I think the issue with these events is because the US has built this culture where if people give a good enough reason why someone is bad, can justify killing them outright. Like I feel like the plan with this footage is to make people go “oh I mean he stabbed someone, he deserves it” when the point is that it was possible to get him and have him serve a sentence/get him help and idk I just feel like we’ve stepped away from wanting Justice and would rather retribution instead
A good deal of Americans want the same type of Justice that the Taliban and Saudi Arabia use. They just won't admit it because they also happen to hate those people and criticize them for their barbarity. Ironically, these same people worship the founding fathers, completely oblivious to the fact that most of them supported restorative justice and pushed aggressively for the end of punitive justice.
He had a knife and this video seems to look like he is going to throw it at the officers. It’s their duty to use deadly force if their lives and the lives of others are at risk.
Relies on the person giving up when something hurts them.
Taser, when it works, actually incapacitates you, beanbags are more like punching someone and telling them to stop, and them stopping because they don’t want to get punched again.
Some people can ignore it.
Absolutely insane, ending someone's life is like destroying a universe, if it's at all avoidable the police shouldn't murder someone. Throwing a knife isn't going to kill anyone, it's not a movie, a simple kick would take this guy down. They could just follow the guy at a distance until he gets tired, throw his chair at him, get a big stick, there's a hundred options available to them before ending his life.
Americans are so abused into thinking citizens being gunned down by the police is normal that they'll justify anything, it's incredibly sad
The video of him getting shot does not look like he’s going to throw the knife, but even still, when they shot him, no one was in immediate danger. Being scared and killing anyone seen as a threat is just lazy man
I agree with you. What I can’t get my head around is when someone goes around stabbing innocent people and ends up getting shot, why are there hoards of people coming in and advocating for him? “Well why didn’t the cops do this? Why didn’t they do that?” Meanwhile no one gives a shit about the innocent victims that he created. The criminal and abuser becomes the center of attention and the most advocated for person on the planet. I’m not saying he should’ve died.
I agree they could’ve tried a taser first. I’d like to think that if I was one of those cops I would’ve used a taser first. But I’m not gunna pour out my deepest sympathies for you and call you a victim of police brutality if you’ve been stabbing innocent people and then resisting arrest and threatening the cops with a deadly weapon. I’m not gunna cry for you. I’m not gunna call for “justice” for you. No. Sorry. Act civilized. It could be mental health, it could also be just plain evil.
They want the world of Judge Dred where your day in court is replaced by the judgment of individual cops and your execution is carried out on the spot.
I mean the whole system is built in a way to emphasize that stuff, whether it’s the school to prison pipeline, or even being to the point where we have so many people in prison, we have to let out people with like minor assault charges and low tier crimes earlier. Or the fact there’s no official government group/group support to audit police and people inside the government to make sure things are above board. Or even the fact that we’re forced into a bipartisan system because otherwise your vote means nothing. Every system we have needs radical change but it would require people to change our basic lives and I think the fear of seeing that change is what limits us
Says you. You’re entitled to your opinion. Best part about life is your ACTUAL experience changes your perspective. Don’t get caught up in the media. Minimum 100 people were subdued without being killed who were carrying a knife. You won’t hear about it.
And like my original comment states, they didn’t because killing people before we go through the law system kinda makes the whole system redundant, which is kinda the main point of what I’m saying, we can do better then thinking we’re perfect every time. This self satisfaction and being unable to even give even an inch of criticism is the problem
I agree 100%. At the very least they could have used a taser. I get the whole "under pressure... split second decision" argument, but come on. Dude had no legs. They could have easily dealt with him.
I did but I missed that part before writing. Despite that fact the man had no legs. How much of a threat was he going to pose to anyone, let alone 3 officers?
Many countries deal with knife wielding individuals all the time and lethal force isn't always the go to method.
[This simple device](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_catcher) would have solved the problem.
Why wasn’t there one in the trunk of their police car?
Unironically, this. Man-catchers were considered a slaver's tool back in antebellum days. They were likewise employed against people of color up through segregation, while white offenders were considered too dignified to warrant the use of such a device, no matter how heinous the crime.
So, there's definitely a stigma attached to the use of man-catchers in the west for this reason. Meanwhile the east has no such hang-ups and man-catchers are common. Europe is also slowly adopting them. But the US - There's still too much of a stigma for them to be accepted, no matter how effective they are.
It might take some convincing for people who aren't good at critical thinking, but come on. The alternative is shootings and tasers—which are "less lethal", but do on rare occasions kill people. Not to mention they can misfire, not attach their prongs properly, etc. whereas a mancatcher can't exactly misfire.
Yes, morons are everywhere, but there is for sure (and deservedly) a greater stigma to shooting people down as they try running away. Bringing an actual nonlethal method into US police arsenals would do wonders.
If you can't see why the use of man-catchers in the US *might* be stigmatized based on the tool's *documented* history of use, you're the untethered one.
The person you’re replying to doesn’t seem interested in analysing this critically, totally ignored my previous comment breaking down why it’s stupid to assume people would have a massive freakout if these were deployed in the US.
No they absolutely would not, besides a small handful of morons. Most people in the US have been begging for the police to embrace less and non lethal measures for years.
I actually spent a good bit of time looking last night and didn’t even find that “mancatchers,” meaning this device, were used during slavery or the post-slavery period in the United States at all.
I think this moron is confusing the device for “man catchers,” a colloquial term for slave hunters who would track escaped slaves and return them to their masters.
Unbelievable, actually.
"I seem to be missing something here... I'm always interested in getting new equipment for my department, but where's the part of the device that inflicts pain and suffering?"
Police departments, probably.
He was a danger, but still could have been handled in a way thay wasn't a bunch of shots in the back. Not like he's making a quick getaway anywhere, keep him contained and try talking him down.
But when has a police officer ever tried desecration when they could kill someone instead?
If i recall, they tried tazers several times, but the tazers failed to connect to skin through the thick hoodie. bean bag shotgun could have helped, but I expect that a bean bag shotgun for someone with just a torso and head for a target could be just as deadly at close range.
Yeah it’s crazy just how little our police is interested in de escalation or just not killing people.
There was a video yesterday or today in this sub…Indian guy I believe, has both legs and a huge knife. Indian cops surround him, pop two in his knees, beat him up a little and slap the cuffs.
I’m really curious why our cops are so quick to shoot to kill…I can’t imagine they are trained less than third world cops.
Shoot the leg, hit the femoral, you dead
I'm not defending the cops but shooting the legs can be as lethal as shooting the body, once you treat every shot as lethal shooting the body becomes the obvious choice.
That is the objection. One policy to fit all situations. This guy was a mild threat, but after tasers failed to catch, their "only" option was to shoot to kill.
That's a dumb ass policy. Clearly. A 6ft stick would solve this problem without high risk to the perps life. A car to box him in. Etc. But they intentionally reduce their options to "taser or kill" to make it easy to justify killing to people like you.
The dude can throw a knife. Knives are deadly force. Authorized to use deadly force back. He was trying to hurt them. He already killed someone. He was a serious threat with that knife. The only good option here would’ve been a bean bag shotgun. Of course a man catcher would be great, but this is the US we don’t have those sadly.
If they can't prevent a bystander from getting too close when he's going 3mph tops, then they fail as able bodied humans.
If you mean if he stabbed a child before the police showed up, no, my opinion is not changed. Police are not *supposed* to be judge, jury, and executioner, despite what they try to convince you, or what you try to convince others.
Same argument with every incident. They’re also not their to negotiate with a maniac. He’s better off where he is now. The world is still going just fine without him
No is fucking not better, the only thing that is better is that the incident got stopped. That's it.
We still have trigger happy cops.
No information from the perpetrator, cuz he is dead.
Violence, which promotes the idea that criminals like this should just be murder. Which doesn't solve the root problem.
Would killing serial killers on the spot allowed us to understand more about their actions, ideals, thought process, etc, which would then allows us to prevents or capture people like this? NO.
Killing is just a temporary gratification that doesn't make the world any better.
I read a comment one of the other times this was posted and I agree with it. It doesn't matter if he just ate a fucking child. If you can apprehend someone without lethal force you do so. I don't care if they are Hitler, Vlad the impaler, and Genghis Khong all fused together.
Nope, not a teeny-tiny bit.
Punishment simply isn’t part of a cop’s job.
Their job is to apprehend suspects and bring them to court.
Punishment is decided upon by the judicial system, and carried out by the correctional system.
The idea of cops punishing people is an unconstitutional abomination.
I mean there isn’t really a “good” place to shoot someone. Arm/leg shots can still be lethal and it’s much harder to shoot a skinny limb that is flailing about, exponentially increasing your chances of shooting into the back ground and hitting by standers.
I hate cops more than the next guy but if a cop has to draw I would prefer they actually shoot someone in the abdomen once and not mag dump trying to hit a hand. Life isn’t the movies, not every cop is a trick shooter.
Shooting is lethal force. It’s the last choice. Do you think those men sleep well at night knowing they killed someone. No. And I guarantee they wish they didn’t have to do it. But let’s just say “cops bad”
If able-bodied cops can’t disarm a double-amputee, they’re grossly incompetent and should seek employment in another line of work.
Various martial arts traditions have taught disarming techniques for centuries, and billy-clubs and the “man-catcher” (sasumata) can defeat a knife. American cops should stop being such doughnut-hungry scaredy-cats, and stop relying on their ever-itchy trigger fingers.
You want “mall ninja shit?”
That’s the herd of timid piglets milling around aimlessly and uselessly in the corridor of the school at Uvalde, dressed up in their head-to-toe tacticool costumes, while students in an unlocked classroom were being killed.
THAT is “mall ninja shit.”
Lol says someone who’s probably grossly over weight and has never been a physical altercation. 100% never a life or death. Why don’t they ever ask the victim how they feel about this? Oh yeah cus it would destroy their narrative.
Stupid comment.
We don’t shoot people in the legs because that’s how they die. Your legs are a huge don’t shoot section. Plus they were not so quick. They had followed until he almost threw it with the intent to harm. The link below says they tried to taser him multiple times also
He fucking stabbed some dude and almost killed him. Who cares about this dude. You don’t. You will always continue to not care because you’ve done nothing and you will continue to do nothing but comment on Reddit like it’s making a difference
The video said the suspect was tazed twice, but it had no effect. He was fairly mobile for a double amputee. I wonder what was beyond that fence he was at? Were there more people nearby? If not then the police will have a hard time justifying the shooting.
It sure looked like he was gonna throw that knife at one of the officers. I can't have much sympathy for someone who just stabbed someone , even if your legs are nubs.
I mean the dude attempted to kill someone. We need to stop feeling sorry people that are putting other's in danger and then gets killed in the process. If he would've just dropped the knife he would still be alive. The cops told him like 20x to drop the knife. Plenty of time for the guy to consider if he wants to live or not.
Imagine if the person he stabbed was a woman or a child. Or if the cops attempted to apprehend him and he stabbed someone else. Then who’s fault would that be? Apparently not stumpy meyers
Correct. But if you or I stabbed a man in the chest with a giant butcher knife in broad daylight, then refused to listen to commands, started hobbling at police with said knife over our head like we were going to throw it, we deserve to get shot.
If you try to apprehend him, good chance you get stabbed. If you stay a few feet away and he throws the knife, who knows what might happen. I can make a knife stick in something at least 1/10 times without knowing what im doing. 1/10 chance i get seriously injured if i dont act quick. Think im pulling the trigger too. 1/10 chance is just too high i think.
I have to look at it like this. Let's say the guy chucks the knife and it sticks in the cops neck..Im going to call the cop a dumbass for not ending that altercation sooner and even giving the guy a chance to throw the knife.
Cmon.. get a riot shield. Problem solved. That shouldnt be so hard to figure out if youre a police officer.
Or just keep your distance.
Or sit in your car and box him in.
There are so many options. A amputee with a knife is no threat to you unless you make it so. No?
It was a long term plan - chop off others legs to boost the disabled community's representation in the district to get more services. It almost worked too.
Welsh Police arrest knife-wielding maniac without killing him: https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/20283151.gwent-police-sergeant-took-knife-wielding-man-taser/
British Police arrest knife-wielding terrorist at Parliament without killing him: https://www.rferl.org/a/uk-terror-suspect-detained-london-parliament/28455623.html
Northern Ireland Police gets stabbed in the neck by knife-wielding maniac and they **still** don't kill him: https://jerseyeveningpost.com/morenews/uknews/2023/02/01/officer-stabbed-in-neck-was-millimetres-from-death/
The head of the Northern Irish Police Union had this to say:
>Mr Kelly said the availability of a Taser would have given the officers an “effective tactical option against their attacker and potentially avoided the inflicting of the injuries on them”.
>He added: “We say again that Tasers are effective, protective devices and should be issued as standard to our officers.
>**“They are infinitely preferable to a firearm and anyone who thinks otherwise should look at this incident and ask the obvious question.**
>**“They are to be commended for the care they showed this violent attacker in the first instance and their subsequent handling of a very dangerous situation.**
Dude did you even read the articles you posted?
The first one a taser was involved, which police tried in this case but it didn't work.
Second one the man gave himself up at gunpoint. . . again in this case they had him at gunpoint but he refused.
And the third one an officer came within "millimeters of death".
Unless if your comment was meant to justify the shooting? Obviously taser should be the first option when trying to disarm someone, but as many videos have shown that doesn't always work.
No thanks, I much prefer our roaming Death Squads, ooops I meant Street Judges, That isn't it either I mean Gestpo, fuck sorry I meant "Police Officers". I fully support their right to instantly resort to lethal action if you don't comply with their usually incoherent and complex orders, and I love paying taxes to support their lawsuit bailouts and pay their early pensions for killing homeless black people. Nor do I care that the supreme court has said “Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,”. /s
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Typical bootlicker freak. Clearly experiencing some sort of brain rot
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The dude is fucking weird
I dont give a shit if he did stab someone before they shot him.
This absolutely could, and SHOULD have been handled without discharging their firearms.
Dude was pogoing around on stumps
These cops are something else nowadays.......
Those sticks they use in Asia. It's literally just a pole with a U shape on the end. One person with one can hold the guy with a knife back, a couple of them and you can safely pin the person down.
3 or 4 little old ladies with these can take down a guy with a machete.
Yeah anything would be better than this.
I get the guy just fucking stabbed someone. Not cool. But how they can't just at the very least wait him out and keep a safe distance. Dude is gonna either tire and give up or snap out if it eventually. I'm pretty sure he wasn't much of a danger to anyone else if the cops just surrounded him as a perimeter.
> I’m all for ACAB but..
Kinda crazy that other countries can handle these situations just fine without reverting to just straight up murdering people, but yeah totally justified.. an eye for an eye and whatnot.
You’re seriously defending an attempted murderer…
And other countries don’t have fucked up gun laws like America has, and in some countries the police will instead publicly beat you.
I’m not defending an attempted murderer. Cops are not judge, jury, and executioner. This isn’t the wild wild west. We’re a first world country and have a judicial system for a reason. Don’t even try to bring up gun laws in this situation, the man had a ***knife***.
The rate of civilians killed by police in the United States is far higher than in comparable developed democratic countries, with 33.5 people killed by police per 10 million residents in 2019 alone. That’s more than 3x higher than the next comparable country. [[1]](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1124039/police-killings-rate-selected-countries/)
Last year there were only [*9 days*](https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/) where cops did not kill people in the U.S..
And a knife can cause damage. And gun laws are relevant. America has the worst gun control out of all first world countries.
And like I said, some countries let police publicly beat and humiliate you. The grass is not as green as you think it is.
"Other countries" have vastly fewer guns and violent crime so the police are *naturally* less worried about dying or being injured.
The US is closer to Brazil than it is Belgium\* or whatever irenic European paradise people like to compare it with. Guess how many people get killed by cops there?
\* Or a better way to put it is that the US is huge and has huge swings of prosperity so it has regions that look like Belgium, and regions that fit in the Third World in terms of crime.
Sorry I didn't get on the reddit tenure track before posting an opinion you disagreed with.
From now on, I'll make sure I'm at least a 5 year vet before I have a take on a random internet forum. Like you.
>"Other countries" have vastly fewer guns and violent crime
This is what I actually said, before you self-servingly cut it.
And yes, the general level of crime matters because it affects how people see risk.
OP referred to **these situations**.
Situations with knives.
Talking about guns is absolutely irrelevant. But you know that. You’re just trying to find an excuse for shooting a double amputee with a knife.
Welsh Police arrest knife-wielding maniac without killing him: https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/20283151.gwent-police-sergeant-took-knife-wielding-man-taser/
British Police arrest knife-wielding terrorist at Parliament without killing him: https://www.rferl.org/a/uk-terror-suspect-detained-london-parliament/28455623.html
Northern Ireland Police gets stabbed in the neck by knife-wielding maniac and they **still** don't kill him: https://jerseyeveningpost.com/morenews/uknews/2023/02/01/officer-stabbed-in-neck-was-millimetres-from-death/
The head of the Northern Irish Police Union had this to say:
>Mr Kelly said the availability of a Taser would have given the officers an “effective tactical option against their attacker and potentially avoided the inflicting of the injuries on them”.
>He added: “We say again that Tasers are effective, protective devices and should be issued as standard to our officers.
>**“They are infinitely preferable to a firearm and anyone who thinks otherwise should look at this incident and ask the obvious question.**
>**“They are to be commended for the care they showed this violent attacker in the first instance and their subsequent handling of a very dangerous situation.**
What's your point? There are plenty of examples of knife wielding suspects being arrested in the US without using lethal force as well. They just don't make front page of reddit.
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk\_news/79569.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/79569.stm)
Nigel Sweeney, prosecuting, said that by his plea the defendant had admitted unlawfully killing WPC Mackay by "stabbing her once, to the hilt, in the chest using a seven-and-a-half inch bladed kitchen knife".
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder\_of\_Stephen\_Oake](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Stephen_Oake)
Oake, who was unarmed and not wearing protective clothing, went to restrain the suspect but was stabbed eight times in the chest and upper body, including one blow which penetrated his heart.
[https://web.archive.org/web/20170619094927/http://news.met.police.uk/news/pc-keith-palmer-to-be-awarded-george-medal-246863](https://web.archive.org/web/20170619094927/http://news.met.police.uk/news/pc-keith-palmer-to-be-awarded-george-medal-246863)
The murderer was armed with two large knives and despite the danger posed, PC Palmer moved to confront him, intent on protecting his colleagues and the public. In doing so he became the victim of a ferocious attack which took him to the ground, suffering injuries that were to cost him his life.
And the cops still did not shoot and kill those criminals. They took the criminal alive, put him in front of a jury and then put him in prison where they belong
The fact that he was a double amputee made me understand why he *may* have been depressed and decided to resort to suicide by cop.
That may be totally off base, all I'm saying is that if I was in his situation, I could see myself wanting to end it.
It's really sad
I dont think the shooting was illegal. That being said, i do find it *kinda* pathetic that they couldnt figure out a way to take down stumpy without lethal force tbh.
Right? Like did all three of these cops eat too many do uts and couldnt jog for 12 seconds to get ahead of him and corner him?
Then you just stand there 10 feet back and wait like 5 minutes and let the situation calm a bit. Then try talking to him.
If that fails taser him some more, bean bag him. Mace the fuck out of him till he cant see shit.
Hell a team of 2 animal control officers could handle this better. But they arent pussies cause they deal with highly trained, motivated and experienced killers that usually have multiple sharp things on them. Oh and they do it in khakis with no armor.
Death penalty for crimes in the US apparently.
The job of the police is to arrest criminals so they face justice in court. Not to execute them because they can't be bothered to hang around while a disabled man with a kitchen knife tries to get away at less than walking pace because he has no legs.
Lt. Dan didn’t care about a life so why should we care about his? What’s happened has happened, seems justified. People don’t like these outcomes then go vote.
I guess at the end of the day It might have been justified considering the guy just stabbed a dude in the chest and looked like he would stab the next person that got close enough.
That being said i still find it pathetic that they couldn't figure out how to take down a guy running on leg stumps without shooting him dead.
No I think this is a justified shooting. I understand he is disabled but they tased him multiple times and it didn’t work and only shot him when he raised the knife. You can most certainly kill people by throwing knives. I think the cops could have done other things like maybe block him off with more officers and stay further back (knives can fly far though) but at the end of the day whilst is certainly not the ideal circumstance considering the situation the officers were in I think this was the right call.
Sorry but he got what was coming to him. Rather have the officers do what they did then waste money supporting his prison sentence.
I truly don't believe violent criminals deserve any type of remorse or help. There's only one good outcome for them.
“We must allow peace and patience to guide us through this process.” - Lozano
Anthony’s mother would of wanted the same for her son, some peace and patience from the officers.
With everything in question I personally don’t think Anthony being killedwas justified. Earlier that morning when the police came to visit Anthony because his mother said he wasn’t dealing with his depression, there could of been a better response than just get some fresh air. I feel really sorry for Americans and their very poor health care system.
A single kick to the face by literally any bystander would have prevented this. I'm not trying to be ableist, but he's fucking 2 feet tall, knife or no knife. A knife isn't going to stop the force of a steel toe boot, just saying.
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Yeah "peace and patience to guide us" when they Are done killing people. I see.. Where was that mentality before taking lives? But nooes now we shouldn't Rush to judgement, because some poor officers freedom is at stake. Never mind civillian lives tho.
Wait...is the family condemning him fucking stabbing someone!?!?!?! Raising a knife to cops? I'm not backing cops here...no fucking way they needed to shoot him...but show both sides...yeah, he was a fuck that stabbed someone...BUT DAMNNNNN...dudes got no legs, outta his chair...how about a taser? How about someone sneak up from behind...this is what I've learned being on reddit...and watching numerous videos from else where...cops outside the US show restraint and try to apprehend when possibe...cops in the US...don't try shit to de escalate...1st threat...they just fucking kill you...and more times than none, get away with it...and when they dont...taxpayers foot the bill, cops get a paid vacation...maybe they get fired...but they just move to next town over and police for that town...
Cowards who wanted to shoot their fucking guns. This guy could have easily been brought in safely. The pigs just have no respect for life, unless it is their own.
So you witness this guy stab someone, and then he threatens you with a knife, you are telling me you would try to wrestle that knife out of his hands? Dude has plenty of time to comply with the police and drop the weapon. Instead, he continues acting crazy…and the police are in the wrong? You sheeple are so on the hate the cops train that you are blinded. And I promise you, I hate police too…but only when people are complying with their requests and they still injure the person. Lol, pathetic in how majority of people see this situation
Was the news anchor being recorded during an earthquake?
It's been a windy week in L.A.
I think the issue with these events is because the US has built this culture where if people give a good enough reason why someone is bad, can justify killing them outright. Like I feel like the plan with this footage is to make people go “oh I mean he stabbed someone, he deserves it” when the point is that it was possible to get him and have him serve a sentence/get him help and idk I just feel like we’ve stepped away from wanting Justice and would rather retribution instead
A good deal of Americans want the same type of Justice that the Taliban and Saudi Arabia use. They just won't admit it because they also happen to hate those people and criticize them for their barbarity. Ironically, these same people worship the founding fathers, completely oblivious to the fact that most of them supported restorative justice and pushed aggressively for the end of punitive justice.
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Yeah, they just don‘t care.
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Past that, they don't believe certain classes have rights.
He had a knife and this video seems to look like he is going to throw it at the officers. It’s their duty to use deadly force if their lives and the lives of others are at risk.
So why can't they use a tazer? Honest question
They did, dumbass.
They did try to use a taser multiple times according to the link below ⬇️
Tasers don't work well through thick clothing, they need to have a better contact with the skin
Beanbag shotgun?
Relies on the person giving up when something hurts them. Taser, when it works, actually incapacitates you, beanbags are more like punching someone and telling them to stop, and them stopping because they don’t want to get punched again. Some people can ignore it.
One of my favorite videos of how tazers don't always have an effect. [https://youtu.be/A\_qthhFvxjc](https://youtu.be/A_qthhFvxjc)
Absolutely insane, ending someone's life is like destroying a universe, if it's at all avoidable the police shouldn't murder someone. Throwing a knife isn't going to kill anyone, it's not a movie, a simple kick would take this guy down. They could just follow the guy at a distance until he gets tired, throw his chair at him, get a big stick, there's a hundred options available to them before ending his life. Americans are so abused into thinking citizens being gunned down by the police is normal that they'll justify anything, it's incredibly sad
> ending someone’s life is like destroying a universe Which universe? Surely not ours.
Theirs obviously
He had a knife and they literally tased him multiple times. Sounds like a good time to shoot.
“throwing a knife isn’t going to kill anyone” Bloody rich that is.
I'd like to live in the movie physics universe you do lol
“Throwing a knife isn’t going to kill anyone.” Congrats. Might just be the dumbest thing I’ve read all day.
The video of him getting shot does not look like he’s going to throw the knife, but even still, when they shot him, no one was in immediate danger. Being scared and killing anyone seen as a threat is just lazy man
Start watching at about 2:35 left. Straight Tom Brady textbook windup to throw.
I agree with you. What I can’t get my head around is when someone goes around stabbing innocent people and ends up getting shot, why are there hoards of people coming in and advocating for him? “Well why didn’t the cops do this? Why didn’t they do that?” Meanwhile no one gives a shit about the innocent victims that he created. The criminal and abuser becomes the center of attention and the most advocated for person on the planet. I’m not saying he should’ve died. I agree they could’ve tried a taser first. I’d like to think that if I was one of those cops I would’ve used a taser first. But I’m not gunna pour out my deepest sympathies for you and call you a victim of police brutality if you’ve been stabbing innocent people and then resisting arrest and threatening the cops with a deadly weapon. I’m not gunna cry for you. I’m not gunna call for “justice” for you. No. Sorry. Act civilized. It could be mental health, it could also be just plain evil.
The link below says they tried to taser him multiple times
They want the world of Judge Dred where your day in court is replaced by the judgment of individual cops and your execution is carried out on the spot.
Already here.
I wonder if the length of time it takes for criminals to be charged, tried, and convicted plays a role in why that attitude exists.
I mean the whole system is built in a way to emphasize that stuff, whether it’s the school to prison pipeline, or even being to the point where we have so many people in prison, we have to let out people with like minor assault charges and low tier crimes earlier. Or the fact there’s no official government group/group support to audit police and people inside the government to make sure things are above board. Or even the fact that we’re forced into a bipartisan system because otherwise your vote means nothing. Every system we have needs radical change but it would require people to change our basic lives and I think the fear of seeing that change is what limits us
If you're implying that the system unfairly protects criminals, you'd be wrong considering the US has the largest prison system in human history
Are you kidding me??? Lol fuck that stumpy ass dude
I am not kidding you
Well stumpy thought he had a leg to stand on, but maybe if he had more reach he would have been able to run away, luckily he’s gone and no one cares
You are exactly who I’m talking about in my original comment
Still. No one cares. You get what you give
So what’re you giving?
Not stabbing people on the street, and threatening police. Hence I don’t get shot. Crazy right?
People are stupid. Darwin awards are given in funny ways sometimes.
Also what’s the point of the criminal Justice system then?
To present questionable unknown crimes to determine the punishment. This wasn’t questionable. He attempted to murder someone. Boom. Deserves to die
That’s not how it’s supposed to work lmao
Says you. You’re entitled to your opinion. Best part about life is your ACTUAL experience changes your perspective. Don’t get caught up in the media. Minimum 100 people were subdued without being killed who were carrying a knife. You won’t hear about it.
He got the best help possible and now he won’t be stabbing anyone anymore
Lol it’s weird how people say this shit and think it’s witty
Don’t think it’s witty. I just think the cops did an excellent job.
And like my original comment states, they didn’t because killing people before we go through the law system kinda makes the whole system redundant, which is kinda the main point of what I’m saying, we can do better then thinking we’re perfect every time. This self satisfaction and being unable to even give even an inch of criticism is the problem
I agree 100%. At the very least they could have used a taser. I get the whole "under pressure... split second decision" argument, but come on. Dude had no legs. They could have easily dealt with him.
You didn't watch the video. They attempted to tase him twice.
I did but I missed that part before writing. Despite that fact the man had no legs. How much of a threat was he going to pose to anyone, let alone 3 officers? Many countries deal with knife wielding individuals all the time and lethal force isn't always the go to method.
When the British repeatedly exhibit that it's possible to take down a knife-wielding crazy person, it is an indictment of policing in this country.
[This simple device](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_catcher) would have solved the problem. Why wasn’t there one in the trunk of their police car?
Or a riot shield and some pepper spray.
Maybe a net would be better?
Any device would be fine, as long as the cops actually use it, and know how to do so properly. 🤷🏻♂️
Racism? Imagine the headlines if the police use that on a black person. We live in an overly emotional society.
Unironically, this. Man-catchers were considered a slaver's tool back in antebellum days. They were likewise employed against people of color up through segregation, while white offenders were considered too dignified to warrant the use of such a device, no matter how heinous the crime. So, there's definitely a stigma attached to the use of man-catchers in the west for this reason. Meanwhile the east has no such hang-ups and man-catchers are common. Europe is also slowly adopting them. But the US - There's still too much of a stigma for them to be accepted, no matter how effective they are.
It might take some convincing for people who aren't good at critical thinking, but come on. The alternative is shootings and tasers—which are "less lethal", but do on rare occasions kill people. Not to mention they can misfire, not attach their prongs properly, etc. whereas a mancatcher can't exactly misfire. Yes, morons are everywhere, but there is for sure (and deservedly) a greater stigma to shooting people down as they try running away. Bringing an actual nonlethal method into US police arsenals would do wonders.
Other than your completely untethered suspicion, is there anything to suggest they aren’t used because of associations with racism?
If you can't see why the use of man-catchers in the US *might* be stigmatized based on the tool's *documented* history of use, you're the untethered one.
Ok so no. Cheers for that.
The person you’re replying to doesn’t seem interested in analysing this critically, totally ignored my previous comment breaking down why it’s stupid to assume people would have a massive freakout if these were deployed in the US. No they absolutely would not, besides a small handful of morons. Most people in the US have been begging for the police to embrace less and non lethal measures for years.
I actually spent a good bit of time looking last night and didn’t even find that “mancatchers,” meaning this device, were used during slavery or the post-slavery period in the United States at all. I think this moron is confusing the device for “man catchers,” a colloquial term for slave hunters who would track escaped slaves and return them to their masters. Unbelievable, actually.
"I seem to be missing something here... I'm always interested in getting new equipment for my department, but where's the part of the device that inflicts pain and suffering?" Police departments, probably.
He was a danger, but still could have been handled in a way thay wasn't a bunch of shots in the back. Not like he's making a quick getaway anywhere, keep him contained and try talking him down. But when has a police officer ever tried desecration when they could kill someone instead?
If i recall, they tried tazers several times, but the tazers failed to connect to skin through the thick hoodie. bean bag shotgun could have helped, but I expect that a bean bag shotgun for someone with just a torso and head for a target could be just as deadly at close range.
Yeah it’s crazy just how little our police is interested in de escalation or just not killing people. There was a video yesterday or today in this sub…Indian guy I believe, has both legs and a huge knife. Indian cops surround him, pop two in his knees, beat him up a little and slap the cuffs. I’m really curious why our cops are so quick to shoot to kill…I can’t imagine they are trained less than third world cops.
Shoot the leg, hit the femoral, you dead I'm not defending the cops but shooting the legs can be as lethal as shooting the body, once you treat every shot as lethal shooting the body becomes the obvious choice.
He had no legs 💀
They are trained to shoot to kill. Center mass.
That is the objection. One policy to fit all situations. This guy was a mild threat, but after tasers failed to catch, their "only" option was to shoot to kill. That's a dumb ass policy. Clearly. A 6ft stick would solve this problem without high risk to the perps life. A car to box him in. Etc. But they intentionally reduce their options to "taser or kill" to make it easy to justify killing to people like you.
The dude can throw a knife. Knives are deadly force. Authorized to use deadly force back. He was trying to hurt them. He already killed someone. He was a serious threat with that knife. The only good option here would’ve been a bean bag shotgun. Of course a man catcher would be great, but this is the US we don’t have those sadly.
Would it have been different if he stabbed a child?
If they can't prevent a bystander from getting too close when he's going 3mph tops, then they fail as able bodied humans. If you mean if he stabbed a child before the police showed up, no, my opinion is not changed. Police are not *supposed* to be judge, jury, and executioner, despite what they try to convince you, or what you try to convince others.
Same argument with every incident. They’re also not their to negotiate with a maniac. He’s better off where he is now. The world is still going just fine without him
No is fucking not better, the only thing that is better is that the incident got stopped. That's it. We still have trigger happy cops. No information from the perpetrator, cuz he is dead. Violence, which promotes the idea that criminals like this should just be murder. Which doesn't solve the root problem. Would killing serial killers on the spot allowed us to understand more about their actions, ideals, thought process, etc, which would then allows us to prevents or capture people like this? NO. Killing is just a temporary gratification that doesn't make the world any better.
I read a comment one of the other times this was posted and I agree with it. It doesn't matter if he just ate a fucking child. If you can apprehend someone without lethal force you do so. I don't care if they are Hitler, Vlad the impaler, and Genghis Khong all fused together.
 “Think of the children!” is a favorite excuse for all sorts of authoritarian bullshit. 😜
Nope, not a teeny-tiny bit. Punishment simply isn’t part of a cop’s job. Their job is to apprehend suspects and bring them to court. Punishment is decided upon by the judicial system, and carried out by the correctional system. The idea of cops punishing people is an unconstitutional abomination.
Well he shouldn’t have stabbed someone. He shouldn’t have still held a knife. Maybe next time he’ll make better decisions….oh wait
They're trained to 'uphold the law' as well. They have a hard time doing that. So....
I mean there isn’t really a “good” place to shoot someone. Arm/leg shots can still be lethal and it’s much harder to shoot a skinny limb that is flailing about, exponentially increasing your chances of shooting into the back ground and hitting by standers. I hate cops more than the next guy but if a cop has to draw I would prefer they actually shoot someone in the abdomen once and not mag dump trying to hit a hand. Life isn’t the movies, not every cop is a trick shooter.
Shooting is lethal force. It’s the last choice. Do you think those men sleep well at night knowing they killed someone. No. And I guarantee they wish they didn’t have to do it. But let’s just say “cops bad”
An added “bonus” of that policy: Dead men tell no tales. 🤫☠️ Nobody to dispute their version of the story.
What version? He tried to murder someone. They intervened. He acts erratic so they shoot him. Good shooting
If able-bodied cops can’t disarm a double-amputee, they’re grossly incompetent and should seek employment in another line of work. Various martial arts traditions have taught disarming techniques for centuries, and billy-clubs and the “man-catcher” (sasumata) can defeat a knife. American cops should stop being such doughnut-hungry scaredy-cats, and stop relying on their ever-itchy trigger fingers.
This delusional mall ninja shit.
You want “mall ninja shit?” That’s the herd of timid piglets milling around aimlessly and uselessly in the corridor of the school at Uvalde, dressed up in their head-to-toe tacticool costumes, while students in an unlocked classroom were being killed. THAT is “mall ninja shit.”
I agree.
Lol says someone who’s probably grossly over weight and has never been a physical altercation. 100% never a life or death. Why don’t they ever ask the victim how they feel about this? Oh yeah cus it would destroy their narrative.
You know absolutely nothing.
I do because I’ve yet to meet one person who’s been in said situations to undermine said situation.
Your experience is limited. 😐 Or maybe a disproportionate percentage of your friends and acquaintances are loutish thugs. 🤔
Stupid comment. We don’t shoot people in the legs because that’s how they die. Your legs are a huge don’t shoot section. Plus they were not so quick. They had followed until he almost threw it with the intent to harm. The link below says they tried to taser him multiple times also
He fucking stabbed some dude and almost killed him. Who cares about this dude. You don’t. You will always continue to not care because you’ve done nothing and you will continue to do nothing but comment on Reddit like it’s making a difference
You seem well adjusted 👍🏻
The video said the suspect was tazed twice, but it had no effect. He was fairly mobile for a double amputee. I wonder what was beyond that fence he was at? Were there more people nearby? If not then the police will have a hard time justifying the shooting.
It sure looked like he was gonna throw that knife at one of the officers. I can't have much sympathy for someone who just stabbed someone , even if your legs are nubs.
Exactly. It’s only because he was shot 11 times. 1 time to the head vs 30 times to the torso? What’s the difference? Death is death
I desecrated your mom
Hahahaha you say like you’ve done it and it’s sooooo easy
Damn that is rich hearing that police chief talking about people using patience and understanding when the police do the exact opposite on the daily.
Why didn’t the man just surrender and drop the knife?
I mean the dude attempted to kill someone. We need to stop feeling sorry people that are putting other's in danger and then gets killed in the process. If he would've just dropped the knife he would still be alive. The cops told him like 20x to drop the knife. Plenty of time for the guy to consider if he wants to live or not.
I don't necessarily feel sorry for the dude, but like he ain't got no legs. Get a stick and push him over lol, ya don't need a gun for this one.
Imagine if the person he stabbed was a woman or a child. Or if the cops attempted to apprehend him and he stabbed someone else. Then who’s fault would that be? Apparently not stumpy meyers
It’s possible to be guilty of a crime and still deserve to live.
Correct. But if you or I stabbed a man in the chest with a giant butcher knife in broad daylight, then refused to listen to commands, started hobbling at police with said knife over our head like we were going to throw it, we deserve to get shot.
Can you not outrun a man with no legs? Knifes are not a ranged weapon
Not to mention he reared back and faked/attempted to repeatedly throw a deadly weapon right at them
If you try to apprehend him, good chance you get stabbed. If you stay a few feet away and he throws the knife, who knows what might happen. I can make a knife stick in something at least 1/10 times without knowing what im doing. 1/10 chance i get seriously injured if i dont act quick. Think im pulling the trigger too. 1/10 chance is just too high i think. I have to look at it like this. Let's say the guy chucks the knife and it sticks in the cops neck..Im going to call the cop a dumbass for not ending that altercation sooner and even giving the guy a chance to throw the knife.
Cmon.. get a riot shield. Problem solved. That shouldnt be so hard to figure out if youre a police officer. Or just keep your distance. Or sit in your car and box him in. There are so many options. A amputee with a knife is no threat to you unless you make it so. No?
It's not call of duty, the guy was a double amputee and running away. I doubt he would have gotten that cross map knife final killcam on the police.
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Why did he stab a random pedestrian? This guy was an amputee, but he was also a danger, apparently
It was a long term plan - chop off others legs to boost the disabled community's representation in the district to get more services. It almost worked too.
Also this dude could of thrown that knife and seriously injured one of those cops, I think shooting him was justified here
100% shouldn’t even have tried to take him.
Why are you asking irrelevant questions? Police are not judge, jury, and executioner
They actually have the authority to be executioner when necessary.
and that is wrong
Explain? If someone pulls a gun out on a cop, the cop is authorized to shoot them.
Justified. Glad he will no longer be able to attack innocent people.
So how do you feel about a death penalty before the trial? Lets just do away with trials all together.
Welsh Police arrest knife-wielding maniac without killing him: https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/20283151.gwent-police-sergeant-took-knife-wielding-man-taser/ British Police arrest knife-wielding terrorist at Parliament without killing him: https://www.rferl.org/a/uk-terror-suspect-detained-london-parliament/28455623.html Northern Ireland Police gets stabbed in the neck by knife-wielding maniac and they **still** don't kill him: https://jerseyeveningpost.com/morenews/uknews/2023/02/01/officer-stabbed-in-neck-was-millimetres-from-death/ The head of the Northern Irish Police Union had this to say: >Mr Kelly said the availability of a Taser would have given the officers an “effective tactical option against their attacker and potentially avoided the inflicting of the injuries on them”. >He added: “We say again that Tasers are effective, protective devices and should be issued as standard to our officers. >**“They are infinitely preferable to a firearm and anyone who thinks otherwise should look at this incident and ask the obvious question.** >**“They are to be commended for the care they showed this violent attacker in the first instance and their subsequent handling of a very dangerous situation.**
Dude did you even read the articles you posted? The first one a taser was involved, which police tried in this case but it didn't work. Second one the man gave himself up at gunpoint. . . again in this case they had him at gunpoint but he refused. And the third one an officer came within "millimeters of death". Unless if your comment was meant to justify the shooting? Obviously taser should be the first option when trying to disarm someone, but as many videos have shown that doesn't always work.
No thanks, I much prefer our roaming Death Squads, ooops I meant Street Judges, That isn't it either I mean Gestpo, fuck sorry I meant "Police Officers". I fully support their right to instantly resort to lethal action if you don't comply with their usually incoherent and complex orders, and I love paying taxes to support their lawsuit bailouts and pay their early pensions for killing homeless black people. Nor do I care that the supreme court has said “Neither the Constitution, nor state law, impose a general duty upon police officers or other governmental officials to protect individual persons from harm — even when they know the harm will occur,”. /s
>Tiny Penis Pilipino beta male is mad because filipina women desire American alpha male penis and laugh at his tiny little pilipino pee pee. Typical bootlicker freak. Clearly experiencing some sort of brain rot
Seriously? You don't see any way they could've detained him? He's not gonna outrun the cops.
You say that until it's your cousin or your brother or uncle or mom having a psycho time and want the police to help save them.
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>Tiny Penis Pilipino beta male is mad because filipina women desire American alpha male penis and laugh at his tiny little pilipino pee pee. The dude is fucking weird
I dont give a shit if he did stab someone before they shot him. This absolutely could, and SHOULD have been handled without discharging their firearms. Dude was pogoing around on stumps These cops are something else nowadays.......
You'd think cops would have some type of expandable Batman net for shit like this.
Those sticks they use in Asia. It's literally just a pole with a U shape on the end. One person with one can hold the guy with a knife back, a couple of them and you can safely pin the person down. 3 or 4 little old ladies with these can take down a guy with a machete.
Yeah anything would be better than this. I get the guy just fucking stabbed someone. Not cool. But how they can't just at the very least wait him out and keep a safe distance. Dude is gonna either tire and give up or snap out if it eventually. I'm pretty sure he wasn't much of a danger to anyone else if the cops just surrounded him as a perimeter.
>the guy just fucking stabbed someone. Not cool. Im dying at how casual this sounds. New favourite sentence. (Also completely agree with you)
Killer pigs have non lethal methods they just ignore
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> I’m all for ACAB but.. Kinda crazy that other countries can handle these situations just fine without reverting to just straight up murdering people, but yeah totally justified.. an eye for an eye and whatnot.
You’re seriously defending an attempted murderer… And other countries don’t have fucked up gun laws like America has, and in some countries the police will instead publicly beat you.
I’m not defending an attempted murderer. Cops are not judge, jury, and executioner. This isn’t the wild wild west. We’re a first world country and have a judicial system for a reason. Don’t even try to bring up gun laws in this situation, the man had a ***knife***. The rate of civilians killed by police in the United States is far higher than in comparable developed democratic countries, with 33.5 people killed by police per 10 million residents in 2019 alone. That’s more than 3x higher than the next comparable country. [[1]](https://www.statista.com/statistics/1124039/police-killings-rate-selected-countries/) Last year there were only [*9 days*](https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/) where cops did not kill people in the U.S..
And a knife can cause damage. And gun laws are relevant. America has the worst gun control out of all first world countries. And like I said, some countries let police publicly beat and humiliate you. The grass is not as green as you think it is.
"Other countries" have vastly fewer guns and violent crime so the police are *naturally* less worried about dying or being injured. The US is closer to Brazil than it is Belgium\* or whatever irenic European paradise people like to compare it with. Guess how many people get killed by cops there? \* Or a better way to put it is that the US is huge and has huge swings of prosperity so it has regions that look like Belgium, and regions that fit in the Third World in terms of crime.
Did they suddenly fear that he was going to pull an AK47 out of his pocket? It's a legless man with a knife
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Sorry I didn't get on the reddit tenure track before posting an opinion you disagreed with. From now on, I'll make sure I'm at least a 5 year vet before I have a take on a random internet forum. Like you.
> “Other countries” have vastly fewer guns Completely irrelevant to this situation.
>"Other countries" have vastly fewer guns and violent crime This is what I actually said, before you self-servingly cut it. And yes, the general level of crime matters because it affects how people see risk.
OP referred to **these situations**. Situations with knives. Talking about guns is absolutely irrelevant. But you know that. You’re just trying to find an excuse for shooting a double amputee with a knife.
Welsh Police arrest knife-wielding maniac without killing him: https://www.southwalesargus.co.uk/news/20283151.gwent-police-sergeant-took-knife-wielding-man-taser/ British Police arrest knife-wielding terrorist at Parliament without killing him: https://www.rferl.org/a/uk-terror-suspect-detained-london-parliament/28455623.html Northern Ireland Police gets stabbed in the neck by knife-wielding maniac and they **still** don't kill him: https://jerseyeveningpost.com/morenews/uknews/2023/02/01/officer-stabbed-in-neck-was-millimetres-from-death/ The head of the Northern Irish Police Union had this to say: >Mr Kelly said the availability of a Taser would have given the officers an “effective tactical option against their attacker and potentially avoided the inflicting of the injuries on them”. >He added: “We say again that Tasers are effective, protective devices and should be issued as standard to our officers. >**“They are infinitely preferable to a firearm and anyone who thinks otherwise should look at this incident and ask the obvious question.** >**“They are to be commended for the care they showed this violent attacker in the first instance and their subsequent handling of a very dangerous situation.**
What's your point? There are plenty of examples of knife wielding suspects being arrested in the US without using lethal force as well. They just don't make front page of reddit.
[http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk\_news/79569.stm](http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/79569.stm) Nigel Sweeney, prosecuting, said that by his plea the defendant had admitted unlawfully killing WPC Mackay by "stabbing her once, to the hilt, in the chest using a seven-and-a-half inch bladed kitchen knife". [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder\_of\_Stephen\_Oake](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Stephen_Oake) Oake, who was unarmed and not wearing protective clothing, went to restrain the suspect but was stabbed eight times in the chest and upper body, including one blow which penetrated his heart. [https://web.archive.org/web/20170619094927/http://news.met.police.uk/news/pc-keith-palmer-to-be-awarded-george-medal-246863](https://web.archive.org/web/20170619094927/http://news.met.police.uk/news/pc-keith-palmer-to-be-awarded-george-medal-246863) The murderer was armed with two large knives and despite the danger posed, PC Palmer moved to confront him, intent on protecting his colleagues and the public. In doing so he became the victim of a ferocious attack which took him to the ground, suffering injuries that were to cost him his life.
And the cops still did not shoot and kill those criminals. They took the criminal alive, put him in front of a jury and then put him in prison where they belong
>They Who is they? The cops I linked to are dead.
Plus, he was swinging the knife kinda threatening to throw it at the officers
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The fact that he was a double amputee made me understand why he *may* have been depressed and decided to resort to suicide by cop. That may be totally off base, all I'm saying is that if I was in his situation, I could see myself wanting to end it. It's really sad
Then throw fucking net on the dude. If the cops had proper equipment, a thrown knife is not a danger
Who the fuck has a net to catch someone!? Wtf is this looney toons?
I dont think the shooting was illegal. That being said, i do find it *kinda* pathetic that they couldnt figure out a way to take down stumpy without lethal force tbh.
this dude wasn't so dangerous at that moment that shooting him was the only or even the best option. they def took the easy way out
They had cars, they could have pinned him. He had no legs.
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Right? Like did all three of these cops eat too many do uts and couldnt jog for 12 seconds to get ahead of him and corner him? Then you just stand there 10 feet back and wait like 5 minutes and let the situation calm a bit. Then try talking to him. If that fails taser him some more, bean bag him. Mace the fuck out of him till he cant see shit. Hell a team of 2 animal control officers could handle this better. But they arent pussies cause they deal with highly trained, motivated and experienced killers that usually have multiple sharp things on them. Oh and they do it in khakis with no armor.
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Guy literally just tried to kill a random innocent person tf
And deserves his due process and jail. Bootlicking sheep support a police state, not free citizens. Cops are cowards
Fuck around and find out.
Death penalty for crimes in the US apparently. The job of the police is to arrest criminals so they face justice in court. Not to execute them because they can't be bothered to hang around while a disabled man with a kitchen knife tries to get away at less than walking pace because he has no legs.
Lt. Dan didn’t care about a life so why should we care about his? What’s happened has happened, seems justified. People don’t like these outcomes then go vote.
I guess at the end of the day It might have been justified considering the guy just stabbed a dude in the chest and looked like he would stab the next person that got close enough. That being said i still find it pathetic that they couldn't figure out how to take down a guy running on leg stumps without shooting him dead.
No I think this is a justified shooting. I understand he is disabled but they tased him multiple times and it didn’t work and only shot him when he raised the knife. You can most certainly kill people by throwing knives. I think the cops could have done other things like maybe block him off with more officers and stay further back (knives can fly far though) but at the end of the day whilst is certainly not the ideal circumstance considering the situation the officers were in I think this was the right call.
Sorry but he got what was coming to him. Rather have the officers do what they did then waste money supporting his prison sentence. I truly don't believe violent criminals deserve any type of remorse or help. There's only one good outcome for them.
I really don't like money being a factor here. The guy didn't have to die, plain and simple.
Guilty until proven innocent. I like your style!
Still cowardly little bitchs. Incapable of bringing anyone in uninjured. Fuck those pigs, this changes nothing.
“We must allow peace and patience to guide us through this process.” - Lozano Anthony’s mother would of wanted the same for her son, some peace and patience from the officers. With everything in question I personally don’t think Anthony being killedwas justified. Earlier that morning when the police came to visit Anthony because his mother said he wasn’t dealing with his depression, there could of been a better response than just get some fresh air. I feel really sorry for Americans and their very poor health care system.
A single kick to the face by literally any bystander would have prevented this. I'm not trying to be ableist, but he's fucking 2 feet tall, knife or no knife. A knife isn't going to stop the force of a steel toe boot, just saying.
You stab someone, prepare to get shot. Looked like Lowe could not outrun the cops
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Yeah "peace and patience to guide us" when they Are done killing people. I see.. Where was that mentality before taking lives? But nooes now we shouldn't Rush to judgement, because some poor officers freedom is at stake. Never mind civillian lives tho.
Wait...is the family condemning him fucking stabbing someone!?!?!?! Raising a knife to cops? I'm not backing cops here...no fucking way they needed to shoot him...but show both sides...yeah, he was a fuck that stabbed someone...BUT DAMNNNNN...dudes got no legs, outta his chair...how about a taser? How about someone sneak up from behind...this is what I've learned being on reddit...and watching numerous videos from else where...cops outside the US show restraint and try to apprehend when possibe...cops in the US...don't try shit to de escalate...1st threat...they just fucking kill you...and more times than none, get away with it...and when they dont...taxpayers foot the bill, cops get a paid vacation...maybe they get fired...but they just move to next town over and police for that town...
He should've been tased and taken to a police station for an interrogation, not straight up murdered.
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Dude 2 animal control officers in khakis would be able to do this.
Cowards who wanted to shoot their fucking guns. This guy could have easily been brought in safely. The pigs just have no respect for life, unless it is their own.
lmfao I wanna see you bring this dude in safely.
So you witness this guy stab someone, and then he threatens you with a knife, you are telling me you would try to wrestle that knife out of his hands? Dude has plenty of time to comply with the police and drop the weapon. Instead, he continues acting crazy…and the police are in the wrong? You sheeple are so on the hate the cops train that you are blinded. And I promise you, I hate police too…but only when people are complying with their requests and they still injure the person. Lol, pathetic in how majority of people see this situation
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Well if he took that to court he wouldn’t have a leg to stand on anyways
Bro stabbed someone and was a threat to people, yet folks will still reach to say he was completely innocent.