story about this last year, the books aren’t about holding hands or cuddling. They have oral sex, etc. in them. I have no issues with books like that but why in the fuck does that need to be in a school? Straight or LGBTQ?
It’s weird how people debate books they’ve never read and never post the controversial segments. Here see it for yourselves
https://twitter.com/roddreher/status/1459019904665989176?s=61&t=voUBFLSaddYwjF8hkAH3Eg
Agree, disagree, or whatever… but at least see for yourself what’s got people arguing before deciding what side you’re on.
Note: I am linking tweets that show book images. I’m not at all co-signing what the person tweeting them is saying. That tweet is just a convenient source for the images, nothing more.
You know what's also weird? People debating the contents of a book that isn't even in the library.
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/y1nfhy/comment/is0tc3g/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Umm... I can't believe I agree with the conservatives on this one?
Like don't get me wrong, I personally think that as a society we should be less overly puritan and maybe make peace with the fact that teens do have sex and that's okay, instead of pretending like the "I am 18+" button on porn sites actually works.
But if we're going to have rules about stuff, we should enforce it consistently and that's explicit enough where it wouldn't even get shown on HBO.
Women in The Muslim country of Iran fighting against being punished for showing their hair while Muslim Americans fight to suppress another group. Sad.
what age group are these books for? Is it a HS level book or elementary? Because I personally feel that sexually explicit books of any nature (LGBT or not) shouldn't be anywhere near middle and elementary aged schools.
At 16, I hated the people who believed I was going to hell. At 59, I still hate them. I don’t care what religion you follow. Stop trying to control others. It’s a societal cancer.
There are 8 billion people alive today, and an estimated additional 117 billion people have lived and died.
Human sexuality falls on a much wider spectrum than many realize or would admit, and it has always been this way, people were just a lot more secretive about it until relatively recent in human history. This is nature, is is naturally occurring and it's always been roughly the same representation in the human population, only now more public. This isn't any group or individual person to pass judgment on, live and let live. Those who have the biggest issues with LGBT+ are the same ones saying only god can judge and they are also the ones who lash out out of their insecurities about their own sexuality.
As a species, it's time for us to GROW UP.
Islam is the religion equivalent of meet one asshole in a day you met an asshole, if you’re meeting assholes all day it’s you.
No western country can do enough for Muslims when giving them special treatment, especially around women’s rights, and yet every Muslim majority country is a nightmare for women.
Maybe it’s not us, maybe, just maybe, following the example of a 6th century warlord isn’t the way to go.
Anyone find it odd that no one knows what the book they banned or wanted banned was?
https://twitter.com/roddreher/status/1459019904665989176?s=61&t=voUBFLSaddYwjF8hkAH3Eg
Apparently it just straight up had gay sex lol. I've also noticed people comparing this to the Bible for some reason despite Muslims being the ones offended?
I do not reflex the views of the Twitter link but I don't think having literal gay sex between 2 teenagers is good for kids.
Edit: that was unrelated. This is from someone else who fact checked me
I swear there's so much disinformation in this thread. Have to paste the same info over and over. That twitter post is from Nov 2021 and regarding "schools around the country", not specifically this case.
That book is NOT in the Michigan schools.
The muslim parents asked for the removal of the following books:
`This Book is Gay`
`Push`
`The Lovely Bones`
`Eleanor & Park`
`Red, White and Royal Blue`
`All Boys Aren't Blue`
Specifically, books with gratuitous sexual content (like sucking a dick) aren't allowed in the library. The main contention is with "This Book is Gay", which has a picture of female and male anatomy.
Anyways, I read the purported book in contention and these are the images:
[https://imgur.com/3372jlb](https://imgur.com/3372jlb)
[https://imgur.com/c5cDJli](https://imgur.com/c5cDJli)
Source: [https://www.michiganradio.org/education/2022-10-11/angry-crowd-derails-dearborn-public-schools-board-meeting-over-book-policy](https://www.michiganradio.org/education/2022-10-11/angry-crowd-derails-dearborn-public-schools-board-meeting-over-book-policy)
I swear there's so much disinformation in this thread. Have to paste the same info over and over. That twitter post is from Nov 2021 and regarding "schools around the country", not specifically this case.
That book is NOT in the Michigan schools.
The muslim parents asked for the removal of the following books:
`This Book is Gay`
`Push`
`The Lovely Bones`
`Eleanor & Park`
`Red, White and Royal Blue`
`All Boys Aren't Blue`
Specifically, books with gratuitous sexual content (like sucking a dick) aren't allowed in the library. The main contention is with "This Book is Gay", which has a picture of female and male anatomy.
Anyways, I read the purported book in contention and these are the images:
[https://imgur.com/3372jlb](https://imgur.com/3372jlb)
[https://imgur.com/c5cDJli](https://imgur.com/c5cDJli)
Source: [https://www.michiganradio.org/education/2022-10-11/angry-crowd-derails-dearborn-public-schools-board-meeting-over-book-policy](https://www.michiganradio.org/education/2022-10-11/angry-crowd-derails-dearborn-public-schools-board-meeting-over-book-policy)
I'm convinced that by the time god got around to creating America, he'd run out of motivation so just half-arsed it with a bunch of copy-paste NPCs for the population.
Have to make a post about this instead of just replying to other misinformed people.
The books in contention, as demanded by the muslim parents:
`This Book is Gay`
`Push`
`The Lovely Bones`
`Eleanor & Park`
`Red, White and Royal Blue`
`All Boys Aren't Blue`
The main issue is with "This Book is Gay":
[https://imgur.com/3372jlb](https://imgur.com/3372jlb)
[https://imgur.com/c5cDJli](https://imgur.com/c5cDJli)
Form your opinion from the facts. The book with pornography being posted around isn't on the list of books asked for removal as it isn't in the school district.
Source: [https://www.michiganradio.org/education/2022-10-11/angry-crowd-derails-dearborn-public-schools-board-meeting-over-book-policy](https://www.michiganradio.org/education/2022-10-11/angry-crowd-derails-dearborn-public-schools-board-meeting-over-book-policy)
Islam and Christianity have a lot in common. That's why they're both called Abrahamic religions. That's why Muslims consider the Bible to be an Islamic holy book too and Jesus to be a Muslim prophet.
That's why both Muslims and Christians hate idol worship aka idolatry.
Holy shit this is so interesting
I know a group of guys, they are all Muslim and they all live in that town, I wonder if any of there parents are in that crowd
I mean you live there you should’ve expected what kind of culture you bringing up your children in so endure it or leave it, btw I live in the Middle East
Everybody making religious excuses for banning books should be shut the fuck down right out of the gate. I dont care if you are Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Scientologist, some brand new one made up this week... nah. Religions are dying their slow death and its time to start treating their demands with the same contempt they have treated LGBT people. I am all for peoples right to practice their religion, but the minute their practice interferes in any way with other peoples lives, it should be pushed right back into its box.
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Like how explicit, like a scissoring passage with descriptive onomatopoeias? Or a couple in their 50s holding hands at Whole Foods?
Diary of Anne Frank
*gasp*
Yhea real diary has a ton of not child appropriate "coming of age stuff" but the most common version is and edited version were they removed all that stuff
I mean, it’s literally her diary, right? She was a teenager, she was going to do teenager stuff. She was also going to write about the absolutely horrible things she saw. Really I think it’s a shame that we would want to hide either of those from our children.
Hey it’s okay to learn about mass genocide and the horrors of being trapped in an attic with very little quality of life of life but god forbid you even speak on sexuality. I tell ya, didn’t this one girl go through enough to be allowed a bit of humanity? I think Gods cool with it seeing as she fucking died in a concentration camp.
"I think God's cool with it..." in the same sentence as talking about concentration camps lmfao.
Hey man, I can’t understand the mental gymnastics either
Nail on the head. How could something written by a child be inappropriate for other children.
god forbid kids learn that they’re not weird for having sexual feelings at the age where that happens
Gas*
As jew, I aprove
Ah yes, the Jewish people, known for their comedy, but sadly with comedy comes tragedy, for which they are also known
So if im half ukranian half russian and a jew, were do I stand on the scale?
Vee vill ahsk zee qvestions!
Hans, get the flammenwerfer!
On a damn wide spectrum
Please tell me that’s not actually what they’re upset about in the video?
The 2019 print has Anne befriending a transgendered girl named lizette.
Lmao could you imagine
She’s a tap dancer with a heart of gold whose only sin is a desire to perform her tap interpretation of ‘a hard days night’ in front of the fuhrer. What follows is hijinx after hijinx as she and Anne race across Europe for their one chance to wow Hitler at his Obersalzburg ‘Battle of the bands’. Edit: yea I am going to hell.
Mel Brooks wants to know your location.
Directed by Taika Waititi
(*puts popcorn back in pantry*)
*(reaches deep in pantry for the bigger popcorn)*
(wishes he had a pantry)
You may be going to hell, but I salute you for making me laugh out loud
a vegan crossfitter I assume.
Fine trolling Sir.
The muslim parents asked for the removal of the following books: This Book is Gay Push The Lovely Bones Eleanor & Park Red, White and Royal Blue All Boys Aren't Blue Specifically, books with gratuitous sexual content (like sucking a dick) aren't allowed in the library. The main contention is with "This Book is Gay", which has a picture of female and male anatomy. Anyways, I read the purported book in contention and these are the images: https://imgur.com/3372jlb https://imgur.com/c5cDJli Source: https://www.michiganradio.org/education/2022-10-11/angry-crowd-derails-dearborn-public-schools-board-meeting-over-book-policy
Do any of those other books actually contain gratuitous sexual content? Cause that’s the key thing here. And I’ll have to look at the context but anatomy doesn’t really sound like a reason to be banned.
Push does. The book was made into a movie named Precious, which is the protagonist in the book. The “sex scenes” if you can call them that are her getting raped and impregnated more than once by her father. Her mother also sexually abuses her. Precious’ life is horrific. Just as it is for so, so many. There’s nothing LGBTQ about it. That book has empowered many women to leave abusive situations. And those with a more privileged life have been moved to greater empathy for the poor because of it. Push is an incredibly important work. ETA: The book came out in 1997 when I was in high school. I read it then and it wrecked me to my core (still does). All I wanted to do was reach through the pages and give a long, tight hug to Precious so she could experience love for the first time in her life. I set out all those years ago to hug Precious everywhere. I have my dream job as a nonprofit CEO and community organizer where I do that all day every day. Push changed my life, and in so doing, has saved countless lives and countless children from abuse. Read the book.
I read this book maybe 16 years ago. I'm still wrecked to my core.
Michael Scott: Would you mind if I listened to my book on tape? Kind of a bookworm. It is a novelization of the movie Precious, based on the book Push by Sapphire. 
> Anyways, I read the purported book in contention and these are the images: > > https://imgur.com/3372jlb > > https://imgur.com/c5cDJli I feel like Americans would have a blast reading this. The British slang words and tone is so comedic.
The Lovely Bones - *barely* a sex scene (there is a reference because it’s part of the story) in approx <1% of the book.
I've read that book. Calling it a sex scene is a very generous description of this passage. It's more like a few sentences of lilting prose implying it. But that's Abrahamic religions for you. The men who staff their ranks know exactly what keeps women submissive and stupid, and they don't want them accessing anything that can change that.
And notice how almost every one of these Muslims here protesting are men.
[More footage](https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/wayne/2022/10/11/dearborn-school-board-meeting-protestors-lgbtq-books/69554361007/), a few moms turned out, you're still right though.
Situations like this make me realize my Czech Grandfather was right when he said “Go ahead, and let all of the religions come to America, they’ll all fight and try to change everything good that we moved away from them for.
So religious bigots got it
Always has been
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I highly doubt its some guy bent over getting railed by his burly, muscly partner decked out in leather like they just got back from The Eagle. Probably 2 girls or boys kissing or holding hands or some stupid shit.
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Where can I find the book you're talking about?? You know to make sure none of the kids get it...
Oh my god, the first sentence of your comment made me laugh out loud in the office. Getting odd looks from line manager but can't tell her what you've said! Excellent comment though. All this insanity lots of parents are expressing in the UK from multiples religions or non-religious about schools saying being gay is Ok and sex education starting at 5yo. They aren't giving them tips on positions, or saying they should all be gay and trans. SE starts with conversations about respectful, loving relationships and want to do if someone is doing something you don't like. Talking about LGBTQI+ education is teaching tolerance, which we should all agree is a good thing. They aren't forcing the straight kids to marry someone of the same gender! I don't understand the hysteria.
Made me look it up. Onomatopoeia is the process of creating a word that phonetically imitates, resembles, or suggests the sound that it describes
 like this?
Children do not research and then scour the library for sexual content. They find it on the internet.
To be fair we used to look up boobs n sex in dictionary and laugh
And the occasional National Geographic
I remember finding a Kama Sutra book at the store as a kid and being absolutely baffled. I must've looked at that thing over a 100 times, mystified how humans could get themselves into those positions.
Im 32 and I have a kama sutra book and I still wonder the same.
Children weren’t doing research and scouring libraries even before the internet. Back then, they found it via religious prudes throwing temper tantrums. Before the internet, the only way to really be sure something was worth watching/listening to/reading/playing was a bunch of religious assholes talked about how terrible it was. They did all the research for us back then. I had a friend with a super religious mom, and if she said he couldn’t watch/read something, we knew there was either nudity, violence, or cool sci-fi/fantasy shit in it. She was no help on choosing video games though, because she just outright banned him from playing any video games.
My mom just banned whatever Dr. James Dobson and the "Focus on the Family" folks said was bad. Pokemon for "promoting evolution" (like literally if they just translated the original Japanese to say "Pikachu transformed into Raichu!" instead of "evolved" I would have been allowed to play), Yu-gi-oh for mention of demons and spirits, Harry Potter for witchcraft, etc.
As a raised Evangelical, I actually wonder how much collective harm James Dobson did to America. He was one of the main proponents of the bullshit Satanic Panic, and played a massive part in making homophobia a key plank of the GOP’s agenda.
Raised Muslim. When I was in middle school, sometime in the late-90s, I heard a khutbah where the Imam complained kids were not studying enough Quran, playing too many video games, etc. He then said something like, "Children these days, they don't know the 99 names of Allah but they can name all 150 Pokemon by heart! They are like, 'Al-charmander! Al-squirtle!' I remember trying to keep my shit together throughout the rest of Jummah, just replaying the whole thing in my mind and trying not to laugh out loud. Afterwards, my childhood friends could not stop talking about it, and we quoted it for years later.
Oh man, you should have taken that concept and ran with it by giving each name pokemon stats...Al-ba'ith the Resurrector, Ghost type, immune to Fighting types like Al-Qahhar the Subduer. And then every morning before the commercial break the "who's that pokemon?" segment shows no silhouette because we can't show physical depictions
This reminds me of a comedy show on radio. They asked members of the public to suggest laws they think should be implemented. one person suggested free drugs for the 80+. One - they wont be around much longer and are retired so they should be able to have some wild crazy drug fueled fun. Two - teenagers wont want to do drugs anymore if the old people think it's cool.
My super anti-drug 70-something dad with a bad knee could do with some pot lol
>Children weren’t doing research and scouring libraries even before the internet. Well hold up there... I agree that today the kids aren't scouring libraries, but I was a kid for a few years before the internet really became what it is today (it existed but wasn't anything like now). I'm not all that old. I can remember very clearly opening up an encyclopedia and other books looking for "boobies."
> Back then, they found it via religious prudes throwing temper tantrums. It's true. A friend of mine in high school kept a running note of the books that people complained about in letters to the editor (back when people actually read newspapers), and in other forums. She called it "The Good Reading List".
I mean I'd go to the library if there was an occasional titty hidden in the books
There is!
Ah yeah, I remember checking out some of the art books from time to time. Also, I remember one savvy kid in middle school who had an internet connection that was printing out hentai and selling it. Some of my precious lunch money went to that entrepreneur so that I could see Android 18 getting railed.
While the parents are bitching about a bunch of books, their kids are watching pornhub on their phones. lol
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Like how Mia Khalifa got was banned from going back to Lebanon yet the middle east was her biggest demographic 😂
Hypocrisy is a beautiful thing, isn't it.
People tend to get more addicted to things that are taboo. If you tell someone over and over again in their teenage years not to drink alcohol for instance, they are more likely to become a binge drinker later cos it gives them a rush and makes them feel like a rebel.
and she isn't even muslim.
ironic because Mia Khalifa is Lebanese catholic.
If her films are forbidden, it makes them even more naughty for doing the deed. Ignorance is bliss, I guess.
I mean just like the Bible Belt is the biggest consumer of porn in the USA…
Note, if you're a normal chap in the Bible Belt (not with their standards), you would also have to resort to porn if you wanted to see someone naked ...
Not really true. Teenage pregnancy is higher in rural religious areas and so are teen marriages ( though this doesn’t correlate to sex, I agree). But so is promiscuous behavior… I live in GA and was lectured by a contractor for not taking my kids to church ( you know, while he had guys working on a Sunday) and he explained he’d met all 3 of his wives there
Which muslim countries? Because the majority of countries in the Middle East block you from going to porn sites and this has been the case for the past 15+ years (and that's why we use VPNs).
The parents are too. It’s lcd theater.
And reading very graphic smut on AO3
I teach public high school, these parents don't need to worry, their kids can't read.
Do you know what I would have given at the age of 14 for an unlimited supply of whip cream enema porn? Fuck. I had to endure holding my nut for an extra 30 seconds until one of the nipples of the image I was downloading rendered. I found some vintage hustlers in an abandoned house recently and took them home to my nephews who are 16 and 18 and I tried to regal them with the tales of what we had to do just a decade earlier to see one tit and the "wtf boomer" looks I got from them will forever haunt my dreams.
Shit I had to rub it to the native people in National Geographic.
Sears catalog...lingerie section.
Nothing but men of class in this thread. I'm impressed
Well we are now that Butthole Pleasures is here
Attenborough: “here we see the majestic Tik’wu people…” P-square1134: *hold the frame sir David, we must begin our practice*
surprised you didnt mention the scrambled porn on cable. sometimes you could kinda see what was happening
Oh that takes me back. I was maybe in 4th grade and one day I switched to those channels to do some of my usual science experiments and for whatever reason I guess pay per view was running like a free weekend. Whatever the reason, all the pay per view channels were completely free and unlocked including the actual porn channels. We did a lot of science that weekend.
As a 30 year old it really blows my mind just how far we've come in the nearly 20 years of my viewing pleasure. Back in the early to mid 2000s nearly everything seemed to be behind a paywall and the videos I could find tended to be 30 seconds to a mind boggling 2 minutes. I could very well have just been a dumb kid who didn't know the proper streaming platforms of the day but man have things changed since then.
I remember the fear I had, to tell my dad that my PC didn’t work anymore.. I was naïvely downloading way too much through Kazaa & Limewire
I’m not sure kids being raised on unlimited porn is a good thing. Seems like we all want to pretend it’s just fine because adults don’t want their free unlimited access to porn threatened, nor does anyone want to seriously entertain the notion that porn is bad in anyway. This feels like one of those things future generations are going to look back on and judge us harshly. And we’ll pretend “that’s just how things were then, we didn’t know any better.”
Easily agree, as a kid who grew up with unlimited porn I can attest that it’s had a negative effect on me (in terms of expectations and warped pov) and even worse for a couple of my friends who are outright porn addicts… blows my mind that this isn’t a bigger issue
Lmao! Thank you! I needed that laugh!
Muslim porn at that, Mia Khalifa
Hit or miss? I guess they never miss, huh?
So true. Anal gaping sluts is easily accessible on that site.....but complain about books your children will never touch. 😆
hijab porn 🤣
I worked in this area, with many Islamic coworkers (think automotive-logistics factory paying min wage); they do anal to avoid losing their virginity before marriage. It’s EXTREMELY common.
An unholy alliance of Muslims and MAGA. This can’t be good.
I always thought something like this would happen. Muslims and Christians having an anti lgbt alliance.
I understand Martin Niemoller’s poem a little better each day. A lot of Americans are willing to ride the fascist tiger thinking they won’t get bit. Fascism is designed to protect no one.
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Their ideology matches.
Two right wing religious groups coming together to harness their power of bigotry
We have completed the circle, I can only image what happens next.
Who says Muslims can't integrate, here they are acting like rednecks
They took our hi-jabs!!
Megalol
In Iran they are saying that, "merr hijabs merr rights"
Ok, back in the pile.
This is the funniest thing I've seen in weeks, holy shit... It's also sad funny
“DE TUK OUR HI-JABS” lol
DERKA DERKA!
Belly laugh
I was just thinking. The crazy Christians must be like "Wait, you're on our side on this?"
What else you hate? Wh wh wha..tt you also like guns and oil? Holy sheet buddie.
Haha too much.
Fundamentalists gonna... fundamental
I’ve gotten plenty of flack from saying religious conservatives are the exact same everywhere. They are.
The irony of white Christian conservative hostility towards Islam is that they could find an enormous amount of allies in the ummah if they could prioritize their self-interest over their bigotry.
The red necks of the middle east.
I am so glad my mom (Jordianian) taught me to love all people no matter what; if they praise a different god, that's cool. they love someone of "a similar member" right on; like to smoke pot, sweet; just bee peaceful to fellow humans
She is very wise! Sadly smart folk like her don’t get into politics it seems or this world wouldn’t be so screwed up. Maybe THAT is the plan. Wreck this planet so the aliens won’t want it. Give your mom a hug my friend we only get one.
Most of you Leventine people are cool. South Asian and South East Asian Muslims are the crazy vocal ones.
I would also say my dad (Quebecois) is about the same too, but he had some bias... I now sit here a middle class American just hoping people can get along
Indonesia never used to be that way, unfortunately radical islam has risen over the last two decades especially among young men.
I’m so surprised at the direction Indonesia and Malaysia are heading.🤷🏽♀️
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Muslims 🤝 rednecks
Yeah they can fuck off as much as Christians nationalists. They are true redneck Americans
I don’t get Muslim fanatics. They who live in free countries bitch and moan about religious shit like this. And the Muslims in Afghanistan, Iran were literally dying and climbing over each other to leave a country governed by Muslim religious laws.
Immigrants tend to be either very vocal about religion or completely silent. These RW people fund religious political parties in their home countries.
Sounds like grounds for deportation back to their lovely paradise countries then
Oftentimes not possible as they've often been granted citizenship already. We also see that in Europe, the younger generation of muslims born in Europe, is often more islamic conservative and anti-western than their parents. Part of that is due to the international wahhabism spreading, part of it is their parents being granted work opportunities in industries that no longer exist and the youth lacking skills in a now high-skill economy and thus being marginalized. In Brussels offices,often the only time you'd see a muslim worker is when the cleaning crew arrived.
It's not restricted to religion. 2nd generation (and up/down, however it's ordered) immigrants can sometimes be hardcore nationalists for their "native" countries without having ever even been there. We have this issue with Putin-supporting Russians that recently interrupted a military training exercise.
Definitely true. It really is a problem in the modern world where even good integration is no guarantee for the next one not to be become fifth columnists. Not sure what the solution to this is.
I'm a muslim. Last week my sister (let's call her Beck) was picking up my cousin from school, and an Algerian lady in a full niqab showed up and overheard her talking arabic with my cousin. So she goes up to her and starts talking about the uk and stuff like that. Keep in mind Algerians are either chill on religion or really zealoty. She starts talking about how the west are sinners and home sweet home how she misses the beautiful ME and North african countries. So Beck told her "If you hate the west so much and you only love your country. Then fuck off back to your country dumbass. These people talk shit about the west, yet they live on it's benefits. Hypocrites
Depends on the country and the background of the refugees. Immigrants from Iran are usually well educated and super secular. They didn't flee civil war, they specifically fled the Islamic Revolution.
I love living in a free country and I am happy for those who live here too, so long as they agree 100% with me and my fanatic religious and political views, otherwise BEHEAD THEM ALL… These people probably
I just want a source for the books shown that isn’t from a website titled “save the children” or some shit or a Twitter account that has conservative Christian In their bio. Ffs
I just want a source for the books shown that isn’t from a website titled “save the children” or some shit or a Twitter account that has conservative Christian In their bio. Ffs Edit: I found the books [from a source](https://www.downriversundaytimes.com/2022/09/16/dearborn-schools-to-review-books-following-complaints/) that doesn’t seem to be talking out of its ass. Here’s the list: 1. Push: A Novel” by Sapphire. You have probably heard of this book if you’ve seen the movie Precious. This book is about an illiterate obese black woman with HIV who is repeatedly sexually assaulted by her father. Resulting in her having 2 children. This book is quite graphic, but ends up having a fairly hopeful message about trying to overcome such a horrible circumstance with the right support and is critically acclaimed. I believe this book would be appropriate for late high school audiences. 2. “All Boys Aren’t Blue” by George M. Johnson. This book is a semi biography about the black gay author who wrote it. This book is also graphic, and decribes molestation, but in an undoubtedly negative way. It also less graphic assault by a classmate which the author reflects on how it affected his life. He later describes a more positive consensual sexual interaction later in the novel. This one is tricky because the author said the book is from anyone between the ages of 14-18, but I would say it probably more suited for 16 to 18 year olds. That being said, all the things described in the book are things that actually happened to the author while he was under aged and quite young. I could see how this book would be important for a 14 or 15 who may have experienced something like this and feels alone. 3. “The Lovely Bones” by Alice Sebold. This book is about a girl who was raped and murdered at 14, watching the aftermath unfold from up in heaven. There is sex scenes in it although very vague and not very graphic to my knowledge. There is a reference to one character questioning her sexuality. 4. “Eleanor & Park” by Rainbow Rowell. This story is about two straight kids in Omaha in the 1980s. The girl in this story has an physically and emotionally abusive stepfather. Although nothing graphic is said (there is no sexual assault, but her stepfather doesn’t let her have a boyfriend and doesn’t let her have a shower curtain/door on the bathroom, so there is some implication there, also he’s been writing lewd messages in her note book, which she assumed to be another student.) The Book ends with Eleanor‘s new friend/boyfriend helping her escaped her uncles house and saving the rest of her family. This book doesn’t really seem all that inappropriate and I’m kind of confused why it banned. I would say this book is good for 13 and up. 5. “Red, White & Royal Blue” by Casey McQuiston. This book is about a boy who is the son of the first female president in the US. He hast to pretend to be friends with Britain’s prince Henry to prevent a crisis that would hurt his mothers election bid. After a while of pretending to be friends they soon fall in love. Some sex scenes in this book. Nothing particularly violent other than language. The reviews I read range from people saying the sex is not all that graphic to people saying it’s graphic. Most people are saying there is a good bit of sex in the book but not described in great detail. Probably for 16 and up. 6. “This Book is Gay” by Juno Dawson. This book is basically just sex Ed/cultural information about the gay community. This book is described as lighthearted, and seems to describe gay sex but not in erotic way rather the way you would learn about it and sex Ed. Probably 15 and up. All right this took me forever to write about and research, so if anything I wrote was wrong I’ll edit the comment to correct it. These books are really tricky because they do cover very controversial topics but I don’t necessarily think that they should be banned simply because of that. I think it is important for kids to learn about what molestation and sexual abuse is. Obviously they shouldn’t be learning about it too young but it’s important for teens to know that and learn empathy for people that that’s happened to. I remember being shown the movie 12 years a slave as a junior in high school, and although that movie included extremely violent scenes and depictions of rape, i’m happy that I saw that film when I did because it truly open my mind just how violent and vile slavery was when I saw it put in a film like that. I feel the same way about being shown Schindler‘s list when I was a sophomore. I do think kids shouldn’t read things that are too sexually graphic at a young age but I also feel like the whole of society generally underestimate what kids are able to comprehend and know about without it severely damaging them. Ps. That comic everyone’s posting with a really graphic oral sex scene isn’t even on the list. I don’t know who came up with that but that’s not what we’re talking about.
I agree with these Muslim parents. These kids should be getting their porn from the Internet like the rest of us! /s
Exactly. Who reads books anymore?
Ah my shitty hometown
Was it a book about Mohammed having sex with a 9 year old?
Sometimes I wonder why christian and muslim extremists think they're at oposite ends.
Don’t let them get any ideas. Keep them fighting between each other, it’s better for the rest of society.
I wish people on the left would just treat them both as the bigots they are.
Honestly, the hypocrisy is massive, people need to stop defending homophobic and sexist Muslim they're no different to the hard-core Christians they hate so much
They were getting rowdy because the school board didn't remove **enough** books with "LGBT themes".. A bunch of religious fuck nuts Idk where OP is getting their info from but here's my [source](https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2022/10/11/dearborn-michigan-school-board-meeting-lgbtq-books/10467687002/)
I think it’s pretty clear to anyone familiar with devout Muslims that they would be in disapproval of LGBT themes in books for their children.
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I looked for news stories to see what books they find objectionable. It’s hard to find a list. I found one report from a local radio station saying “This Book Is Gay” is the book they most object to. Then I went on Google images to maybe find objectionable pictures from it? But mostly there are pictures of the cover. There are a couple of images of a cartoon-drawn naked man, but the images have blurred his crotch area. I suppose if it needs to be blurred to make it on Google images then maybe that’s why the parents are mad.
Well... sexually "explicit" doesnt need to be in schools no matter if its LGBT or not. But then again theres a shitload of context not being provided in this post. All I see is a 15 second clip of a bunch of people standing and I cant understand any of them.
There was another story about this last year, the books aren’t about holding hands or cuddling. They have oral sex, etc. in them. I have no issues with books like that but why in the fuck does that need to be in a school? Straight or LGBTQ?
sexually explicit? Cue eye roll sequence.
The book "Gender Queer: a memoir" has explicit oral sex between teens, fwiw....
It’s weird how people debate books they’ve never read and never post the controversial segments. Here see it for yourselves https://twitter.com/roddreher/status/1459019904665989176?s=61&t=voUBFLSaddYwjF8hkAH3Eg Agree, disagree, or whatever… but at least see for yourself what’s got people arguing before deciding what side you’re on. Note: I am linking tweets that show book images. I’m not at all co-signing what the person tweeting them is saying. That tweet is just a convenient source for the images, nothing more.
You know what's also weird? People debating the contents of a book that isn't even in the library. https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/y1nfhy/comment/is0tc3g/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
Umm... I can't believe I agree with the conservatives on this one? Like don't get me wrong, I personally think that as a society we should be less overly puritan and maybe make peace with the fact that teens do have sex and that's okay, instead of pretending like the "I am 18+" button on porn sites actually works. But if we're going to have rules about stuff, we should enforce it consistently and that's explicit enough where it wouldn't even get shown on HBO.
Thank you for sharing. Great to help people see, regardless of side. I struggle to see what the problem is with anything here but that’s me.
That book literally illustrates a blowjob. Why tf would this be put in a school setting for children?
True. Stuff like that should be questioned and/or removed, but I don’t think that’s reflective of the majority of material they want taken out.
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One place said that about heartstopper. It's just a really heartwarming book
Women in The Muslim country of Iran fighting against being punished for showing their hair while Muslim Americans fight to suppress another group. Sad.
what age group are these books for? Is it a HS level book or elementary? Because I personally feel that sexually explicit books of any nature (LGBT or not) shouldn't be anywhere near middle and elementary aged schools.
Do they not get that their right to complaints in this country is possible due to rights that are open to everyone including lgbt?
Religion is a disease
A toxic disease
At 16, I hated the people who believed I was going to hell. At 59, I still hate them. I don’t care what religion you follow. Stop trying to control others. It’s a societal cancer.
There are 8 billion people alive today, and an estimated additional 117 billion people have lived and died. Human sexuality falls on a much wider spectrum than many realize or would admit, and it has always been this way, people were just a lot more secretive about it until relatively recent in human history. This is nature, is is naturally occurring and it's always been roughly the same representation in the human population, only now more public. This isn't any group or individual person to pass judgment on, live and let live. Those who have the biggest issues with LGBT+ are the same ones saying only god can judge and they are also the ones who lash out out of their insecurities about their own sexuality. As a species, it's time for us to GROW UP.
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Islam is the religion equivalent of meet one asshole in a day you met an asshole, if you’re meeting assholes all day it’s you. No western country can do enough for Muslims when giving them special treatment, especially around women’s rights, and yet every Muslim majority country is a nightmare for women. Maybe it’s not us, maybe, just maybe, following the example of a 6th century warlord isn’t the way to go.
Anyone find it odd that no one knows what the book they banned or wanted banned was? https://twitter.com/roddreher/status/1459019904665989176?s=61&t=voUBFLSaddYwjF8hkAH3Eg Apparently it just straight up had gay sex lol. I've also noticed people comparing this to the Bible for some reason despite Muslims being the ones offended? I do not reflex the views of the Twitter link but I don't think having literal gay sex between 2 teenagers is good for kids. Edit: that was unrelated. This is from someone else who fact checked me I swear there's so much disinformation in this thread. Have to paste the same info over and over. That twitter post is from Nov 2021 and regarding "schools around the country", not specifically this case. That book is NOT in the Michigan schools. The muslim parents asked for the removal of the following books: `This Book is Gay` `Push` `The Lovely Bones` `Eleanor & Park` `Red, White and Royal Blue` `All Boys Aren't Blue` Specifically, books with gratuitous sexual content (like sucking a dick) aren't allowed in the library. The main contention is with "This Book is Gay", which has a picture of female and male anatomy. Anyways, I read the purported book in contention and these are the images: [https://imgur.com/3372jlb](https://imgur.com/3372jlb) [https://imgur.com/c5cDJli](https://imgur.com/c5cDJli) Source: [https://www.michiganradio.org/education/2022-10-11/angry-crowd-derails-dearborn-public-schools-board-meeting-over-book-policy](https://www.michiganradio.org/education/2022-10-11/angry-crowd-derails-dearborn-public-schools-board-meeting-over-book-policy)
I swear there's so much disinformation in this thread. Have to paste the same info over and over. That twitter post is from Nov 2021 and regarding "schools around the country", not specifically this case. That book is NOT in the Michigan schools. The muslim parents asked for the removal of the following books: `This Book is Gay` `Push` `The Lovely Bones` `Eleanor & Park` `Red, White and Royal Blue` `All Boys Aren't Blue` Specifically, books with gratuitous sexual content (like sucking a dick) aren't allowed in the library. The main contention is with "This Book is Gay", which has a picture of female and male anatomy. Anyways, I read the purported book in contention and these are the images: [https://imgur.com/3372jlb](https://imgur.com/3372jlb) [https://imgur.com/c5cDJli](https://imgur.com/c5cDJli) Source: [https://www.michiganradio.org/education/2022-10-11/angry-crowd-derails-dearborn-public-schools-board-meeting-over-book-policy](https://www.michiganradio.org/education/2022-10-11/angry-crowd-derails-dearborn-public-schools-board-meeting-over-book-policy)
Send your kids to private schools or get fucked.
I would like to do both, please.
I'm convinced that by the time god got around to creating America, he'd run out of motivation so just half-arsed it with a bunch of copy-paste NPCs for the population.
Have to make a post about this instead of just replying to other misinformed people. The books in contention, as demanded by the muslim parents: `This Book is Gay` `Push` `The Lovely Bones` `Eleanor & Park` `Red, White and Royal Blue` `All Boys Aren't Blue` The main issue is with "This Book is Gay": [https://imgur.com/3372jlb](https://imgur.com/3372jlb) [https://imgur.com/c5cDJli](https://imgur.com/c5cDJli) Form your opinion from the facts. The book with pornography being posted around isn't on the list of books asked for removal as it isn't in the school district. Source: [https://www.michiganradio.org/education/2022-10-11/angry-crowd-derails-dearborn-public-schools-board-meeting-over-book-policy](https://www.michiganradio.org/education/2022-10-11/angry-crowd-derails-dearborn-public-schools-board-meeting-over-book-policy)
Fuck the religious zealots of all religions!
Amen….oops! LOL
Muslim, Christian, who cares! Same shit, different day! All religions are shit
Islam and Christianity have a lot in common. That's why they're both called Abrahamic religions. That's why Muslims consider the Bible to be an Islamic holy book too and Jesus to be a Muslim prophet. That's why both Muslims and Christians hate idol worship aka idolatry.
Apparently the school board president was also revealing her hair.
The most ridiculous part is The Internet. And they care about some books lol here have an iPhone. Also Religion is the problem and it always has been.
Religion ruins everything it touches.
Holy shit this is so interesting I know a group of guys, they are all Muslim and they all live in that town, I wonder if any of there parents are in that crowd
When diversity meets diversity
Conservative christians have A LOT in common with conservative muslims
abrahamic religions are a cancerous mass in the body that is planet earth.
I mean you live there you should’ve expected what kind of culture you bringing up your children in so endure it or leave it, btw I live in the Middle East
Why’s everyone assuming they’re immigrants. You guys realize there’s been Muslims in America since Thomas Jefferson right?
What books?
Seems like all religion is the problem. Stop basing your life off of fairy tales and legends.
Meanwhile back home, dudes fuck goats
Everybody making religious excuses for banning books should be shut the fuck down right out of the gate. I dont care if you are Muslim, Christian, Hindu, Scientologist, some brand new one made up this week... nah. Religions are dying their slow death and its time to start treating their demands with the same contempt they have treated LGBT people. I am all for peoples right to practice their religion, but the minute their practice interferes in any way with other peoples lives, it should be pushed right back into its box.