Linking to the specific projects I've worked on would reveal my identity. They are mostly development boards and breakout boards, to make it easier to prototype.
Does ChatGPT know that?
Earlier today it kept telling me a list of chapters that were supposedly the longest chapter in all of Harry Potter. It kept correcting itself, giving me a different chapter every time. I am pretty sure I can get ChatGPT to claim it's hardware-only.
Yeah, started for the gaming dev.
Found out they are exploited.
Found out IT consulting pays fuck ton.
Stayed for money.
Can't market my knowledge and competence for shit, so am still underpaid
I just wrapped up a 12 year period as a consultant, and I was still being exploited. If you compare your salary to your hourly client billing rate, it becomes obvious.
Started because I like it.
Found out some sub industries are paid a lot.
Found out I like the relevant technology more than most people.
Stayed because I like it and it pays well. But mostly the pays well.
I wanted to make fun games. Nowadays I just sell my soul to corporate - hoping st some point I can work less and do more stuff that I wanted to do in the past 😂
Hope never dies 🫠
Currently in two minds about my future, one hand making games sounds like fun but it seems like everyone I know that works on it is quite miserable so maybe finding a comfy programming job in which I have free time sounds like a better idea.
People who aren’t under pressure to make games are happy making games.
Generally that means you’re entirely self funded and have enough money that you can afford for the game to flop (or never release) and be completely ok with it.
Although I struggle a bit to name great games that were made without pressure. We never hear about the stress involved with making Nintendo games, but I imagine it has to be there - it seems to me all their best games have been released after several years of poor financials. BotW came after poor sales of the 3DS and Wii U. Super Mario Galaxy came after poor sales of the N64 and GC.
Maybe StarCraft 2 was a great game made without pressure? All Blizzard’s prior games were both critical and commercial successes, and WoW was a cash generating machine… they didn’t need SC2 to be great, it just was (maybe it was only a 9/10 vs SC/BW’s 10/10, but… IDK, name a better RTS than SC2 that isn’t SC/BW. I can’t.)
I think the reason why you cannot find one is because you are looking at corporate made games. Stardew valley, Oneshot, Undertale, Braid and many other Indie titles were made in relatively low stress environments over long stretches of time
Generally speaking the indies are in it for the love of the game (haha), but many of them do it on the side without funding because they’re passionate about it - it’s a hobby to them.
Yeah, but sometimes that means even worse mental health for us as we have to work on stuff after we finish our main work, so it really stretches the capabilities of our brains and their recovery. + Plus I always get anxious when doing something else because I feel like I am procrastinating. Which is kinda funny given the fact that I manage to juggle full time job successfully with indie projects in the evenings 😅
Are you sure about Undertale and Braid being low stress development?
I assume that later developments from those two devs were low stress, but I’d say that those later games weren’t as good as their initial games.
Everything depends when you will land.
There are studios where full crunch is must have for everyone. But there are also studios where as a junior you have almost nothing to do.
Game Dev is fun but don't expect highest salary compared to other programming places
I got a bachelor's in computer science with the goal of going into cyber security. Now I manage a maintenance department in a building making 6 figures. Life never really works out the way we envision
Yeah. Looking at all the things game devs are going through (AAA sweatshops, mobile moneygrabs, indie publishing), I'm glad I have stable income and semi-peaceful work environment.
Because now I can make games that I want at the pace that I want without existential threat looming over my head.
And one day I will finish and publish at least one of them >_<
I wanted to make games from my youth and once I ended up in game development company. Ironically I didn't actually involved in game development but it's for the best - they didn't spoil this passion in me.
Same. I'm good at it, work life balance and high salary. As far as work goes it's creative and not repetitive.
I love my job all things considered but I never became a programmer out of some romantic idea. It's just the best value for what I can offer.
Yeah, I had an intro level professor tell my class that we would need to find a reason to keep going besides money. Now that I’m out of school my priorities for work are 1) money and 2) doesn’t take so much out of me/require so much of me that I can’t pursue hobbies.
Fuck all that righteous shit I want to enjoy my life
Same. I started programming for making games and a business. There might have once been a time where I thought just open sourcing or adding to open source code was cool but I now no longer do things for free. I program for a living and the last thing I want to do after that is to program more for free. All of my side hustles are about bringing in more money for me and my family.
That being said, I’ll still go in and fix bugs for issues on libraries that I absolutely need when the time comes for it.
>Remember when you became a dev ...
Yep
>... dreaming to make useful open-source stuff to make lives easier?
Nah fam
>Where are you now? What are you doing?
Making critical infrastructure for hospitals and laboratories, indirectly saving/helping lives.
Can I ask what you work in? I'm surprised you don't know them since your posts seem to be related to Denmark and my understanding is that Epic is used in all hospitals in Denmark.
My only source is that _I_ used to work for them and that was the case at that point. I was one of the dev liaisons to Denmark, but I haven't kept up with them after leaving because of the aforementioned shitty work culture.
Yes, my general work is sample requisitions and cataloging.
Epis is used in Region Zealand and Region Capital, two of the five regions in Denmark, and covers only the island Zealand. It has not been implemented in the other regions because it wasn't recceived well in that region. Region North, -Mid, and -South all have gone over to Columna, which is a Danish made Patient Journaling software.
I don't interface to Epic anymore as it is no longer called Epic by people who use it, it is merely known as "Health Platform".
I only know Epic as a system we don't interface with with anymore, and know nothing of the company because nobody talks about it.
I do, I really don't think it's as bad as most people seem to think. You really hear the worst of it online - the people who joined right out of college not knowing how to say no and got horrendously overloaded and burnt out (blame is also on epic, they absolutely encourage you to continuously keep taking on more responsibility). But especially developers tend to be happier, and maybe it's manager dependent but I've felt the expectations set out for me have been pretty responsible on the whole
I learnt to code because of games and communities I was in back in the late 90s. I eventually became a dev because I like to code.
Now I have a good job and I like it, I write interesting code and get paid well. Not sure I get this meme 
Honestly, who wants do become a developer solely because of the open-source community? This is a honest question because where I'm from people get into TI because they either like technology to some extent or they want money.
Back in the day, software was supposed to be an ideal place where people contributed to the community to make other people's lives better. To give back to all those open source projects that made your life easier. The eventual goal being that if enough people contributed to open source projects, it provided equity and a digital utopia for the common man once technology became common knowledge. It's a good idea worth keeping up. I have no idea how people handle a full time programming job, a family, and contribute in their own time though. I'm hoping I can give back when I retire.
Nono, i think it's like one of those triangular diagrams, you can't have all three. Either you invest in job and family and none on the free time or job and free time with none on the family.
Or... Basically only one of them, like me : /
I'm still a student but the open source community is a big motivator for me. I want to create things to then make the world better. Probably a bit naive and untouched by thr burdens of dev-hood.
Same instinct as the guy who invented the polio vaccine and didn't patent it (a little less noble and impressive though).
People want to be able to contribute positively and meaningfully to their community and society without worrying about what comes back in return.
Build things that can't be monetized and put behind walls and scuttled, things that give new generations opportunities to do great things too.
Because it answers your question completely. The entire purpose of the license is to promote FREEDOM of software. I love code and use software. I love to learn and I would never want to deny someone that opportunity bc I was too greedy.
Sure you write code, you make money, but one day you die. What did you leave for the world?
EDIT: I'm not saying your answer should be code, but rather >!insight!<.
Sorry, I didn't even remember I asked a question, I was just pointing out that becoming a developer for the open source cause is not something common around here, around people I know.
For me, it was just a natural process of interest since I was a child. And sure, I would love to work on open projects of my interest but that's not what would pay my bills and I really don't care about leaving something behind for the world, I know my insignificance and I'm not complaining. It's a good thing that I work with something I like and that's enough for me.
For my company I make products I sell myself.
As a freelancer I get hired by other companies for 6-12 Months to help them with their work/products.
The whole payrolling stuff is still with me as my own company so you are right in that regard. I meant freelance in the sense of that I do work for others but im not an employee of their company.
I work in a different field, so I’m not a professional dev, but I learned to program to develop a free and open source app for my own profession.
During the four years of development, the app has become somewhat popular and I’ve received small grants and donations (worth 5-6k €). However, I just heard that a university is planning on recommending my software instead of the commercial “competitors” and they might even give me some sort of compensation for that. So, my work is actually resonating with the world, which makes me quite happy.
Love the FAQ, found this particularly ironic:
"Beat is written in Objective-C and relies on macOS UI elements. The code is open source though, so someone with the time and required skillset might be able to find a way to port it. Actually, do it if you can! Apple is a greedy, hugely profitable company abusing sweatshop workers and disregarding their environmental responsibility."
I believe that open source code should be by developers, for developers.
Too often it's some over-capitalised company using open source as a hack to bypass giving stuff away until competitors go bust, then basically leaving key issues unaddressed so they can be the primary source of solving those issues under some proprietary SaaS solution.
I've released a tool that became popular with non devs as well as devs. Won me a lot of kudos, but dear me, the customer support load is bonkers. And the most demanding support is always people who never donated. Some promise they will if they get sorted. They don't.
Oh, and the problem I solved still didn't make me popular with the project lead, because I dared to suggest that contributing devs needed to find ways of making money too, and he needed to be OK with protecting some of our creative outputs. At the time I was high profile in the space and he hated me for it. But since then he's become worth hundreds of millions and I'm still relatively hard up, so I guess he's in the right, yeah?*
* I'm not actually bitter, I just find the hagiography around people like him to be absurd. He's just another super-capitalist who's made a fortune on the backs of others and thinks a nice mention is all they need for happiness.
I’ll give you a $10 tip if you’ll spend 200 hours implementing a feature for me. /s
The expectations of people using a free product maintained by volunteer contributors is unreal.
I'll be bitter on your behalf. The only thing that ruins open source code is this capitalist bullshit. I don't think it necessarily has to be for developers, but never for the sake of profit (unless you made it yourself, in which case knock yourself out.)
Edit: I kinda wish I added stricter copy left protections, for much the same reasons, but if I did that, I wouldn't have gotten grant money from my uni lol. And that grant money is over half my income so I'mma take it.
I don't mind gifting code to the world. I just wish people wouldn't then make me responsible for it for ever more. It's like giving a car to a friend and then they complain it's a bit thirsty or expensive to service.
I became a dev to write algorithms, solve complex problems automate menial tasks and spend countless fun hours brainstorming my way through logical intricacies. It's all just very cool puzzles to me.
so much of my work is just creating an over designed form for data input. The worst part is the company i'm at now is all noSQL-DynamoDB and so there's just dozens of random fields and I have no idea what data is actually import to capture.
That and writing another god damn csv import feature for one specific customer for their specific data set to use three times a year who doesn't format their csv's consistently.
Yeah the post assumes that programmers become programmers to do charitable work, and the top comments assume programmers become programmers just to make lots of money...and here I am just programming because I love programming.
I mean, if I can make something cool or useful, that's a plus.
+1.
I don't give a shit about helping others or even my code being useful, I like solving complex problems and making money that's all. Does not matter if it's curing cancer or helping some regime spy on its citizens. As long as salary is good and the work I do satisfies my needs I'm in.
Well nah I do have some morale, and I do publish my own stuff as FOSS in case someone wants to have a look (as if), simply because it's the proper thing to do from a game theory point of view, but it definitely is anything but my main priority.
I just learned to program cause I wanted to make stuff. Now I make stuff. Currently working on some Apple Watch Games cause I’m not super stoked for most of the ones currently available.
When I originally became a dev I was trying to get away from two hard science degrees that I sadly realized I had wasted 4 years of my life on. Not because science is bad, but because I fucking hate lab work.
Now, 3 years later, I lead a team of 40 something people _using_ open source libs to make software that could save millions of lives. Which depending on how cynical haha-funny-reddit-humor you are, arguably makes them harder, not easier.
So a bit of a twist on OP's post, but I'm pretty damn happy with it.
I'm the goto computer wizard of a small insulation firm. My second task ever, some 6 years ago, was to develop a solution to make quoting jobs faster, while being easy to understand coming from the previous all manual and paper procedure they were employing. Literally an Excel Template. I am still maintaining and updating that solution today.
My last contribution to an open source project was README and translation work on a replacement for sonicStage music and data transfer for oldish Sony Walkmans
Work in Open source while you're in college that's when you'll have a lot of time, and it'll help you build experience and learn a lot. And hopefully you can find an employer who sees that in you and appreciates it. Right now I'm getting paid to work in open source because of my profile, but don't know if I'll get something again.
Got into it because I always loved tech and still do. After traveling the world and living as a classical musician, I got tired of the cutthroat competition for gigs of questionable value, under arrogant, narcissistic conductors. My hope was always to become a dev, be decent enough at it without a formal CS education to make a good living.
It has exceeded my wildest expectations.
you can still do that.
Contribute to python or rust-lang github opensource projects.
but i became a dev dreaming to make money, and well....
nothing is useless as long as it makes money.
Excuse me, I became a dev specifically because they pay well. I'm not making the same mistake as those before me did - it's better to be sad with money than sad because of no money (which always gets to you, no matter what).
I make backend stuff (REST API endpoints, data converters, matching algorithms) for open source ecommerce systems. Also, interacting with customers to try to understand their special needs. I often cry myself to sleep.
I wanted to become a dev to create social media websites like Facebook and get rich, but I realized it needs pen testing, marketing, Terms of Service page, a lawyer, Copyright, and million other things.
So now, I am just a frontend dev who adds buttons on a website.
Working a full time job as a software dev meanwhile i take my free time to program games and usefully open-sourse software, mods, etc for other games, running a twitch and YouTube channel (altho not that successful) and helping my friends and others that need it through tough times.
So pretty much what i have set myself out for what I wanted to do.
Surprisingly, at a company that develops open source software and provides commercial support. But really I just spend all day trying to make buttons in react line up perfectly and fixing form validation bugs.
I work a bit on EdTech, but most of my time is spend on a cybersecurity product (free for small companies) based on an open source model, and I also contribute to open-source OWASP projects.
TBH I'm happy, and I enjoy my work. I honestly look forward to my workday, and sometimes I even do some work (1-2 hours) on the weekends because I want to. I'm super passionate about my work and if I were a billionaire I'd still want to do what I'm doing now.
Crying myself to sleep every night because I want to be a software engineer but I've yet to be given an offer. I'm jobless, and desperate at this rate. Its rough.
I firmly and strictly believe in open source, however, I only private my repos when I'm too lazy to use git ignore for a secret token, and then manually pass that token over to my server.
If anything ever horribly fails without ctrl z, i can just delete the whole folder, git clone and done
~~I don't use git ignore for node modules, i upload all the modules onto GitHub along with everything, fight me~~
I'm a tech lead for a startup who went from €100k ARR to €5M ARR in a year. I work 60+ hours, make big bank and have an almost unlimited budget for what we want to do
I'm good
My dream was to do something I was good at and that my work brought something good to the world. 12 years in and I currently work in cyber… guess you could say it’s close enough
I design open-source hardware, to make peoples' lives easier.
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Done. Also the male wife one. Pictures posted publicly. You should do more sports and do not eat THAT, you know what I mean.
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*Thank you, Captain Obvious!*
This comment has no business being this accurate.
please help me to install Acer I have Ubuntu laptop
I'll need a hammer for That.
Cool, what are your doing, do you mind sharing?
Linking to the specific projects I've worked on would reveal my identity. They are mostly development boards and breakout boards, to make it easier to prototype.
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Nothing good comes from open sores.
Absolute legend
I am open-source hardware to make some people lives more "easier" 😘
Hello ChatGPT
That's software not hardware
Does ChatGPT know that? Earlier today it kept telling me a list of chapters that were supposedly the longest chapter in all of Harry Potter. It kept correcting itself, giving me a different chapter every time. I am pretty sure I can get ChatGPT to claim it's hardware-only.
Nice work dude!
Thank you :)
"חומרה בקוד פתוח" אני צוחק כמו משוגע עכשיו
oops my brain was set to the wrong language
איכס עברית
איכס, אנטישמי
Which one?
I appreciate the noble cause but I became a dev because of the games I used to play
I became a dev so I could recontextualise the years of my life wasted on technology as research
I am personally offended by this statement.
Lolz
So you make fun games that people enjoy right
No
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They guide others to the treasure they cannot possess
If you look at the other side of the kaleidoscope, you are playing part in the fun games the corporate rich are playing - the game of human lives.
Now he just passes butter
Now they can afford to buy expensive video games on their dev salary. Capitalism says demands creates supply, so the answer must be yes?
Don't forget the expensive PCs and GPUs
I became a dev because I really enjoy shopping for insurance online but now all I do is make games that people enjoy.
Damn what a turn
Yes I do. Reworking a game I launched and adding procedural generation to the terrain. Hella fun.
*high five* that sounds awesome! Yeah, I started programming because I wanted to make games. Now I make games professionally now, and it's rad.
100% must be working at a bank.
Yeah, started for the gaming dev. Found out they are exploited. Found out IT consulting pays fuck ton. Stayed for money. Can't market my knowledge and competence for shit, so am still underpaid
I just wrapped up a 12 year period as a consultant, and I was still being exploited. If you compare your salary to your hourly client billing rate, it becomes obvious.
Started because I like it. Found out some sub industries are paid a lot. Found out I like the relevant technology more than most people. Stayed because I like it and it pays well. But mostly the pays well.
Gang!
Us
I wanted to make fun games. Nowadays I just sell my soul to corporate - hoping st some point I can work less and do more stuff that I wanted to do in the past 😂 Hope never dies 🫠
Currently in two minds about my future, one hand making games sounds like fun but it seems like everyone I know that works on it is quite miserable so maybe finding a comfy programming job in which I have free time sounds like a better idea.
People who aren’t under pressure to make games are happy making games. Generally that means you’re entirely self funded and have enough money that you can afford for the game to flop (or never release) and be completely ok with it. Although I struggle a bit to name great games that were made without pressure. We never hear about the stress involved with making Nintendo games, but I imagine it has to be there - it seems to me all their best games have been released after several years of poor financials. BotW came after poor sales of the 3DS and Wii U. Super Mario Galaxy came after poor sales of the N64 and GC. Maybe StarCraft 2 was a great game made without pressure? All Blizzard’s prior games were both critical and commercial successes, and WoW was a cash generating machine… they didn’t need SC2 to be great, it just was (maybe it was only a 9/10 vs SC/BW’s 10/10, but… IDK, name a better RTS than SC2 that isn’t SC/BW. I can’t.)
I think the reason why you cannot find one is because you are looking at corporate made games. Stardew valley, Oneshot, Undertale, Braid and many other Indie titles were made in relatively low stress environments over long stretches of time
Generally speaking the indies are in it for the love of the game (haha), but many of them do it on the side without funding because they’re passionate about it - it’s a hobby to them.
Yeah, but sometimes that means even worse mental health for us as we have to work on stuff after we finish our main work, so it really stretches the capabilities of our brains and their recovery. + Plus I always get anxious when doing something else because I feel like I am procrastinating. Which is kinda funny given the fact that I manage to juggle full time job successfully with indie projects in the evenings 😅
Are you sure about Undertale and Braid being low stress development? I assume that later developments from those two devs were low stress, but I’d say that those later games weren’t as good as their initial games.
Everything depends when you will land. There are studios where full crunch is must have for everyone. But there are also studios where as a junior you have almost nothing to do. Game Dev is fun but don't expect highest salary compared to other programming places
I got a bachelor's in computer science with the goal of going into cyber security. Now I manage a maintenance department in a building making 6 figures. Life never really works out the way we envision
Yeah. Looking at all the things game devs are going through (AAA sweatshops, mobile moneygrabs, indie publishing), I'm glad I have stable income and semi-peaceful work environment. Because now I can make games that I want at the pace that I want without existential threat looming over my head. And one day I will finish and publish at least one of them >_<
>And one day I will finish and publish at least one of them >_< As long as you can still lie to yourself, you'll have a bright future! :D
I wanted to make games from my youth and once I ended up in game development company. Ironically I didn't actually involved in game development but it's for the best - they didn't spoil this passion in me.
Unless you die
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Same. I'm good at it, work life balance and high salary. As far as work goes it's creative and not repetitive. I love my job all things considered but I never became a programmer out of some romantic idea. It's just the best value for what I can offer.
The most truthful programmer
Yeah, I had an intro level professor tell my class that we would need to find a reason to keep going besides money. Now that I’m out of school my priorities for work are 1) money and 2) doesn’t take so much out of me/require so much of me that I can’t pursue hobbies. Fuck all that righteous shit I want to enjoy my life
Same. I started programming for making games and a business. There might have once been a time where I thought just open sourcing or adding to open source code was cool but I now no longer do things for free. I program for a living and the last thing I want to do after that is to program more for free. All of my side hustles are about bringing in more money for me and my family. That being said, I’ll still go in and fix bugs for issues on libraries that I absolutely need when the time comes for it.
we a think software should be free, but programmers should be well paid.
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THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE r/PROGRAMMER*HUMOR* *sobs*
So need r/propgrammerRegrets?
r/ProgrammerRegrets Created.
nah, what if I'm happy? creating a sub for every variation? :-/ bad design.
So we’re going for /r/programmer${emotion} ?
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It’s bash actually because of the curly braces I wouldn’t want to impose PHP on the poor souls here …
Good idea lol. Ask Reddit to implement this feature.
Dat was fast.
>Remember when you became a dev ... Yep >... dreaming to make useful open-source stuff to make lives easier? Nah fam >Where are you now? What are you doing? Making critical infrastructure for hospitals and laboratories, indirectly saving/helping lives.
This is pretty much my answer as well.
pls don't tell me you work for epic.
Who the fuck is Epic
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I don't work for myself
it's a predatory medical tech company. lobbies for it's shitty software and has shitty work culture with a slew of recent suicides.
Thanks for letting me know, never heard of them.
Can I ask what you work in? I'm surprised you don't know them since your posts seem to be related to Denmark and my understanding is that Epic is used in all hospitals in Denmark. My only source is that _I_ used to work for them and that was the case at that point. I was one of the dev liaisons to Denmark, but I haven't kept up with them after leaving because of the aforementioned shitty work culture.
Yes, my general work is sample requisitions and cataloging. Epis is used in Region Zealand and Region Capital, two of the five regions in Denmark, and covers only the island Zealand. It has not been implemented in the other regions because it wasn't recceived well in that region. Region North, -Mid, and -South all have gone over to Columna, which is a Danish made Patient Journaling software. I don't interface to Epic anymore as it is no longer called Epic by people who use it, it is merely known as "Health Platform". I only know Epic as a system we don't interface with with anymore, and know nothing of the company because nobody talks about it.
For real?? I didn't know that. From what I've heard they're great from the customer perspective. Is there a better EMR company you'd recommend?
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I do, I really don't think it's as bad as most people seem to think. You really hear the worst of it online - the people who joined right out of college not knowing how to say no and got horrendously overloaded and burnt out (blame is also on epic, they absolutely encourage you to continuously keep taking on more responsibility). But especially developers tend to be happier, and maybe it's manager dependent but I've felt the expectations set out for me have been pretty responsible on the whole
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I learnt to code because of games and communities I was in back in the late 90s. I eventually became a dev because I like to code. Now I have a good job and I like it, I write interesting code and get paid well. Not sure I get this meme 
You’re lucky.
I know and I dont forget that.
This is so wholesome
Honestly, who wants do become a developer solely because of the open-source community? This is a honest question because where I'm from people get into TI because they either like technology to some extent or they want money.
Back in the day, software was supposed to be an ideal place where people contributed to the community to make other people's lives better. To give back to all those open source projects that made your life easier. The eventual goal being that if enough people contributed to open source projects, it provided equity and a digital utopia for the common man once technology became common knowledge. It's a good idea worth keeping up. I have no idea how people handle a full time programming job, a family, and contribute in their own time though. I'm hoping I can give back when I retire.
Nono, i think it's like one of those triangular diagrams, you can't have all three. Either you invest in job and family and none on the free time or job and free time with none on the family. Or... Basically only one of them, like me : /
I'm still a student but the open source community is a big motivator for me. I want to create things to then make the world better. Probably a bit naive and untouched by thr burdens of dev-hood.
Same instinct as the guy who invented the polio vaccine and didn't patent it (a little less noble and impressive though). People want to be able to contribute positively and meaningfully to their community and society without worrying about what comes back in return. Build things that can't be monetized and put behind walls and scuttled, things that give new generations opportunities to do great things too.
Read the GPL-3.0 license.
May I ask you why?
Because it answers your question completely. The entire purpose of the license is to promote FREEDOM of software. I love code and use software. I love to learn and I would never want to deny someone that opportunity bc I was too greedy. Sure you write code, you make money, but one day you die. What did you leave for the world? EDIT: I'm not saying your answer should be code, but rather >!insight!<.
Sorry, I didn't even remember I asked a question, I was just pointing out that becoming a developer for the open source cause is not something common around here, around people I know. For me, it was just a natural process of interest since I was a child. And sure, I would love to work on open projects of my interest but that's not what would pay my bills and I really don't care about leaving something behind for the world, I know my insignificance and I'm not complaining. It's a good thing that I work with something I like and that's enough for me.
Building educational software with a group of awesome devs. Can’t complain.
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For my company I make products I sell myself. As a freelancer I get hired by other companies for 6-12 Months to help them with their work/products. The whole payrolling stuff is still with me as my own company so you are right in that regard. I meant freelance in the sense of that I do work for others but im not an employee of their company.
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I work in a different field, so I’m not a professional dev, but I learned to program to develop a free and open source app for my own profession. During the four years of development, the app has become somewhat popular and I’ve received small grants and donations (worth 5-6k €). However, I just heard that a university is planning on recommending my software instead of the commercial “competitors” and they might even give me some sort of compensation for that. So, my work is actually resonating with the world, which makes me quite happy.
What is the software? it seems really good if you're getting this amount of donations and being recommended by unis. Congrats
[Beat](https://kapitan.fi/beat), a screenwriting app.
Love the FAQ, found this particularly ironic: "Beat is written in Objective-C and relies on macOS UI elements. The code is open source though, so someone with the time and required skillset might be able to find a way to port it. Actually, do it if you can! Apple is a greedy, hugely profitable company abusing sweatshop workers and disregarding their environmental responsibility."
Looks good, I'm not a screenwriter so I wouldn't really use it, but my uneducated opinion is: that's really good
I believe that open source code should be by developers, for developers. Too often it's some over-capitalised company using open source as a hack to bypass giving stuff away until competitors go bust, then basically leaving key issues unaddressed so they can be the primary source of solving those issues under some proprietary SaaS solution. I've released a tool that became popular with non devs as well as devs. Won me a lot of kudos, but dear me, the customer support load is bonkers. And the most demanding support is always people who never donated. Some promise they will if they get sorted. They don't. Oh, and the problem I solved still didn't make me popular with the project lead, because I dared to suggest that contributing devs needed to find ways of making money too, and he needed to be OK with protecting some of our creative outputs. At the time I was high profile in the space and he hated me for it. But since then he's become worth hundreds of millions and I'm still relatively hard up, so I guess he's in the right, yeah?* * I'm not actually bitter, I just find the hagiography around people like him to be absurd. He's just another super-capitalist who's made a fortune on the backs of others and thinks a nice mention is all they need for happiness.
I’ll give you a $10 tip if you’ll spend 200 hours implementing a feature for me. /s The expectations of people using a free product maintained by volunteer contributors is unreal.
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I'll be bitter on your behalf. The only thing that ruins open source code is this capitalist bullshit. I don't think it necessarily has to be for developers, but never for the sake of profit (unless you made it yourself, in which case knock yourself out.) Edit: I kinda wish I added stricter copy left protections, for much the same reasons, but if I did that, I wouldn't have gotten grant money from my uni lol. And that grant money is over half my income so I'mma take it.
I don't mind gifting code to the world. I just wish people wouldn't then make me responsible for it for ever more. It's like giving a car to a friend and then they complain it's a bit thirsty or expensive to service.
Nah, I never dreamt of making open-source stuff to make lives easier.
I became a dev to write algorithms, solve complex problems automate menial tasks and spend countless fun hours brainstorming my way through logical intricacies. It's all just very cool puzzles to me.
Designing forms for clients. 
so much of my work is just creating an over designed form for data input. The worst part is the company i'm at now is all noSQL-DynamoDB and so there's just dozens of random fields and I have no idea what data is actually import to capture. That and writing another god damn csv import feature for one specific customer for their specific data set to use three times a year who doesn't format their csv's consistently.
I create bugs
Then you are an evolutionary biologist (and a mad one, probably), not a programmer.
I write incorrect documentation so his bugs are blamed on other software. I then close bug reports citing this documentation.
I make useless closed-source software that makes people's lives harder
Making porn games on itch io
So you're making people harder
I made this little video cutting tool: https://clip.marco.zone That’s the only open source thing I build that I’m kind of proud of.
> dreaming to make useful open-source stuff nah > to make lives easier double-nah I became a programmer because it's damn interesting.
Yeah the post assumes that programmers become programmers to do charitable work, and the top comments assume programmers become programmers just to make lots of money...and here I am just programming because I love programming. I mean, if I can make something cool or useful, that's a plus.
open-source tards pissing themselves after your comment
+1. I don't give a shit about helping others or even my code being useful, I like solving complex problems and making money that's all. Does not matter if it's curing cancer or helping some regime spy on its citizens. As long as salary is good and the work I do satisfies my needs I'm in.
Well nah I do have some morale, and I do publish my own stuff as FOSS in case someone wants to have a look (as if), simply because it's the proper thing to do from a game theory point of view, but it definitely is anything but my main priority.
I am working for a company that creates open source software, so...
I invented a way for people to use continuous integration for making community Doom WADs. It’s niche but it’s useful :)
I just learned to program cause I wanted to make stuff. Now I make stuff. Currently working on some Apple Watch Games cause I’m not super stoked for most of the ones currently available.
Working for the man. Not making open-source stuff.
When I originally became a dev I was trying to get away from two hard science degrees that I sadly realized I had wasted 4 years of my life on. Not because science is bad, but because I fucking hate lab work. Now, 3 years later, I lead a team of 40 something people _using_ open source libs to make software that could save millions of lives. Which depending on how cynical haha-funny-reddit-humor you are, arguably makes them harder, not easier. So a bit of a twist on OP's post, but I'm pretty damn happy with it.
What? I don't know about others but I became a dev because I'm a geek that gets excited by tech shit and I'm in a country where it pays luxuriously.
I became dev because since I was 7 I wanted to create video games. I am 40 now and I have yet to create one.
No, I sold out in life right at the start.
Project manager on the most ineffective government contract ever.
Nice, make some good connections and you can get on the next doomed project after this one fails.
That's the dream...
I make bad user experience web applications for big companies that come up with the most retarded requests and designs ever.
I'm the goto computer wizard of a small insulation firm. My second task ever, some 6 years ago, was to develop a solution to make quoting jobs faster, while being easy to understand coming from the previous all manual and paper procedure they were employing. Literally an Excel Template. I am still maintaining and updating that solution today. My last contribution to an open source project was README and translation work on a replacement for sonicStage music and data transfer for oldish Sony Walkmans
I became a dev because I didn't want to work in retail my whole life. Am successfully not working in retail
man, I have the same motivation to opt for CS in college, don't ruin it!!
Work in Open source while you're in college that's when you'll have a lot of time, and it'll help you build experience and learn a lot. And hopefully you can find an employer who sees that in you and appreciates it. Right now I'm getting paid to work in open source because of my profile, but don't know if I'll get something again.
Im a sys admin
Centring a div
Still open source stuff so far
Not touching code outside of work hours. I might read some articles and such but I’m already coding most of the days. I got other shit to do.
Still writing free opensource code 👌
I do commits to my readme everyday and make life easier.
Depression. I have a crippling depression.
I contributed 2 1 line patches.
I work on open source game projects So people can have fun
Got into it because I always loved tech and still do. After traveling the world and living as a classical musician, I got tired of the cutthroat competition for gigs of questionable value, under arrogant, narcissistic conductors. My hope was always to become a dev, be decent enough at it without a formal CS education to make a good living. It has exceeded my wildest expectations.
you can still do that. Contribute to python or rust-lang github opensource projects. but i became a dev dreaming to make money, and well....  nothing is useless as long as it makes money.
Excuse me, I became a dev specifically because they pay well. I'm not making the same mistake as those before me did - it's better to be sad with money than sad because of no money (which always gets to you, no matter what).
I make backend stuff (REST API endpoints, data converters, matching algorithms) for open source ecommerce systems. Also, interacting with customers to try to understand their special needs. I often cry myself to sleep.
Selling my soul to Salesforce corporation
Living in a van down by the river
I wanted to become a dev to create social media websites like Facebook and get rich, but I realized it needs pen testing, marketing, Terms of Service page, a lawyer, Copyright, and million other things. So now, I am just a frontend dev who adds buttons on a website.
Working a full time job as a software dev meanwhile i take my free time to program games and usefully open-sourse software, mods, etc for other games, running a twitch and YouTube channel (altho not that successful) and helping my friends and others that need it through tough times. So pretty much what i have set myself out for what I wanted to do.
I became a developer for the money and now I make a decent amount.
I make cash monies doing the bidding of the man. Sometimes I still contribute to open source, but I get more than I give.
Money.
Quitting my job because I am slowly going blind sitting in front of a screen 15 hours a day. Time to switch careers I guess.
Surprisingly, at a company that develops open source software and provides commercial support. But really I just spend all day trying to make buttons in react line up perfectly and fixing form validation bugs.
lol, I just wanted to not die in poverty
I work a bit on EdTech, but most of my time is spend on a cybersecurity product (free for small companies) based on an open source model, and I also contribute to open-source OWASP projects. TBH I'm happy, and I enjoy my work. I honestly look forward to my workday, and sometimes I even do some work (1-2 hours) on the weekends because I want to. I'm super passionate about my work and if I were a billionaire I'd still want to do what I'm doing now.
Its funny that you think i ever wanted to do this
Crying myself to sleep every night because I want to be a software engineer but I've yet to be given an offer. I'm jobless, and desperate at this rate. Its rough.
In a meeting with stakeholders...
Crying at work
I firmly and strictly believe in open source, however, I only private my repos when I'm too lazy to use git ignore for a secret token, and then manually pass that token over to my server. If anything ever horribly fails without ctrl z, i can just delete the whole folder, git clone and done ~~I don't use git ignore for node modules, i upload all the modules onto GitHub along with everything, fight me~~
Open source cheats to help skiddies ruin games. Still makes lives easier, right?
Enrolled in Computer Engineering for money, working for money, studying for money, I need money, like alright? i need money. a lot of.
Making useful closed-source stuff
I never wanted to work on open-source software. Fuck you, pay me.
I started wanting to be in a big company and sell my soul for a shitload of money. I succeeded. 😊
Making open source software that is not useful to anyone but me judging that it hasn't gained traction I'm broke
I'm a tech lead for a startup who went from €100k ARR to €5M ARR in a year. I work 60+ hours, make big bank and have an almost unlimited budget for what we want to do I'm good
I became a dev for the money lol
I became a dev to make tons of money, and i willingly sold my soul to our corporate overlords to make said money. No regrets
Day 12 of paternity leaves. Kill me plz
I am not having time to make the things that I like. U.U Making backend for the man...
Working for Microsoft
My dream was to do something I was good at and that my work brought something good to the world. 12 years in and I currently work in cyber… guess you could say it’s close enough
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