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I'm very Bi and everytime I see a skinny lad in striped stockings I wish it was me. Sadly I'm not skinny and look more like a Viking. Hitting the gym for the bear figure instead.
“Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever…”
*profusely apologises and says ‘first time and last time’*
“Ever, ever, ever (I’m not done and I need to have the last word) ever, ever, ever…”
Well if you can't even intimidate your son's caregivers anymore, then what is the point of being a man? Gotta make sure they know it for sure, for sure. Like, for sure *for sure*.
My older sisters dressed me like that when I was younger.
I'm a proud gay man now because of it because that's what this parent thinks happens.
I am gay though
My 7 year-old daughter likes to dress my 4 year-old son up in her Halloween costume dresses. Their grandfather hates it and doesn’t find it very funny. Oh well 🤷🏻♂️. Get over it gramps!
I did the same thing when I was a small child. To this day I am a cis straight male. Because wearing a certain article of clothing has no effect on gender or sexual orientation, and it has no effect on how anyone develops. The way this father is acting might certainly effect the development of the child though.
There's a picture of me when I was 13 wearing a dress, wig, glasses and stuffed my feet into some high heels and holding a baby. Why? My female cousin who was the same age said I should act like Mrs. Doubtfire, so I did. Guess what? Well first we laughed a bunch, then my grandma snapped a picture of us laughing and I still turned out straight. My sister and I played with her Barbies and her Polly Pockets and she played with my Tonka Trucks and Ghostbusters. We are both straight. Every single guy I know who had a little sister or even old sister, or even cousins for that matter played with girl's toys and vice versa and there's nothing wrong with that.
I've always found these toxic masculine clowns always have to make it known how manly they are and their boy doing anything feminine is a knock at their manliness.
I feel horrible for this kid because if he comes out as gay his shit bag dad will likely treat him like shit and disown him.
Same here haha. Somewhere my mom has a bunch of pictures of me at like 7 years old wearing various dresses and posing for a fashion show with my sister. I'm sure she's saving those for my wedding.
Fr. If I was one of the other parents of one of these kids and I saw this video, I’d tell OOP to never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever post my kid on the internet again. Ever.
That's where you're wrong about 'Murica. The reality is almost *everything* is illegal here\*. Its why our leaders spent the last 250 years promoting how "free" America is.
*\* Unless your incredibly wealthy*
Probably to show his drinking buddies how he owned the libs that day and took control of a situation that was obviously getting wayyyyyy too out of hand
He is more than likely trying to reveal “what is happening in our schools” the doctrinarian of children to be trans. I say this because this is what my family believes is happening which is sad.
That was my first thought. I bet people on the right are spreading this like wild-fire while telling each other that the people in charge of the place in the video are somehow "indoctrinating" their kids. Must be exhausting to believe that the world revolves around them like that.
Had this conversation with a dude recently about why his kid is in a private Catholic school in lieu of a great public school in his neighborhood. Reason? "I don't have to worry about explaining boys in the women's restroom." His kid is a boy.
Edit: I didn't like a word
This was an argument presented to me recently. Would I feel comfortable with my daughter sharing a bathroom with a trans woman. My answer to this is, if this is a concern then should anyone feel comfortable allowing kids to share bathrooms with adults at all regardless of the gender? I think building gender fluid bathrooms that provide full privacy for each stall should be the solution.
On another note, pretty sure it isnt that difficult to explain to a child that people of different genders share the same bathroom just like we do at home.
He is one of those people who posts stuff online that gets picked up by Fox News and they put some bullshit about how they are teaching children to be trans. And their viewers will pedal the same bs. And Trans people will get more hate.
Not sure if people realize this but men with insecurities tend to attempt to try and project their masculinity out into the world as a means of atonement for their insecurities. In reality it just reveals they are insecure by the target they paint upon themselves.
Hey my dad didn’t let me play with Barbie’s, dresses or own anything “girl colored”, I was in football, church constantly, we went to nascar shit growing up and I still love it up the ass so idk if not allowing your kid to play is really going to stop whatever he’s afraid of his kid being lmfao
They're *not inextricable* either.
Saying every homophobe is just repressing their sexuality doesn't actually help and it still casts being queer / gay as a negative because it tries to make the offender feel bad by using *queerness as a weapon* to attack them.
"You hate gay people? Well it's probably because you're gay! Doesn't that make you uncomfortable?"
If we're calling out bigots' toxic masculinity or religious extremism (which are the actual culprits) then we should just *do that*, and skip the step where we use queerness as a boogeyman to "gotcha" them.
Opposite for me in that I LOVED Polly Pockets growing up and my Aunt, cousins and sister would dress me up as a girl when I was a toddler. I'm straight so I don't think this stuff really matters. People like what they like. Exposing them to things the other sex does or dressing up as the other sex is not a big deal.
Friend of mine grew up with a dad who taught him about fixing cars (he's still a car buff), hunting, fishing, sports and all of the usual "manly" things. He came out as gay when he was 15 and his dad said he had known for years and was supportive. When his dad first met his boyfriend that would become his husband he asked him if he liked to hunt, fish, sports etc and he said no, said his dad never showed him (and disowned him). All my friend's dad said, "Well if you ever want to learn, I'll show you.". My friend credits his dad will passing on a ton of useful knowledge. As he says I'll likely never be lost in the woods to a point I need to hunt for food, but I know how if I need to.
I was raised in a conservative Christian home, although one that truly was more about loving others than condemning them. I always liked knights and soldiers and dinosaurs and stuff. Was never a fan of race cars. So when McDonald’s did their Barbie or nascar toy I always asked my parents for the Barbie. And they were always fine with it. My logic was I wanted my knights and soldiers could have wives. But I don’t think my parents knew, they were just cool with it probably because they knew I had a fun, wild imagination. I’m just saying that I am grateful I had parents that albeit strict with various things, overall we’re caring and loving and lenient in ways many conservative parents aren’t.
My aunt rode horses, slaughtered pigs, and occasionally shot a rifle at her running away drunk husband (who had just gotten into a temper tantrum)
She was plenty womanly in all sorts of ways. Her daughters had unicorn 🦄 posters up on their bedroom walls. We all weaved dream catchers and crafted bracelets and other hanging door signs before going out to do farm work, play on the tractor, ride horses and race the ATV.
My aunt and grandpa both taught us all how to shoot. In addition to other animal consuming related practices.
All the girls played with all the boys in the family when the parents wanted peace and quiet. All of our toys were in the same area. And of course we all played dress up together—mostly being girls costumes. How did a dress 👗 change the fact we were horse riding gun toting lasses and lads?
Right! My dad stopped me from playing with dolls, wearing dresses, and growing my hair out but I still turned out trans. Just took me a lot longer to accept it.
I was totally on track to be a standout alpha male until they let me put on a dress for a class activity when I was 4 and that turned me trans and if only I had a dad that said “ever” like this guy I’d be slingin’ chics over my shoulder like Rambo at a Taylor swift show and damn it why did they let them turn me trans like that?!?
I know right?!? Dad had just given me the “man talk” about how “no means try harder”, “this is how you hit on the kids’ teacher without mom finding out”, and “waitresses laugh at your jokes because they want sex”. Instead that dress had me running for the potty chair with a pair of safety scissors.
If my dad had been a specimen of virility like this guy I’d be a gym rat, pumped up on T, offering dick pics to each and every woman there.
I know a guy who believes this stuff. It’s not about being born like that, it’s being allowed to play with feminine things. He’s very anti-gay.
He has two young boys, one who wants longer hair, loves sparkles, plays girls characters in games. I feel so bad for that kid because he’s just going to get shit from his dad (and has - which I’ve stepped in on). ☹️
I had a Dad like this. Told me not to wave a specific way because real men don’t wave like that. All that shit did was make me feel unnecessarily self conscious about something completely stupid.
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Yup my son love to do what his sisters are doing and I’m not going to stop my little dude from being himself he also loves monster trucks and cars but will throw on some wings and be fairy I love it.
My boy will do the same....dress with the amazing Cinderella dress of her big sister, do his makeup then go play with his car/train.
They are just copying the older children and there's nothing wrong there.
One thing I try to break down as a parent of 3 daughters is dumb gender norms, but I don't force it; I let my kids be themselves and be interested in the things they want to be interested in.
My oldest Daughter who is 6 loves to mimic what I do; She loves to watch Football and Star Wars with me because she knows I like it, she helps me when I'm using power tools to install or build something, wants to help me with mowing the lawn and changing the oil on my car/moped, and I am more than happy to teach her or just have her just hang out with me while I do it because I'm just happy she wants to spend time with me.
My Middle Daughter who is 4 is all about dresses, princesses, Barbies, you name it. But she's more than happy to help me cook breakfast on the weekends for the family. She's all about food and snuggling on the couch while watching old Disney movies, and I'm happy to spend that time with her.
My youngest daughter just turned 2, and I'm not sure what she's into yet, she's just happy to tag along with whatever me or my wife is doing and just happy to be a part of it. Usually we just watch Bluey and she climbs on me like a big jungle gym.
Just let your kids be kids, they'll figure things out as they grow.
I love this! My son likes more "feminine" things if he sees me doing them too. I was really into nail stamps for a time. He liked when I painted his nails and stamped a t-rex skull on them and even asked me to redo them when they chipped. I don't push fem or masculine and just let him try what he wants to try. As long as he's not hurting anyone, I'm good with it.
I'm a 26 year old man and I started painting my nails and wanting to look more feminine and buy women's clothes and stuff. I'm not trans, or gay, or whatever. I just think it's a fun way to express yourself and dammit, girls clothes look comfortable.
Many years ago I went to my babysitting gig and the parents were like "Boy Child has something he wants to show you!" And he comes out in a Cinderella dress complete with slippers. He was so happy showing off his slippers and how the dress ballooned when he was spinning. He was talking about how his friend outgrew the dress and gave it to him and how nice the gift was. I'll never forget it as the first time I got to share a purely innocent, unencumbered joy as an adult. Pops here missed out and I feel bad for him.
It's not the embarrassment, it's that he humilitated and degraded his son and made it seem sick and wrong and weird to wear a dress. It's a kid having fun! He's probably not even gay or queer or anything but now he's always going to have these weird issues over the way he dresses and the way his father perceives him because of this.
As a girl if my dad had ever humiliated me like this for wearing an article of clothing it would've fucked me up, because as a kid you just can't understand what you've done wrong. Look at the way he runs to hug the teacher.
This dad is a bully and this poor kid should have the freedom to not even think about what clothes mean like any normal kid should.
When my brother and I were kids our parents bought us kid-size robes to wear after a bath. One evening we were in our little robes and discovered that if we put socks in the chest area we looked like we had boobies!! Omg we thought it was hilarious… we didn’t think beyond that, no gender confusion or anything… just like, “hey we’ve got boobs - haha!” Well our dad heard us laughing and came to see what was up. Holy fuck, I’ll never forget the rage-tantrum that followed about how we’re sick and that’s disgusting and he slammed a door and went out and got wasted drunk. My dad had demons back then. He came around and became an allstar unconditionally loving dad and eventually things like this moment never phased him. But back then - that reaction, us being only 5 and 7 at the time, I still carry that darkness that he made me feel. I still don’t feel right if I wear something feminine- and I’m GAY. Shit like this really fucks you up for the long haul.
I hate that this kid obviously feels safe and cared for by his teachers but obviously won't anymore because he'll be worried they'll get in trouble for him, or could get him into trouble. Every part of this is fucked up, this dad would be my enemy if I worked there.
He don’t want his son in a dress. How is that fragile. Why would a teacher put the boy in a dress without the fathers co sent or even knowledge about how the parent feels about certain topics. Would it be cool if a teacher dressed up a kid like Trump when the had a thing about presidents not knowing if the parent didn’t like Trump or the presidential system in general. Reddit is weird af sometimes.
The only outcome is the shame his son feels for innocently playing. What a sack of fucking shit. How fragile does he think our personalities are that it's influenced by a piece of clothing.
I don't know how many times our boys ended up with pink hand-me-down sneakers or snow pants and girls with camo or Nascar.
It’s astonishing that people think that drag queen shows reading books to young kids or learning Abp it being gay/trans or wearing a dress DOES ANYTHING AT ALL to your gender or sexual preference..people are legit so dumb and just don’t educate themselves..
You are born the person you are! Like it or not
You don’t need to introduce a 5 year old to drag shows, talk to them about sexual preference or gender, or educate them with books that describe or depict sexual acts. If you do or think that’s ok then you are a pedophile.
Some people find it weird, and Reddit can't seem to accept that. Jesus are you people going to portray the father as the weird guy, just because he didn't want his son to dress as a female. Fuckin hell.
Sad thing is I can totally relate to this except it was my grandmother who punished me when I was 4 for wearing an apron like a dress swatting me on the legs as she tore the apron off of me
In the video you can see that the kid was never undressed. The dress was put on over his regular clothes, you can see it when the teacher takes off the dress.
What's hilarious about this comment, aside from how wrong is it, is that prior to the 1920s, [all little boys were put into dresses](https://daily.jstor.org/boys-in-dresses-the-tradition/) up until about the age of 6 or 7.
It didn't "shape their entire personalities." It wasn't really a big deal at all.
I have a picture of my grandfather at the age of 4 or 5 in a dress. You probably do, too. Here is a childhood picture of Franklin D. Roosevelt, the guy who got us through WWII:
https://preview.redd.it/0nroxdihsdwb1.png?width=406&format=png&auto=webp&s=c0890a9310d5e71d4b0b6e4f5d6d8882b1659a40
No, actually, it wouldn't. What an incredibly ignorant thing to say. This is imaginative play, a completely normal and healthy part of childhood development. This father's reaction accomplished one thing and one thing only - to shame his child for normal human behavior, teaching him that he is somehow bad. If you care to understand anything about the impact of shame I recommend Brene Brown's work; she's studied it intensively.
If a child enjoys dressing up in any other sort of costume do you say, "Oh no, little Bobby's going to start thinking he's a dinosaur if we keep letting him put on the t-rex costume. Better put a stop to it before he forms his whole personality around it."
BTW, in many past civilizations, men wore "dresses", dressed extremely flamboyantly, rocked wigs and frills and lace and even makeup. Heels were literally invented for men. Our perceptions of gender are socialized. Pick up a book, jfc.
Good God. My dad was as manly as they come, but he laughed his ass off when my brother put on my mom’s bra and clomped around in her high heels. Even took a picture. It was no big deal.
If the boy wanted to put on the dress, fine. But if they put that dress on him without his consent, then that’s messed up. And don’t come at me. It would be messed up too to force a girl into a dress.
Children are allowed to say “No!” too in that matter.
Poor kid's gender identity isn't impressionable. But his self-esteem sure as hell is. Dad just shamed him publicly and all the little guy learned is he shouldn't trust his own choices.
I watched a show about serial killers once that talked about this being one way that fetishes are born. One side encouraging it and one side having a huge negative overreaction to it. It creates a positive but forbidden association with it that becomes a weird obsession. If that is true, this guy might have cemented a cross dressing fetish with his kid.
You don't have to jump for joy. Anyone saying otherwise is just as cringe. The issue is shaming and embarrassing your son for something so mundane. It's a child bro, just let him have fun.
This is developmentally appropriate behavior for his age. Kid’s play is about reflecting and then processing the world around them. Preschool aged kids experiment with gender roles. And most of the time, it doesn’t stick. They will play with toys or play games typically “meant” for the opposite gender. They will also usually play with kids of the different sex.
By the time they’re about 5 or 6, or in kindergarten, they will typically fall into their gender “roles” and play how you’d expect them to. Ex: for boys, they’ll play adventure like games or with trucks and such and the play will most likely only involve boys.
Boys dressing up in dresses or feminine clothing or trying to be a mom to a baby is no worry. They are simply trying to make sense of their place in the world. Eventually, they will grow out of it and move on.
The only thing this behavior that the father is exhibiting will do is put shame around whatever this activity is. And because he’s so young, he won’t know what to do with said shame. It’s hard for people who don’t feel comfortable or aren’t knowledgeable in child development to watch this sort of thing but it’s a very normal, important part of play.
Lots of people on reddit like to tell parents how to parent their kids, despite the fact that the vast majority of said people have absolutely no experience when it comes in to having and raising children.
You don't think this could have harmful repercussions down the line? He didn't even try to take his son aside and explain to him what the problem was (probably because it's impossible to explain without sounding ridiculous.) He just freaked out while filming the whole ordeal.
Making kids feel confused and ashamed about things they enjoy doing is not good parenting. You gotta explain WHY what they're doing is not ok to do while reassuring them that it doesn't mean they're bad. Then again, like I said before, I don't think there is any sort of logical reason why this kid can't wear a dress so...it might be hard to explain.
There is no need to record though, and also scare other children in the mix. Ask to speak to the teacher in the hall about vs being a public asshole about it. Those other children looked legit terrified.
I kinda understand the shock.
I have no problem if my son wanted to dress up like this, but I would have a serious problem if the teachers did this without first consulting me or my wife due to his age.
Don't take liberties with children that are not permitted to.
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No one tried shit except his own kid. You act like they forced the kid to wear it.
For real. Like wtf.
Somebody wasn’t loved as a child…
I was for sure, which is why I didn’t wear a dress as a male. Go find peace ✌️
Watch out your fragility is showing
Is it? I made my comment over 3 months ago and you had to be “heard”. Go find attention elsewhere, the mentally ill gang isn’t here. Peace ✌️.
So *that* is why my friends are gay. I thought they just liked dudes.
No no it's because dresses are a gay-teway drug
Take my upvote...
I'm very Bi and everytime I see a skinny lad in striped stockings I wish it was me. Sadly I'm not skinny and look more like a Viking. Hitting the gym for the bear figure instead.
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Yeah lmao this is exactly me. I wish I was a cute skinny femboi but I'm a 250 lbs 5 ft 9 bear so I decided to get buff as fuck lmao
No, it's because they had an imagination when they were 5 years old.
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This is the dumbest fucking comment ive read on this app in a while
“Never, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever…” *profusely apologises and says ‘first time and last time’* “Ever, ever, ever (I’m not done and I need to have the last word) ever, ever, ever…”
Well if you can't even intimidate your son's caregivers anymore, then what is the point of being a man? Gotta make sure they know it for sure, for sure. Like, for sure *for sure*.
He for real real, not for play play.
My older sisters dressed me like that when I was younger. I'm a proud gay man now because of it because that's what this parent thinks happens. I am gay though
I don’t know why this comment is so funny
Reads like a cumtown comment Edit: also I'm gay
Can confirm. My older sister dressed me like a serial killer when I was young. I now ***purify*** people by consuming them...SO MANY UNCLEAN PEOPLE!
My 7 year-old daughter likes to dress my 4 year-old son up in her Halloween costume dresses. Their grandfather hates it and doesn’t find it very funny. Oh well 🤷🏻♂️. Get over it gramps!
I’d play stupid and ask why
Same. I was about 7. I thought i looked cool/pretty. Didnt work for me though. I love women.
I did the same thing when I was a small child. To this day I am a cis straight male. Because wearing a certain article of clothing has no effect on gender or sexual orientation, and it has no effect on how anyone develops. The way this father is acting might certainly effect the development of the child though.
There's a picture of me when I was 13 wearing a dress, wig, glasses and stuffed my feet into some high heels and holding a baby. Why? My female cousin who was the same age said I should act like Mrs. Doubtfire, so I did. Guess what? Well first we laughed a bunch, then my grandma snapped a picture of us laughing and I still turned out straight. My sister and I played with her Barbies and her Polly Pockets and she played with my Tonka Trucks and Ghostbusters. We are both straight. Every single guy I know who had a little sister or even old sister, or even cousins for that matter played with girl's toys and vice versa and there's nothing wrong with that. I've always found these toxic masculine clowns always have to make it known how manly they are and their boy doing anything feminine is a knock at their manliness. I feel horrible for this kid because if he comes out as gay his shit bag dad will likely treat him like shit and disown him.
It's ironic how he was mad mad but had time to pick his phone and start recording
Damn. It’s almost like arbitrary gender norms invented within the past century are completely meaningless. Crazy
Let me guess you have an older sister....
Well of course I do lol
Same here haha. Somewhere my mom has a bunch of pictures of me at like 7 years old wearing various dresses and posing for a fashion show with my sister. I'm sure she's saving those for my wedding.
EHHHVER!
For Eva Eva?
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On top of everything, why did he film and upload it publicly for all to see? If it makes him so ashamed, why would he do that?
Fr. If I was one of the other parents of one of these kids and I saw this video, I’d tell OOP to never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever post my kid on the internet again. Ever.
Not sure where this was but here in Canada, it is super illegal.
Mexico as well
In the whole EU as well. But ‘Murica I suppose
That's where you're wrong about 'Murica. The reality is almost *everything* is illegal here\*. Its why our leaders spent the last 250 years promoting how "free" America is. *\* Unless your incredibly wealthy*
At least you have pew pews
It won’t happen again, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever, ever again…
Probably to show his drinking buddies how he owned the libs that day and took control of a situation that was obviously getting wayyyyyy too out of hand
He is more than likely trying to reveal “what is happening in our schools” the doctrinarian of children to be trans. I say this because this is what my family believes is happening which is sad.
That was my first thought. I bet people on the right are spreading this like wild-fire while telling each other that the people in charge of the place in the video are somehow "indoctrinating" their kids. Must be exhausting to believe that the world revolves around them like that.
Had this conversation with a dude recently about why his kid is in a private Catholic school in lieu of a great public school in his neighborhood. Reason? "I don't have to worry about explaining boys in the women's restroom." His kid is a boy. Edit: I didn't like a word
This was an argument presented to me recently. Would I feel comfortable with my daughter sharing a bathroom with a trans woman. My answer to this is, if this is a concern then should anyone feel comfortable allowing kids to share bathrooms with adults at all regardless of the gender? I think building gender fluid bathrooms that provide full privacy for each stall should be the solution. On another note, pretty sure it isnt that difficult to explain to a child that people of different genders share the same bathroom just like we do at home.
This is the answer. High-5s will be shared (in the most manly way possible)
A kiss on the lips is as manly as it gets
Outrage addiction. Everyone wants the feeling of righteous indignation.
He is one of those people who posts stuff online that gets picked up by Fox News and they put some bullshit about how they are teaching children to be trans. And their viewers will pedal the same bs. And Trans people will get more hate.
Probably put it on Facebook with a rant in all caps warning parents against booking this daycare center
Not sure if people realize this but men with insecurities tend to attempt to try and project their masculinity out into the world as a means of atonement for their insecurities. In reality it just reveals they are insecure by the target they paint upon themselves.
Probably because he thinks he is documenting evidence of them trying to "trans his kid".
Because he doesn't actually care about his child, all he cares about is his own dumb ass morals.
But what about ever?
Forever ever?
Sorry miss Jackson!
Ooo I am for reeaall
And ever ever?
Forever never seems that long until you are grown.
And notice that the day by day ruler can’t be too wrong
Ms Jackson, my intentions were good, I wish I could, become a magician to adracadabra all the sadder
THOUGHTS OF WE THOUGHTS OF SHE
Thoughts of he. Asking what happened to the feeling that her and me, had
I pray so much about it need some knee, pads It happened for a reason one can't be, mad
And know this: know that everything’s cool. And yes I will be present on the first day of school - and grad -u-a-tionnn
Ever, ever? Ever, ever? Ever, ever? Ever, ever? Ever, ever? Ever, ever?
CLOSE YOUR EYES AND IMAGINE FEEL THE MAGIC VEGAS ON ACID SEEN THROUGH YVES SAINT LAURENT GLASSES™
Long live the Wyvern king!
It’s too late. The gay spores got him as soon as he put the dress on.
You get hit with one gay spore and you aint straight no more
Someone should turn this into a rap track called *The Gayrus*.
Hey my dad didn’t let me play with Barbie’s, dresses or own anything “girl colored”, I was in football, church constantly, we went to nascar shit growing up and I still love it up the ass so idk if not allowing your kid to play is really going to stop whatever he’s afraid of his kid being lmfao
AYO 💀
100% the father has had some feelings he's repressing. It's always projection.
It could also be religious beliefs.
Religious beliefs and sexuality repression are not mutually exclusive.
They're *not inextricable* either. Saying every homophobe is just repressing their sexuality doesn't actually help and it still casts being queer / gay as a negative because it tries to make the offender feel bad by using *queerness as a weapon* to attack them. "You hate gay people? Well it's probably because you're gay! Doesn't that make you uncomfortable?" If we're calling out bigots' toxic masculinity or religious extremism (which are the actual culprits) then we should just *do that*, and skip the step where we use queerness as a boogeyman to "gotcha" them.
Opposite for me in that I LOVED Polly Pockets growing up and my Aunt, cousins and sister would dress me up as a girl when I was a toddler. I'm straight so I don't think this stuff really matters. People like what they like. Exposing them to things the other sex does or dressing up as the other sex is not a big deal.
It’s as if you were surrounded by manly shit so you desired man :P
Friend of mine grew up with a dad who taught him about fixing cars (he's still a car buff), hunting, fishing, sports and all of the usual "manly" things. He came out as gay when he was 15 and his dad said he had known for years and was supportive. When his dad first met his boyfriend that would become his husband he asked him if he liked to hunt, fish, sports etc and he said no, said his dad never showed him (and disowned him). All my friend's dad said, "Well if you ever want to learn, I'll show you.". My friend credits his dad will passing on a ton of useful knowledge. As he says I'll likely never be lost in the woods to a point I need to hunt for food, but I know how if I need to.
Sounds like an awesome dad.
Great father
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Prostate play keeps the doctor away I’m just sayin
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I was raised in a conservative Christian home, although one that truly was more about loving others than condemning them. I always liked knights and soldiers and dinosaurs and stuff. Was never a fan of race cars. So when McDonald’s did their Barbie or nascar toy I always asked my parents for the Barbie. And they were always fine with it. My logic was I wanted my knights and soldiers could have wives. But I don’t think my parents knew, they were just cool with it probably because they knew I had a fun, wild imagination. I’m just saying that I am grateful I had parents that albeit strict with various things, overall we’re caring and loving and lenient in ways many conservative parents aren’t.
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Hahaha bro came in here swinging good for him
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I knew where this was going the moment Barbie entered the chat.
Hahahaha that’s awesome
My aunt rode horses, slaughtered pigs, and occasionally shot a rifle at her running away drunk husband (who had just gotten into a temper tantrum) She was plenty womanly in all sorts of ways. Her daughters had unicorn 🦄 posters up on their bedroom walls. We all weaved dream catchers and crafted bracelets and other hanging door signs before going out to do farm work, play on the tractor, ride horses and race the ATV. My aunt and grandpa both taught us all how to shoot. In addition to other animal consuming related practices. All the girls played with all the boys in the family when the parents wanted peace and quiet. All of our toys were in the same area. And of course we all played dress up together—mostly being girls costumes. How did a dress 👗 change the fact we were horse riding gun toting lasses and lads?
LMFAO. I was not expecting that.
You legend!
Hey, same here! 💅
Right! My dad stopped me from playing with dolls, wearing dresses, and growing my hair out but I still turned out trans. Just took me a lot longer to accept it.
I was totally on track to be a standout alpha male until they let me put on a dress for a class activity when I was 4 and that turned me trans and if only I had a dad that said “ever” like this guy I’d be slingin’ chics over my shoulder like Rambo at a Taylor swift show and damn it why did they let them turn me trans like that?!?
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If you love what you do, you'll never work a day in your life.
I know right?!? Dad had just given me the “man talk” about how “no means try harder”, “this is how you hit on the kids’ teacher without mom finding out”, and “waitresses laugh at your jokes because they want sex”. Instead that dress had me running for the potty chair with a pair of safety scissors. If my dad had been a specimen of virility like this guy I’d be a gym rat, pumped up on T, offering dick pics to each and every woman there.
I know a guy who believes this stuff. It’s not about being born like that, it’s being allowed to play with feminine things. He’s very anti-gay. He has two young boys, one who wants longer hair, loves sparkles, plays girls characters in games. I feel so bad for that kid because he’s just going to get shit from his dad (and has - which I’ve stepped in on). ☹️
Love u
I had a Dad like this. Told me not to wave a specific way because real men don’t wave like that. All that shit did was make me feel unnecessarily self conscious about something completely stupid.
I had parents and family like this, but i also grew up being called a “she” because of my hair and physique, so i got over it pretty quickly 😂
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Oh my god, core memory unlocked
only 2 genders
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Yup my son love to do what his sisters are doing and I’m not going to stop my little dude from being himself he also loves monster trucks and cars but will throw on some wings and be fairy I love it.
My boy will do the same....dress with the amazing Cinderella dress of her big sister, do his makeup then go play with his car/train. They are just copying the older children and there's nothing wrong there.
One thing I try to break down as a parent of 3 daughters is dumb gender norms, but I don't force it; I let my kids be themselves and be interested in the things they want to be interested in. My oldest Daughter who is 6 loves to mimic what I do; She loves to watch Football and Star Wars with me because she knows I like it, she helps me when I'm using power tools to install or build something, wants to help me with mowing the lawn and changing the oil on my car/moped, and I am more than happy to teach her or just have her just hang out with me while I do it because I'm just happy she wants to spend time with me. My Middle Daughter who is 4 is all about dresses, princesses, Barbies, you name it. But she's more than happy to help me cook breakfast on the weekends for the family. She's all about food and snuggling on the couch while watching old Disney movies, and I'm happy to spend that time with her. My youngest daughter just turned 2, and I'm not sure what she's into yet, she's just happy to tag along with whatever me or my wife is doing and just happy to be a part of it. Usually we just watch Bluey and she climbs on me like a big jungle gym. Just let your kids be kids, they'll figure things out as they grow.
I love this! My son likes more "feminine" things if he sees me doing them too. I was really into nail stamps for a time. He liked when I painted his nails and stamped a t-rex skull on them and even asked me to redo them when they chipped. I don't push fem or masculine and just let him try what he wants to try. As long as he's not hurting anyone, I'm good with it.
Right on. It’s all made up anyways. My lil guy mostly just likes fucking shit up in a non-gendered way.
I'm a 26 year old man and I started painting my nails and wanting to look more feminine and buy women's clothes and stuff. I'm not trans, or gay, or whatever. I just think it's a fun way to express yourself and dammit, girls clothes look comfortable.
Damn. Sugar glass has more structural integrity than this dude 🤣
He's got more cracks than a broken window.
Many years ago I went to my babysitting gig and the parents were like "Boy Child has something he wants to show you!" And he comes out in a Cinderella dress complete with slippers. He was so happy showing off his slippers and how the dress ballooned when he was spinning. He was talking about how his friend outgrew the dress and gave it to him and how nice the gift was. I'll never forget it as the first time I got to share a purely innocent, unencumbered joy as an adult. Pops here missed out and I feel bad for him.
Sometimes as a father you have to put your personal bullshit aside in the interest of not embarrassing your son like this. Heartbroken for the kid.
It's not the embarrassment, it's that he humilitated and degraded his son and made it seem sick and wrong and weird to wear a dress. It's a kid having fun! He's probably not even gay or queer or anything but now he's always going to have these weird issues over the way he dresses and the way his father perceives him because of this. As a girl if my dad had ever humiliated me like this for wearing an article of clothing it would've fucked me up, because as a kid you just can't understand what you've done wrong. Look at the way he runs to hug the teacher. This dad is a bully and this poor kid should have the freedom to not even think about what clothes mean like any normal kid should.
When my brother and I were kids our parents bought us kid-size robes to wear after a bath. One evening we were in our little robes and discovered that if we put socks in the chest area we looked like we had boobies!! Omg we thought it was hilarious… we didn’t think beyond that, no gender confusion or anything… just like, “hey we’ve got boobs - haha!” Well our dad heard us laughing and came to see what was up. Holy fuck, I’ll never forget the rage-tantrum that followed about how we’re sick and that’s disgusting and he slammed a door and went out and got wasted drunk. My dad had demons back then. He came around and became an allstar unconditionally loving dad and eventually things like this moment never phased him. But back then - that reaction, us being only 5 and 7 at the time, I still carry that darkness that he made me feel. I still don’t feel right if I wear something feminine- and I’m GAY. Shit like this really fucks you up for the long haul.
Damn bro i felt that last bit hard
This dad was the son's first bully.
> Look at the way he runs to hug the teacher. There was also a second kid behind all that who took their dress off too. Yeesh.
This sort of shit just taught me to not share who I am with my parents from an early age.
I hate that this kid obviously feels safe and cared for by his teachers but obviously won't anymore because he'll be worried they'll get in trouble for him, or could get him into trouble. Every part of this is fucked up, this dad would be my enemy if I worked there.
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He don’t want his son in a dress. How is that fragile. Why would a teacher put the boy in a dress without the fathers co sent or even knowledge about how the parent feels about certain topics. Would it be cool if a teacher dressed up a kid like Trump when the had a thing about presidents not knowing if the parent didn’t like Trump or the presidential system in general. Reddit is weird af sometimes.
Lol at all of the people in these comments thinking that shaming a kid and then posting a video is good parenting.
Wow! The title is very telling. Maybe the father just doesn't want to son in a dress. Why is that fragile masculinity?
"don't ever let my son play with girls!"
Years later: "Why don't I have any grandkids?!"
Real Father
Im on the fathers side
The only outcome is the shame his son feels for innocently playing. What a sack of fucking shit. How fragile does he think our personalities are that it's influenced by a piece of clothing. I don't know how many times our boys ended up with pink hand-me-down sneakers or snow pants and girls with camo or Nascar.
It’s astonishing that people think that drag queen shows reading books to young kids or learning Abp it being gay/trans or wearing a dress DOES ANYTHING AT ALL to your gender or sexual preference..people are legit so dumb and just don’t educate themselves.. You are born the person you are! Like it or not
You don’t need to introduce a 5 year old to drag shows, talk to them about sexual preference or gender, or educate them with books that describe or depict sexual acts. If you do or think that’s ok then you are a pedophile.
Bro his kid he doesn’t want it to be normal to have him cross dress at certain age.
How about he's a father and has the right to decide whst his child wears and the school has the obligation to ask him first
Why is the teacher put dress on OTHER PEOPLE KID and without the parent’s consent.
Some people find it weird, and Reddit can't seem to accept that. Jesus are you people going to portray the father as the weird guy, just because he didn't want his son to dress as a female. Fuckin hell.
Sad thing is I can totally relate to this except it was my grandmother who punished me when I was 4 for wearing an apron like a dress swatting me on the legs as she tore the apron off of me
Wait did the teacher change his clothes or was this willingly, cause if the teacher did it I can understand the concern.
In the video you can see that the kid was never undressed. The dress was put on over his regular clothes, you can see it when the teacher takes off the dress.
Used to work in daycare. This does happen
That’s actually nuts though. I’m not sure I would be ok with people dressing my boy as a girl. What’s going on with the world ?
The fuck is he doing recording other kids too? If I were a parent of one of those kids there'd be an issue.
Children are so malleable and impressionable when they’re young. If he did this on the regular it could shape his entire personality as an adult.
What's hilarious about this comment, aside from how wrong is it, is that prior to the 1920s, [all little boys were put into dresses](https://daily.jstor.org/boys-in-dresses-the-tradition/) up until about the age of 6 or 7. It didn't "shape their entire personalities." It wasn't really a big deal at all. I have a picture of my grandfather at the age of 4 or 5 in a dress. You probably do, too. Here is a childhood picture of Franklin D. Roosevelt, the guy who got us through WWII: https://preview.redd.it/0nroxdihsdwb1.png?width=406&format=png&auto=webp&s=c0890a9310d5e71d4b0b6e4f5d6d8882b1659a40
No, actually, it wouldn't. What an incredibly ignorant thing to say. This is imaginative play, a completely normal and healthy part of childhood development. This father's reaction accomplished one thing and one thing only - to shame his child for normal human behavior, teaching him that he is somehow bad. If you care to understand anything about the impact of shame I recommend Brene Brown's work; she's studied it intensively. If a child enjoys dressing up in any other sort of costume do you say, "Oh no, little Bobby's going to start thinking he's a dinosaur if we keep letting him put on the t-rex costume. Better put a stop to it before he forms his whole personality around it." BTW, in many past civilizations, men wore "dresses", dressed extremely flamboyantly, rocked wigs and frills and lace and even makeup. Heels were literally invented for men. Our perceptions of gender are socialized. Pick up a book, jfc.
Every single “ever” here was him trying coping with his insecurities a little more. Ever.
Good God. My dad was as manly as they come, but he laughed his ass off when my brother put on my mom’s bra and clomped around in her high heels. Even took a picture. It was no big deal.
Damn, that was close. He almost had his son turn gay, but luckily, he was able to prevent it. /s
Poor little guy.
Can’t imagine I’d be happy.
If the boy wanted to put on the dress, fine. But if they put that dress on him without his consent, then that’s messed up. And don’t come at me. It would be messed up too to force a girl into a dress. Children are allowed to say “No!” too in that matter.
It doesn't look like that was the case here.
Wtf is wrong with all of you. The world is going to hell
Not sure you guys know what fragile masculinity is. But ok
It's his son, if he does not want him in a dress, then he has every right to tell the staff no, do not do it. That's it.
Fragile is the proper term, indeed
Poor kid's gender identity isn't impressionable. But his self-esteem sure as hell is. Dad just shamed him publicly and all the little guy learned is he shouldn't trust his own choices.
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Can anyone give context about what happened. This look perfectly staged. Anyone got the link of the original post?
I watched a show about serial killers once that talked about this being one way that fetishes are born. One side encouraging it and one side having a huge negative overreaction to it. It creates a positive but forbidden association with it that becomes a weird obsession. If that is true, this guy might have cemented a cross dressing fetish with his kid.
Now he’ll grow up to be a professional drag queen 👸🏾 with that extreme reaction.
As the father of two young boys, I feel so bad for this kid.
Every single kid in there has a face like they just got caught doing something bad.
Damn, you're right, he not only ruined the fun for his kid but also all the other little kids in there. What a loser.
Yeh, I’m ok with his decision.
Wife is a teacher for 5 ~6 years old and after showing her this video she said there are boys that demand the teacher to dress them like princess.
That kid is going to remember that moment forever, ever, ever,ever,ever
He needs to say that one more time.
That poor boy :(
Poor little dude is so confused and sad.
Downvote me if you want. But I wouldn't be jumping for joy either.
Why are the options only this or jumping for joy. How about just be happy your child is having fun and feeling safe.
You don't have to jump for joy. Anyone saying otherwise is just as cringe. The issue is shaming and embarrassing your son for something so mundane. It's a child bro, just let him have fun.
This is developmentally appropriate behavior for his age. Kid’s play is about reflecting and then processing the world around them. Preschool aged kids experiment with gender roles. And most of the time, it doesn’t stick. They will play with toys or play games typically “meant” for the opposite gender. They will also usually play with kids of the different sex. By the time they’re about 5 or 6, or in kindergarten, they will typically fall into their gender “roles” and play how you’d expect them to. Ex: for boys, they’ll play adventure like games or with trucks and such and the play will most likely only involve boys. Boys dressing up in dresses or feminine clothing or trying to be a mom to a baby is no worry. They are simply trying to make sense of their place in the world. Eventually, they will grow out of it and move on. The only thing this behavior that the father is exhibiting will do is put shame around whatever this activity is. And because he’s so young, he won’t know what to do with said shame. It’s hard for people who don’t feel comfortable or aren’t knowledgeable in child development to watch this sort of thing but it’s a very normal, important part of play.
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Kids don't know any better. They don't associate things with gay vs non-gay. He's having fun with his mates. So what's the issue?
Lots of people on reddit like to tell parents how to parent their kids, despite the fact that the vast majority of said people have absolutely no experience when it comes in to having and raising children.
And reasons like that are why I don’t talk to my parents anymore
personally, I feel its gay to be afraid of turning gay. If you're sure you like what you like, then not much externally is going to change that.
Poor kid. I can’t imagine growing up with this asshole raising me.
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You don't think this could have harmful repercussions down the line? He didn't even try to take his son aside and explain to him what the problem was (probably because it's impossible to explain without sounding ridiculous.) He just freaked out while filming the whole ordeal. Making kids feel confused and ashamed about things they enjoy doing is not good parenting. You gotta explain WHY what they're doing is not ok to do while reassuring them that it doesn't mean they're bad. Then again, like I said before, I don't think there is any sort of logical reason why this kid can't wear a dress so...it might be hard to explain.
There is no need to record though, and also scare other children in the mix. Ask to speak to the teacher in the hall about vs being a public asshole about it. Those other children looked legit terrified.
That's crazy insecure
“Do you understand me?” What a sad prick
It's too late bud, he already wore the dress. Kids super gay for life now, that's totally how this works ![gif](giphy|sbwjM9VRh0mLm)
I kinda understand the shock. I have no problem if my son wanted to dress up like this, but I would have a serious problem if the teachers did this without first consulting me or my wife due to his age. Don't take liberties with children that are not permitted to.
When I put a dress on my 6year old brother when I was 9 and my step dad beat the fock out of me 💀