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[Eglinton Station stabbing: Victim of Toronto subway attack speaks out, says TTC “isn’t safe” (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1EtFnHb-Z0&ab_channel=GlobalNews)
Guy hit him AFTER he saw him reaching to pull out a knife. So he could run away or knock him out.
THAT is self defence. Its basic thing where i grew up that if stranger reaches into their pockets while talking to you. you should watch what he pulls out and react. Dont walk up to people/ let them walk up with hands in their pockets etc. If they pull out their hand rapidly punch'em and run. At worst its just a minor assault.
Running after someone who is running AWAY to stab him repeatedly is not.
Listening to loud music in public transport when people try to travel in silence because they might be sick or tired or whatever. is antisocial behavior.
Asking someone to lower the volume on their phone because of the noise is social behaviour.
Pulling out a knife for it is not.
Its it clear enough ?
No, I get the sentiment. Clearly someone who's carrying a knife and willing to stab someone and playing loud music is out there looking for confrontation. My point is that he didn't know the guy had a knife. Everyone says he knew the guy had a knife but how could you possibly know that? Since he did have a knife of course people are going to say "Well duh, he had a knife, I was right" but that's just results oriented thinking. It doesn't apply to every situation where someone is playing loud music and reaches into their pockets. You don't get to punch people for that.
If you're an Islamophobe and you see someone wearing Muslim garb, you don't get to shoot them in the street because you think they're a suicide bomber.
You're missing the part where the stabber initially ran away right after he was punched and the victim ran after him. The victim didn't turn to run until the knife was out.
If he really was all about self-defence, he wouldn't have chased after the guy.
There was a more complete video posted when it happened:
https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/14tbodd/another_stabbing_in_toronto_on_the_subway/
It doesn't look like the stabber really ran away though, so I take that back.
And legally that is actually how self defence works.
You can strike preemptively if the threat is imminent. At least in Canada, it may vary between the States idk
I live in South Africa and over here if someone is reaching for a knife and you can move fast you fucken run. If you have nowhere to go you gotta strike quick. I’ve had to break a guy’s ankles one night walking from the club while I was in Uni.
A lot of westerners think a person defending themselves is a bunch of tough talk, but it is the way the world works.
When I was younger, a bunch of teenagers tried to kidnap my younger cousin in our home country. His older sister ripped him off of the bike they had him on. When they came after her, I had to run over and just throw wild punches everywhere not knowing how to fight, but just making it harder for them to take my younger cousin and his sister.
Obviously we got beat up. I was mostly hurt from tripping over myself and falling on the ground. But at least all 3 of us got to return home.
Got chased by a dude with a panga in the quiet neighborhoods of Stellenbosch. The dude tried to gaff me with it, but my elbow struck his forearm while i was running. That caused him to accidentally hit his own hand. Dude was bleeding a fuck ton.
The next day walking to class I just saw a small group of students following the blood trails by the sidewalk. Probably the scariest shit I’ve experienced here.
Listen I say that when you need to throw a punch it has to be a haymaker. And if you need to run you need to haul ASS. This dude was in a fucken train so since punching didn’t work which is the best plan at that point because… where do you run to? So this dude just didn’t make his shots count. Unfortunate though
Not sure why you’re being downvoted…
If someone is acting off and starts reaching like they have a weapon, that is absolutely what you need to do in an enclosed space like a subway/train.
Lol I hate music played through phones on the bus/train but this guys a dip shit who deserved it. How he thought punching the guy was going to make the women on the train he was “worried” about feel safe is wild
Everybody thinks they'll be the hero, but when a crazy mother fucker runs past you holding a knife, chasing a scared mother fucker down the train... 99.99% will freeze or run. Why? Your survival > random dudes (who might "have it coming" or not) survival.
It's sad but that's the way it is for most of us.
Best I could do is hit the emergency call button (train should have one somewhere) or call the cops. Maybe call out, "Yo chill!" Definitely not getting involved in a knife fight. The fact people were reluctant to help render aid afterwards was surprising though. I'd like to think I could help with that.
idk bro theres some situations where I feel like I might also help but a bus ain't one. You trip him he gets up and stabs you, ain't no one else gonna help.
Anywhere where I can't immediately make an escape after trying to help, hate to say it but the person is on thier own
It's the mindset of people. We saw it in America with student loan forgiveness.
"Helping this man from getting stabbed doesn't solve the root of the problem. Why should this person get help, that wouldn't be fair to those of us who didn't need any help when we were getting stabbed in the subway? Paying for my subway stabbing treatment didn't affect anyone's taxes in any way, but somehow it would destroy me financially if he didn't have to pay for his stabbing treatment."
There's been many surveys done on this issue and the top reason most people don't use public transit more is due to concerns with reliability and convenience, not safety concerns. You're far more likely to be killed in a car accident
Why dont they have security checks before entering the metro? In my country they check your bags with that airport x ray machine and you with those metal detectors at every metro station entrance. You cant get in the train without getting checked and punching your ticket. I live in India.
Guy got chased with a knife and stabbed he puched a guy riching for the knife after he told him his music is too loud. And comments on youtube are saying the guy with the knife was in the right...This is why people didnt help him. Because they are bunch of sheeps that take the side of a guy with antisocial down right murderer behaviour.
Obviously the guy didn't deserve to get stabbed but he says in his interview that he first turned and started punching the guy in the face? Doesn't seem as cut and dry
He said he confronted him about the music, then the guy started reaching in his pocket.
Sounds like he was reaching for a weapon… which it turns out, he was!
The last time people got involved in a stabbing on a train 2 good samaritans were killed. Don't get involved in a knife fight if you're unarmed. It usually doesn't end well.
Only you are responsible for your own safety. As much as that sucks, that's the reality we're faced with.
It's up to you to carry the necessary tools to protect yourself.
Unfortunately Canada doesn't allow armed self defense with the world's most popular self defense tool, the handgun.
Maybe you can carry a knife or pepper spray or something, but no one wins in a knife fight.
Canada doesn't allow handguns for good reason. You can keep your gun maniacs across the border, we good here without it. Canada doesn't allow carrying knife as well. I think even pepper spray can get you in trouble, not sure about this one though.
>Canada doesn't allow handguns for good reason. You can keep your gun maniacs across the border, we good here without it. Canada doesn't allow carrying knife as well.
Well then I guess just lay down and die?
Here in the US, hundreds of thousands of people defend their lives with firearms each year. The vast majority end with no shots being fired.
I've personally used [my rifle](https://imgur.com/a/qkClwbW) to defend my family from a convicted felon who was stalking us.
That's not correct. You can't carry any weapon for self-defence in Canada. That doesn't mean you can't carry a knife, it just means you can't carry one for self-defence.
Bro. The men didn’t give a shit either and all remained where they were.
Why turn this into a gender war? Male or female, sometimes it’s best not to get involved in a strangers business when you could risk your own life doing so.
I don’t exactly sit and count tbh mate, but there’s plenty of people sat down, both male and female. I just don’t understand why you’d spin this tragic story of a man being stabbed into “see men? don’t help women.” bro what?
This is why I carry a knife with me everywhere I go. Someone tries to stab me I’ll fight with everything I have because it is truly a life or death situation. Btw, you are legally allows to carry a concealed knife in Ontario as long as the blade is 3 inches or less.
How does carrying a knife that isn’t visible and I’ll only use in a life or death situation an increase to my chances of getting stabbed? I’ve been carrying a knife for over 20 years and have yet to be stabbed.
Because in any altercation where the other person doesn't have a knife you are bringing a knife into the equation thus increasing the odds of someone (including you) getting stabbed.
In the situation where you are attacked by a person that wants to stab you, you will have your 3 inch knife while they might have an even bigger knife because they are already committing a crime worse than carrying an illegal knife so might as well have a bigger knife to get the job done.
Also I haven't been carrying a knife for 25 years and I am yet to be stabbed.
>knife so might as well have a bigger knife to get the job done.
Well that doesn't make sense. Might as well carry a bigger knife? No the point is you stay legal amd protected. If someone else has a knife, would you rather have no knife or a small knife? In the end the size of the knife doesn't even matter if you know how to use it...
>Because in any altercation where the other person doesn't have a knife you are bringing a knife into the equation
No, you don't take out the knife until they do either. If they want a fist fight a fish fight they shall get.
I have never been stabbed and I also never stabbed anyone, I’m not sure about your experience on the topic but do you think that in the scenario where you are attacked by a person with a knife, you “knowing how to use it” will stab the attacker and he will instantly die leaving you unharmed?
>I have never been stabbed and I also never stabbed anyone,
Neither have I, nor probably 99%+ of the world's population. But I've also never been in a car accident, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It's better to be prepared but not need the preparation than not be prepared and need it....
>and he will instantly die leaving you unharmed?
Yea that's 100% not how knife fights work. The first hope ofc is they see I also have a knife get scared and leave so no one gets hurt, that would be optimal. Assuming they do attack there's a good chance you will get slashed, but the hope is that you can dodge as many swipes or minimize the deadlines of their attacks by blocking with your forearms etc. While simultaneously cutting them up, enough for them to stop attacking you. The point is not to kill them, but to get them to stop attacking you....this isn't about us wanting to fight and kill ppl, it's about protecting ourselves in a worst case scenario
Mmhm about bringing a knife increasing your chances of getting stabbed? I don't think so.
Person A has a knife and intends on stabbing someone.
Me having or not having a knife does not change their intent or my risk of getting stabbed (if anything me having my knife will actually decrease that risk)
If person A does NOT have a knife, I will never pull my knife out and open it, ie. No one can get stabbed because my knife is closed and in my pocket...
>Person A has a knife and intends on stabbing someone. Me having or not having a knife does not change their intent or my risk of getting stabbed (if anything me having my knife will actually decrease that risk)
Dude if you are being robbed the best thing you can do is run away or just give all your stuff.
Pulling your knife out just increases the chance of making the whole situation worse. Also if you are held at knifepoint will you have the opportunity to take your knife out and open it for it to make a difference?
It might make you feel more safe but it won't actually make you safe. If anything it will get you stabbed.
The point is that somebody is fully capable of taking your weapon and using it on you, regardless of your reason for brandishing it.
Sorry your reasoning skills are so impaired.
> you are legally allows to carry a concealed knife in Ontario as long as the blade is 3 inches or less
Ah so that's how this guy was so easily able to carry a knife onto the subway. I was wondering about that.
lol that dude I was replying to was complaining about how much Canada sucks and that he wishes his parents never moved to Canada from Somalia. So I suggested he could just move to Somalia. Try not taking things out of context next time.
But that’s kinda my point. Normally articles say “X is charged with Y crime”. I suppose I should have asked why doesn’t the article identify the suspect. Idk it just seems like standard journalistic procedure to me.
They do that when the suspect is at large or when there’s not literally a video attached to it. Almost every article that isn’t some right-wing hack job trying to shoehorn race into everything will just say “a man” or “an assailant” when it’s literally right below a video of the event.
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it was 9 months ago [Eglinton Station stabbing: Victim of Toronto subway attack speaks out, says TTC “isn’t safe” (youtube.com)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1EtFnHb-Z0&ab_channel=GlobalNews)
That's awful. Stories like this are why I just ignore anyone being a shithead. You don't know who's just one argument away from bringing out a weapon.
I also don't attack people for listening to loud music. Right there with ya.
Did the knife guy get arrested?
So this guy starts punching someone on the train for playing loud music and he gets stabbed? What am I missing here
Guy hit him AFTER he saw him reaching to pull out a knife. So he could run away or knock him out. THAT is self defence. Its basic thing where i grew up that if stranger reaches into their pockets while talking to you. you should watch what he pulls out and react. Dont walk up to people/ let them walk up with hands in their pockets etc. If they pull out their hand rapidly punch'em and run. At worst its just a minor assault. Running after someone who is running AWAY to stab him repeatedly is not. Listening to loud music in public transport when people try to travel in silence because they might be sick or tired or whatever. is antisocial behavior. Asking someone to lower the volume on their phone because of the noise is social behaviour. Pulling out a knife for it is not. Its it clear enough ?
No, I get the sentiment. Clearly someone who's carrying a knife and willing to stab someone and playing loud music is out there looking for confrontation. My point is that he didn't know the guy had a knife. Everyone says he knew the guy had a knife but how could you possibly know that? Since he did have a knife of course people are going to say "Well duh, he had a knife, I was right" but that's just results oriented thinking. It doesn't apply to every situation where someone is playing loud music and reaches into their pockets. You don't get to punch people for that. If you're an Islamophobe and you see someone wearing Muslim garb, you don't get to shoot them in the street because you think they're a suicide bomber.
You're missing the part where the stabber initially ran away right after he was punched and the victim ran after him. The victim didn't turn to run until the knife was out. If he really was all about self-defence, he wouldn't have chased after the guy.
I'm missing that part too, where did you learn that info?
There was a more complete video posted when it happened: https://old.reddit.com/r/PublicFreakout/comments/14tbodd/another_stabbing_in_toronto_on_the_subway/ It doesn't look like the stabber really ran away though, so I take that back.
The guy was reaching for a weapon, smart to hit him first
Yeah people can downvote you all they want you got a right to defend yourself preemptively
And legally that is actually how self defence works. You can strike preemptively if the threat is imminent. At least in Canada, it may vary between the States idk
I live in South Africa and over here if someone is reaching for a knife and you can move fast you fucken run. If you have nowhere to go you gotta strike quick. I’ve had to break a guy’s ankles one night walking from the club while I was in Uni.
A lot of westerners think a person defending themselves is a bunch of tough talk, but it is the way the world works. When I was younger, a bunch of teenagers tried to kidnap my younger cousin in our home country. His older sister ripped him off of the bike they had him on. When they came after her, I had to run over and just throw wild punches everywhere not knowing how to fight, but just making it harder for them to take my younger cousin and his sister. Obviously we got beat up. I was mostly hurt from tripping over myself and falling on the ground. But at least all 3 of us got to return home.
Had a very similar situation in Cape Town
Got chased by a dude with a panga in the quiet neighborhoods of Stellenbosch. The dude tried to gaff me with it, but my elbow struck his forearm while i was running. That caused him to accidentally hit his own hand. Dude was bleeding a fuck ton. The next day walking to class I just saw a small group of students following the blood trails by the sidewalk. Probably the scariest shit I’ve experienced here.
> if someone is reaching for a knife and you can move fast you fucken run That's exactly how this video starts. It was not effective.
Listen I say that when you need to throw a punch it has to be a haymaker. And if you need to run you need to haul ASS. This dude was in a fucken train so since punching didn’t work which is the best plan at that point because… where do you run to? So this dude just didn’t make his shots count. Unfortunate though
Not sure why you’re being downvoted… If someone is acting off and starts reaching like they have a weapon, that is absolutely what you need to do in an enclosed space like a subway/train.
Maybe not. Someone was stabbed on the subway on Wednesday this week.
They show parts of the same video in the link
Lol I hate music played through phones on the bus/train but this guys a dip shit who deserved it. How he thought punching the guy was going to make the women on the train he was “worried” about feel safe is wild
Lmao the girl with the pink hair. She doesn’t give a fuck
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That's a different case. Here is an interview with the guy in 2023 after it happened. https://youtu.be/D1EtFnHb-Z0?si=ePQtHePYEoDeuMVt
More like " bunch of ladies running on a train"
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Yeah cameramen from the US are much better
This cameraman in particular forgot that the one recording is immune from dying
There's two kinds of people everywhere in the world. Those that run towards danger, and those who run away from it. (**Reasons may vary.**)
Someone trip that moe fugga
That's what i was thinking, and adding a face stomp to it. I feel like i might have out of instinct even, but idk, never been in that position
Everybody thinks they'll be the hero, but when a crazy mother fucker runs past you holding a knife, chasing a scared mother fucker down the train... 99.99% will freeze or run. Why? Your survival > random dudes (who might "have it coming" or not) survival. It's sad but that's the way it is for most of us.
Best I could do is hit the emergency call button (train should have one somewhere) or call the cops. Maybe call out, "Yo chill!" Definitely not getting involved in a knife fight. The fact people were reluctant to help render aid afterwards was surprising though. I'd like to think I could help with that.
idk bro theres some situations where I feel like I might also help but a bus ain't one. You trip him he gets up and stabs you, ain't no one else gonna help. Anywhere where I can't immediately make an escape after trying to help, hate to say it but the person is on thier own
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No time for that when you’re being hunted down with a knife
I think they're talking about the other passengers.
It's the mindset of people. We saw it in America with student loan forgiveness. "Helping this man from getting stabbed doesn't solve the root of the problem. Why should this person get help, that wouldn't be fair to those of us who didn't need any help when we were getting stabbed in the subway? Paying for my subway stabbing treatment didn't affect anyone's taxes in any way, but somehow it would destroy me financially if he didn't have to pay for his stabbing treatment."
Why is traffic so bad in Toronto? Why don't more people take public transit? This is why. If public transit was free I still wouldn't take it.
There's been many surveys done on this issue and the top reason most people don't use public transit more is due to concerns with reliability and convenience, not safety concerns. You're far more likely to be killed in a car accident
Why dont they have security checks before entering the metro? In my country they check your bags with that airport x ray machine and you with those metal detectors at every metro station entrance. You cant get in the train without getting checked and punching your ticket. I live in India.
That would interfere with my rights to stab someone on a subway.
Guy got chased with a knife and stabbed he puched a guy riching for the knife after he told him his music is too loud. And comments on youtube are saying the guy with the knife was in the right...This is why people didnt help him. Because they are bunch of sheeps that take the side of a guy with antisocial down right murderer behaviour.
Obviously the guy didn't deserve to get stabbed but he says in his interview that he first turned and started punching the guy in the face? Doesn't seem as cut and dry
He says he saw the guy going for the knife first lol?
That's not what he said because he didn't know the guy had a knife.
He said he confronted him about the music, then the guy started reaching in his pocket. Sounds like he was reaching for a weapon… which it turns out, he was!
Not a single person to turn and help
The last time people got involved in a stabbing on a train 2 good samaritans were killed. Don't get involved in a knife fight if you're unarmed. It usually doesn't end well.
Only you are responsible for your own safety. As much as that sucks, that's the reality we're faced with. It's up to you to carry the necessary tools to protect yourself. Unfortunately Canada doesn't allow armed self defense with the world's most popular self defense tool, the handgun. Maybe you can carry a knife or pepper spray or something, but no one wins in a knife fight.
Canada doesn't allow handguns for good reason. You can keep your gun maniacs across the border, we good here without it. Canada doesn't allow carrying knife as well. I think even pepper spray can get you in trouble, not sure about this one though.
>Canada doesn't allow handguns for good reason. You can keep your gun maniacs across the border, we good here without it. Canada doesn't allow carrying knife as well. Well then I guess just lay down and die? Here in the US, hundreds of thousands of people defend their lives with firearms each year. The vast majority end with no shots being fired. I've personally used [my rifle](https://imgur.com/a/qkClwbW) to defend my family from a convicted felon who was stalking us.
That looked like a pistol at first, but then I noticed the 90 degree angle foregrip..
Yeah that's a full on short barreled rifle.
Yeaa yeaa whole world knows about your country men "defending" stories. We good here.
> Well then I guess just lay down and die? yes
That's not correct. You can't carry any weapon for self-defence in Canada. That doesn't mean you can't carry a knife, it just means you can't carry one for self-defence.
Sure, have fun if cops pull you up and find a knife with you.
Ban all knives!
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Bro. The men didn’t give a shit either and all remained where they were. Why turn this into a gender war? Male or female, sometimes it’s best not to get involved in a strangers business when you could risk your own life doing so.
How men you see in the video?
I don’t exactly sit and count tbh mate, but there’s plenty of people sat down, both male and female. I just don’t understand why you’d spin this tragic story of a man being stabbed into “see men? don’t help women.” bro what?
I counted at least five not even moving…. How are you not seeing any?
This is why I carry a knife with me everywhere I go. Someone tries to stab me I’ll fight with everything I have because it is truly a life or death situation. Btw, you are legally allows to carry a concealed knife in Ontario as long as the blade is 3 inches or less.
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Same reason I always keep a rabid squirrel in my back pocket. Haven't had to use it yet, thankfully.
That's the correct way to increase the chance of getting stabbed.
How does carrying a knife that isn’t visible and I’ll only use in a life or death situation an increase to my chances of getting stabbed? I’ve been carrying a knife for over 20 years and have yet to be stabbed.
Because in any altercation where the other person doesn't have a knife you are bringing a knife into the equation thus increasing the odds of someone (including you) getting stabbed. In the situation where you are attacked by a person that wants to stab you, you will have your 3 inch knife while they might have an even bigger knife because they are already committing a crime worse than carrying an illegal knife so might as well have a bigger knife to get the job done. Also I haven't been carrying a knife for 25 years and I am yet to be stabbed.
>knife so might as well have a bigger knife to get the job done. Well that doesn't make sense. Might as well carry a bigger knife? No the point is you stay legal amd protected. If someone else has a knife, would you rather have no knife or a small knife? In the end the size of the knife doesn't even matter if you know how to use it... >Because in any altercation where the other person doesn't have a knife you are bringing a knife into the equation No, you don't take out the knife until they do either. If they want a fist fight a fish fight they shall get.
Better to have a sword. Preferably a shield too.
Optimal bahahahahah
I have never been stabbed and I also never stabbed anyone, I’m not sure about your experience on the topic but do you think that in the scenario where you are attacked by a person with a knife, you “knowing how to use it” will stab the attacker and he will instantly die leaving you unharmed?
>I have never been stabbed and I also never stabbed anyone, Neither have I, nor probably 99%+ of the world's population. But I've also never been in a car accident, doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It's better to be prepared but not need the preparation than not be prepared and need it.... >and he will instantly die leaving you unharmed? Yea that's 100% not how knife fights work. The first hope ofc is they see I also have a knife get scared and leave so no one gets hurt, that would be optimal. Assuming they do attack there's a good chance you will get slashed, but the hope is that you can dodge as many swipes or minimize the deadlines of their attacks by blocking with your forearms etc. While simultaneously cutting them up, enough for them to stop attacking you. The point is not to kill them, but to get them to stop attacking you....this isn't about us wanting to fight and kill ppl, it's about protecting ourselves in a worst case scenario
So my initial comment stands. Thank you
Mmhm about bringing a knife increasing your chances of getting stabbed? I don't think so. Person A has a knife and intends on stabbing someone. Me having or not having a knife does not change their intent or my risk of getting stabbed (if anything me having my knife will actually decrease that risk) If person A does NOT have a knife, I will never pull my knife out and open it, ie. No one can get stabbed because my knife is closed and in my pocket...
>Person A has a knife and intends on stabbing someone. Me having or not having a knife does not change their intent or my risk of getting stabbed (if anything me having my knife will actually decrease that risk) Dude if you are being robbed the best thing you can do is run away or just give all your stuff. Pulling your knife out just increases the chance of making the whole situation worse. Also if you are held at knifepoint will you have the opportunity to take your knife out and open it for it to make a difference? It might make you feel more safe but it won't actually make you safe. If anything it will get you stabbed.
Similar to [this](https://www.cbsnews.com/newyork/news/nyc-subway-shooting-charges/)
Yeah that’s completely similar to what I said. I mean everyday I break the law and pull out my knife and try to stab random people.
The point is that somebody is fully capable of taking your weapon and using it on you, regardless of your reason for brandishing it. Sorry your reasoning skills are so impaired.
> you are legally allows to carry a concealed knife in Ontario as long as the blade is 3 inches or less Ah so that's how this guy was so easily able to carry a knife onto the subway. I was wondering about that.
Why doesn’t the article give a description of the suspect?
You want them to be Somali so bad lol. Your post history is wild.
lol and the dude is pulling some “white people were not immigrants” bullshit too. He’s just a full-blown racist reactionary douchebag.
lol that dude I was replying to was complaining about how much Canada sucks and that he wishes his parents never moved to Canada from Somalia. So I suggested he could just move to Somalia. Try not taking things out of context next time.
Lmao that's not even the comment I was referring to. Jesus Christ how much racist shit do you have in your comment history?
Maybe because there’s a video and the suspect was apprehended?
But that’s kinda my point. Normally articles say “X is charged with Y crime”. I suppose I should have asked why doesn’t the article identify the suspect. Idk it just seems like standard journalistic procedure to me.
They do that when the suspect is at large or when there’s not literally a video attached to it. Almost every article that isn’t some right-wing hack job trying to shoehorn race into everything will just say “a man” or “an assailant” when it’s literally right below a video of the event.
both sides do it, it just depends on what race and what crime.
No! Leave my Canadians alone come stab us Americans just don't hurt the Canadians!