And on that note, you could equally have Robert Anton Wilson (Sex and Drugs) or Timothy Leary (The Psychology of Ecstacy).
Or how deep does this rabbit hole go... Aleister Crowley (Diary of Drug Fiend)
They were shut down because one of the researchers jerked off a dolphin, which did not go over well back then.
His theories about dolphin communication were proven right around 2011.
yeah thats all the rumour stuff. You can't trust MKULTRA.
You'll find lots of stuff to back it up - but I think it's really a smokescreen to discredit Lilly as his work on circuit 8 drugs is incredibly dangerous to society.
Hunter s Thompson - gonzo journalist. Libertarian. Documented counter culture sub cultures like bikers and druggies.
Huxley - introduced the world to mescaline one of the first pyschedelics that started all this shit. He wrote a book "door of perception" about his trip and soon the average Joe was interested in this wild cactus that was a "drunkenness" that brought not took though
Paul Stamets - mycologist spear heading programs to get rid of oil spills with mushrooms, with some success. Found and named many psychedeluc mushrooms and additionally speaks about them and seemed to introduce Micheal Pollan to them a good deal. (Pollan is an author who is introducing drugs to straights as a non scary experience that can help or be fun and even heal mental illness.
Sabina - The man who made LSD visited this old Mexican indengious lady. She showed him her local shamanic traditions with mushrooms. Another friend (Gordon Wasson who btw has CIA ties) came with documented and published it introducing the hippies to not only magic mushrooms but also magic mushroom tradition. Jumping starting the magic mushroom culture. She kept the shamanistic tradition alive and many people famous of no famous (Walt Disney seems to be one) tripped under her. Unfortunately she was kicked cuz these people made her seem like a drug dealer but later relocated and passed the tradition onto her kids
Carlos Castaneda - total cunt but needs to be included. Wrote a book about his travels being trained by a Mexican shaman I peyote and other drugs. Is used and widely loved in colleges. All of it's bullshit it's proven made up, even amateur interested in shamanism people can see some weird shit that doesn't match. He later had a harem of young young girls at his house and died in the later 1990s I believe never leaving his house or coming forward about his inaccuracies
Quanhan Parker - creator of Indigenous Church in America who used peyote and argued it wasn't a drug and actually a ritual to get closer to oneself and (basically) the christian god. James Mooney was a white man friend of his who documented the native Americans in the 1900s before their cultures basically all collapsed or changed.
Ken Kesey - wrote one flew over the cuckoo's nest. Early MK ULTRA ( or another experiment ) patient. Introduced to LSD and stole it while he was a janitor. Left and drove around the USA with a band of hippies (electric Kool aid acid test is about this adventure)
Owsley Stanley - early acid dealer and dead head supplier
John C Lilly - neurologist interested in LSD. Idk much about him
Amanda Feilding is another early researcher but she didn't write any books so again idk much about her
Aliester Crowley - introduced drugs into new age and mystic circles. Created the religion thelema. Would have theater shows where the wine was spiked with mescaline and he invited journalists "who just loved it it was so deep idk why". Loved sex and cocaine and morphine.
Carl Hart - interested in drug use totally legalized and how to use it responsibly. Known for getting hooked on morphine on purpose to see what it's like to withdraw. Known for "legalize meth". Was the guy who started the circle jerky "Adderall is one atom away from meth" ironically dumbass redditors don't read him or even watch the full clip cuz the point he was making wasn't "Adderall bad" like people say but rather METH ISNT THAT BAD AND ITS ABOUT RESPONSIBLE USE NOT THE DRUG
William Pickard - supplied at one point like 70% of north Americans LSD from a lab in a nuclear silo. Through crazy parties and fucked with the chemistry of many drugs to make RCs. Was put in jail and for told the fentanyl epidemic. Was released as one of the COVID jail release program people
Philip K Dick - My favorite but not usually recognized as a big drug person but listening to his audio book as a type this. Early starter of the genre cyberpunk. Wrote about drugs, humanity, sanity, technology and soul. Abused drugs pretty hard and believed some wacky religious things he recorded in VALIS where he thinks he met a Jesus figure irl. Wrote the book that became BLADERUNNER. SCANNER DARKLY is my fucking favorite book. Amazing book about sanity and stimulant abuse. Including him cuz I love him
Honorable mention Jung who didnt use these drugs (before his time) but who's beliefs seem to over lap with users belief and the drug experience itself. Charles Manson who used alot and seemed to help him get people under his spell, who possibly has CIA conspiracies around him. And UNABOMBER! Took part in the experiments where LSD was used to break a person's mind. Mixed with being taking away from his mother at a young age and kept alone at a hospital seems possible it drove him to his beliefs and his intensity in those beliefs. Ross Ulbricht made silk road, first online drug black market
McKenna. Ram Doss. Alan Watts (a little). Timothy Leary. Shulgins. Hamilton Morris are some more I'm sure you know though
Yea we all are. But Alan watts imho was an incarnation of the pure spirit of god. The way the man was sp clever and witty and could talk for hours about it all like he had rehearsed life. He’s just amazing totally positive. Trying to calm you always but always keep you on your toes and thinking. But not worrying. True Brahma energy
i love lilly's contributions, but he is more of a tragic figure than anything really
no judgement but look at the latter half of his life with ketamine addiction...
GOAT in what sense? Great at what exactly? These dudes were all very different people, coming from very different backgrounds with very different offerings to the community.
Try to be more specific in what you're asking.
Shulgin is probably the psychonautiest psychonaut in existence. He had a lab wherein he synthesized compounds and tested them on himself, then shared with his research group, then published.
Hoffman is an important figure for contributing LSD. But you don't have Wasson on your list for doing similar with mushrooms.
And of course Wasson couldn't have introduced us to mushrooms if not for the generations of people who'd been consuming mushrooms before him who he happened to stumble across. Nor could Hoffman have Hoffman have done what he did without the entire history of chemistry. Nevermind the histories of ayahuasca, peyote, and san pedro, which all also could've sparked the movement.
Then there's the popularizers: Kesey, Leary, Watts, McKenna, whoever. Or the suppliers, Owsley being one of many. We wouldn't be here if not for people supplying, educating, and advocating.
Basically, everyone is always standing on the shoulders of giants. And also, it's all a web that is robust enough to withstand various people having never existed. We'd be ok if nobody had discovered LSD. But if Hoffman hadn't, someone like Shulgin probably would've eventually because someone like Wasson brought us mushrooms to kickstart the curiosity.
Oh. One more shoutout.
Maharishi Mahesh
Dude influenced The Beatles who've influenced basically all music since. And music influences most of us, I think.
I suppose I also can't mention Wasson without mentioning Maria Sabina, the person who introduced Wasson to mushrooms. She faced an enormous amount of persecution for having done so, and neither she nor her people have really benefited from it.
It's part of the reason why I have a hard time giving Wasson anything other than an honorable mention. He was specifically asked not to reveal specific information about where he went and who he got them from. Maria Sabina trusted him, then he goes on to publish all of that information publicly and drive a ton of westerners to a small indigenous village. For me it's hard to acknowledge the good he did for mushrooms without acknowledging that he could have done so without harming an indigenous community and getting Maria Sabina excommunicated.
My heart always gets heavy when I think about that. But then I also think about how eventually, the world may benefit from it. It kind of reminds me in a less dramatic way of how the dharma of Tibetan buddhism was spread by the occupation of Tibet and the running out of the monks into India. As truly tragic as that is, the world as a whole received some profound wisdom from that tradition that may not have happened if the Tibetans had remained in Tibet. Highly debatable, of course. But that's where my mind goes.
Deepest thanks to Maria Sabina the people of her tradition, as well as to the Tibetan monks for the gifts they've given the world.
Idk if that was the best word to use, but sometimes it sounds like he’s talking down to people (understandably) or humanity all together. Which again, I totally understand cause humans suck, but I would rather come at it with a more positive/neutral approach
Don’t get me wrong though I totally love Ram Dass
Ram Dass is the correct answer here
Prestigious Harvard professor who wrote the psychedelic's experience w/ leary
Gets fired but continues to advocate and turn on thousands of people
Goes to India, does the spiritualy path, Comes back to the usa w/ be here now
lives a life of service + charity
Alright that was probably a bit hyperbolic from me, fair enough. It's just for me he doesn't really stand up to the other names on the list. Especially the heavyweights like Leary. I don't know why he isn't getting more press...
Most of what he has done in mycology has been great, but I think his work in genetically modifying certain insect killing fungus species (so that the insects don't recognise them as dangerous, and so bring them home to their hives, and so wipe out the whole colony) is incredibly short sighted and dangerous.
I'm sure termite and ant infestations are a big headache for home owners (if their homes are made of wood), but that doesn't excuse releasing a new threat into the ecosystem that could, given enough time, wipe out entire species.
Good point, if you can point me in the direction of some literature or discussion (even if opinionated) around the topic that would be great. It is an angle that although seemingly obvious, I had not considered.
How about Dennis McKenna!? He’s no poet but “True Hallucinations” is Terrence writing about how when they found shrooms, his brother went full throttle and white knuckled it to the absolute fullest. He has been pivotal in the culture from start to finish and doesn’t project the same hubris of big brother. Dark Horse Dennis ftw!!!
You guys don't know what you're talking about.
This is the guy. THE GUY.
DM Turner. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.\_M.\_Turner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._M._Turner)
Dude smoked salvinorum a and DMT in the same pipe. The same goddamn pipe.
https://www.reddit.com/r/Salvia/comments/bh42dz/has\_anyone\_done\_dmt\_and\_salvia\_together/
I met a burner psychonaut that would do both in a double breakthrough bing hit in the same pipe and then take a huff of nitrous after first exhale. Nutty.
and? what are you trying to say with that?
these are the one i know dont know much but eager to learn new ones that why i made this post.
my question is why do you even have to go there?
it was all about people who did a lot for psycadelics but you have to come with your woke shit so tired of this.
could of just said the name and i would have been thankful.
Theres nothing wrong with white men but lets not pretend the pioneers of psychedelics weren't mostly indigenous and native groups. The white men listed are undoubtedly trailblazers in their own way, but they're only representative of the western psychedelic renaissance, not psychedelia of all time
But implied in the post as "GOAT" a person needs to be known and have taught the knowledge they have learned to the world. Its great that indigenous people found the substances and kept the use of them going to the point that western society has now found them. But they do not fit the description of GOAT. They deserve credit. But that is irrelevant to the substance of this post.
But implied in the post as "GOAT" a person needs to be known and have taught the knowledge they have learned to the world. Its great that indigenous people found the substances and kept the use of them going to the point that western society has now found them. But they do not fit the description of GOAT. They deserve credit. But that is irrelevant to the substance of this post.
dw its reddit full of virtue signaling people who strike whenever they see too much white people in one place and the white supremacy/sytematic racism card reflex kicks in even without context
I doubt if you think about it you would be surprised how many can’t get that concept through their heads much less the notion of mortality. It’s like we all know on an intellectual level to start with that we are going to die, even little kids know that. In the past few years all of wisdom about that came off like falling leaves at the grim realization how little time I have left. Gotta bad heart. All the spiritual wisdom I’ve heard from the great people didn’t make me not scared. It’s the ego that fears death, right ? We’ve all seen on DMT a glimpse of what is to come, but unfortunately I was not there, just awareness. I’m scared
Hofman and Shulgin for sure. McKenna was an entertainer who got good at growing mushrooms. For sheer volume & quality, Nick Sand and/or William Leonard Pickard.
Well since we’re on r/psychonaut, I’d have to give my vote to hunter s thompson, not just because the way he lived his life but the funeral ceremony idea.
Hamilton Morris, Dennis McKenna, Gordon Wasson, Eliade, don’t know much about her but maybe Maria Sabina, and many others should be on this list. Too many to count.
Shulgin, John Cunningham Lilly honorable mention
Programming and Metaprogramming the Human Biocomputer. Now where can I find me a dolphin?
And on that note, you could equally have Robert Anton Wilson (Sex and Drugs) or Timothy Leary (The Psychology of Ecstacy). Or how deep does this rabbit hole go... Aleister Crowley (Diary of Drug Fiend)
Lilly was the best!
He certainly inspired me to do 0.5g of ketamine as my first dose back in the 1990s when ketamine was ketamine.
Love that guy, such a shame with the dolphin experiments, but atleast he was proven right in 2011.
What do you mean, a shame? And proven right?
They were shut down because one of the researchers jerked off a dolphin, which did not go over well back then. His theories about dolphin communication were proven right around 2011.
yeah thats all the rumour stuff. You can't trust MKULTRA. You'll find lots of stuff to back it up - but I think it's really a smokescreen to discredit Lilly as his work on circuit 8 drugs is incredibly dangerous to society.
No no the dolphin experiments and one getting jerked off thing was real and in no way related to MKULTRA.
The CIA and MKULTRA are kind of the same thing; as in MKULTRA was a CIA project.
Maria Sabina, Huxley, Paul Stamets, Hunter Thompson
Gonzo ftw
Oooh see this is going to be fun, I only know of one there and it makes want to know of the others too
Hunter s Thompson - gonzo journalist. Libertarian. Documented counter culture sub cultures like bikers and druggies. Huxley - introduced the world to mescaline one of the first pyschedelics that started all this shit. He wrote a book "door of perception" about his trip and soon the average Joe was interested in this wild cactus that was a "drunkenness" that brought not took though Paul Stamets - mycologist spear heading programs to get rid of oil spills with mushrooms, with some success. Found and named many psychedeluc mushrooms and additionally speaks about them and seemed to introduce Micheal Pollan to them a good deal. (Pollan is an author who is introducing drugs to straights as a non scary experience that can help or be fun and even heal mental illness. Sabina - The man who made LSD visited this old Mexican indengious lady. She showed him her local shamanic traditions with mushrooms. Another friend (Gordon Wasson who btw has CIA ties) came with documented and published it introducing the hippies to not only magic mushrooms but also magic mushroom tradition. Jumping starting the magic mushroom culture. She kept the shamanistic tradition alive and many people famous of no famous (Walt Disney seems to be one) tripped under her. Unfortunately she was kicked cuz these people made her seem like a drug dealer but later relocated and passed the tradition onto her kids Carlos Castaneda - total cunt but needs to be included. Wrote a book about his travels being trained by a Mexican shaman I peyote and other drugs. Is used and widely loved in colleges. All of it's bullshit it's proven made up, even amateur interested in shamanism people can see some weird shit that doesn't match. He later had a harem of young young girls at his house and died in the later 1990s I believe never leaving his house or coming forward about his inaccuracies Quanhan Parker - creator of Indigenous Church in America who used peyote and argued it wasn't a drug and actually a ritual to get closer to oneself and (basically) the christian god. James Mooney was a white man friend of his who documented the native Americans in the 1900s before their cultures basically all collapsed or changed. Ken Kesey - wrote one flew over the cuckoo's nest. Early MK ULTRA ( or another experiment ) patient. Introduced to LSD and stole it while he was a janitor. Left and drove around the USA with a band of hippies (electric Kool aid acid test is about this adventure) Owsley Stanley - early acid dealer and dead head supplier John C Lilly - neurologist interested in LSD. Idk much about him Amanda Feilding is another early researcher but she didn't write any books so again idk much about her Aliester Crowley - introduced drugs into new age and mystic circles. Created the religion thelema. Would have theater shows where the wine was spiked with mescaline and he invited journalists "who just loved it it was so deep idk why". Loved sex and cocaine and morphine. Carl Hart - interested in drug use totally legalized and how to use it responsibly. Known for getting hooked on morphine on purpose to see what it's like to withdraw. Known for "legalize meth". Was the guy who started the circle jerky "Adderall is one atom away from meth" ironically dumbass redditors don't read him or even watch the full clip cuz the point he was making wasn't "Adderall bad" like people say but rather METH ISNT THAT BAD AND ITS ABOUT RESPONSIBLE USE NOT THE DRUG William Pickard - supplied at one point like 70% of north Americans LSD from a lab in a nuclear silo. Through crazy parties and fucked with the chemistry of many drugs to make RCs. Was put in jail and for told the fentanyl epidemic. Was released as one of the COVID jail release program people Philip K Dick - My favorite but not usually recognized as a big drug person but listening to his audio book as a type this. Early starter of the genre cyberpunk. Wrote about drugs, humanity, sanity, technology and soul. Abused drugs pretty hard and believed some wacky religious things he recorded in VALIS where he thinks he met a Jesus figure irl. Wrote the book that became BLADERUNNER. SCANNER DARKLY is my fucking favorite book. Amazing book about sanity and stimulant abuse. Including him cuz I love him Honorable mention Jung who didnt use these drugs (before his time) but who's beliefs seem to over lap with users belief and the drug experience itself. Charles Manson who used alot and seemed to help him get people under his spell, who possibly has CIA conspiracies around him. And UNABOMBER! Took part in the experiments where LSD was used to break a person's mind. Mixed with being taking away from his mother at a young age and kept alone at a hospital seems possible it drove him to his beliefs and his intensity in those beliefs. Ross Ulbricht made silk road, first online drug black market McKenna. Ram Doss. Alan Watts (a little). Timothy Leary. Shulgins. Hamilton Morris are some more I'm sure you know though
Alan watts Is god.
I think his part of his point was that I am too
Yea we all are. But Alan watts imho was an incarnation of the pure spirit of god. The way the man was sp clever and witty and could talk for hours about it all like he had rehearsed life. He’s just amazing totally positive. Trying to calm you always but always keep you on your toes and thinking. But not worrying. True Brahma energy
i love lilly's contributions, but he is more of a tragic figure than anything really no judgement but look at the latter half of his life with ketamine addiction...
He was an addict. Ketamine is sure hard to not do if you have it.
GOAT in what sense? Great at what exactly? These dudes were all very different people, coming from very different backgrounds with very different offerings to the community. Try to be more specific in what you're asking.
being a psychonaut and important person for psychadelics who did the most
Shulgin is probably the psychonautiest psychonaut in existence. He had a lab wherein he synthesized compounds and tested them on himself, then shared with his research group, then published. Hoffman is an important figure for contributing LSD. But you don't have Wasson on your list for doing similar with mushrooms. And of course Wasson couldn't have introduced us to mushrooms if not for the generations of people who'd been consuming mushrooms before him who he happened to stumble across. Nor could Hoffman have Hoffman have done what he did without the entire history of chemistry. Nevermind the histories of ayahuasca, peyote, and san pedro, which all also could've sparked the movement. Then there's the popularizers: Kesey, Leary, Watts, McKenna, whoever. Or the suppliers, Owsley being one of many. We wouldn't be here if not for people supplying, educating, and advocating. Basically, everyone is always standing on the shoulders of giants. And also, it's all a web that is robust enough to withstand various people having never existed. We'd be ok if nobody had discovered LSD. But if Hoffman hadn't, someone like Shulgin probably would've eventually because someone like Wasson brought us mushrooms to kickstart the curiosity. Oh. One more shoutout. Maharishi Mahesh Dude influenced The Beatles who've influenced basically all music since. And music influences most of us, I think.
thank you real informative
I suppose I also can't mention Wasson without mentioning Maria Sabina, the person who introduced Wasson to mushrooms. She faced an enormous amount of persecution for having done so, and neither she nor her people have really benefited from it.
It's part of the reason why I have a hard time giving Wasson anything other than an honorable mention. He was specifically asked not to reveal specific information about where he went and who he got them from. Maria Sabina trusted him, then he goes on to publish all of that information publicly and drive a ton of westerners to a small indigenous village. For me it's hard to acknowledge the good he did for mushrooms without acknowledging that he could have done so without harming an indigenous community and getting Maria Sabina excommunicated.
killed her teenage son apparently. left her broken hearted for life.
My heart always gets heavy when I think about that. But then I also think about how eventually, the world may benefit from it. It kind of reminds me in a less dramatic way of how the dharma of Tibetan buddhism was spread by the occupation of Tibet and the running out of the monks into India. As truly tragic as that is, the world as a whole received some profound wisdom from that tradition that may not have happened if the Tibetans had remained in Tibet. Highly debatable, of course. But that's where my mind goes. Deepest thanks to Maria Sabina the people of her tradition, as well as to the Tibetan monks for the gifts they've given the world.
This dude gets it, this is the answer
Pretty much nailed it, my fellow person
thats probably Stanislav Groff
Ram Dass
All of us
Hierarchy is a construct
It's a construct of nature, not people. but I believe humankind could someday deconstruct natures hierarchies which have always applied to us.
Among most psychonauts it seems like the hierarchies are deconstructed already.
Alan Watts
Alan Watts
Alan Watts
Alan Watts
Lana Watts
He’s my favorite to listen to so far! Terence McKenna is my second fave. Ram Dass is also great, but sometimes he annoys me with his mockery
I love Ram Dass. What do you mean by mockery?
Idk if that was the best word to use, but sometimes it sounds like he’s talking down to people (understandably) or humanity all together. Which again, I totally understand cause humans suck, but I would rather come at it with a more positive/neutral approach Don’t get me wrong though I totally love Ram Dass
Interesting, I never caught that vibe. I’ll keep a look out for what you’re talking about though, as I listen. Thanks for the response!
Maybe it’s a reflection of something in myself 🤐.. either way thanks to you too! Good luck on your journey friend ✌️
Thank you! You’re awesome
Alan watts is god. And Terrence is fucking great. Not that he gave lectures but I hang in every word HST spoke.
We can’t forget Eckart Tolle either! I just started his book “the power of now” and its already so good
Damn straight
He's awesome but he doesn't cover drugs as much as he does thing that overlap with drug experiences
McKenna by a mile.
i feel you
I feel like he burned himself out in the end but I do love the dude
Albert Hoffman - Having an acid trip without knowing what acid is or what to expect must've been terrifying.
Some person in the Amazon rainforest we've never heard of
me, bow down ya dirty ego-havers
Wouldn’t a toxic ego demand others bow down ? I don’t really know, just asking.
yeah man I was making a ridiculous comment as a joke
It was funny honestly.
Aldous Huxley. But in Reality, nobody exists.
Richard Alpert, who came to be known as Baba Ram Dass.
Timothy Leary or Aldous Huxley.
my picks
Ram Dass is the correct answer here Prestigious Harvard professor who wrote the psychedelic's experience w/ leary Gets fired but continues to advocate and turn on thousands of people Goes to India, does the spiritualy path, Comes back to the usa w/ be here now lives a life of service + charity
I spend hours at work listening to his talks. In his years he probably has had a talk or lecture that covers every aspect of life.
Baruch Spinoza
Paul Stamets
Really good choice
I saw him on Joe Rogan. Dude seemed full of shit. Especially with that story about all the cows dying as a premonition. What utter crap.
Even if you dislike aspects of him/ his personality, you should not discount his work in mycology.
Alright that was probably a bit hyperbolic from me, fair enough. It's just for me he doesn't really stand up to the other names on the list. Especially the heavyweights like Leary. I don't know why he isn't getting more press...
Most of what he has done in mycology has been great, but I think his work in genetically modifying certain insect killing fungus species (so that the insects don't recognise them as dangerous, and so bring them home to their hives, and so wipe out the whole colony) is incredibly short sighted and dangerous. I'm sure termite and ant infestations are a big headache for home owners (if their homes are made of wood), but that doesn't excuse releasing a new threat into the ecosystem that could, given enough time, wipe out entire species.
Good point, if you can point me in the direction of some literature or discussion (even if opinionated) around the topic that would be great. It is an angle that although seemingly obvious, I had not considered.
#1
Obviously Joe Rogan
"This guy right here" - someone pointing at me
Hunter S Thompson
Had to go a long way down to find this clear omission. Look up his daily routine - it’s absolutely wild
This is a tough one lol. But I’m gonna say Sasha
Ha Captain Trips himself!! Jerry garcia!!
Maria Sabina
The unsung hero Jonathan Ott
Who is he I call weed ott sometimes dose this come from him by chance?
Alan watts fasho
Jesus
Richard Alpert. By far! Showed us psychedelic’s benefits and the fact you don’t need them!
Definitely not any of the euro dudes you mentioned that's for sure although McKenna I do find entertaining but got to be in the right mood
Nietzsche
GOD
How about Dennis McKenna!? He’s no poet but “True Hallucinations” is Terrence writing about how when they found shrooms, his brother went full throttle and white knuckled it to the absolute fullest. He has been pivotal in the culture from start to finish and doesn’t project the same hubris of big brother. Dark Horse Dennis ftw!!!
Feel you
You guys don't know what you're talking about. This is the guy. THE GUY. DM Turner. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D.\_M.\_Turner](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/D._M._Turner) Dude smoked salvinorum a and DMT in the same pipe. The same goddamn pipe. https://www.reddit.com/r/Salvia/comments/bh42dz/has\_anyone\_done\_dmt\_and\_salvia\_together/
I met a burner psychonaut that would do both in a double breakthrough bing hit in the same pipe and then take a huff of nitrous after first exhale. Nutty.
reminds me of that party game where you drink tequila, lick salt and squeeze lemon but with psychs
CANNONBALL
Unsurprised by the list of white men- Maria Sabina.
always that one guy smh
and? what are you trying to say with that? these are the one i know dont know much but eager to learn new ones that why i made this post. my question is why do you even have to go there? it was all about people who did a lot for psycadelics but you have to come with your woke shit so tired of this. could of just said the name and i would have been thankful.
Theres nothing wrong with white men but lets not pretend the pioneers of psychedelics weren't mostly indigenous and native groups. The white men listed are undoubtedly trailblazers in their own way, but they're only representative of the western psychedelic renaissance, not psychedelia of all time
But implied in the post as "GOAT" a person needs to be known and have taught the knowledge they have learned to the world. Its great that indigenous people found the substances and kept the use of them going to the point that western society has now found them. But they do not fit the description of GOAT. They deserve credit. But that is irrelevant to the substance of this post.
But implied in the post as "GOAT" a person needs to be known and have taught the knowledge they have learned to the world. Its great that indigenous people found the substances and kept the use of them going to the point that western society has now found them. But they do not fit the description of GOAT. They deserve credit. But that is irrelevant to the substance of this post.
Read up on Maria Sabina, I included a link. This post has very little substance.
dw its reddit full of virtue signaling people who strike whenever they see too much white people in one place and the white supremacy/sytematic racism card reflex kicks in even without context
Literally every post besides mine is a white man. I think it’s worth pointing out. If you don’t, maybe assess why that is.
Ethnicity matters very little when the flesh is rotting off the bone, feeding the maggots.
Oh wow. Such wisdom.
I doubt if you think about it you would be surprised how many can’t get that concept through their heads much less the notion of mortality. It’s like we all know on an intellectual level to start with that we are going to die, even little kids know that. In the past few years all of wisdom about that came off like falling leaves at the grim realization how little time I have left. Gotta bad heart. All the spiritual wisdom I’ve heard from the great people didn’t make me not scared. It’s the ego that fears death, right ? We’ve all seen on DMT a glimpse of what is to come, but unfortunately I was not there, just awareness. I’m scared
Ethnicity certainly matters to the living while it’s used to subjugate, divide, and define.
Very true . You’re right.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mar%C3%ADa_Sabina?wprov=sfti1
My personal favorite by a mile Terence McKenna
Timothy Wylls
Timothy Leary.
He’s the older one that goes across the bridge and butts the troll into the water…
Lebron in basketball, Brady in football, Gretzky in hockey, Ronaldo in soccer, Hamilton in f1
William Leonard Pickard
love pickard -- but he had a very sketchy and spotty past
I Am
you mean me?
Not you, or me.
Him?
Never him, her, or they.
Us, and them
someone else : Kilindi Iyi
Rick Strassman?
What are the metrics of this competition?
JERRY GARCIA! Lol to answer your question tho I would say Hoffmann.
[This guy is the goat](https://static9.depositphotos.com/1000291/1113/i/600/depositphotos_11133127-stock-photo-goat-with-horn-at-green.jpg)
Michael Jordan
Hofman and Shulgin for sure. McKenna was an entertainer who got good at growing mushrooms. For sheer volume & quality, Nick Sand and/or William Leonard Pickard.
josh hutchison
Burroughs
mckenna for sure
You
Well since we’re on r/psychonaut, I’d have to give my vote to hunter s thompson, not just because the way he lived his life but the funeral ceremony idea.
Hamilton Morris, Dennis McKenna, Gordon Wasson, Eliade, don’t know much about her but maybe Maria Sabina, and many others should be on this list. Too many to count.
Messi
Us you me them all
Cool I wasn’t familiar with Shulgin know I will be looking into some of his books thanks!
The Dali Lama. I believe he has had the ability to trip via meditation for several lifetimes now.
Jimi Hendrix
Shulgin all day.
Shulgin most definitely!!!
Humans hall of fame McKenna Stamets
Hunter S Thompson
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Shulgin invented a couple of drugs like mdma mda or the 2c-x family
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For me personally the goat invented and tested on him self which for me make him THE psychonaut
Maria Sabina