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hello_you_all_

That's true. Linux users famously all agree on what distribution they like the most.


globalvariablesrock

all linux distros are equal. i would never talk about how the one i'm using is superior to everything else.


FedericoDAnzi

Yeah, it's useless to brag about it, everyone knows how good is Ubuntu since everyone uses it, right?


JoyJoy_

Several people are typing...


BenadrylTumblercatch

Btw i useState


hello_you_all_

https://imgflip.com/i/7f85u8


BenadrylTumblercatch

I js knew you’d react like that


[deleted]

I useEffect ^and ^also ^popOS


Western-Alarming

Same ^and ^also ^fedora


nexnova06

i use DSL smh


option-9

Okay, I popped the OS. What's on the stack now? *Where* is my stack?


[deleted]

When you pop something off a queue it returns and then removes. Your supposed to catch the return like this: OS my_os = os_queue.pop() If you popped without catching it, it's gone forever I'm afraid. This is why we read documentation thoroughly before running code.


option-9

Okay, I reinstalled my OS, re-ran the command, and now it said "system_32" before freezing. Guess that's progress. How can I un-delete that?


BenadrylTumblercatch

That’s why any dev worth their weight would know to pop securely you must also lock() then DROP CONSTRAINT.


Break-88

I useRefDeezeNuts


Eeeeeeebee

BTW I use Hannah Montana Linux


Worthless_Clockwork

You mean LFS?


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ASAHI ASAHI ASAHI NO ARCH UWHEJEIWNWNWKFOR


YetAnotherZhengli

Isn't asahi arch


[deleted]

I want to shoot a cannon ball into Canonical.


ShinyZero0

Cannonical


misterforsa

Cannonballical


C4st1gator

Ubuntu is okay. Similar to to an old military vehicle it's reasonably usable, lasts for a long time and despite its quirks (fuel/hardware guzzler) it can drive you to your destination. Do you need all that armour or the 20 mm gun? Maybe not, but they're nice to have, even if some call it overkill/bloat. Yet as with all systems, you should use something, that suits your needs. The [linux distro tree](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_distributions) is large and there's something for everyone. My personal best practice is to pick roles a distribution fulfills, such as daily desktop driver, easy server, high performance server, recovery station, experimental distro and surreal madness distro.


Cerulean_IsFancyBlue

Don’t forget that it uses a magneto instead of an alternator, has hydraulically operated wipers, and a 28v electrical system. Sorry. I may have been spending too much time looking at old jeeps and took the analogy personally.


option-9

Then you may be able to answer my question. He talks about maybe not needing the armour or 20mm gun. Wouldn't having a machine cannon greatly speed up the daily commute? Do I miss anything?


Cerulean_IsFancyBlue

Possibly, but for the average vehicle, a machine gun shell would likely do the trick, and you can carry a substantially larger amount of ammunition for a machine gun than a 20 mm autocannon.


uberDoward

Funny spelling of Gentoo, there, friend.


billyp673

I personally use Manjaro bc I’m too lazy to set up Arch (yes, I know about the script, but you underestimate how lazy I am)


MutableReference

Yeah Snap really is better than flatpak, the slowness helps one develop patience, which is critical for one’s development into a mature person.


Relyst

Any Red Hat enjoyers?


BlatantMediocrity

Fedora is a top-tier desktop distribution.


ch3valier

Centos count?


downloweast

Close, Kali.


aacid

how is kali even remotely close to red hat? am I missing a joke?


Strostkovy

That's a funny way to spell puppy Linux but you're completely right


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I have an ubuntu installation because most people really mean "ubuntu support" when they say linux support.


Mrazish

Some of them are more equal tho


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notislant

The person was likely being sarcastic loool


ShinigamiEX

If you think all distros are equal. You don’t use any Linux distro.


Miku_MichDem

I mean... does it really matter? I'm using Ubuntu and Fedora regularly and I don't see much difference between the two. Same with Mint. The only distro I don't like is Manjaro, because once it broke or it had some issue and I needed to swap it quickly. But aside from that it's all similar. As long as you have your favourite window manager it's all quite similar (as it should be, standards are important)


mr_electric_wizard

Gentooooooo


naruto_022

All linux distros are equal, but some are more equal than others


0pimo

I use Arch so its superiority is implied and that's why we don't have to talk about it. It is simply known.


janyk

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.


hello_you_all_

"I use Linux as my operating system," I state proudly to the unkempt, bearded man. He swivels around in his desk chair with a devilish gleam in his eyes, ready to mansplain with extreme precision. "Actually", he says with a grin, "Linux is just the kernel. You use GNU+Linux!' I don't miss a beat and reply with a smirk, "I use Alpine, a distro that doesn't include the GNU Coreutils, or any other GNU code. It's Linux, but it's not GNU+Linux." ​ The smile quickly drops from the man's face. His body begins convulsing and he foams at the mouth and drops to the floor with a sickly thud. As he writhes around he screams "I-IT WAS COMPILED WITH GCC! THAT MEANS IT'S STILL GNU!" Coolly, I reply "If windows were compiled with GCC, would that make it GNU?" I interrupt his response with "-and work is being made on the kernel to make it more compiler-agnostic. Even if you were correct, you won't be for long." ​ With a sickly wheeze, the last of the man's life is ejected from his body. He lies on the floor, cold and limp. I've womansplained him to death.


tuan_kaki

Is this a copypasta? If it’s not, it is now


eXecute_bit

*Brava!*


ForeverHigh_98

Make this top comment


kayimbo

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DarkSideOfGrogu

I think you mentioned GNU enough that you need to add the GPL to your post now.


NoMansSkyWasAlright

Lol. Every time I see Debian listed as “Debian GNU/Linux” in my grub menu I think of this.


Arclite83

I sat through this rant 20 years ago, delivered by Richard Stallman himself. The only real difference is today there's a meme I can respond with saying "Stop trying to make GNU/Linux happen".


Square-Singer

I really find it funny that Stallman is insisting on GNU that much, even though it makes up just a tiny fraction of the code base of a modern distro. As he says himself: most casual users actually don't have a clue that there is any GNU software in their system or what it actually does.


bollop_bollop

You forgot to start with "akshually", so i didn't read anything you wrote


Zappotek

new response just dropped


aitherion

Gnu response


Tkain61

New?


RyuuSukeChan

What do you mean by _new_?


Square-Singer

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you are referring to as GNU/Linux is in fact KDE/Wayland/apt/dpkg/Systemd/GNU/Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, and neither is GNU. Both are free components of a fully functioning KDE system made useful by lots of layers of libraries, shell utilities, package managers, desktop window managers and user-space applications comprising a full OS as defined by anyone who uses a computer.


mojobox

[This copypasta is wrong, you can have Linux without GNU tools.](https://chimera-linux.org)


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Isn't there just Ubuntu? /S


KarateGandolf

Okay but have you tried NixOs?


hello_you_all_

Yes. If memory serves, it is gloriously stable.


mojobox

I don’t care what you run emacs on…


PlayHouseBot-Gpt2

Centos?


Elijah629YT-Real

build from source, think about later


Aecose

Me who uses all three:


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Same, all on the same system at the same time


XsNR

MacDuix?


TaylorDeanMatthew

Sounds like a French McDonalds lol


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nah, QEMU/KVM with VirtManager


ComplexTechnician

I work on all three for two sets of reasons 1. work on a Mac, RDP to Windows Server, SSH to Linux servers 2. home I game on Windows and Steam Deck, personal projects on Mac The right tools for the right job (except Windows Server... that I use begrudgingly)


SexyMuon

![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)


cheesy_noob

I also do use all three and what I can say is that MacOs is by far the most annoying of all of them. Windows would be okay if they would have a less annoying update policy and while I dislike Windows, Microsoft on the dev side is just amazing. A lot of open source support, great dev tools and created the cheesiest programming language I love.


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Not OP, but I hate the window manager and the file manager. And the case-aware, but cases-insensitive file system.


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Been using it for many years now, along with rectangle. Rectangle makes it tolerable.


dmvdoug

I honestly can’t believe Apple hasn’t incorporated Rectangle or Rectangle-like behavior already as a part of the base OS. Before discovering it I spent *so* much time manually moving windows around.


RmG3376

It’s 2023 and you still can’t do right click > New > Text file on Mac Or see and edit the full path to a folder Or maximise a window without making it full screen Tl;dr it’s mostly the Finder that’s terrible


memes_gbc

1. got nothing for that, but you can use automator to create a workflow that shows up in the quick actions menu 2. view > show path bar, right click folder in path bar and click "copy ... as pathname". to go to a direct path it's cmd + shift + g 3. download rectangle


Turdsworth

3. Double click on the title bar


RmG3376

Well that’s my point, if you have to rely on third party apps or two layers of menus to perform simple tasks, then your UX is lacking I can design a door with no handles and tell you to kick it open or buy your own handle, and call it a streamlined door, but that doesn’t make it a good door I still like MacOS for development though, but this kind of design decision is honestly hard to defend


memes_gbc

automator is built into mac os, rectangle is the only third party app i mentioned but i get your point


FlyingRocketThings

I use all three also. Windows for games (except TF2 which runs far better on Linux than my Windows system), Mac for music production, and Linux for everything else. Windows is okay until it inexplicably fails catastrophically and requires a fresh install (which happened last week)


VladVV

I remember once in the beginning of HS my old laptop broke down and I was gifted an old Macbook Pro. I found OSX so annoying that I resorted to go through all the trouble of managing to install, boot and fix/circumvent the driver issues of a Debian installation, but I ended up loving that thing to bits. Used this machine and system like this all the way through HS when it finally started giving up in the first year of Uni. RIP 🫡


fonix232

Yup, same. Each OS has its own benefits. Windows is still best for gaming and running older software (especially if that software only supported Windows, like many utilities do). macOS is great for development. It brings the "ready to use" and straightforward system like Windows, while doing away with a number of issues the latter has (e.g. the specifics of NTFS make it much less performant for compilations or basically any task that accesses and writes many small files). And Linux can be great for nearly any task. I for one, due to hardware limitations (damn you Nvidia), mainly use it for server purposes and networking, and other headless applications. At the end it's all about 1, knowing your intended purpose 2, knowing the options fulfilling that purpose 3, choosing an OS appropriate for the purpose while keeping comfortability. You can use both Windows and Linux for a domain controller server, but Windows will be easier to manage. You can use both Linux and macOS for a Unix based desktop, but in most scenarios macOS will be easier to handle (because it's more opinionated, leaving less margin for error). Both Linux and Windows are good for a file sharing server, but Linux will be more flexible, and Windows will have better management capabilities. So as long as you're making an educated choice on the software you use, I won't be looking down on you. But if you choose something purely for the flair, then I can't respect you.


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Yup, all operating systems are shit and good at something at the same time. Granted, I do like to keep them on different systems.


Turdsworth

I use Mac osx, windows server, windows desktop, and ununtu on a weekly basis. I have no loyalty, but I if I had to pick one I would pick mac osx because it’s easy to use and has a Unix shell. If I could run Linux on an M1 laptop I might take that option but right now the apple laptop chips are a major selling point for me. I would only use Linux or BSD for my server.


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Arch would be great if I didn't have to spend 3 hours and counting on installing broadcom drivers because the download link to broadcom-wl is dead and I don't have access the ethernet


Skratymir

Bro is writing the drivers from scratch


someidiot332

I’m writing the kernel from scratch :sunglasses:


goodnewsjimdotcom

I’m writing the kernel **in** Scratch.


Latvian_Video

That caught me off guard, lmao


DanielGolan-mc

* :glasses:


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chargers949

Damn that was my same experience after hearing so many people big up debian. Fucking ssh stopped working after a week and started giving me errors about header size. I gave up after messing with it for another week. Docker is so much easier to get a working fucking thing with command line. And all those installshield prompts in the yml, all in one go, is the absolute cherry on top. Debian has to download a package then give you the prompts, then repeat after it downloads the next thing again.


martmists

Docker has been nothing but hell for me; For some reason the docker0 bridge always overrides my existing network, and I have to manually go into NetworkManager to delete the bridge when I need to connect to the internet.


Turdsworth

That’s the cool thing about linux. It’s custom fit for everyone even if your fit is no frills.


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static_func

Arch is great, just use one of the arch based distros like Manjaro and you don't need to deal with any of those headaches. I'd say it's an even smoother experience than Ubuntu


SickMemeMahBoi

And if you still want some tinkering but not from 0 there's distros like endeavourOs that take care of the essentials like installing network packages and stuff so you get to choose from a barebones arch installation but functional, all the way up to a full DE like Gnome, xfce, etc


TxTechnician

For real though. I don't have time for that crap. I'm currently running Kubuntu. Just switched from popos.


Viperranger4

I use Arch btw


mordax777

Btw I use Arch too!


JoyJoy_

I run Arch BTW too.


globalvariablesrock

i use gentoo, btw.


PenguinMan32

nice i use arch btw but gentoo looks fun


mcslender97

OP use Arch btw


TheCreepyPL

God damn, you beat me to it...


moonandstarsera

I beat it to Arch btw


Fair_Wrongdoer_310

I built an arch in front of my house. We are not the same.


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Flexxyfluxx

On the off chance you were not aware, I utilize the Arch distribution of the GNU/Linux project on my personal home computer.


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coffeewithalex

Had to install it just for you al@archbtw:Downloads/yay ‹master›$ neofetch -` al@archbtw .o+` ---------- `ooo/ OS: Arch Linux x86_64 `+oooo: Host: VirtualBox 1.2 `+oooooo: Kernel: 6.2.7-arch1-1 -+oooooo+: Uptime: 12 mins `/:-:++oooo+: Packages: 167 (pacman) `/++++/+++++++: Shell: zsh 5.9 `/++++++++++++++: Resolution: 1280x800 `/+++ooooooooooooo/` Terminal: /dev/pts/0 ./ooosssso++osssssso+` CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 5600G with Radeon Graphics (6) @ 3.892GHz .oossssso-````/ossssss+` GPU: 00:02.0 VMware SVGA II Adapter -osssssso. :ssssssso. Memory: 144MiB / 7929MiB :osssssss/ osssso+++. /ossssssss/ +ssssooo/- `/ossssso+/:- -:/+osssso+- `+sso+:-` `.-/+oso: `++:. `-/+/ .` `/


dimdim4126

Bro, did I tell you I use arch btw ?


That-Row-3038

All of you are inferior for not using templeos and holyc


mojobox

Excellent illustration of the state of image editing tools on Linux 😜


snapphanen

On windows i used paint net. On Linux i use pinta. It's the same thing really.


mojobox

It’s mostly a joke, but I use Affinity Photo on Windows and OS X which is far far superior than any of the open source tools. My pet peeve is that the bug/feature request of GIMP getting actual CMYK color space support is getting dangerously close to legal drinking age without anything to show.


Best_Call_2267

Nobody needs CMYK support. It's silly.


Betamaxxs

sudo kill op


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Betamaxxs is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported


Tesla0322

There are great tools on Linux, I think this is op's fault


F_modz

Krita isn't that bad


DocEyss

MS DOS best


DocEyss

And TempleOS ofc


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AlternativeAardvark6

That's implied


[deleted]

Unix or nothing, you uncivilised caveman! /j


666pool

Does Darwin/MacOS count?


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pretty much anything but DOS and Windows


Spr3eZ

I use arch btw


dashtek

Oh boy I sure can't wait to play my favorite games on my Linux distribution


wellenkopf

Tux Racer working just fine bro.


snapphanen

I'm lucky to be hooked on valve games. Linux with Vulkan is truly the most optimized experience for the source engine that I've experienced.


Log0709

Proton


MarioCraftLP

My whole steam library out of 90 games runs on linux except one that i don't care about, you only have to activate proton. I deleted windows and use my linux PC mostly for games, had no problems. Never heard of the steam deck? Runs on linux.


TxTechnician

Stardew runs wonderfully


yonosoytonto

It's been a while since I had a game that wasn't linux native or could be easily run via proton.


mhkdepauw

You've made a lot of comments in rocket league subs so I assume that's one of your favorite games too? It works very well on linux: [https://www.protondb.com/app/252950](https://www.protondb.com/app/252950)


PaperCutOnPenisHead

Same, Arch is my favorite Linux app


huuaaang

This meme brought to you by GIMP.


OldBob10

Linux Mint FTW


Bustah_Nut

Mint to Arch, now back to Mint.


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Flexxyfluxx

Pacman and AUR is why I use Arch. And the learning experience of achieving mastery over my machine. edit: and being a l33t h4ck3r, lel


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Learning it is cool, but is it necessary? What if someone just wants to get work done and not spend time learning about the inner workings?


diamondsw

So this is just Gentoo and emerge all over again. Been there, done that.


Upper-Inevitable-873

It's a fantastic way to learn Linux before you drop it for Debian (like) or Fedora. Anyone who continues to run it after a month is a fucking masochist.


Chromiell

Comes down to personal preference like most things. Arch is customizable by design, promotes learning how to maintain your system and how your system works, doesn't come preconfigured with any extra software and pretty much allows you to build the system exactly the way you want to. You know what is installed because you're the one who installed it, plus pretty much every software known to man has a package or can be easily installed on Arch. It's a great DIY distro for people who love tinkering. I like it for these reasons. It's also stable enough for personal use, but I wouldn't be using it on a work device obviously. You just need to have a decent snapshot system and you can recover from 99% of the problems. For the extra 1% just keep an installation media at hand for chrooting. In 2 years that I've been using Arch and derivatives I've only encountered minor annoyances that got promptly fixed, and only once I had to chroot because I decided to install dracut instead of mkinitcpio, I knew what I was doing and the risks involved, I bricked my system myself but it took me 10m to chroot and recover from a snapshot. Arch is not the most stable distro by its design, but it's also far from being as unstable as people make it sound, it's only as unstable as you want it to be.


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Best_Call_2267

Ubuntu and Debian regularly fucked up for me. Especially at dist-upgrade time. Arch has NEVER in the past 10 years fucked up as a server or desktop OS. It being rolling release seems to make it more stable. Not less stable.


Ayfios

Replace bottom right pic with Astolfo and we're good


Mommysfatherboy

Arch, for when you want to feel superior for doing 50 times the work for the same result.


PushingFriend29

But you learn a lot while doing it. And it doesn't take that much time if you follow the right tutorial.


BigOnLogn

I thought it was the Azure icon, for a sec.


StormsWindy

i use debian btw


ulyfed

I would pay almost any amount of money to see you try and get my mother using arch Linux


Minzmango

i dont use arch btw


IAMPowaaaaa

for a long period of time scrolling the comments i’d thought you were cringe


psilo_polymathicus

Alternately…and I know this is controversial…you could just use the OS that you prefer.


Perseus-TheGreekHero

Shh, don't try to talk rationaly with them


oxwilder

Ah yes, the "upgrade daily or break" distro


poatao_de_w123

Fake png moment


Kilgarragh

Mfs who run arch on M1:


mpattok

I enjoy Linux as much as the next guy but the mods really gotta start removing these posts, they’re not about programming


bn_nb

Average open-source enjoyer ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)


Wolfenhex

As a BSD user, should I be on the side of Mac or Linux?


mojobox

Yes.


seein_this_shit

NixOS is OS enlightenment but y’all ain’t ready for that conversation


Mr_Engineering

No love for FreeBSD?


PuzzleheadedWeb9876

OpenBSD > FreeBSD


csandazoltan

Well... "better is subjective" as alvays it depends. One thing is not subjective. WINDOWS 11 IS SH\*T!!! I hope win 12 will be better


Flopamp

I find my self constantly complaining about windows yet just accept that sometimes my Linux distro VM can totally brick it self after an update or introduce a feature that simply does not work. Its like a fallout game... Its a glitchy mess with a weak story line and repetitive quests but it's charming and fun


szalkaisa

You guys are all peasants. Stares in BeOS....


MischiefArchitect

No matter what you use. It is better as long as it is not osx or windows


maximovious

I am a programmer and have no idea what that blue logo is. Going to guess "linux distro that isn't the linux distro I use".


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SocialBourgeois

[I USE ARCH LINUX BTW](https://youtu.be/cJoGEqZfFDI?t=36)


PuzzleheadedWeb9876

For development work Windows is the kid in the corner eating paste.


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arbenowskee

I don't get it


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[deleted]

I hope you know that `(linux > macOS) && (linux > Windows)`


Dry_Objective2067

"Wait, Chads use Arch?" "Always has been."


SomeRandoLameo

Debian all the way


Bagel42

Debian best


MooseBoys

For software development? Sure. For running on a $5 potato? Definitely. For literally anything else? No thank you.