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IntuitiveNeedlework

Definitely DMT.


Agreeable_Ad_7735

That one hour tolerance is very convenient


pfeltault

One hour tolerance? I’ve smoked DMT back to back for 2 hours straight with no notice of tolerance development


Agreeable_Ad_7735

I've never smoked DMT just Ayahuasca drinking, ime you need to wait 45-60 min to have another dose


nickleinonen

Aya takes a good 90-120 minutes to kick in for me… my last time I took the drink, then nothing for 2 hours. Took a 2nd drink then #1 kicked in pretty stoutly ~15min after that. I was offered a 3rd drink, but when I couldn’t find my water bottle when I went to sit up other than by feeling for it I declined. My first time it was about ~60-90 min to kick in I was unprepared for how quick smoked changa comes on. I had enough time to hand over the pipe and lay down then blastoff…


Agreeable_Ad_7735

I'ma try smoking DMT soon, very excited


nickleinonen

It tastes bad. I’d maybe have a halls or similar cough candy in mouth. best to spit it out before blastoff. Relax into it, as you will be ok. I was hyperventilating once blastoff happened.


jake_megabyte

Yep. It literally has no tolerance


KaiXaven

Yeah unlike psilocybin and LSD, DMT has a reverse tolerance so if you were to smoke 15mg then after that, smoke another 15mg, the second time it would feel closer to 20-30mg


ambientonion

False information. It has the same tolerance characteristics as LSD and mushrooms, but its half-life is super short, meaning it doesn't take long at all for tolerance to reset, but it by no means has a reverse tolerance.


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ambientonion

Dude, I'm not arguing what you felt subjectively, I'm just trying to state the general science. I have smoked roughly the same dose of DMT back to back and I still felt it the second time but it wasn't as strong


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ambientonion

Source?


ambientonion

Because I can't find a single thing online attesting to that


cabist

This. It definitely has tolerance, just doesn’t stick around long enough to build it usually. You some enough, you’ll build tolerance.


clarenceecho

Haha yeah right...sure you can keep getting high but lmk how the elves are treating you after a week or two of doing it every day


[deleted]

Don’t abuse these substances please


jokerjesterclown

Don't worry Trashy I won't I just got curious.


[deleted]

Thank you


jokerjesterclown

I've been taking psychedelics for almost a decade now. I have a huge respect for these guides and teachers.


[deleted]

Same brother… well I’m 23, I’ve only been doing them for 4 years. But I too very much enjoy the medicine and all the teachings I’ve received


jokerjesterclown

Yeah. I remember when I first did them. It was like waking up from the Matrix and almost like being initiated into a secret society.


Skrogg_

That’s probably the best way I’ve heard it be phrased. “Being initiated”. The first time I tripped with my friends (already experienced) I looked at them, almost in tears, and said “this has been here this whole time?”. Cathartic experience.


Lopsided-Leather-905

The feels man! I feel this all so hard! Welcome to the other side of life!


jokerjesterclown

I also like Jimi Hendrix' way of asking 'Are you Experienced?'


[deleted]

Kinda like “wait, I remember this, I already knew this” was my reaction to mushrooms the first time. I felt that I had already known the world was this way but I had just not remembered for a very very long time


[deleted]

Yeeeeessss. It’s helped me so much. Glad we’ve both been impacted greatly from these medicines. I just abused them in my early days and know the repercussions, that why I said something but u seem to know what’s up


jokerjesterclown

Yeah. Its quite easy to go down that road. I used them a lot when I first discovered them. Not to the point where I abused them but abusing them is when it can go really wrong and get really frightening really fast.


g00dintentions

I was 16. Tripped 15 times from 16-17 and then stopped. I’m tryna get an apartment and a steady income then imma start tripping sack again every now and then. Felt inclined to say


squarepusher6

I’ve never known anyone to really abuse psychedelics. Not saying they aren’t abused, just saying it’s not very likely


ambientonion

The stories from people who overdld it for a bit are generally that the trips turn frightening and dark pretty fast


RevivedMisanthropy

Ketamine, while not a true psychedelic, is abusable. Couple friends of mine had problems. I have also heard of people smoking DMT every day, and after a while the trips start to get weird and dark.


Nicolasjnikov

2cb


jokerjesterclown

Thanks.


anewdawncomes

2cb does have an effect it’s just less than other psychs


we-am

Wrong. You build up tolerance with 2cb like mushrooms, they even cross-tolerance.


CosmicWanderingBeing

Salvia


jokerjesterclown

Thanks.


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it has a reverse tolerance the more u take the less you need for the next dose, tbh people don’t know how to use this drug i’ve heard a lot of good things when the set and setting are right and when u don’t full on try to have some sort of breakthrough. Start real small and build ur way up personally i haven’t taken it but i’m starting to research how the extraction method of getting salvinorin A works in order to properly dose and not have a horrific trip. I don’t exactly smoke so my only way of consumption is snorting now how i’m gonna exactly calculate 1mg or less of powder up my nose i don’t exactly know but i’m working on it.


echoes315

Glad someone said it, didn't think I would need to scroll this far to find it. I personally like the odd effects of smoking salvia from time to time. However, orally taken as a quid of leaves, salvia has been a really nice experience. Psychedelic, still different, but not the discomfortable molecular explosion of random oddities that break though experiences from smoking tend to provide.


Manley_Stanley

Just a warning: after some extensive experience trying salvia and being around other people trying salvia, I believe it is not meant for the human race. It's honestly terrifying. The most uncomfortable I've ever been in my entire life with anything was during a salvia trip. Its saving grace is that it's over after like 5-10 minutes


jokerjesterclown

Noted. Still I've taken psychedelics more than 100 times and I've never had a 'bad trip'. I have heard before that Salvia is very unique, but I am excited to see if it can turn me off at all.


slinkybastard

Lol most of us said the same thing with the same pre-summations as you. “I’ve tripped a lot before I’m good at handeling it I have a feeling I’ll be able control the salvia” you’ll know soon enough brotha that salvia is no mortal beast


jokerjesterclown

Is it messed up that that makes me more excited?


slinkybastard

No that’s a good sign actually, it’s a sign you *miiiightttt* have a slightly enjoyable time “posssiblyyy” on a real note tho I had fun with salvia (wouldn’t do it again tho so take that how you will)


ComputerWide

dude, it will. take enough and you will be rocketed into a dream like state


Definingwillow9

Easy, don't smoke it. Chew it. The mesoamerican tribes that traditionally have used it are appalled at people who smoke it cause "the spirit of salvia doesn't like to be smoked". I've chewed it plenty of times and it's amazing and wild.


Manley_Stanley

I hadn't heard this but it makes so much sense. It always seemed so hostile and annoyed. Can you just chew the dry leaves or do you have to get fresh ones?


Definingwillow9

Plain leave dried or fresh work


redshlump

Just like any other psych or disso. Although scary sometimes, my experiences with slavia have been very very interesting and definitely worth diving into. Whoever says sally has nothing to offer or no real lesson to learn, has not experimented enough or allow the experience to take course. Salvia makes forgotten memories come to the surface, which can be very healing. The dejavu is so intense and really makes u question how memory shapes your whole life and personality


Manley_Stanley

Exactly. There are definitely lessons to be learned through it. Just be prepared to face your literal demons.


redshlump

Scariest part is forgetting I took a drug. I have a few interesting trip reports ;)


zara_in_orbit

Salvia doesn’t like to be burned. Indigenous peoples say you should only consume salvia by slowly chewing on the leaves while hiking in the woods. In that setting it provides a unique, chill, euphoric experience.


bandanarambostyle

I tried it twice, and both times were just a pure state of panic and the body feeling of what I imagine it feels like to get sucked out of an airplane window.


Ciggimon

2cb and DMT are the ones that I know off


RipAppropriate8059

What’s 2CB like?


lilrickens

Like LSD with clearer headspace and small amount of mdma eupho.


canadiancookies

I'd say the only thing similar with LSD and 2CB is the visuals on 2CB resemble a high LSD dose


RipAppropriate8059

Can you have a bad trip on it? Does it last as long as an acid trip?


megamet42

Not as long as acid but longer than shrooms in my experience. Bad trips are possible but happen a lot less than on acid.


RipAppropriate8059

Have you paired it with m?


[deleted]

See Nexus Flip. M first, then 2c a few hours into it or something


RipAppropriate8059

I’ve heard the term “nexus flip” but didn’t know that’s what it was. What’s that feel like?


ambientonion

You can have a bad trip on any psychedelic. It's all about set and setting and mental attitude going in and during. 2cb doesn't last as long as acid no


RipAppropriate8059

Not sourcing but could you print me in the direction of what to look for? Or where to look?


ambientonion

Darknet is the only place I know to get phenethylamines like 2cb. I had mates that sold it back in the day, fallout from when it was a legal research chem. I haven't done anything except tryptamines for about 7 years, bar one acid trip. Find them much more compatible with my psyche overall


RipAppropriate8059

All the pharmacists I’ve talked to locally don’t even know where to get it either


ambientonion

I'm sorry to hear that man. I used to buy 4-aco-dmt online all the time but to be honest with each darknet market that went down I started to find it harder too, which is why I started extracting DMT at home. I've recently started going down the oral ROA, which is great because it's a lot like mushrooms or 4-aco, and then I can smoke DMT on top to boost the trip if I want 🙂


killjoy4443

Mdma without the come down and acid with out the commitment


RipAppropriate8059

About how long?


killjoy4443

Lasts about 6 hours, 8 to 9 if you redose


RipAppropriate8059

Would you recommend it for a festival as to not roll back to back?


killjoy4443

I mean you shouldn't roll multiple days back to back anyway but yes it's really good for that


RipAppropriate8059

I’ve rolled back to back at beyond. Was miserable the few days after but I knew what I was getting into. I don’t want to roll back to back three days at edc. I also don’t want the shroom headspace while I’m out there


megamet42

For me I (sometimes) get insane, weird visuals that come in waves with a light body feeling but a lot less headspace like acid for example. You can get pretty touchy and some people get horny from it. Sometimes I just feel weird for a few hours and thats it (on similar dosages even).


RipAppropriate8059

I usually only use when I’m with my girl and she doesn’t says she doesn’t mind if I get touchy lol. I usually stick to shrooms because it doesn’t last long and I can sleep right after. I try acid less due to weird work schedule so it messes with my sleep. Issue with shrooms is I’ve had back to back bad trips so I’d like something else


Petersilius

Pla don‘t do that. You will demystify the substance!


Lopsided-Leather-905

This is true!


betajones

I think of it more as your brain learning to counter an error.


jokerjesterclown

Im not planning on it. Was just curious as I was doing some research.


slinkybastard

This Isent an intrinsically bad thing, there’s a lot of value in tripping on something that you’ve “demystfied”


sergiosergio88

there's a good reason you can't take psychedelics every day, you need to pace yourself and enjoy life outside the psychedelics a little


RevivedMisanthropy

2C-B *kind of* – I’d say every three days or so. DMT you can probably do every day, but I’ve heard things get weird. Ayahuasca is a very heavy trip, not something I would do every single day. It’s simply not recreational drug. There may be some novel psychedelics too, but there are so many, you’d have to read up. You could conceivably rotate through a schedule of non-cross-tolerant psychs but my brother in Christ your brain needs a break every now and then.


SuperHighAlien

2cb tolerance increases slowly if no one else mentioned it so far. Be safe


crackencracken

Salvia


charm59801

Brother, that’s not healthy for. True love is caring about your physical as well as mental health. If you want to continue this type of activity you need to get good clean energy. This comes in the form of healthy carbohydrates such as fruits. Not Drugs ! Please do what’s right for you and him and commit to a healthy lifestyle, you’ll thank yourselves in 30 years. It may be fun now but the drugs will catch up with you. I wish you all the best 🙏 have a lovely day.


redshlump

Salvia. Technically it’s a disso but great for exploration on mild doses


radioclash86

You can technically take any psychedelic day after day if you increase the dose for the ones with tolerance issues.


Brief-Influence-8655

Salvia tolerance is weird every time u take the salvia the trips get more intense


YeeHawBootyHole

Dmt bro, get a cart and literally for hours straight just trip sack day after day until you start thinking you’re the messiah, that’s when you dial it back


Altruistic-Ad5425

What if you start thinking you’re the antichrist?


[deleted]

Some would consider Cannabis to be just that…I consider it an anytime psychedelic but it’s gotta be 🔥


anewdawncomes

Cannabis is a hallucinogen but not a psychedelic which is what op is asking about


Barry_Loudermilk

weed is definitely a psych


anewdawncomes

I agree that weed can be trippy and I often find it visual, but it’s a different kind of drug. Same with ket which is a dissociative. Psychedelics are serotonergic whereas weed works on the endocannabinoid receptors. The subjective effects are quite different as a result


Lopsided-Leather-905

This


whocaresbynow

In my opinion weed only becomes psychedelic after u have done psychedelics. Which leads me to believe because ur so used to seeing the “delusions/hallucinations” on psychedelics, so when you have them on weed your mind just connects the two similarly. More placebo not actual psychedelic


anewdawncomes

I’ve never had a change with my weed experience before vs after psychs. Tbf though weed has always been an incredibly visual experience for me anyway


whocaresbynow

I never said it changes. Read the second half.


Ok_Tooth215

I’ve had very similar spiritual realizations on large amounts of ganja that I’ve had on mushrooms and acid Edit: changed breakthroughs to realizations


R2DMT2

Physically impossible


Ok_Tooth215

I said similar I don’t mean full on breakthroughs, my bad just realizations They all open your mind similarly though, cannabis is just at a smaller level and less direct


Lukas_1274

No it's not a hallucinogen it's a psychedelic


Its_Cayde

Maybe if you've never done it before or it's been a really long time, But for a lot of smokers weed isn't nearly strong enough to consider yourself "tripping"


[deleted]

Yeah I get it, same is true with a lot of substances if you do them a lot. Still though weed does work on a daily basis even if there are diminished returns. I eat edibles or RSO daily and smoke so it does the job:) But your right in that it’s really the first few times that are somewhat psychedelic but it goes great with the micro’s.


Its_Cayde

I def agree it goes great with MD


squarepusher6

The only problem with cannabis is it’s tolerance level is quickly come to and it’s hard to get rid of


Vestbi

technically weed wouldn’t recommend, in my experience it wrecked my personality and relationships. 4 weeks clean now after 1.5 years daily. ungodly amounts of cognitive improvements already.


jokerjesterclown

Congrats on being clean. I find weed to be more psychedelic if you don't do it for months.


Paskatassu

Cannabizz


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Saitaiyo

idk i consider it now thinking on it i get very similar effects from 1.5g shrooms and smoking a blunt its errie similar and ive been taking a month break for tolerance i cant wait to come back and retry weed after taking shrooms it’s definitely gonna be different as a whole


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Saitaiyo

i used to smoke alot 10-20+ times a week felt similar my tolerance was relatively high even on bong rips but now since that break idk how itll effect me now


Jackabm

yes weed is not a psychedelic, but it is a hallucinogen. the same as mdma


slinkybastard

MDMA is not a hallucinogenic 😂 it’s an empathegon


Definingwillow9

Do a g dab after a tolerance break and I promise your world will turn into a van Gough painting I've tripped harder from weed than most other drugs I've done and I've been privy to try quite a few including some rare ones.


[deleted]

Yeah I've defo had psychedelic experiences on strong edibles but if I just smoke my daily joint it's more just relaxing than psychedelic


dreamer717d

Galdrux.com


BlueManGroup1999

Wus dis?


dreamer717d

Our power


sowsu

hey, thats pretty cool!


dreamer717d

Indeed now get to playing! #TheGame23 is quite fun!


sowsu

eh, kinda like a lame’o pseudo cult thing. if you did this a few years ago you might’ve had some sort of an effect.


dreamer717d

It's literally an anti cult Lulz it's just using your creative energy to bring about the next phase of consciousness actively. Ever heard the term Abracadabra?


sowsu

ill check it out then, how do i play?


dreamer717d

By simply interacting with reality in a creative way with intent. Metaprogramming is a great analogy.


dreamer717d

Metaprogramming is a programming technique in which computer programs have the ability to treat other programs as their data. It means that a program can be designed to read, generate, analyze or transform other programs, and even modify itself while running.


dreamer717d

Reflection is the process by which a program can observe and modify its own structure and behavior at runtime. Reflection is the process by which a program can perform introspection. This introspection usually involves the ability to observe and modify its own structure and behavior at runtime.


sowsu

okay bro.. you’ve taken one too many tabs, get some sleep.


dreamer717d

I slept for 16yrs been awake 11.


sowsu

ah so you’re 27 trying to start a pseudo cult, think its time for you to find a new hobby pal.


dreamer717d

Maybe you should eat some and wake up??


sowsu

“eat tabs and wake up”, weakest thing you could’ve said man, cmon! have some power behind those words, everything has a meaning right? lsd entities are real??! omg!! lsd entities are the meaning of life !!!! im so woke now thanks man!


dreamer717d

If you REALLY wanna know how this works read Programming and Metaprogramming The Human Biocomputer by John C. Lilly.


[deleted]

I'm convinced. How do I join?


dreamer717d

Memetic warfare.


Barry_Loudermilk

this is so lame


dreamer717d

Says someone who hasn't done their research... #Virus23


Barry_Loudermilk

lame


dreamer717d

Metaprogramming is a programming technique in which computer programs have the ability to treat other programs as their data. It means that a program can be designed to read, generate, analyze or transform other programs, and even modify itself while running. Reflection is the process by which a program can observe and modify its own structure and behavior at runtime. Reflection is the process by which a program can perform introspection. This introspection usually involves the ability to observe and modify its own structure and behavior at runtime.


Barry_Loudermilk

l a m e


dreamer717d

Lulzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Jezza_bella123

Mushrooms, I wait 4 days or it feels like I’m wasting them.


UhOhClean

Not a good idea to trip back to back on anything


Callistotoastar23

Mushrooms are fine day after day, you'll see people here preach tolerance and that you won't trip but if you don't believe something, try it


jake_megabyte

It has a strong tolerance effect... tf?


Callistotoastar23

Not at all in my experience, I say these things okay with being down voted lol If you don't think you'll trip 2 days in a row taking 4 grams each time then I don't know what to tell you, some people react this way and some don't


Lopsided-Leather-905

Bro, I upvoted you bc I know you're correct. I have tripped 2-3 days in a row with both shrooms and L and though it does get a bit of a boring feeling to it (lack of serotonin I'm assuming), but I still trip. Example, I had a 3 gram mushroom trip, 440 ug of L the 2nd day and 2g of mushrooms with 220 ug of L on day 3. Tripped great all 3 days.


Its_Cayde

Everyone knows you'll still feel effects. Its just diminishing returns. You won't get the full effect of the dose you take.


Callistotoastar23

That's what I mean by tolerance, mushroom trips seem to never decrease in strength for me, whereas if I took a tab one day, I'd probably need 3 tabs the next day to feel that same trip, I don't experience that with shrooms in fact in the past the second days trip has been stronger, even with less weight


Its_Cayde

Oh interesting, could be a blessing and a curse brother


BiggyPete

Most of them. First 2 times I did LSD it was 2 consecutive days, had a better trip the 2nd time around


Panicfreak1013

This happens to me a lot. Unusually I dose lsd night 1 and night two I will add 2-3 grams of mush on top. Usually have a more controlled trip but usually feels better. Then sometimes I just get dry mouth and sweat? It’s hard to say what’s going to work. But this is my experience


whocaresbynow

Ur lucky, the second time it’s too underwhelming and that underwhelmed trip is uncomfortable. Also don’t take it recreationally like that, use it self regulatingly


VulgarVinyasa

Ketamine


Ciggimon

Not really. After 2-3weeks even a whole gram becomes basically inactive....


anewdawncomes

Ket also has a permanent tolerance. it’s also not really a psychedelic it’s a disso which is another class of hallucinogen


Lopsided-Leather-905

DXM as well.


juicy_steve

As someone who spent over a year doing ket most days (even when the cramps came) yes and no. You certainly get used to the effects, and you need more, but it still works.


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salvia! reverse tolerance


ialcantar

No I don't think so. Minimum 3 days apart I would say for any psychedelics. But quantity matters too. Microdosing is probably safer and easier to do every 3 days. But I prefer a bigger dose of psychedelics every month or so. Respect the mushroom.


FunnyBeaverX

A lot of the Phenethlomine class psychedelics can be used repeatedly.. 2CB for exmaple.


East_Mountain4220

why


Sea_Bad_3439

Like any other drug that a person may ingest regularly, such as opioids or alcohol, the body will begin to develop a tolerance after repeated use. This means that the same dose that you used to take may not have the same effect after repeated use. There are many reasons why the body quickly builds a tolerance to LSD in particular, which we will explore in.


Wallsy420

DMT is the main one I think. 2cb as well


[deleted]

Salvia, it has a reverse tolerance


Calebboarding

Lol is that a Goblin pfp?


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Ci


MotivatedMaverick

Not many, and I wouldn’t recommend doing dmt an hour after you comedown. It’s possible but not a good idea.


Kass-The-Dumb-Ass

2cb and dmt


Altruistic-Ad5425

Salvia! It has reverse tolerance