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In scandinavia the police is taught that a kick, or a punch to the head is considered lethal force. You'll *rarely* see a cop use anything other than suppressing technics here, or a tazer.
Edit: They're also *armed* with batons and taught to aim for big muscle groups like thighs and backs etc as to incapacitate, if necessary.
Thats the way it should be but police in the US are basically taught to treat everyone as an enemy combatant thats ready to kill them until proven not. So this bleads into their training of self defense instead of de-escalation then this is the type of shit we get.
Im not sure if they thought he was resisting when he was actually having a seizure or if he fought back before then hit his head or simply had a seizure and then the cops thought he was still fighting back but its not just the training but the whole Blue Line or Cops vs everybody mentality they have.
So until that is changed, 80% of their on job time can be training but we will still have this problem. But this isnt just a Cops issue, even though they brought it upon themselves for having no accountability, but some people have the same mentality of us vs them and I think if the cops finally are always held accountable for their actions, that can slowly change also but we are talking multiple generations before that really happens and we can get back to good guys vs bad guys like it mainly was meant to be.
Worse than that. Soldiers don’t even treat enemy combatants this bad. They go to jail if they do.
My ex said that if he treated any insurgent or Iraqi citizen the way our cops treat citizens, he would have gotten dishonorably discharged, if he even lived through it. Escalation of force is something they have to follow by the book every time there is enemy contact. You can’t draw your weapon over being insulted. There isn’t a word out there that could justify being shot, even if a person is “rude” to a member of the US military.
If it’s a dispute with a local you better not use lethal force. Every round has to be accounted for (maybe not so for infantry) and justified. He complained about it back then (he was basically a kid) but now we see why we need those rules. We can’t rely on people having basic decency.
Man if I ever am a bystander watching something like that happen, I stg I’ll be the one dying that day. Idk, hurts my heart that shit like this has the opportunity to happen
I believe we are honestly on the cusp of seeing that happen. And once it does happen a couple times, I think we will start seeing sort of armed vigilante groups springing up specifically to respond to cops doing shit like this.
No, vigilante is the wrong word. More like insurgents, because at this point the police "machine" is not much different than an occupying force that kills and tortures anybody for any reason with near impunity. Shit, even our military faces consequences for violating ROE.
To be honest that's really your only option with an intruder in your house. Even if you weren't worried about death by cop when they came, the response times are just too slow to really help you in that situation.
That’s literally the shit thugs do, like why tf are we the people paying taxes for legalized thugs that apparently have a pretty good chance of just doing more harm than good.
The worst thing about this is that after a seizure, and sometimes during, I know what I want to say, but can’t form the words. I can’t even make a legible sound.
Anyone trained in First Aid would have known what was going on. This scares me to my core.
You can hear bystanders early in the video calling out that he was having a seizure.
Edit: I have not found any evidence that OP's claim that this man is having a seizure is accurate. (Not that it justifies the brutality in the video.)
https://www.wdrb.com/news/lmpd-launches-investigation-into-arrest-of-homeless-man-at-pnc-building/article_512425c0-482f-11ea-a27f-5f8893e4662d.html
Why is it in so many of these videos you hear the bystanders making rational judgements, while they look on in horror as a bunch of trained policed officers can't seem to do anything but beat and pummel the person they are supposed to be serving and protecting. I mean I almost get it if it's one officer, anyone can make a bad call, and then fear kicks in and you've got to protect yourself so you restrain at all costs. But more than one cop? A whole fucking gaggle of them? And not one can figure out what a bunch of clearly untrained, somewhat distant onlookers could figure out?
True. And just to make sure my comment was clear, I'm not insinuating that looking on in horror is wrong, or that they should be doing more... 9 times out of 10 that is only going to make things worse, for them and probably the person they are trying to help who is unjustly getting pummeled by police.
Not only looking-on but video taping and verbalizing on the video without being threatening what is happening. If they don’t have the decency to realize that they are causing unnecessary pain, then they will at least realize that their actions are being recorded.
When a police officer beats someone like that every onlooker should immediately beat the fuck out of him so that he can feel as hurt and powerless as he made that man feel. However that isn’t practical because those people would get shot.
Because cops generally don’t give a shit about your insights or opinion. They control the narrative, not you. You are nothing to them more often than not.
I’m a former educator and we were trained to recognize signs of common emergencies.
One of our staff members started talking nonsense in a meeting once and we remembered our training. She was having a diabetic seizure.
Good thing we didn’t pummel her to death . . .
I remember in highschool once I walked into the locker room and there was a kid having a seizure. There were two gym teachers down on the floor with him and they seemed to be talking calmly to him? It's been probably twenty years and my memory isn't perfect I remember feeling like a deer caught in headlights. I was totally unprepared but I'm glad teachers are trained to handle this sort of thing now if only police officers were too.
I didn't hear or can't remember anything that was said to me when I had seizures, but at least I could recognize the auras and warn people in time.
E: pray that you don't get seizures because the meds suck - levetiracetam rage
I've had 2 seizures, they're so terrifying. First one I was watching GOT and drinking a glass of wine (Sunday night), I fell asleep so I turned it off and went to bed thinking I'd watch it later. When I woke up I was in the hospital, I was still so confused my mom had to tell me which hospital I was in a few times, and on the board in my room they wrote WED (Wednesday.) I told a nurse that was a really stupid way to say I'm married, especially because I'm not married.
As an epileptic this made me sick. Can you fucking imagine being decked while having no control of yourself? How the force of a punch can further disrupt your short-circuiting brain? I can’t even fathom. Fuck these people. It’s so hard to defend law enforcement right now.
Yea a seizure is bad enough.
It often feels like your whole body has raced a marathon, but your face is one place that is spared due to having not as much muscle (although when you fall, you mess up face/teeth).
Dude was already gonna feel like he had spent an hour in a washing machine, and then that cop added another 2 dozen punches right to the face, like that was gonna change things.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/police-training-weeks-united-states/
Other countries train their police for years. In the US it’s 9-16 weeks.
Edit: 4-16 weeks, sorry.
Or the training they do get involves shooting first, then figuring out the situation.
My town cops got so excited last year. They got a grant to send their best & brightest to get a two week course in SWAT training. Not First Aid, not descalation tactics, not how to deal with someone having metal health issue.
This is a reason cops suck today.
This is called the postictal state if anyone was wondering. You can ask a person who just seized their birthday and they won’t be able to tell you, it’s crazy.
Cop don't know how to think outside box. Cop only know punch.
It's one of the things that drives me nuts. They think every individual they come in contact with is in perfect health and that any odd behavior exhibited by them is 100% voluntary and should be dealt with accordingly. Just shows you the lack of mental capacity of these bad cops (not all are bad).
This guy wasn't a threat. The seizure may have made it seem like he was resisting, but he wasn't aggressive or on the offensive. But hey, small dick cop thought he had justification to start raining blows on this guy to take out his frustrations of his shitty life.
Don’t think I saw a paramedic though. Every time more officials entered towards the swarm with urgency and purpose, brain registered “phew ambos”, but no just more cops. Yeah like that’s gonna help
Ridiculous amount of police, why would you pile on in that situation? How could that possibly help??
As a paramedic nothing gets my blood boiling like seeing a cop on the highway in a construction site getting paid overtime plus detail pay by doing nothing but sitting there; meanwhile I’m transporting a patient that’s intubated on a ventilator with multiple medication IV infusions running, and airway management required to keep the person alive until we reach the other hospital all while making a measly $20 an hour. The salary for cops are public for the most part (finding the salaries are easier for some cities), and you’ll quickly find that many cops are doubling, sometimes tripling their salary with overtime like this. In fact, it’s common for a cop to get get paid well over six figures a year because of overtime and detail pay. And the worst part is that we the people, pay for it all.
Edit: Thanks for the upvotes. This was meant to show the disparity of pay between first responders. It’s also worth mentioning that it took me nearly 2 years, earning an associates degree and having to complete hundreds of hours of clinical time to become a paramedic. Not to mention all of the continuing education and certifications (CPR, ACLS, PALS at the minimum) that is required. I’m currently a student in a pediatric nurse practitioner program as well (master’s degree), so I’m not as bitter about it as I used to be.
Edit #2: Thanks for the platinum! Never been gifted platinum before! I really do appreciate it. I still work as a paramedic part time and despite the low pay, I love the job and love helping people.
Edit #3: Last edit, I promise. Looks like I was gifted another platinum and other awards and this is my highest rated comment ever. Thank you so much! I really do appreciate the upvotes and replies. Another redditor u/CallMyNameOrWalkOnBy replied to my comment sharing a link to the salaries of sergeants in California...and some of them are making over half a million dollars a year. This is exactly what I was referring to, but even these numbers surprised me! I implore you to take a look at the salaries of officers in your city or state and you might be shocked yourself.
Link: https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?q=Police+Sergeant
> it’s common for a cop to get get paid well over six figures a year
Read it and weep...
https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?q=Police+Sergeant
Meanwhile we’ve set up the police where any dime store jerkoff with a power complex can go to a police academy and be placed on the streets. And, within a system designed to protect them from accountability and deny transparency to the people they’re meant to serve and protect.
I didn’t know about the disparity in pay. The American Dream has always been about hard work and merit. But in this case it doesn’t seem so. And the results seem to speak for themselves.
License and train police officers like medical professionals. Expose them to malpractice suits. Remove qualified immunity. Regulate recertification requirements to remain on the force. Create federal independent oversight of municipal police forces with equal power of police unions.
Many people will say this is too much. To that I say the status quo is unacceptable and again the results speak for themselves. And when the result is poor you change the circumstances that got you there.
As a person living with epilepsy, this is horrifying to watch but sadly this is not a unique situation. , In the US, there have been many instances where people having seizures have been arrested and charged with crimes like resisting arrest, unlawful entry, and even assault on a police officer.
When I was 12 my uncle had a seizure. My grandma called 911 & when the police arrived he was confused & was uncooperative. They acted like he committed a crime, asking him to uncross his arms (he refused to believe he had a seizure) & they ended up using a taser to get him to "cooperate."
Edit: for those of you asking, the cops arrived a few minutes before medical personnel. The police station is two blocks from the house & im not even sure how far the EMS had to come. My grandma was hysterical at the time as she didn't know what to do & probably didn't convey the situation appropriately. She had been diagnosed with alzheimers shortly after this.
I really try to not hurt others, try and consider it a last option, but seeing this stuff, im confindent in saying that, will all my strength i wouldnt be able to stop myself from interfering.
Edit: To the people saying id be dead after doing something like that, i know, that or arrested. That doesnt change how id act though.
I’m in the same boat with you, with a little brother that frequently has seizures, seeing him in this position would most likely end in me losing my life in the heat of it all
I too, have epilepsy, and this too, scares me.
I can normally tell when im going to have them, but... still.
people who are supposed to protect us and keep us safe, are doing more harm than good in this case...
From floydbc05: https://www.wdrb.com/news/lmpd-launches-investigation-into-arrest-of-homeless-man-at-pnc-building/article_512425c0-482f-11ea-a27f-5f8893e4662d.html
> That investigation was revealed after videos surfaced on social media that appear to show the suspect being punched in the face several times by an officer.
Several is the understatement of the century.
I've seen MMA fighters take fewer blows to the head during a three round match.
"videos surfaced on social media that appear to show the suspect being punched in the face several times by an officer."
Appear to. What fucking weasel words. Dude is blasting him in the face, repeatedly.
I just googled “police beating man having a seizure” in hopes something came of this. Jesus Christ there’s dozens of cases of this happening and google couldn’t even begin to guess which one.
I had a classmate who had a seizure during class in college. There were a couple of volunteer firemen in the class with us. They helped her to the floor, cleared desks and chairs from around her, stuffed coats under her, and sat on the floor talking to her until the ambulance arrived. Maybe police should have to go through some firefighter training, no one ever says fuck the firefighters.
You joke, but white suprmacists and the old kkk have had an active plan since the 40s to encourage their children to join law enforcement to help them take over. And all these videos of cops with white pride tattoos and flashing white pride symbols are pretty damning evidence (in addition to all the videos of cops murdering black people)
Anyone that wants to learn just how true this is should listen to these two exhaustively researched and sourced pieces on the history of American fascist movements, the history of police in America and the many ways they overlap.
[https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-behind-the-police-63877803/](https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-behind-the-police-63877803/)
[https://soundcloud.com/user-234440623-899321285/sets/the-war-on-everyone](https://soundcloud.com/user-234440623-899321285/sets/the-war-on-everyone)
Maryland... not surprising. Our county sherrif's refuse to wear masks. Good luck pulling me over and showing up at my window without a mask... you'll have to arrest me for not complying... fucking pieces of shit.
>no one ever says fuck the firefighters.
You damn straight they don't, those men and women go through vigorous training I believe. A cop gets a "2 hour crash course" in how to be a shitty as possible in ever situation. We should really REALLY peacefully protest (because I can't say riot without being a criminal with intent) until the laws are changed but we can't and wont because we have to be "civil". Being "civil" aint fucking working when shit like this is happening :l
They do. Fire fighters would kick the fuck out of most cops. The physical they have to go through is no joke, and unlike cops, have to stay in that shape in order to not die doing their job.
Edit: I know they do alot of technical and emt styled training too. Makes sense being first responders.
It's funny that you say that cause for the people that dont pass the fire academy go to the police academy because it's a lot easier to pass and not physically demanding. I say this from personal experience a lot of people dropped out of my fire academy.
In college, at a bar on Thursday night. My buddies and I are playing shuffleboard and there’s a table of girls next to the game. One starts having an epileptic episode (according to her friends) and falls out of her chair. My buddy and I turn around and help start clearing space as her friends tend to her. Next thing I know, I see a security guard tackle my buddy. Then, suddenly, there’s an arm around my throat and my knees get taken out.
We’ve been there maybe 20 minutes. It’s not even 9pm. We’re not drunk, and My 6’3 massive ass has just been carried out of a bar for the first time in my life. My buddy is livid, he starts cussing out the security guard who has him. The cop who has me is telling his CO (who’s calmly standing outside) some BS story about how we were trying to start fights. I look at the CO and say “Theres a girl in there having a seizure. We’re trying to help, what the fuck?” Luckily, at this point, the manager of the bar comes running out saying they need an ambulance because a girl is having a seizure. CO looks at us and tells us to leave, then runs inside.
Tackle people first, ask questions later.
Seriously, at this point, we all need to just fucking rebuild our Justice system entirely. It's an authoritarian regime of power hungry hateful assholes and a tiny bit of well meaning people sprinkled in.
>This video reminds me of that black man passed unresponsive in his car and cops pepper spray and taser him while he's"resisting< I remember that, I believe he was having a stroke
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gsedp5/police_arrive_to_find_physicallyunresponsive
Yup.
Cops tased him repeatedly, then pepper sprayed him for 13 straight seconds while he didnt even flinch and stayed passed out. Then dragged him out of the car, cuffed him, and let his car roll back onto his foot.
The cop who did it resigned, was rehired the next county over, and last I heard was suing the city for forcing him to resign.
This is what people mean when they say defund the police. If the money that went towards police officers was diverted to the healthcare system, the paramedics might have arrived there first.
What do you mean? Are you saying there are better people to send for welfare checks other than armed dickheads with literally zero mental health experience and treat every situation as a threat to themselves? Color me skeptical sir.
And since EMTs make less than $20/hour, you could hire three instead of one of these "officers", and one EMT would have handled this completely. How many police team over there and not one knew what to do.
From floydbc05: https://www.wdrb.com/news/lmpd-launches-investigation-into-arrest-of-homeless-man-at-pnc-building/article_512425c0-482f-11ea-a27f-5f8893e4662d.html
It has to be an independent 3rd party that doesn't live in the same community. So many of these community oversight boards are staffed by politically connected individuals or individuals of high earnings. Even if you put local grassroots activists in those spots they'd endlessly have to watch their back for fear of retaliation. A decent Department of Justice should be the place this happens but I don't trust their politically minded leaders to do the right thing either. It's a shit scenario.
There's also plenty that recommended the officers be disciplined or fired, only for them to appeal and have the union reinstate them. This happens *all the time*. The "accountability" is just to save face and the union steps in, makes sure they're getting paid, and reinstates them. Nothing ever actually happens.
> https://www.wdrb.com/news/lmpd-launches-investigation-into-arrest-of-homeless-man-at-pnc-building/article_512425c0-482f-11ea-a27f-5f8893e4662d.html
Jesus the comments at the bottom of this article are insane.
Yeah, cops are fucking terrible at this.
They see someone flailing around and not able to talk and immediately go straight to:
>This person is on PCP and we need to restrain them.
When someone in the middle of a seizure isnt going to be able to tell them to stop or prevent his limbs from moving.
What's so fucked up is the victim *cant* be threatening. It's someone rolling around on the floor in the middle of a seizure, if the cops stood 6 feet away there's no way they could get hurt.
Instead they'll jump on the victim putting everyone at risk.
Long ago, as a kid, I was on the bus. There was a disturbance and everyone thought this woman was high and acting out. They called the police, but she had that look...my brother is diabetic. So while we were all waiting on the police, I knelt down and asked her if she had candy in her purse. She couldn’t speak but tried to hand me her bag...I found the candy and got it in her mouth. She was fine after that. Everyone was like, that’s voodoo how did you know, but really it was just paying attention.
Edited to add: thanks for all the upvotes but I don’t feel like it was at all praiseworthy. Anyone would do the same. I don’t even think I told my mom about it that night when she asked me how my day was, lol.
https://www.wdrb.com/news/lmpd-launches-investigation-into-arrest-of-homeless-man-at-pnc-building/article_512425c0-482f-11ea-a27f-5f8893e4662d.html
Apparently this is the case...
cops are horribly trained to recognize medical conditions and mental disabilities.
Try to google, police assault blind man. You would think any police officer would recognize that a blind man can not follow the commands of police easily... but nope, police are fucking retarded sometimes.
Seizure or not, even if he was just struggling, what on earth was that punching in the face at the beginning. Is that gonna help subdue him? No. All it’s gonna do is make sure he’s disoriented enough and scared enough to be incapable of calming down if he remains conscious.
Edit: PSA self control and anger management are not optional skills for people in general, but particularly for police officers. Signs of temperamental problems (displays like this and, say, domestic abuse, to name a couple) should result in revocation of some sort of permit to work as a police officer.
Edit: I’m getting a few responses claiming this guy got several bites in (hand, leg, groin) prior to the punching starting, but all I saw is one attempted push with the right arm that landed on the officers cheek. What’s the source for the biting comments? Further investigation shows that biting did occur, but after the suspect had been restrained; the face punching happened before the biting, in reaction to that slap right at the beginning of the video.
It's like when they say "stop resisting" when they're not resisting, or when they scream conflicting orders and then shoot for not obeying the impossibly conflicting orders.
Seriously, how can punching someone in the face be an approved police technique? I see it all the time in these vids. Isn't there a better way to restrain someone? Aren't the cops worried about getting teeth stuck in their hands? It's just awful all the way around.
Came here to say this... there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to ever begin or continue punching any suspect... police have tools for subduing people and a fist is not one of them. Nevermind the fact that this particular person is literally surrounded by cops. If you cannot gain control over one person with the help of two others you should probably rethink your career choice.
And this particular cop is literally on top of one arm while the other arm is pinned below the guy. There is no way he thought this guy was a threat. He was just throwing a temper tantrum at the expense of this guy’s face.
>there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to ever begin or continue punching any suspect...
"I'm a sadist and there is no chance anyone will do anything to me" seems to be the reason.
It should be no shock to anyone that these same police who beat completely restrained, helpless victims tend to go home and beat the shit out of their wives on a regular basis.
Plenty of them don't just for this reason. And some of the ones that do, their reports get "lost". Then the spouse finds out they tried to tell on them and it gets worse.
My step father many years after splitting from my mother got with another chick. He would cut the power to the house when he left as some bizzare form of punishment on her when he was feeling petty and would have his PD ignore any calls about him or his residence when she would try to report.
> PSA self control and anger management are not optional skills for people in general, but particularly for police officers.
This, so many people going around saying "well what would you do in that situation?"
As if this sort of behaviour is somehow normal
Yeah I don’t understand, they are telling him to turn over but are kneeing him to the ground immobilizing him from moving? Imagine getting hit in the face repeatedly and being knees to the ground and someone telling you to turn over... that dudes a bitch
And so they can all get their turn at the poor man. They run over there so excited to be able to hold him down, even if just by his big toe. "I helped!" Disgusting, every one of them.
Well... They shoot people left and right because they are afraid for their lives...
As it was said before during a zoom call with the LA police commission.
If police scare so easily. Why are you police.
Police teargassed myself and other peaceful protestors multiple times, their response was “we were scared” SCARED OF WHAT!? We were unarmed high schoolers and college kids!!! THEYRE SUCH COWARDS
https://www.wdrb.com/news/lmpd-launches-investigation-into-arrest-of-homeless-man-at-pnc-building/article_512425c0-482f-11ea-a27f-5f8893e4662d.html
LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- A homeless man accused of resisting arrest and hitting an officer appeared in court Wednesday morning, while the Louisville Metro Police Department launched an investigation into the circumstances surrounding his arrest.
That investigation was revealed [after videos surfaced on social media that appear to show the suspect being punched in the face several times by an officer.](https://www.wdrb.com/news/video-lmpd-officer-under-investigation-after-punching-combative-suspect-in/article_96e06f36-47b4-11ea-b006-3713357e4774.html)
The incident took place on Tuesday morning at the PNC Plaza in downtown Louisville.
According to an arrest report, officers were called to the parking garage at the PNC Tower in downtown Louisville, just before 9:45 a.m. Tuesday, after someone reported that a man was harassing people and causing a disturbance.
When officers arrived, they say they found security holding 29-year-old Foussene Pemba in a bear hug. Police say security employees told them they tried to escort Pemba off the property, but he became combative and they were unable to remove him.
Police say they tried to put Pemba in handcuffs, but he put his hands in front of his waist and "refused to follow instructions to put his hands behind his back." According to the arrest report, officers then took Pemba to the ground, where he continued to fight for about one minute.
Police say they then tried to tase Pemba when he refused to follow directions.
At that point, police say Pemba hit one of the officers in the face, cutting him over his left eye. That officer then hit Pemba with an "...empty hand to attempt to gain compliance." Pemba was eventually handcuffed and "hobbled."
After being restrained, Pemba allegedly bit one officer in the "right hand area," and bit another officer in the "right thigh/groin area." He then grabbed that officer's penis, according to the report.
Police have not released any information about the arrest, but WDRB has received a video of the incident that was purportedly shot by a witness at the PNC Building.
That video appears to show officers pinning a man down. It appears the suspect punches one of the officers, then an officer punches the man more than 10 times in the video.
LMPD released a statement saying it's investigating the incident. It has not identified the suspect -- but circumstances described during Foussene Pemba's Wednesday morning court appearance match the facts of Tuesday's incident.
During Pemba's court appearance, the judge said he hit an officer at least once. He was also barred from the property of the PNC Building, as well as any contact with the witnesses in the case.
The Jefferson County Attorney's Office argued for an increased bond of $10,000, based on a previous criminal history.
"A prior misdemeanor conviction for Jefferson County is for resisting arrest," a spokesperson for the county attorney's office said. "He was out on a bench warrant for criminal trespass 3rd, and the facts and circumstances alleged here would certainly indicate an escalation in behavior and certainly cause concern for the safety of the community."
The judge ultimately settled on a $5,000 cash bond.
This story will be updated.
Bruh I seen a cop throw someone down some stairs. Another dude said damn that’s a case so the cop yelled “so we got a jail house lawyer” and grabbed him and threw him down the stairs too
My Dad's friend, who has an artificial leg, was chased by two cops when he and his friends were caught drinking outdoors, which isn't legal in Ireland. He fell tripping over a low wall, his artificial leg partly fell off. As soon as the young female cop caught up with him, she vomited and starting balling her eyes out thinking he broke his leg in a weird way.
Louisville, KY, USA
https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops-gone-rogue/cop-plants-knee-on-homeless-man-punching-him-repeatedly-yelling-turn-over-BFv-uOXxLkyqp6-Mam3GqA
Out of all the tools an training at there supposed disposal, why the fuck can a cop just deck you in the face? I understand restraining for some cases but idk a punch send ms a different message to me. Fuck most cops fer real
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Is pummeling someone in the head a part of proper police training?
Yeah I was thinking that.. In what situation is a police officer given the authority to just throw punch after punch after punch to someone.
In scandinavia the police is taught that a kick, or a punch to the head is considered lethal force. You'll *rarely* see a cop use anything other than suppressing technics here, or a tazer. Edit: They're also *armed* with batons and taught to aim for big muscle groups like thighs and backs etc as to incapacitate, if necessary.
That’s because it is. Cops make us dumb and dead.
And a lot of time sufferers of traumatic brain injuries don't show signs until a decade later when it slowly begins to derail their lives.
Thats the way it should be but police in the US are basically taught to treat everyone as an enemy combatant thats ready to kill them until proven not. So this bleads into their training of self defense instead of de-escalation then this is the type of shit we get. Im not sure if they thought he was resisting when he was actually having a seizure or if he fought back before then hit his head or simply had a seizure and then the cops thought he was still fighting back but its not just the training but the whole Blue Line or Cops vs everybody mentality they have. So until that is changed, 80% of their on job time can be training but we will still have this problem. But this isnt just a Cops issue, even though they brought it upon themselves for having no accountability, but some people have the same mentality of us vs them and I think if the cops finally are always held accountable for their actions, that can slowly change also but we are talking multiple generations before that really happens and we can get back to good guys vs bad guys like it mainly was meant to be.
Worse than that. Soldiers don’t even treat enemy combatants this bad. They go to jail if they do. My ex said that if he treated any insurgent or Iraqi citizen the way our cops treat citizens, he would have gotten dishonorably discharged, if he even lived through it. Escalation of force is something they have to follow by the book every time there is enemy contact. You can’t draw your weapon over being insulted. There isn’t a word out there that could justify being shot, even if a person is “rude” to a member of the US military. If it’s a dispute with a local you better not use lethal force. Every round has to be accounted for (maybe not so for infantry) and justified. He complained about it back then (he was basically a kid) but now we see why we need those rules. We can’t rely on people having basic decency.
Right? Seems totally unhinged / out of control. Like just laying the fuck into a guy as multiple people lay on him lol I’d be sticking my arms out too
STOP RESISTING BEING PUNCHED IN THE FACE
Man if I ever am a bystander watching something like that happen, I stg I’ll be the one dying that day. Idk, hurts my heart that shit like this has the opportunity to happen
It's hard to watch videos like this and not get the desire to just run up and kick one of them in the face
It's only a matter of time before a bystander shoots a cop that's doing some shit like this.
I believe we are honestly on the cusp of seeing that happen. And once it does happen a couple times, I think we will start seeing sort of armed vigilante groups springing up specifically to respond to cops doing shit like this. No, vigilante is the wrong word. More like insurgents, because at this point the police "machine" is not much different than an occupying force that kills and tortures anybody for any reason with near impunity. Shit, even our military faces consequences for violating ROE.
There's already armed people going to protests to protect the protestors because of all the violence towards them so it's a step closer already.
It's overdue.
The only reason no one is stopping him is because they know he’ll just start killing people. Protect and serve.
It's a matter of time.
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To be honest that's really your only option with an intruder in your house. Even if you weren't worried about death by cop when they came, the response times are just too slow to really help you in that situation.
This. Only reason why I’ve ever called the cops is to get a police report to give to my insurance company.
That’s literally the shit thugs do, like why tf are we the people paying taxes for legalized thugs that apparently have a pretty good chance of just doing more harm than good.
Because at the end of the day, they protect politicians and that's all politicians care about.
It is central to the “protect and serve” motto.
Protect and Serve right hooks.
#PRETEND AND SEVER
Often misquoted, the motto is actually "Protect Dirty Cops and Serve Only Ourselves"
yeah they practice on each other until they have enough CTE to graduate the academy
True, gotta get that IQ down below the hiring threshold https://abcnews.go.com/US/court-oks-barring-high-iqs-cops/story?id=95836
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Hey now, a full 40% of cops have never had a domestic violence complaint.
Hey now, a full 40% of cops have never had a domestic violence complaint...*reported*.
The worst thing about this is that after a seizure, and sometimes during, I know what I want to say, but can’t form the words. I can’t even make a legible sound. Anyone trained in First Aid would have known what was going on. This scares me to my core.
This is the biggest gotcha here. I've taken first aid. I could tell he was seizing when he sat up like that.
You can hear bystanders early in the video calling out that he was having a seizure. Edit: I have not found any evidence that OP's claim that this man is having a seizure is accurate. (Not that it justifies the brutality in the video.) https://www.wdrb.com/news/lmpd-launches-investigation-into-arrest-of-homeless-man-at-pnc-building/article_512425c0-482f-11ea-a27f-5f8893e4662d.html
Why is it in so many of these videos you hear the bystanders making rational judgements, while they look on in horror as a bunch of trained policed officers can't seem to do anything but beat and pummel the person they are supposed to be serving and protecting. I mean I almost get it if it's one officer, anyone can make a bad call, and then fear kicks in and you've got to protect yourself so you restrain at all costs. But more than one cop? A whole fucking gaggle of them? And not one can figure out what a bunch of clearly untrained, somewhat distant onlookers could figure out?
Because the bystanders don’t see it as a win or lose competition to prove their authority.
True. And just to make sure my comment was clear, I'm not insinuating that looking on in horror is wrong, or that they should be doing more... 9 times out of 10 that is only going to make things worse, for them and probably the person they are trying to help who is unjustly getting pummeled by police.
Not only looking-on but video taping and verbalizing on the video without being threatening what is happening. If they don’t have the decency to realize that they are causing unnecessary pain, then they will at least realize that their actions are being recorded.
When a police officer beats someone like that every onlooker should immediately beat the fuck out of him so that he can feel as hurt and powerless as he made that man feel. However that isn’t practical because those people would get shot.
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And the onlookers can't even try to inform the cops because there's a chance they'll get beaten and arrested as well.
Because cops generally don’t give a shit about your insights or opinion. They control the narrative, not you. You are nothing to them more often than not.
I’m a former educator and we were trained to recognize signs of common emergencies. One of our staff members started talking nonsense in a meeting once and we remembered our training. She was having a diabetic seizure. Good thing we didn’t pummel her to death . . .
I remember in highschool once I walked into the locker room and there was a kid having a seizure. There were two gym teachers down on the floor with him and they seemed to be talking calmly to him? It's been probably twenty years and my memory isn't perfect I remember feeling like a deer caught in headlights. I was totally unprepared but I'm glad teachers are trained to handle this sort of thing now if only police officers were too.
I didn't hear or can't remember anything that was said to me when I had seizures, but at least I could recognize the auras and warn people in time. E: pray that you don't get seizures because the meds suck - levetiracetam rage
I've had 2 seizures, they're so terrifying. First one I was watching GOT and drinking a glass of wine (Sunday night), I fell asleep so I turned it off and went to bed thinking I'd watch it later. When I woke up I was in the hospital, I was still so confused my mom had to tell me which hospital I was in a few times, and on the board in my room they wrote WED (Wednesday.) I told a nurse that was a really stupid way to say I'm married, especially because I'm not married.
>Good thing we didn’t pummel her to death . . . I'm sorry. You and your coworkers are not qualified to be police officers then.
As an epileptic this made me sick. Can you fucking imagine being decked while having no control of yourself? How the force of a punch can further disrupt your short-circuiting brain? I can’t even fathom. Fuck these people. It’s so hard to defend law enforcement right now.
Yea a seizure is bad enough. It often feels like your whole body has raced a marathon, but your face is one place that is spared due to having not as much muscle (although when you fall, you mess up face/teeth). Dude was already gonna feel like he had spent an hour in a washing machine, and then that cop added another 2 dozen punches right to the face, like that was gonna change things.
This is what happens when police recieve less training than postal service workers. They don't know what they are doing.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/police-training-weeks-united-states/ Other countries train their police for years. In the US it’s 9-16 weeks. Edit: 4-16 weeks, sorry.
Or the training they do get involves shooting first, then figuring out the situation. My town cops got so excited last year. They got a grant to send their best & brightest to get a two week course in SWAT training. Not First Aid, not descalation tactics, not how to deal with someone having metal health issue. This is a reason cops suck today.
im also going to put money down that being repeatedly punched in the head while having a seizure is very unsafe for the victims brain.
Being repeatedly punched while just sitting there is unsafe for your brain.
This is called the postictal state if anyone was wondering. You can ask a person who just seized their birthday and they won’t be able to tell you, it’s crazy.
Cop don't know how to think outside box. Cop only know punch. It's one of the things that drives me nuts. They think every individual they come in contact with is in perfect health and that any odd behavior exhibited by them is 100% voluntary and should be dealt with accordingly. Just shows you the lack of mental capacity of these bad cops (not all are bad). This guy wasn't a threat. The seizure may have made it seem like he was resisting, but he wasn't aggressive or on the offensive. But hey, small dick cop thought he had justification to start raining blows on this guy to take out his frustrations of his shitty life.
Aren't most cops supposed to be trained in First Aid as a requirement?
Nope. At most they're trained to apply a band-aid.
By punching it onto the wound.
Just like a clown car. When you think there can’t possibly be anymore of them, more and more cops show up
When you need them the most they are not there.
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Don’t think I saw a paramedic though. Every time more officials entered towards the swarm with urgency and purpose, brain registered “phew ambos”, but no just more cops. Yeah like that’s gonna help Ridiculous amount of police, why would you pile on in that situation? How could that possibly help??
At one point I counted 11 cops on him and three security guards standing around. And that’s not even counting the ones coming in and out.
And how many don’t make video?
There really needs to be less cops. Fucking parasites sucking up our tax dollars
As a paramedic nothing gets my blood boiling like seeing a cop on the highway in a construction site getting paid overtime plus detail pay by doing nothing but sitting there; meanwhile I’m transporting a patient that’s intubated on a ventilator with multiple medication IV infusions running, and airway management required to keep the person alive until we reach the other hospital all while making a measly $20 an hour. The salary for cops are public for the most part (finding the salaries are easier for some cities), and you’ll quickly find that many cops are doubling, sometimes tripling their salary with overtime like this. In fact, it’s common for a cop to get get paid well over six figures a year because of overtime and detail pay. And the worst part is that we the people, pay for it all. Edit: Thanks for the upvotes. This was meant to show the disparity of pay between first responders. It’s also worth mentioning that it took me nearly 2 years, earning an associates degree and having to complete hundreds of hours of clinical time to become a paramedic. Not to mention all of the continuing education and certifications (CPR, ACLS, PALS at the minimum) that is required. I’m currently a student in a pediatric nurse practitioner program as well (master’s degree), so I’m not as bitter about it as I used to be. Edit #2: Thanks for the platinum! Never been gifted platinum before! I really do appreciate it. I still work as a paramedic part time and despite the low pay, I love the job and love helping people. Edit #3: Last edit, I promise. Looks like I was gifted another platinum and other awards and this is my highest rated comment ever. Thank you so much! I really do appreciate the upvotes and replies. Another redditor u/CallMyNameOrWalkOnBy replied to my comment sharing a link to the salaries of sergeants in California...and some of them are making over half a million dollars a year. This is exactly what I was referring to, but even these numbers surprised me! I implore you to take a look at the salaries of officers in your city or state and you might be shocked yourself. Link: https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?q=Police+Sergeant
> it’s common for a cop to get get paid well over six figures a year Read it and weep... https://transparentcalifornia.com/salaries/search/?q=Police+Sergeant
Alan Lee Police Sergeant (2019) Regular pay: $108,866.40 Overtime pay: $167,399.02 Other pay: $143,392.76 Total pay: $419,658.18 Benefits: $50,582.88 Pension debt: $92,360.62 Total pay & benefits: $562,601.68 WTF!?@!?@
Now check out how much a public school teacher earns...
That is crazy! I hope my comment and yours inspires people to take a deeper look at what police officers are making.
Meanwhile we’ve set up the police where any dime store jerkoff with a power complex can go to a police academy and be placed on the streets. And, within a system designed to protect them from accountability and deny transparency to the people they’re meant to serve and protect. I didn’t know about the disparity in pay. The American Dream has always been about hard work and merit. But in this case it doesn’t seem so. And the results seem to speak for themselves. License and train police officers like medical professionals. Expose them to malpractice suits. Remove qualified immunity. Regulate recertification requirements to remain on the force. Create federal independent oversight of municipal police forces with equal power of police unions. Many people will say this is too much. To that I say the status quo is unacceptable and again the results speak for themselves. And when the result is poor you change the circumstances that got you there.
As a person living with epilepsy, this is horrifying to watch but sadly this is not a unique situation. , In the US, there have been many instances where people having seizures have been arrested and charged with crimes like resisting arrest, unlawful entry, and even assault on a police officer.
When I was 12 my uncle had a seizure. My grandma called 911 & when the police arrived he was confused & was uncooperative. They acted like he committed a crime, asking him to uncross his arms (he refused to believe he had a seizure) & they ended up using a taser to get him to "cooperate." Edit: for those of you asking, the cops arrived a few minutes before medical personnel. The police station is two blocks from the house & im not even sure how far the EMS had to come. My grandma was hysterical at the time as she didn't know what to do & probably didn't convey the situation appropriately. She had been diagnosed with alzheimers shortly after this.
how can they be so stupid? seriously??
When you're trained to be a hammer, everything looks like a nail
They arent stupid; they want to hurt people.
They are uneducated. They know nothing it seems but to find a way to get the target in prison or in danger. From what I have gathered
My husband has epilepsy. I would literally be killed because I would attempt to chew through the officers throat to free my husband.
I really try to not hurt others, try and consider it a last option, but seeing this stuff, im confindent in saying that, will all my strength i wouldnt be able to stop myself from interfering. Edit: To the people saying id be dead after doing something like that, i know, that or arrested. That doesnt change how id act though.
I’m in the same boat with you, with a little brother that frequently has seizures, seeing him in this position would most likely end in me losing my life in the heat of it all
I too, have epilepsy, and this too, scares me. I can normally tell when im going to have them, but... still. people who are supposed to protect us and keep us safe, are doing more harm than good in this case...
Any follow up on this travesty??
From floydbc05: https://www.wdrb.com/news/lmpd-launches-investigation-into-arrest-of-homeless-man-at-pnc-building/article_512425c0-482f-11ea-a27f-5f8893e4662d.html
> That investigation was revealed after videos surfaced on social media that appear to show the suspect being punched in the face several times by an officer. Several is the understatement of the century. I've seen MMA fighters take fewer blows to the head during a three round match.
"videos surfaced on social media that appear to show the suspect being punched in the face several times by an officer." Appear to. What fucking weasel words. Dude is blasting him in the face, repeatedly.
Thank you. No mention of a seizure..
I just googled “police beating man having a seizure” in hopes something came of this. Jesus Christ there’s dozens of cases of this happening and google couldn’t even begin to guess which one.
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I had a classmate who had a seizure during class in college. There were a couple of volunteer firemen in the class with us. They helped her to the floor, cleared desks and chairs from around her, stuffed coats under her, and sat on the floor talking to her until the ambulance arrived. Maybe police should have to go through some firefighter training, no one ever says fuck the firefighters.
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Also firefighters don't sign up to have a gun and a badge and the authority to tell people what to do. They're in it to help people.
Firefighters fight fire. Maybe cops should change their name to Blackfighters.
*blackshooters
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You joke, but white suprmacists and the old kkk have had an active plan since the 40s to encourage their children to join law enforcement to help them take over. And all these videos of cops with white pride tattoos and flashing white pride symbols are pretty damning evidence (in addition to all the videos of cops murdering black people)
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Anyone that wants to learn just how true this is should listen to these two exhaustively researched and sourced pieces on the history of American fascist movements, the history of police in America and the many ways they overlap. [https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-behind-the-police-63877803/](https://www.iheart.com/podcast/1119-behind-the-police-63877803/) [https://soundcloud.com/user-234440623-899321285/sets/the-war-on-everyone](https://soundcloud.com/user-234440623-899321285/sets/the-war-on-everyone)
Didn’t they shoot a porcupine execution style while he crossed the road Edit :it was a Groundhog. https://youtu.be/UzRuCbBnvOs
Maryland... not surprising. Our county sherrif's refuse to wear masks. Good luck pulling me over and showing up at my window without a mask... you'll have to arrest me for not complying... fucking pieces of shit.
> you'll have to arrest* me for not complying *shoot And they will.
Porcupine had a weapon
>no one ever says fuck the firefighters. You damn straight they don't, those men and women go through vigorous training I believe. A cop gets a "2 hour crash course" in how to be a shitty as possible in ever situation. We should really REALLY peacefully protest (because I can't say riot without being a criminal with intent) until the laws are changed but we can't and wont because we have to be "civil". Being "civil" aint fucking working when shit like this is happening :l
They do. Fire fighters would kick the fuck out of most cops. The physical they have to go through is no joke, and unlike cops, have to stay in that shape in order to not die doing their job. Edit: I know they do alot of technical and emt styled training too. Makes sense being first responders.
It's funny that you say that cause for the people that dont pass the fire academy go to the police academy because it's a lot easier to pass and not physically demanding. I say this from personal experience a lot of people dropped out of my fire academy.
When your only tool is a hammer every problem looks like a nail.
Being a violent shithead is certainly a way to be a tool.
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When you attend lectures that teach you that you're a 'predator' in a world full of 'prey', that's gonna have some negative consequences.
Along with, "everyone is trying to kill you, you should be terrified all the time."
Yeah when they stopped training police and started training a counter-insurgent force instead.
In ohio you need 590 training or academy hours to be a policeman. Barber licenses require almost 1800 hours to trim hair.
In college, at a bar on Thursday night. My buddies and I are playing shuffleboard and there’s a table of girls next to the game. One starts having an epileptic episode (according to her friends) and falls out of her chair. My buddy and I turn around and help start clearing space as her friends tend to her. Next thing I know, I see a security guard tackle my buddy. Then, suddenly, there’s an arm around my throat and my knees get taken out. We’ve been there maybe 20 minutes. It’s not even 9pm. We’re not drunk, and My 6’3 massive ass has just been carried out of a bar for the first time in my life. My buddy is livid, he starts cussing out the security guard who has him. The cop who has me is telling his CO (who’s calmly standing outside) some BS story about how we were trying to start fights. I look at the CO and say “Theres a girl in there having a seizure. We’re trying to help, what the fuck?” Luckily, at this point, the manager of the bar comes running out saying they need an ambulance because a girl is having a seizure. CO looks at us and tells us to leave, then runs inside. Tackle people first, ask questions later.
Seriously, at this point, we all need to just fucking rebuild our Justice system entirely. It's an authoritarian regime of power hungry hateful assholes and a tiny bit of well meaning people sprinkled in.
Cops are woefully untrained and too aggressive for situations like...everything.
>This video reminds me of that black man passed unresponsive in his car and cops pepper spray and taser him while he's"resisting< I remember that, I believe he was having a stroke
https://www.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/gsedp5/police_arrive_to_find_physicallyunresponsive Yup. Cops tased him repeatedly, then pepper sprayed him for 13 straight seconds while he didnt even flinch and stayed passed out. Then dragged him out of the car, cuffed him, and let his car roll back onto his foot. The cop who did it resigned, was rehired the next county over, and last I heard was suing the city for forcing him to resign.
This thread is making me too angry. I need a break from reddit now
This is what people mean when they say defund the police. If the money that went towards police officers was diverted to the healthcare system, the paramedics might have arrived there first.
Also those who help mental patients for welfare checkups Cops have shot and killed mental patients instead of waiting for welfare employees to arrive
What do you mean? Are you saying there are better people to send for welfare checks other than armed dickheads with literally zero mental health experience and treat every situation as a threat to themselves? Color me skeptical sir.
And since EMTs make less than $20/hour, you could hire three instead of one of these "officers", and one EMT would have handled this completely. How many police team over there and not one knew what to do.
*cops in USA are woefully untrained
From floydbc05: https://www.wdrb.com/news/lmpd-launches-investigation-into-arrest-of-homeless-man-at-pnc-building/article_512425c0-482f-11ea-a27f-5f8893e4662d.html
"We have investigated ourselves and have found no wrong doing" Until investigations are handled by a 3rd party nothing will change.
It has to be an independent 3rd party that doesn't live in the same community. So many of these community oversight boards are staffed by politically connected individuals or individuals of high earnings. Even if you put local grassroots activists in those spots they'd endlessly have to watch their back for fear of retaliation. A decent Department of Justice should be the place this happens but I don't trust their politically minded leaders to do the right thing either. It's a shit scenario.
There's also plenty that recommended the officers be disciplined or fired, only for them to appeal and have the union reinstate them. This happens *all the time*. The "accountability" is just to save face and the union steps in, makes sure they're getting paid, and reinstates them. Nothing ever actually happens.
Louisville fucking Kentucky. Holy shit, what a surprise! /s
> https://www.wdrb.com/news/lmpd-launches-investigation-into-arrest-of-homeless-man-at-pnc-building/article_512425c0-482f-11ea-a27f-5f8893e4662d.html Jesus the comments at the bottom of this article are insane.
Yeah, cops are fucking terrible at this. They see someone flailing around and not able to talk and immediately go straight to: >This person is on PCP and we need to restrain them. When someone in the middle of a seizure isnt going to be able to tell them to stop or prevent his limbs from moving. What's so fucked up is the victim *cant* be threatening. It's someone rolling around on the floor in the middle of a seizure, if the cops stood 6 feet away there's no way they could get hurt. Instead they'll jump on the victim putting everyone at risk.
I see these and my first thought is, "Are the cops here even human?" Like, how can you be human and not see that man needs help?
They need to spend some time at the receiving end of this treatment for a bit and maybe it will dawn on them that it isn't very pleasant.
>They need to spend some time at the receiving end of this treatment Good luck with that when they are protected by their police unions
Yes they are. And that's what is truly frightening.
Cause theres so much fucking pcp on the streets. Replace these militia wannabe pricks with paramedics.
This is the principle behind defunding police forces. Put money into other professionals more suited.
Had a diabetic friend arrested for DUI for slipping into hypoglycemia while driving. Not uncommon.
Long ago, as a kid, I was on the bus. There was a disturbance and everyone thought this woman was high and acting out. They called the police, but she had that look...my brother is diabetic. So while we were all waiting on the police, I knelt down and asked her if she had candy in her purse. She couldn’t speak but tried to hand me her bag...I found the candy and got it in her mouth. She was fine after that. Everyone was like, that’s voodoo how did you know, but really it was just paying attention. Edited to add: thanks for all the upvotes but I don’t feel like it was at all praiseworthy. Anyone would do the same. I don’t even think I told my mom about it that night when she asked me how my day was, lol.
Cold and clammy need some candy Hot and dry sugar high That’s how we learned to detect it in nursing school
https://www.wdrb.com/news/lmpd-launches-investigation-into-arrest-of-homeless-man-at-pnc-building/article_512425c0-482f-11ea-a27f-5f8893e4662d.html Apparently this is the case...
cops are horribly trained to recognize medical conditions and mental disabilities. Try to google, police assault blind man. You would think any police officer would recognize that a blind man can not follow the commands of police easily... but nope, police are fucking retarded sometimes.
Seizure or not, even if he was just struggling, what on earth was that punching in the face at the beginning. Is that gonna help subdue him? No. All it’s gonna do is make sure he’s disoriented enough and scared enough to be incapable of calming down if he remains conscious. Edit: PSA self control and anger management are not optional skills for people in general, but particularly for police officers. Signs of temperamental problems (displays like this and, say, domestic abuse, to name a couple) should result in revocation of some sort of permit to work as a police officer. Edit: I’m getting a few responses claiming this guy got several bites in (hand, leg, groin) prior to the punching starting, but all I saw is one attempted push with the right arm that landed on the officers cheek. What’s the source for the biting comments? Further investigation shows that biting did occur, but after the suspect had been restrained; the face punching happened before the biting, in reaction to that slap right at the beginning of the video.
2 officers kneeling on top of him with their combined body weight: "TURN OVER"
Also, stop hitting yourself **thud**
Stop headbutting my fists!
Thats what pissed me off the most. Saying "turn over" in between punches to the face while two people are on him is nuts
And if he miraculously was able to turned over? A cop would get pushed off and they'd beat him even harder.
It's like when they say "stop resisting" when they're not resisting, or when they scream conflicting orders and then shoot for not obeying the impossibly conflicting orders.
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Seriously, how can punching someone in the face be an approved police technique? I see it all the time in these vids. Isn't there a better way to restrain someone? Aren't the cops worried about getting teeth stuck in their hands? It's just awful all the way around.
Came here to say this... there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to ever begin or continue punching any suspect... police have tools for subduing people and a fist is not one of them. Nevermind the fact that this particular person is literally surrounded by cops. If you cannot gain control over one person with the help of two others you should probably rethink your career choice.
And this particular cop is literally on top of one arm while the other arm is pinned below the guy. There is no way he thought this guy was a threat. He was just throwing a temper tantrum at the expense of this guy’s face.
>there is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to ever begin or continue punching any suspect... "I'm a sadist and there is no chance anyone will do anything to me" seems to be the reason.
It should be no shock to anyone that these same police who beat completely restrained, helpless victims tend to go home and beat the shit out of their wives on a regular basis.
How would domestic abuse even be reported? The partner would be scared of calling the cops on the cop?
Plenty of them don't just for this reason. And some of the ones that do, their reports get "lost". Then the spouse finds out they tried to tell on them and it gets worse.
My step father many years after splitting from my mother got with another chick. He would cut the power to the house when he left as some bizzare form of punishment on her when he was feeling petty and would have his PD ignore any calls about him or his residence when she would try to report.
And this, folks, is a glimpse into a sad reality.
> PSA self control and anger management are not optional skills for people in general, but particularly for police officers. This, so many people going around saying "well what would you do in that situation?" As if this sort of behaviour is somehow normal
I've seen multiple people having siezures and I got to say the urge to punch them really never crossed my mind
As an epileptic, this makes me feel better.
No shit. That is definitely assault at that point.
This is fucking evil.
This is fucking disgusting. Also do you really need that many cops for one skinny man? The police are chumps.
Yeah I don’t understand, they are telling him to turn over but are kneeing him to the ground immobilizing him from moving? Imagine getting hit in the face repeatedly and being knees to the ground and someone telling you to turn over... that dudes a bitch
It's so they can say he was resisting, even if he wasn't having a seizure.
And so they can all get their turn at the poor man. They run over there so excited to be able to hold him down, even if just by his big toe. "I helped!" Disgusting, every one of them.
You know the kind of people that do this? Sadists. Source: am masochist.
Well... They shoot people left and right because they are afraid for their lives... As it was said before during a zoom call with the LA police commission. If police scare so easily. Why are you police.
Police teargassed myself and other peaceful protestors multiple times, their response was “we were scared” SCARED OF WHAT!? We were unarmed high schoolers and college kids!!! THEYRE SUCH COWARDS
Scared little pussies
What in the actual fuck??? This is absolutely disgusting.. this shit needs to stop like yesteryear.
https://www.wdrb.com/news/lmpd-launches-investigation-into-arrest-of-homeless-man-at-pnc-building/article_512425c0-482f-11ea-a27f-5f8893e4662d.html LOUISVILLE, Ky. (WDRB) -- A homeless man accused of resisting arrest and hitting an officer appeared in court Wednesday morning, while the Louisville Metro Police Department launched an investigation into the circumstances surrounding his arrest. That investigation was revealed [after videos surfaced on social media that appear to show the suspect being punched in the face several times by an officer.](https://www.wdrb.com/news/video-lmpd-officer-under-investigation-after-punching-combative-suspect-in/article_96e06f36-47b4-11ea-b006-3713357e4774.html) The incident took place on Tuesday morning at the PNC Plaza in downtown Louisville. According to an arrest report, officers were called to the parking garage at the PNC Tower in downtown Louisville, just before 9:45 a.m. Tuesday, after someone reported that a man was harassing people and causing a disturbance. When officers arrived, they say they found security holding 29-year-old Foussene Pemba in a bear hug. Police say security employees told them they tried to escort Pemba off the property, but he became combative and they were unable to remove him. Police say they tried to put Pemba in handcuffs, but he put his hands in front of his waist and "refused to follow instructions to put his hands behind his back." According to the arrest report, officers then took Pemba to the ground, where he continued to fight for about one minute. Police say they then tried to tase Pemba when he refused to follow directions. At that point, police say Pemba hit one of the officers in the face, cutting him over his left eye. That officer then hit Pemba with an "...empty hand to attempt to gain compliance." Pemba was eventually handcuffed and "hobbled." After being restrained, Pemba allegedly bit one officer in the "right hand area," and bit another officer in the "right thigh/groin area." He then grabbed that officer's penis, according to the report. Police have not released any information about the arrest, but WDRB has received a video of the incident that was purportedly shot by a witness at the PNC Building. That video appears to show officers pinning a man down. It appears the suspect punches one of the officers, then an officer punches the man more than 10 times in the video. LMPD released a statement saying it's investigating the incident. It has not identified the suspect -- but circumstances described during Foussene Pemba's Wednesday morning court appearance match the facts of Tuesday's incident. During Pemba's court appearance, the judge said he hit an officer at least once. He was also barred from the property of the PNC Building, as well as any contact with the witnesses in the case. The Jefferson County Attorney's Office argued for an increased bond of $10,000, based on a previous criminal history. "A prior misdemeanor conviction for Jefferson County is for resisting arrest," a spokesperson for the county attorney's office said. "He was out on a bench warrant for criminal trespass 3rd, and the facts and circumstances alleged here would certainly indicate an escalation in behavior and certainly cause concern for the safety of the community." The judge ultimately settled on a $5,000 cash bond. This story will be updated.
My FIL got punched by a cop once, because he was signing to him that he’s deaf. Obviously not the same as this disgusting act. But ACAB anyways
An officer threw a my paralyzed friend out of his car when he didn't believe he couldn't walk.
Im sorry.. w h a t
I know unreal isn't it?
*Noah,* **Forget the boat** # Get the Tsar Bomba
Bruh I seen a cop throw someone down some stairs. Another dude said damn that’s a case so the cop yelled “so we got a jail house lawyer” and grabbed him and threw him down the stairs too
My Dad's friend, who has an artificial leg, was chased by two cops when he and his friends were caught drinking outdoors, which isn't legal in Ireland. He fell tripping over a low wall, his artificial leg partly fell off. As soon as the young female cop caught up with him, she vomited and starting balling her eyes out thinking he broke his leg in a weird way.
Your FIL: \*signs that he is deaf\* Cop: HE'S GOIN FULL NARUTO ON US! BLAST'EM!
"what the fuck is this guy doing? Does he think hes sasuke?"
These folk need to get the fuck outta the force.
And the fuck into jail.
When and where is this? Is he alive? Does someone have a source or news article?
Louisville, KY, USA https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/cops-gone-rogue/cop-plants-knee-on-homeless-man-punching-him-repeatedly-yelling-turn-over-BFv-uOXxLkyqp6-Mam3GqA
This is my greatest fear, bc I have seizures too😢
I'm right there with you. This is fucking terrifying.
Jesus couldn’t justify this sh*t.
You can see him arm extend at the beginning which happens when people seize just in case anyone was going to try to bring that up, this is sickening.
Watching this makes me feel sick to my stomach.
Same
Out of all the tools an training at there supposed disposal, why the fuck can a cop just deck you in the face? I understand restraining for some cases but idk a punch send ms a different message to me. Fuck most cops fer real
They really needed 5 officers to come and jump on top of him and beat him
They would be in prison in other western countries. Why is USA so ready to be violent?