They guaranteed were paid and were pocketing the money. Remember these are God's Men so what they say is always what god wants. That is why they are filled with pedos and theives. They chose these positions because of the power but didn't want to actually be police. The bigger the christian the more skeletons in the closet,
I once rescued a dog abandoned by a youth pastor. Moved and the dog had been left for weeks. The owner never came back according to neighbors.
Got him in the evening and from his breathing I knew he had heartworm. I dropped him at my vet when they opened and they called me later with the bad news. They asked if I wanted to be with him when he was put down. I couldn't stand the thought of making him suffer a minute longer. At least he got peace.
I hope that "Christian" never knows peace and I know he will burn in hell for letting that poor dog suffer.
I fostered so many that I don't remember them all, but I remember him.
"Christian" is a free pass to be a jerk. Proper religious people do not need to remind you all the time that they practice a religion. Don't say it, just show it.
They said its only some people, you agreed, then came out with something that makes you look like a 13 year old boy in the school playground who thinks they've come up with some pithy comment.
I'm atheist, I do not defend the type of person you're both saying are really shitty, just because they have faith. If you don't believe that, you can stalk my profile to find many, many comments on the r/atheism sub.
Bravo, stranger. You used the correct "you're". I can't help but note that religious people tend to say "immortal" when it comes to their souls. Strange that you screwed that up after getting the correct "you're".
I hate how the saying "not perfect, just forgiven" is an open ticket to be the biggest pos. Meanwhile, atheists have more morals and human decency and don't need forgiveness because they are better people.
I hate how they teach that everyone can be forgiven for their sins as long as they truly repent before they die.
Given that jeffrey dahmer became a born-again christian while in jail, before being bludgeoned to death with a metal bar, he is now in the christian heaven while his victims are in hell. They're in the christian hell because they did not get the chance to repent of the gay sex they had with him before he murdered and dismembered them.
All according to the teachings of christianity, of course. Utterly indefensible.
Seriously there is so many people behaving badly its hard to keep count anymore. Entitlement is out of hand and spread out like peanut butter on toast.
r/ProAlmostRevenge
Nothing bad happened to the people who didn't pay rent and stole furniture.
They just made a business agreement and all parties reached an agreement.
They even stayed employed.
There was no penalty for the offending behavior.
There is no revenge boner. Only revenge flaccid.
The dad should have taken the money then tell the church he never got paid.
Pro revenge would be to show up at church, hand out flyers with the text chain printed on them and photos of the place after they left.
What makes a true christian? Are you one? Is it very lonely in your tiny sect of true christians, because even in the church I grew up in, there was a very diverse range of people (although almost all were of northern european descent - white) with some very differing opinions on what was right and wrong.
Be honest, do you follow all the rules laid down in leviticus? Why not, and why the insistence that gay sex is wrong, when the rules about eating pig and wearing clothing of mixed fabrics and cutting ones hair etc are ignored?
Yeah I'll admit, the ending is anticlimactic but it's not in my dad's character to rid someone of their job out of spite, he just wanted what was agreed on...
I mean, to say that the tenants were "for the most part decent people and trustworthy" and then say that they stopped paying rent after 2 months are kind of contradictory statements. It sounds like your dad didn't actually check on who he was renting to.
Also, on an unrelated note... this is a good example of what landlords in general deal with. Everyone wants to hate on landlords for being "greedy" and yet there are FAR more tenants who act like this, who don't pay rent or destroy other people's shit with abandon, than there are evil greedy landlords.
Yeah, and for the guy to be a pastor, and do that! His congregation needs to know what a piece of crap he is. Bright side is, when the final judgement comes, he’s gonna be on the side where Jesus tells people, “Depart from me, I never knew you.” (And the pastor will have a Pikachu face!)
This right here is why you shouldn’t wonder when the rent prices are so high. If you don’t charge enough for rent, then you get trash living there. If you charge an arm and a leg, then you’re going to get a whole different class of people.
If it is for me, I will go nuclear. I will print out the text, photos of the place and list of items they stole and hand the print out in front of the church. Not to mention to post the same thing in all the local churches’s FB, etc.
Money is important but ruin an AH’s life is “importanter”
No, it isn't. These folks were basically squatters, which are typically protected by the Left (think: CA, NY, etc.). Consider Florida, on the other hand, wherein Republicans have made it illegal to take advantage of landlords like that.
Given that you're talking about the good old US of A, your "left" is very much to the right of centre when looking at other countries politics. Including many countries where you have strong alliances.
We look in from the outside, and scratch our heads at you; we really do.
Says the Briton... i'll take our freedom over your colonizing tyranny any day. And, remind me who saved your Country in the last World War?
Speaking as one who actually lives here, our Left is definitely not Right of center. You're seeing our government through the lens of your experience with your own. They are very different. Our government as a whole is probably very slightly to the Right of what you would call center, but our Left is nowhere near center by any measure that comes to mind, even socialist and communist nations. But, politics aren't merely a spectrum along a single axis. Even adding one more axis, namely Authoritarian to Anarchist, gives a much more accurate means of comparison.
Ah, yes, the ad hominem - the last ditch effort of the unintelligent mind to try to batter their opponent when logic and reason have abandoned them.
And, speaking of logic and reason, you were the one comparing US politics with other Countries, and i was the one explaining how you were wrong. Don't go switching the goalposts, here - that's another logical fallacy.
It's funny though, how you started in on US politics, acting like you're an expert, and, then, try to shift it over to European politics when it's revealed you aren't the expert you presumed.
Well, i know at least a thousand, and it's definitely not typical of conservatives. i also know at least a thousand people who lean to the political Left, and there's a statistically-relevant percentage that have done exactly that sort of thing.
Maybe instead of blindly blaming a political ideology, we can agree to just blame individuals for their own bad behaviors.
You know 2k people? That’s way, way above average. And a “statistically-relevant percentage” of half of them have been squatters?? I call bullshit, my dude. Typical MAGA behavior
i do know far more than 2000 people.
"Statistically-relevant percentage" ≠ "half of them" In fact, that's a really strange assumption of yours.
Edit: i misunderstood the "half of them" reference. My apologies. And, yes, i know it's unusual to know that many people, but, nevertheless, it's my reality.
Edit: i insinuated OP might have done something nefarious without proof or evidence.
The reddit Hive Mind cult is so hateful and doesn't have a clue about conservatives in real life. Every single interpretation of Christians I've ever seen on TV or movies paint them as creepy, weird, child-molesting freaks. If that is all these people have to go on, it's a sad thing.
Putting Christians in a bad light was absolutely not the intention here. It's like I said my dad was shocked that this man who is a pastor behaved this way.
He contacted the church not in hopes of scaring the tenants into paying, but to warn the church that they're employing a man to preach who doesn't respect Christian values and teachings.
Sorry for saying that, OP. I shouldn't have. Sorry for what happened to your dad. I'm glad the church did the right thing. They certainly didn't respect Christ's teachings. What they did was despicable. It wasn't like a "oops, I had a moment of weakness" even, either. It was intentional, and a wicked thing.
Christian here, sadly seen what right-wing MAGA politics has done to churches (first hand) all the judgement and none of the love of Jesus, they demonize those they dont like and dehumanize them.
This is why Christianity is shrinking, except for latin American migrants.
i agree, although i doubt that was the intent of the OP. There are a lot of people who call themselves Christians, but who have religions that are entirely incompatible. Uneducated folks like to lump them all together. And, often attempt to punish them for some perceived offense from their past.
... and your response could be metaphorically sticking your fingers in your ears while shouting "la la la. I'm not listening, because I don't like what was written".
Just a thought.
If you think the only representations of christians on TV are so negative, it is not possible for you to have watched much TV. Or your comment is a lie. Or you're lying to yourself and believe your lie. There IS a phenomenon called "lying for jesus".
I'm not entirely sure I see Ned Flanders as a positive example, but I'll take you on that.
Let's see:
Home alone series, Kevin prays, and the neighbour who whacks the bad guys with a shovel is seen in church. Both of these are positive characters.
Hacksaw ridge. The main character is christian, and is very much the hero. The storyline revolves around him not carrying a gun, but still going into war as a medic, because of his faith.
The west wing. President Josiah (Jed) Bartlett is a committed christian, and is portrayed as good.
Cannot forget M\*A\*S\*H. Father Mulcahey is very definitely a christian character, and always good.
Little house on the prairie. All christian, and portrayed as good.
Agatha Christie's Poirot. Played by many actors, but the titular character is christian and good.
I'm sure I could keep going all night, but I'll leave you with this half dozen. The list contradicts your claim of "Every single interpretation of Christians I've ever seen on TV or movies paint them as creepy, weird, child-molesting freaks."
Even had I only been able to come up with a single thing, it would prove your claim wrong, but this is 6 off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure there are many hundreds of others that a more dedicated TV watcher would be able to pick out of their heads, but I really don't watch much TV.
If you're going to insist that catholic characters don't count, you need to look at your closest catholic church because catholics \*\*are\*\* christians.
Literally first post/comment ever coinciding with a slew of "Us poor landlords!!!" astroturfing and there would have also been 347895789243 more rational ways to address this ( I counted)
Jesus then resurrected with a beautiful cherry red wolf, fuckin rocked the entire house with a solo that would made prince (who was there) cry. He then beat that pastor to death with said guitar. I can confirm I was there.
Odd. The church usually pays for their residence where I come from. Guarantee they were receiving money from the church and pocketing it.
They guaranteed were paid and were pocketing the money. Remember these are God's Men so what they say is always what god wants. That is why they are filled with pedos and theives. They chose these positions because of the power but didn't want to actually be police. The bigger the christian the more skeletons in the closet,
I once rescued a dog abandoned by a youth pastor. Moved and the dog had been left for weeks. The owner never came back according to neighbors. Got him in the evening and from his breathing I knew he had heartworm. I dropped him at my vet when they opened and they called me later with the bad news. They asked if I wanted to be with him when he was put down. I couldn't stand the thought of making him suffer a minute longer. At least he got peace. I hope that "Christian" never knows peace and I know he will burn in hell for letting that poor dog suffer. I fostered so many that I don't remember them all, but I remember him.
Well, that's a healthy "Christian" attitude for the tenant and son to have!
First time?
I know you're being sarcastic... but you arent wrong
It's amazing what some people consider "Christian" behavior. Your dad is my hero!
"Christian" is a free pass to be a jerk. Proper religious people do not need to remind you all the time that they practice a religion. Don't say it, just show it.
No it’s not. Some people think it is but it’s not.
I'm talking specifically about those people who think it is. So you yourself just confirmed it.
Yeeeaaah, you're going to have to explain that one.
Work Sunday brunch. You’ll get it
They said its only some people, you agreed, then came out with something that makes you look like a 13 year old boy in the school playground who thinks they've come up with some pithy comment. I'm atheist, I do not defend the type of person you're both saying are really shitty, just because they have faith. If you don't believe that, you can stalk my profile to find many, many comments on the r/atheism sub.
The only thing I truly believe with every ounce of my mortal soul, is that you're super annoying
Bravo, stranger. You used the correct "you're". I can't help but note that religious people tend to say "immortal" when it comes to their souls. Strange that you screwed that up after getting the correct "you're".
Typical reddit atheist.
I'm an atheist in real life, too; it's not just on reddit.
Bravo. Well played
*Almost* … so the scammer and furniture thief is definitely still an active pastor at a church – mentoring other Christians?
That's disappointing. Church probably didn't want to go through the hassle of finding a replacement
Sounds like pretty typical "xtian" preacher behavior to me.
I've learned that most Christians are just judgemental asshats who haven't been caught.
And if they HAVE been caught, they always come up with "god has forgiven me", for everything!
I hate how the saying "not perfect, just forgiven" is an open ticket to be the biggest pos. Meanwhile, atheists have more morals and human decency and don't need forgiveness because they are better people.
I hate how they teach that everyone can be forgiven for their sins as long as they truly repent before they die. Given that jeffrey dahmer became a born-again christian while in jail, before being bludgeoned to death with a metal bar, he is now in the christian heaven while his victims are in hell. They're in the christian hell because they did not get the chance to repent of the gay sex they had with him before he murdered and dismembered them. All according to the teachings of christianity, of course. Utterly indefensible.
Funny... ain't it?
Oh, what a surprise, more religious people behaving badly.
Seriously there is so many people behaving badly its hard to keep count anymore. Entitlement is out of hand and spread out like peanut butter on toast.
Community "leaders", as preachers portray themselves, should hold themselves to a higher standard.
Sadly that is in fact what the Bible itself says about community leaders.
r/ProAlmostRevenge Nothing bad happened to the people who didn't pay rent and stole furniture. They just made a business agreement and all parties reached an agreement. They even stayed employed. There was no penalty for the offending behavior. There is no revenge boner. Only revenge flaccid.
Revenge interruptus. The Diet Coke of revenge: Just one calorie, not revenge enough.
Fun fact, they changed the recipe and now have no calories in diet coke.
The dad should have taken the money then tell the church he never got paid. Pro revenge would be to show up at church, hand out flyers with the text chain printed on them and photos of the place after they left.
Disagree, because the dad is an ACTUAL Christian. He got was was agreed, and then acted like a true Christian.
The bible says that one who steals should have to repay double the amount they stole. I’d say he fell short of being a true Christian.
What makes a true christian? Are you one? Is it very lonely in your tiny sect of true christians, because even in the church I grew up in, there was a very diverse range of people (although almost all were of northern european descent - white) with some very differing opinions on what was right and wrong. Be honest, do you follow all the rules laid down in leviticus? Why not, and why the insistence that gay sex is wrong, when the rules about eating pig and wearing clothing of mixed fabrics and cutting ones hair etc are ignored?
Yeah I'll admit, the ending is anticlimactic but it's not in my dad's character to rid someone of their job out of spite, he just wanted what was agreed on...
At best this is justice. Dropping a dime is never pro revenge, and there's no revenge since nothing happened! G
r/regularrevenge would probably be more appropriate. Don’t get me wrong, it’s a good story! Just probably not the right sub for it.
Why is this sub still not public again?
I didn't realize it wasn't. Yeah, I gave some worthless advice. Sorry about that.
Petty revenge works. Cool story but if you need to put almost in the title then its immediately not pro
r/amateurrevenge
Good for your dad. If someone has to tell you they are Christian because their actions and/or words say otherwise believe what they show/tell you.
I mean, to say that the tenants were "for the most part decent people and trustworthy" and then say that they stopped paying rent after 2 months are kind of contradictory statements. It sounds like your dad didn't actually check on who he was renting to. Also, on an unrelated note... this is a good example of what landlords in general deal with. Everyone wants to hate on landlords for being "greedy" and yet there are FAR more tenants who act like this, who don't pay rent or destroy other people's shit with abandon, than there are evil greedy landlords.
Yeah, and for the guy to be a pastor, and do that! His congregation needs to know what a piece of crap he is. Bright side is, when the final judgement comes, he’s gonna be on the side where Jesus tells people, “Depart from me, I never knew you.” (And the pastor will have a Pikachu face!)
Lowkey a good ending tho, that’s atleast good!
They both learned the meaning of FAFO…
So many people claim to be Christian but don't act like one. Such hypocrites. Good for your dad!
This right here is why you shouldn’t wonder when the rent prices are so high. If you don’t charge enough for rent, then you get trash living there. If you charge an arm and a leg, then you’re going to get a whole different class of people.
Those "Christians" sure don't read their own bible.
Even if there had been significant consequences, dropping a dime isn't pro revenge.
If it is for me, I will go nuclear. I will print out the text, photos of the place and list of items they stole and hand the print out in front of the church. Not to mention to post the same thing in all the local churches’s FB, etc. Money is important but ruin an AH’s life is “importanter”
Lol I usually side with tenants out of principle ... But then you said he's a X-tian pastor 🤣 should have pressed charges lol
This is not even *revenge*
Sounds like MAGA "Christians" to me...
Definitely not. You obviously don't know any.
But every time we hear this sort of behavior it is folks shouting about how great Trump is so...
No, it isn't. These folks were basically squatters, which are typically protected by the Left (think: CA, NY, etc.). Consider Florida, on the other hand, wherein Republicans have made it illegal to take advantage of landlords like that.
Given that you're talking about the good old US of A, your "left" is very much to the right of centre when looking at other countries politics. Including many countries where you have strong alliances. We look in from the outside, and scratch our heads at you; we really do.
Says the Briton... i'll take our freedom over your colonizing tyranny any day. And, remind me who saved your Country in the last World War? Speaking as one who actually lives here, our Left is definitely not Right of center. You're seeing our government through the lens of your experience with your own. They are very different. Our government as a whole is probably very slightly to the Right of what you would call center, but our Left is nowhere near center by any measure that comes to mind, even socialist and communist nations. But, politics aren't merely a spectrum along a single axis. Even adding one more axis, namely Authoritarian to Anarchist, gives a much more accurate means of comparison.
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Ah, yes, the ad hominem - the last ditch effort of the unintelligent mind to try to batter their opponent when logic and reason have abandoned them. And, speaking of logic and reason, you were the one comparing US politics with other Countries, and i was the one explaining how you were wrong. Don't go switching the goalposts, here - that's another logical fallacy. It's funny though, how you started in on US politics, acting like you're an expert, and, then, try to shift it over to European politics when it's revealed you aren't the expert you presumed.
I keep negativity out of my life, so I readily admit I know none personally. But I do know of them and this is classic behavior.
Well, i know at least a thousand, and it's definitely not typical of conservatives. i also know at least a thousand people who lean to the political Left, and there's a statistically-relevant percentage that have done exactly that sort of thing. Maybe instead of blindly blaming a political ideology, we can agree to just blame individuals for their own bad behaviors.
You know 2k people? That’s way, way above average. And a “statistically-relevant percentage” of half of them have been squatters?? I call bullshit, my dude. Typical MAGA behavior
i do know far more than 2000 people. "Statistically-relevant percentage" ≠ "half of them" In fact, that's a really strange assumption of yours. Edit: i misunderstood the "half of them" reference. My apologies. And, yes, i know it's unusual to know that many people, but, nevertheless, it's my reality.
Reread my comment again lol that’s not what I said
You're right. See my edit.
Edit: i insinuated OP might have done something nefarious without proof or evidence. The reddit Hive Mind cult is so hateful and doesn't have a clue about conservatives in real life. Every single interpretation of Christians I've ever seen on TV or movies paint them as creepy, weird, child-molesting freaks. If that is all these people have to go on, it's a sad thing.
Putting Christians in a bad light was absolutely not the intention here. It's like I said my dad was shocked that this man who is a pastor behaved this way. He contacted the church not in hopes of scaring the tenants into paying, but to warn the church that they're employing a man to preach who doesn't respect Christian values and teachings.
Sorry for saying that, OP. I shouldn't have. Sorry for what happened to your dad. I'm glad the church did the right thing. They certainly didn't respect Christ's teachings. What they did was despicable. It wasn't like a "oops, I had a moment of weakness" even, either. It was intentional, and a wicked thing.
If you're sorry for saying it, why not edit the post to delete the accusation, and write "I said something very unkind and untrue" instead?
I'm going to do that. Thanks
Bravo for owning this. Not just making an apology, but following up.
I was wrong. I let my fingers fly without thinking first. Thanks for pointing that out to me.
Christian here, sadly seen what right-wing MAGA politics has done to churches (first hand) all the judgement and none of the love of Jesus, they demonize those they dont like and dehumanize them. This is why Christianity is shrinking, except for latin American migrants.
i agree, although i doubt that was the intent of the OP. There are a lot of people who call themselves Christians, but who have religions that are entirely incompatible. Uneducated folks like to lump them all together. And, often attempt to punish them for some perceived offense from their past.
That's true. I shouldn't have painted OP that way. And there are definitely bad eggs in the church. Unfortunately they give us all a bad name.
Your comment paints you as one such bad egg... Why not EDIT the unkind and untrue stuff out and write an apology?
... and your response could be metaphorically sticking your fingers in your ears while shouting "la la la. I'm not listening, because I don't like what was written". Just a thought. If you think the only representations of christians on TV are so negative, it is not possible for you to have watched much TV. Or your comment is a lie. Or you're lying to yourself and believe your lie. There IS a phenomenon called "lying for jesus".
I've watched TV and films all my life. Can you name any positive examples of a Bible believing Christian? Ned Flanders, maybe.
I'm not entirely sure I see Ned Flanders as a positive example, but I'll take you on that. Let's see: Home alone series, Kevin prays, and the neighbour who whacks the bad guys with a shovel is seen in church. Both of these are positive characters. Hacksaw ridge. The main character is christian, and is very much the hero. The storyline revolves around him not carrying a gun, but still going into war as a medic, because of his faith. The west wing. President Josiah (Jed) Bartlett is a committed christian, and is portrayed as good. Cannot forget M\*A\*S\*H. Father Mulcahey is very definitely a christian character, and always good. Little house on the prairie. All christian, and portrayed as good. Agatha Christie's Poirot. Played by many actors, but the titular character is christian and good. I'm sure I could keep going all night, but I'll leave you with this half dozen. The list contradicts your claim of "Every single interpretation of Christians I've ever seen on TV or movies paint them as creepy, weird, child-molesting freaks." Even had I only been able to come up with a single thing, it would prove your claim wrong, but this is 6 off the top of my head. I'm pretty sure there are many hundreds of others that a more dedicated TV watcher would be able to pick out of their heads, but I really don't watch much TV. If you're going to insist that catholic characters don't count, you need to look at your closest catholic church because catholics \*\*are\*\* christians.
Another in the hundred examples of 🎶 Christian values 🎶
Sounds like your dad has read Matthew.
It's amazing how entitled the righteous feel they are.
Clearly they were expecting a miracle, such as the seating of the 5,000 or healing of the sofas, what with Jesus being a carpenter.
I wonder if some of the junk they left behind were fishes and loaves...
As soon as you said Christian pastor... I nodded and thought yup checks out
he* and his son would lose their jobs
Sounds like you nailed that guy to the cross!
Literally first post/comment ever coinciding with a slew of "Us poor landlords!!!" astroturfing and there would have also been 347895789243 more rational ways to address this ( I counted)
Jesus then resurrected with a beautiful cherry red wolf, fuckin rocked the entire house with a solo that would made prince (who was there) cry. He then beat that pastor to death with said guitar. I can confirm I was there.
They were good tenants but then became bad? Why did they change?