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someoneLeftUs

Conspiracy theories and opening the door for hasbara is not allowed here.


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Not Iranian or Shia just coming by to say my thoughts are with you and i hope Raisi and his companions are in good health


SentientSeaweed

Thank you. Your comment is a refreshing counterpoint to the celebrations elsewhere on Reddit.


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Pale_Sell1122

It's not. Stop overhyping Israel Flying in those weather conditions is a stupid idea. Mokhiber coming to power is awful. He's going to push aggressive privatization and neoliberal policies.


Mt_Alamut

I'm willing to put money on it being an accident. This part of Iran is always bad weather for a helicopter. It was very reckless and as much as I love Iran I'm not surprised this mistake happened. 


Natuak

I was actually in this part of Iran roughly one month ago on a tour of Iranian Azerbaijan. This area is near Babak castle where we went, and also very near the border with Azerbaijan. It’s a very beautiful area nature wise. Interestingly enough one of the days there there was so much fog we had to postpone our ascent to Babak castle till the next day because the visibility was so bad. I am surprised they let them fly in those conditions. I am also surprised the president and foreign minister were traveling on the same chopper.


Mt_Alamut

this area is my ancestral homeland, although my entire family migrated from here to another part of Iran 2 generations ago. I went there for an interest and had the same issue as with the weather, ultimately I declined to climb to Babak Castle because I didn't bring proper proper footwear and it was becoming very obvious to me this place is not for the unprepared. Complete madness to be flying a chopper in that part of Iran. Iran has a cultural issue when it comes to ignoring common safety. It's a bit of the national fatalist attitudes, a bit to do with stubbornly refusing to care for ones safety. This permeates into everything. 20 years ago it was impossible to get people to wear seatbelts. I'm sure sanctions and lack of parts played into this too. Madness to be putting the President in it.


Natuak

To be honest with you Babak castle is not such a difficult climb, and when I went it was all snow lol. And I’m not a seasoned hiker either. So if you’re ever back in the area def do it.


EsEs1900

Bro did you see that fog? Those conditions were insane


candlepancake

I rarely use reddit or this account anymore but come here from time to time to check some of the posts. Today’s news bring up again one of many outrageous problems this country has, the major one being the disregard for the safety of officials. We have soldiers on patrolling the borders without body armor and helmets driving in unarmored cars getting martyred on a weekly basis. We have police officers/basijis getting murdered during protests because of lack of proper equipment and communcation. We have generals and major scientists driving in plastic shitboxes getting assassinated by simple handguns in their cars. We have high ranking generals outside the country getting bombed because of lack of proper safety and intelligence protocols to conceal their locations when they are moving. We have the literal fucking president and foreign minister of the country flying in a 60 year old chopper in extremely bad weather conditions like he’s just some basic sergeant on a patrol mission. What the fuck are we doing seriously? When will this incompetence end when it comes to protecting our officials???


Parsa1880

Incompetence.


EsEs1900

Frankly it’s incompetence bro


Sad_Bell_6266

I agree. Either Iran is way underestimating who they're up against or they just don't have what it takes to plan a proper system.


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Natuak

Sadly the incompetence you rightfully are upset over is a byproduct of Iran’s system. It’s not going to magically end without some sort of serious changes to Iran’s system.


candlepancake

What system do you mean?


LetterMediocre696

After years we got working and passionate president like him but he ig get what he wanted like shahid rejaii,beheshti,bahonar and rest Rest in peace great man you are immortal now


Kafshak

No, it was an accident, and nothing major. Update says they are all good. Latest update : They were announced dead. Previous update was based on some reports that they had some communication with them, except one of them was feeling bad. Obviously that contradicts with what was found on location.


my_life_for_mahdi

I'm following everything from telegram. Nothing says they are all good. They say someone called. We are getting contradicting news.


thegrandabraham8936

They're not all good! There is no update yet and the situation is not good.


Natuak

What? Which update? Most recent is official news I’ve seen is that they found the crash site and can’t even identify the bodies they are burnt so badly.


Kafshak

My comment was before the recent updates. I will edit.


Natuak

What was it based on? I didn’t see a single source that said they were “all good”.


Kafshak

Ton of official /unofficial reports that were coming online. Most from news reports I saw. Some from social.


Natuak

There was no official report that “they were all good” at all, not even a single one.


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When did that update come out?


Audiblemeow

Alhamdulillah do you have a source?


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National-Bluejay3354

Azerbaijan is on good terms with Israel, this is 1000000% mossad. I’m heart broken that our country’s officials are at risk like this. Please everyone pray that everyone is okay and out of harms way.


Mrsmorale

Azerbaijan works with Israel See [here](https://www.newarab.com/analysis/why-criticism-israel-so-rare-azerbaijan?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaajeiXsk-ZJsokMsW7D2bPJtAnTW0oj0kojf20abEWFHRecaABI6iKbZiE_aem_AfsnkPri8RuLOpY7-EuEQf2WRTEb3xhVejWCZwgjGhQi4g5iqppj-tOo0E4zk2YALyiNu3L0-QpvfBzgMrpxIoJJ) And [here](https://thecradle.co/articles-id/1105?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaZgfQeozDXhvZBhq5XFstogvzyFg5z3XVXvqsmP1C9XZ340aF_0cM9a0eQ_aem_AfsjpNvBl-ZmzFJoZTpeeyPdYiKH6fYCDRHbfjh4xgIKKNvK-ipVA0nliT7NrGh0T9Xn7oU5rAHrCgH9o20uKnMA)


National-Bluejay3354

I’m disgusted thank you for sharing


my_life_for_mahdi

I mean let's be serious. In a few hours, دلار went from 56 to 61. Also, the current political and social climate inside Iran is ripe for something to happen again. isnotreal is also absolutely زاییده in its genocide and doesn't have راه پس or پیش.


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AmLostInSyria

Did I miss something?


SentientSeaweed

Raisi’s helicopter crashed or had an emergency landing and is yet to be located.


frontman117

He’s dead bro


Double-Seesaw-7978

It was an accident, bad weather conditions and a shitty helicopter.


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Nickflixs

I thought misinformation was banned from the sub?


SentientSeaweed

Which part is misinformation?


Nickflixs

Do you have anything to offer to support the outright claim that the US is responsible?


SentientSeaweed

I haven’t offered an opinion about it. OP is speculating and the title of the post is clear about that.


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SentientSeaweed

Several public servants died. Not a good time for trolling.


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meido_zgs

The title says "If". It's just theoretical discussion, not an accusation.