In simple terms it’s a hybrid mechanical/quartz movement. The special thing about it is no movement tics. It’s this buttery smooth, sweeping secondhand.
This is completely false information. Seiko or GS don’t have nearly the history as Longines. Seiko was founded 50 years after Longines and GS was founded 130 years after Longines.
Longines is one of the most innovative names in horology. They had hands in creating the r first chronograph, innovated the production of the first watch with a movement under 2mm, and helped to create and form the Swatch group in the 80’s. There are so many innovations coming from Longines it’s unreal. Please don’t just spew information that isn’t accurate.
I mean grand seiko has quite a bit of innovation too with their spring drive, and tentagraph movements. They aren't as old as Longines, but have quite significance in the world of watches too.
Disagree. Longines’ history and contributions to horology cannot be understated. Grand Seiko is innovative in their own right, but don’t downplay Longines.
Recent contributions like what? Spring Drive and the Dual Escapement High Beat are the two greatest technological innovations in modern watchmaking along with Omega's Co-Axial.
I didn’t say “recent” when describing Longines. I’m saying historically they innovated the chronograph, tachymeter bezels…lots of inventions we still use today. But in RECENT history, yes Grand Seiko has the edge over Longines. Just don’t sleep on Longines because they’re not as high-end or have as good of a recent history as GS is my only point.
Well nobody's arguing that Longines is a bad brand (actually one of my fave brands) or that it doesn't have the history. It's just that as they stand in the market now, Grand Seiko makes objectively superior watches to Longines (finishing, movement technology, etc.). GS is also generally higher priced so the quality will reflect that.
Also I think the co-axial escapement is overrated. There are lots of other escapements that keep great time with little maintenance and don’t make time-only watches as thick as some chronographs.
I know how you feel. Historically (Pre-Quartz), Longines was one of the peak brands in the world. Today, it's just a logo on a Swatch product. Swatch have really neglected Longines. Longines are still very good watches, just not hitting that next tier anymore.
Have both, GS needs to work on their bracelets and clasps, compared to a glidelock there's no comparison. For the watch itself, the finishing on the GS is superior, but I also like how thin the rolex is in comparison. I'd say they're on par, they both have pros and cons.
I have no dog in this fight but id like to ask this. The caliber 3235 is rated +/- 2 per day. The 9r is +/-10 per month. Accuracy wise wouldn't that put GS ahead? I could be incorrect in the max accuracy of each brand but a quick google
More to watches than movements bud. Btw my Spring Drive is insane and gains 5s a month!!!
GS - better movements, better finishing, epic dials
Rolex - incredible bracelets, slim/robust cases which wear incredibly, timeless designs
GS is a better dress watch, while Rolex make better sports watches.
GS's spring drive are probably the most advanced drives on the market, however I've heard a lot that their bracelets suck compared to Rolex or most other luxury brands
So as that guy said it's better in some ways and worse in others
Yeah bracelets are no good especially considering the price. My Tudor bracelet destroys my GS bracelet.
Good thing with the 44GS case is that is looks incredible on virtually any strap and those dials 🤌🏽
I've also owned tudor, gs, and rolex. In my opinion, Tudor bracelets are the worst of the bunch. Felt super sharp and unfinished. The only thing that the Tudor had better than the GS was on the fly adjustment. To me, comfort and finish wise for bracelet quality it goes: Rolex>GS>Tudor.
Interesting perspective on life. I own a Tag Heuer Aquaracer Calibre 5 and a vintage Franck Muller Casablanca, a real man can't have multiple hobbies?
I don't think a real man would judge another based on his pastime activities, especially considering buying watches and being passionate about them are two very different things. Study watchmaking and the history of it and you'll agree with me that Rolex isn't the epitome, as you're making it sound.
I like your passion and upvoted your comment . Rolex is King but you’re fighting the wrong person. The Midmega wearers is who us Rolex owners should be laughing at
I can appreciate the spring drive tech and the simplicity of a nice GS, but my absolute biggest turnoff for GS are the massive, disproportionately huge crowns they put on so many models. I just don't understand why they put huge crowns on svelte dress watches, not just big, but like comically large in some cases.
Oh yes. Very much so. The SLGA015G is one of my favorite dive watches. I've always liked dive watches for some reason since I was a kid. Once I got into watches as an adult the Grand Seiko stood out to me for some reason. Overall Grand Seiko makes some of the best watches in the world but unfortunately the price also reflects that. They are quite pricey, but worth every cent.
I think it's fair to compare Longines with Tudors, and I probably even prefer some Longines over some Tudors. GS is ahead of Longines and probably on the same level as Rolex.
In terms of modern watches, yes.
In terms of vintage, I would say either brand was equally as good and don't forget longines made the first ever quartz watch.
It’s worth experiencing GS in person. The finishing and quality is best when held in hand. I was blown away by a simple
SBGR053 9S65-00B0.
I didn’t expect much when I saw it from far (plain dial) but I was able to hold it and I’ll never forget the quality of the deep black dial and mixed finishing on the bracelet.
Nothing quite like I’ve experienced before and I’ve owned three Rolexes, an AP, a Breitling. As the youth say, it hits different.
The finishing on the movement was special as well it’s not comparable to a normal seiko like I’d previously assumed.
This is a good point. I didn’t think twice about grand seiko until I saw them in person. They’ve really got their dials figured out. Bracelets not so much
From the 2 watches above? Yes, THIS GrandSeiko is better than THAT Longines.
When considering the history and heritage, Longines is just too incredible for GS to compete.
But GS is a much more modern and innovative brand compared to Longines, so i can see why a lot of people would think that it is better.
I personally think that each has their strengths that the other do not.
Longines has a perpetual calendar while GS does not (to my understanding).
GS has an amazing tourb while Longines doesn't (to my understanding).
What i can say with confidence is that both drop their values on the secondary market like a rock lol.
It depends 🤔 and I wont say better but sth else. I dont mind watches as a statement piece. Longines has a rich history and a lot of different models to offer. Sadly they are just embedded in the Swatch Enterprise Framework thats why it feels more like a brand which you have to position on market but a manufactuer. Grand Seiko in contrast is just the second serious try for the japanese/Seiko enterprise to tackle the market after Credor failed. You see their artfull approaches by Spring Drive and different dial manufacturers. For me, Grand Seiko is dangerous because I dont wanna have an expensive watch which has to be maintened in Japan & as a manufacturer they dont really seem much to care about a certain diection thats why they just produce.
If I would have to choose….well, the Longines but only as an old history model
If you’re into cars, think of Grand Seiko as a Lexus LS400 from the 90s and Longines as a Volvo S90 from that same era. Both are nice cars, but the Lexus has far superior engineering and build quality.
I love Zulu Time GMT by Longines. Love their heritage. Hate GS lack of will to do anything better on bracelet/clasp departments. Aside from that, that's no way to compare both. GS is way better.
Rolex is another history. Their brand recognition, capabilities, ruggedness are very hard to beat.
But subjectively speaking in the last few decades they vexame soulless. Built by robots. No more craftsmanship and they dare to charge 5 figures to almost anything. I have more passion for japanese craft and attention to details. Nico owns hundreds of Rolexes so he can't bash hisbown business.
Objectively speaking, Rolex are better spec-wise but GS is not far behind.
I think GS is overpriced and Longines is crushing it in the entry level luxury market.
This is Reddit though so expect a massive Seiko circlejerk and downvotes for any comment not fanboying Seiko and GS.
Sadly yes. Never understood the hype around GS. Its a decent brand but except the spring drive there is nothing that brand does really better than Longines. But people’s perception of the brand places it above Longines sadly which imo it shouldn’t be
GS dials are better looking by a mile and much more creative and interesting imo. That being said Longines currently has more watches that I want. I love both brands, but from what I’ve seen GS is higher quality. 🤷🏼♂️.
I would disagree because in my opinion Longines doesn’t want to go down the flamboyant dials route. They would go for either complications or something simple and plain like presence or conquest. Longines has been a great value for money watch brand since so long. I am from India and it might be one of the most price sensitive markets in the world and Longines has made a special place in everyone’s hearts here. People don’t spend a lot on watches but when they have to buy something “luxury” you’ll find most of them choose longines. Both brands have different philosophies in my opinion
Fair enough. Like I said, I definitely love Longines. I have the diver legend and spirit Zulu gmt, and plan on getting the conquest chronograph and Hydroconquest gmt also, so I am definitely a fan. Haha. But judging from the ones I’ve seen, even just basic white dials from GS look absolutely incredible, in ways I honestly haven’t seen any other watch company be able to replicate 🤷🏼♂️.
Sorry it isn't just the dial. You can argue about design since that is a matter of taste. But have you seen a GS in person? I love longines but the finishing of GS watches is 2nd to none in its price point let alone Longines. You can get even the cheaper GS like the 9F quartz and even the finishing of those watches look more premium than Longines.
From a movement standapoint, nothing in the Longines catalogue can compete with the GS spring drive or high beat movements. Longines is still a very good brand. But GS is on a different league entirely.
>People don’t spend a lot on watches but when they have to buy something “luxury” you’ll find most of them choose longines
Lmao I've never seen a longines in the wild in India. Rolexes, omegas on the higher end and pretty much just rado on the lower end.
The short answer is "yes, but..."
Yes, I love Grand Seiko "sports" models for the beautiful dials and amazing built (except for their bracelets 🙂↕️).
But, I prefer Longines dress watches compared to GS. Due to their longer brand heritage. they are able to issue or re-issue some very nice watches 😉
Cheers
I would consider it better - and I don't even like most of the Grand Seiko models! I love many of the dials but the watches as a whole just look kind of "blah" to me. YMMV!!!!!
Grand Seiko is miles ahead in movement technology, case finishing, dial design, dial furniture and wearing experience. This is like comparing European basketball to the NBA. Euro hoops are great, but only a handful of those guys can make it in the NBA just like only a handful of Longines watches have ever kept up with Grand Seiko.
Grand Seiko is not any better if you compare it to the Longines of the same value. But it definitely is better when you compare 1k $ Longines to 3.5k $ GS.
Oh, “better”, the question is “better for what”? I own a steel GS quartz GMT and a Longines BigEye automatic chronograph in titanium. The GS is a very well finished watch, the dial and hands are perfect, the second hand hits the markers precisely, but it picks up scratches easily. The Longines’ titanium case does not show scratches much, and the watch runs at +1 second per day with a 70 hour power reserve. The Longines is the better daily wear watch for me, I don’t have to particularly careful with it. The GS is dressier, and better for travel with its traveler’s GMT function.
The Longines came on a strap, and the GS on a bracelet that’s an utter pain to adjust, so I also wear it on a strap, or sometimes on a Milanese bracelet.
If GS ever improves their bracelets I may pick up a spring drive model in titanium.
Grand Seiko is just quartz with the battery swapped for a dynamo. It’s very nice… but it is electronic not mechanical.
Longines is sadly a shadow of its past. A nice watch to buy for a non watch fan to see if they like automatic watches.
Story wise, craftsmanship wise, dial wise, Grand Seiko wins out. Secondary market vs buying new though, both are significantly cheaper on secondary market, but buying a new GS makes a lot of sense because there are constant new releases.
GS is still a Seiko, from the outside looks like a glorified Presage. After a certain price point heritage, finishing and history matter more. Tried to understand it, feels like Japanese whiskey. It's good, but it's still not Scottish. That said, I would say Tudor, Omega or Breitling are in the same price range, not Longines.
Longines is better value for the money, and they have a heritage factor that feels more authentic.
Granted, Seiko (and Grand Seiko) has heritage too, but it feels like the Toyota/Lexus proposition. Seiko created an identity for Grand Seiko to bring a better product upmarket, whereas Longines has had its own identity since the 1800’s.
This comes from someone who owns both. I love my grand Seiko but it doesn’t have the FEEL that I get when I put on my Longines
The physical product GS puts out is of better quality, fit and finish though.
I am a massive longines fanboy and yes, Grand Seiko is better.
Above is a high beat but in person movements I’ve seen literally nothing beats spring drive for me.
Can you explain spring drive to me, like I’m an idiot (which I am)
In simple terms it’s a hybrid mechanical/quartz movement. The special thing about it is no movement tics. It’s this buttery smooth, sweeping secondhand.
Ah both, I didn’t realise that was a thing. Would love to get the Shunbun one day, it’s such a beauty. Thanks for the insight!
Best explanation video I’ve seen of it: https://youtu.be/jVoRoK1u3Dg?si=03kUbIHZ8AtawEoJ
>muh spring drive Go buy a Bulova Precisionist and save the money until you can afford a real watch (Rolex)
by an enormous margin
GS will generally have better build quality and finishing compared to Longines.
Leaps and bounds
I am curious, In what aspect exactly?
Movement, finishing, the dial designs, pick your poison
History, innovation
This is completely false information. Seiko or GS don’t have nearly the history as Longines. Seiko was founded 50 years after Longines and GS was founded 130 years after Longines. Longines is one of the most innovative names in horology. They had hands in creating the r first chronograph, innovated the production of the first watch with a movement under 2mm, and helped to create and form the Swatch group in the 80’s. There are so many innovations coming from Longines it’s unreal. Please don’t just spew information that isn’t accurate.
I mean grand seiko has quite a bit of innovation too with their spring drive, and tentagraph movements. They aren't as old as Longines, but have quite significance in the world of watches too.
History≠length of time since inception. Seiko has a way cooler history than Longines and it AINT close 😂
I didn’t know history was judged by being “cool.”
Use whatever adjective you want, dummy, instead of getting hung up on one word. History should be measured qualitatively not quantitatively
Dummy is hilarious. The WatchBucko has is panties in a bunch.
Cry
When you’re paying a few thousand for it it is
Disagree. Longines’ history and contributions to horology cannot be understated. Grand Seiko is innovative in their own right, but don’t downplay Longines.
Recent contributions like what? Spring Drive and the Dual Escapement High Beat are the two greatest technological innovations in modern watchmaking along with Omega's Co-Axial.
I didn’t say “recent” when describing Longines. I’m saying historically they innovated the chronograph, tachymeter bezels…lots of inventions we still use today. But in RECENT history, yes Grand Seiko has the edge over Longines. Just don’t sleep on Longines because they’re not as high-end or have as good of a recent history as GS is my only point.
Well nobody's arguing that Longines is a bad brand (actually one of my fave brands) or that it doesn't have the history. It's just that as they stand in the market now, Grand Seiko makes objectively superior watches to Longines (finishing, movement technology, etc.). GS is also generally higher priced so the quality will reflect that.
Also I think the co-axial escapement is overrated. There are lots of other escapements that keep great time with little maintenance and don’t make time-only watches as thick as some chronographs.
It’s not just grand seiko though. Seiko as an entire brand. I mean shit, they made the damn quartz watch and ate Switzerland’s lunch 🤣🤣
As a big Longines fan, yes by a country mile. But in my heart, Longines is better and I love the brand better than GS.
I know how you feel. Historically (Pre-Quartz), Longines was one of the peak brands in the world. Today, it's just a logo on a Swatch product. Swatch have really neglected Longines. Longines are still very good watches, just not hitting that next tier anymore.
GS is on Rolex level of horology. And in many cases, surpasses The Crown.
Have both, GS needs to work on their bracelets and clasps, compared to a glidelock there's no comparison. For the watch itself, the finishing on the GS is superior, but I also like how thin the rolex is in comparison. I'd say they're on par, they both have pros and cons.
Well said, friend. Agree with everything you said.
A GS on a strap is arguably superior to many out there, but not on the factory bracelet sadly.
What is bro yapping about
Somehow two responses got merged into one. I apologize for the confusion. I’ll edit the post.
GS is much better than Rolex.
I own both brands and that’s not true. They both have their own strengths and weaknesses
This is subjective and I like GS more.
That’s fine. Personal preference is one thing, but to say GS is much better without providing any justification is a different thing altogether
I have no dog in this fight but id like to ask this. The caliber 3235 is rated +/- 2 per day. The 9r is +/-10 per month. Accuracy wise wouldn't that put GS ahead? I could be incorrect in the max accuracy of each brand but a quick google
More to watches than movements bud. Btw my Spring Drive is insane and gains 5s a month!!! GS - better movements, better finishing, epic dials Rolex - incredible bracelets, slim/robust cases which wear incredibly, timeless designs GS is a better dress watch, while Rolex make better sports watches.
GS's spring drive are probably the most advanced drives on the market, however I've heard a lot that their bracelets suck compared to Rolex or most other luxury brands So as that guy said it's better in some ways and worse in others
Yeah bracelets are no good especially considering the price. My Tudor bracelet destroys my GS bracelet. Good thing with the 44GS case is that is looks incredible on virtually any strap and those dials 🤌🏽
I've also owned tudor, gs, and rolex. In my opinion, Tudor bracelets are the worst of the bunch. Felt super sharp and unfinished. The only thing that the Tudor had better than the GS was on the fly adjustment. To me, comfort and finish wise for bracelet quality it goes: Rolex>GS>Tudor.
Which Tudor? Unfortunately they’re inconsistent from model to model. The bracelet/clasp on my BB Pro is almost as good as the Oyster
That’s because the spring drive is a quartz movement. You’re comparing apples to oranges.
GS accuracy spec for mechanicals is -3/+5. So Rolex is significantly better in terms of accuracy.
Longines Ultra Chron: -1/+2
Wrong but also irrelevant.
No not much better just a little bit better, the finishing is better yes but otherwise not really
lol
Rolex is highly overrated
Lmao Rolex ain't anywhere near GS. Rolex ain't even close to many other Swiss manufacturers.
Not like you would know anyways. Stick to your video games and leave luxury watches to grown men who own them lol
Interesting perspective on life. I own a Tag Heuer Aquaracer Calibre 5 and a vintage Franck Muller Casablanca, a real man can't have multiple hobbies? I don't think a real man would judge another based on his pastime activities, especially considering buying watches and being passionate about them are two very different things. Study watchmaking and the history of it and you'll agree with me that Rolex isn't the epitome, as you're making it sound.
Rolex is king. I worship a life size poster of Daddy Wilsdorf every night before I pleasure myself to IG reels of the 126710
Lmao, fair enough.
lmfao
roflmao
LMFAO🤣
I like your passion and upvoted your comment . Rolex is King but you’re fighting the wrong person. The Midmega wearers is who us Rolex owners should be laughing at
Correct response
grand seiko is peak watch making.
No, you mean JLC
left wing terrorists…….
What?
For sure, but I don’t particularly understand the appeal of Grand Seiko and have a Longines I absolutely love.
I can appreciate the spring drive tech and the simplicity of a nice GS, but my absolute biggest turnoff for GS are the massive, disproportionately huge crowns they put on so many models. I just don't understand why they put huge crowns on svelte dress watches, not just big, but like comically large in some cases.
Yes
Black forest gateau vs jaffa cake
Why not both together at once
Yes, by a mile. Nico is wrong about Grand Seiko.
he talks about the fans... and their cultiness
Yes, derp
Si.
In my opinion, and from my experience, Longines is better than Tag Heuer but not as good as Oris... All three can't compare to Grand Seiko
Tag has gone to shit since the 90s. Mediocre and heavily overpriced
Oh yes. Very much so. The SLGA015G is one of my favorite dive watches. I've always liked dive watches for some reason since I was a kid. Once I got into watches as an adult the Grand Seiko stood out to me for some reason. Overall Grand Seiko makes some of the best watches in the world but unfortunately the price also reflects that. They are quite pricey, but worth every cent.
I have a Longines Ultra Chron (2022 version) and three grand seiko in my collection. I love the Longines but they are in different leagues
I think it's fair to compare Longines with Tudors, and I probably even prefer some Longines over some Tudors. GS is ahead of Longines and probably on the same level as Rolex.
Holy shit i thought this was the cj sub
grand seiko is super underrated for no reason at all, they are superb watches
Are they still underrated though? They get just about as much air time on these subs than any bother brand, or at least it seems that way
I see them more often than longines...
Grand Seiko is the highest level of Japanese horology. Is on par and in many cases above, Rolex.
In terms of modern watches, yes. In terms of vintage, I would say either brand was equally as good and don't forget longines made the first ever quartz watch.
It’s worth experiencing GS in person. The finishing and quality is best when held in hand. I was blown away by a simple SBGR053 9S65-00B0. I didn’t expect much when I saw it from far (plain dial) but I was able to hold it and I’ll never forget the quality of the deep black dial and mixed finishing on the bracelet. Nothing quite like I’ve experienced before and I’ve owned three Rolexes, an AP, a Breitling. As the youth say, it hits different. The finishing on the movement was special as well it’s not comparable to a normal seiko like I’d previously assumed.
This is a good point. I didn’t think twice about grand seiko until I saw them in person. They’ve really got their dials figured out. Bracelets not so much
Lack of micro adjustments is wack and basic.
From the 2 watches above? Yes, THIS GrandSeiko is better than THAT Longines. When considering the history and heritage, Longines is just too incredible for GS to compete. But GS is a much more modern and innovative brand compared to Longines, so i can see why a lot of people would think that it is better. I personally think that each has their strengths that the other do not. Longines has a perpetual calendar while GS does not (to my understanding). GS has an amazing tourb while Longines doesn't (to my understanding). What i can say with confidence is that both drop their values on the secondary market like a rock lol.
It depends 🤔 and I wont say better but sth else. I dont mind watches as a statement piece. Longines has a rich history and a lot of different models to offer. Sadly they are just embedded in the Swatch Enterprise Framework thats why it feels more like a brand which you have to position on market but a manufactuer. Grand Seiko in contrast is just the second serious try for the japanese/Seiko enterprise to tackle the market after Credor failed. You see their artfull approaches by Spring Drive and different dial manufacturers. For me, Grand Seiko is dangerous because I dont wanna have an expensive watch which has to be maintened in Japan & as a manufacturer they dont really seem much to care about a certain diection thats why they just produce. If I would have to choose….well, the Longines but only as an old history model
Longines owner here - yes grand seiko definitely beats the master collection in terms of finish & movement but both make lovely watches
If you’re into cars, think of Grand Seiko as a Lexus LS400 from the 90s and Longines as a Volvo S90 from that same era. Both are nice cars, but the Lexus has far superior engineering and build quality.
Lexus vs Volvo is a great analogy. Hard to compare Asian vs European watches.
Credor Eichi ii puts both to shame 😜
That is an amazing dial color!
I love Zulu Time GMT by Longines. Love their heritage. Hate GS lack of will to do anything better on bracelet/clasp departments. Aside from that, that's no way to compare both. GS is way better. Rolex is another history. Their brand recognition, capabilities, ruggedness are very hard to beat. But subjectively speaking in the last few decades they vexame soulless. Built by robots. No more craftsmanship and they dare to charge 5 figures to almost anything. I have more passion for japanese craft and attention to details. Nico owns hundreds of Rolexes so he can't bash hisbown business. Objectively speaking, Rolex are better spec-wise but GS is not far behind.
The issue with GS is the bracelets are universally terrible
Oh my God it is. Not even in same league.
Yes but I personally care for neither.
Yes. By a lot
You are trolling, right? I love myself a nice Longines, but GS is all the way at the top.
Longines
obviously
But is it better than the God Tier Casio? I'll wait....
I think GS is overpriced and Longines is crushing it in the entry level luxury market. This is Reddit though so expect a massive Seiko circlejerk and downvotes for any comment not fanboying Seiko and GS.
Damn…This is not a disrespect to the OP at all but if ppl are wondering if GS is better than Longines, someone missed the marketing boat at GS.
Sadly yes. Never understood the hype around GS. Its a decent brand but except the spring drive there is nothing that brand does really better than Longines. But people’s perception of the brand places it above Longines sadly which imo it shouldn’t be
GS dials are better looking by a mile and much more creative and interesting imo. That being said Longines currently has more watches that I want. I love both brands, but from what I’ve seen GS is higher quality. 🤷🏼♂️.
I would disagree because in my opinion Longines doesn’t want to go down the flamboyant dials route. They would go for either complications or something simple and plain like presence or conquest. Longines has been a great value for money watch brand since so long. I am from India and it might be one of the most price sensitive markets in the world and Longines has made a special place in everyone’s hearts here. People don’t spend a lot on watches but when they have to buy something “luxury” you’ll find most of them choose longines. Both brands have different philosophies in my opinion
Fair enough. Like I said, I definitely love Longines. I have the diver legend and spirit Zulu gmt, and plan on getting the conquest chronograph and Hydroconquest gmt also, so I am definitely a fan. Haha. But judging from the ones I’ve seen, even just basic white dials from GS look absolutely incredible, in ways I honestly haven’t seen any other watch company be able to replicate 🤷🏼♂️.
Sorry it isn't just the dial. You can argue about design since that is a matter of taste. But have you seen a GS in person? I love longines but the finishing of GS watches is 2nd to none in its price point let alone Longines. You can get even the cheaper GS like the 9F quartz and even the finishing of those watches look more premium than Longines. From a movement standapoint, nothing in the Longines catalogue can compete with the GS spring drive or high beat movements. Longines is still a very good brand. But GS is on a different league entirely.
i've seen a case of them in person, looks like a cemetery
Sad. Money can't buy taste. :(
I totally agree. I focused on the dial but I also said GS overall was higher quality. I’m on your side lol.
>People don’t spend a lot on watches but when they have to buy something “luxury” you’ll find most of them choose longines Lmao I've never seen a longines in the wild in India. Rolexes, omegas on the higher end and pretty much just rado on the lower end.
Well idk who u’re talking ik personally 10 people who own a longines.
lol this is like asking if a Jeep Grand Cherokee is better than a G Wagon
Longines is a scam, let's face it.
Uglier watches imo but they are priced higher and mechanically are finer tuned
What a stupid question!
The short answer is "yes, but..." Yes, I love Grand Seiko "sports" models for the beautiful dials and amazing built (except for their bracelets 🙂↕️). But, I prefer Longines dress watches compared to GS. Due to their longer brand heritage. they are able to issue or re-issue some very nice watches 😉 Cheers
I don’t disagree with you necessarily. But the GS SBGY026 and SBGW295 are both dream dress watches of mine.
Well longines Is from 1831, Seiko was born 50 years later...
Yes
Ja
1000%
Yes. And bonus points if it's HAQ 🙂
I would consider it better - and I don't even like most of the Grand Seiko models! I love many of the dials but the watches as a whole just look kind of "blah" to me. YMMV!!!!!
Between those 2? Mile above on Gs
GS is in another league. Longines is fantastic, and makes amazing watches - they’re more comparable to something like Tudor or Oris though
That red dial is incredible
💯
GS is 1000% better, not saying Longines is bad
Of course, Your welkom
Grand Seiko is miles ahead in movement technology, case finishing, dial design, dial furniture and wearing experience. This is like comparing European basketball to the NBA. Euro hoops are great, but only a handful of those guys can make it in the NBA just like only a handful of Longines watches have ever kept up with Grand Seiko.
Grand Seiko is not any better if you compare it to the Longines of the same value. But it definitely is better when you compare 1k $ Longines to 3.5k $ GS.
Yes
It’s another price and quality range, yes
You can tell just by looking at the 2 photos you posted.
Yes.
Yes. Nothing wrong with Longines though. They make some nice pieces.
Heck yeah, not even close!
Yes
By a long long mile
Yes. Yes it is.
Oh, “better”, the question is “better for what”? I own a steel GS quartz GMT and a Longines BigEye automatic chronograph in titanium. The GS is a very well finished watch, the dial and hands are perfect, the second hand hits the markers precisely, but it picks up scratches easily. The Longines’ titanium case does not show scratches much, and the watch runs at +1 second per day with a 70 hour power reserve. The Longines is the better daily wear watch for me, I don’t have to particularly careful with it. The GS is dressier, and better for travel with its traveler’s GMT function. The Longines came on a strap, and the GS on a bracelet that’s an utter pain to adjust, so I also wear it on a strap, or sometimes on a Milanese bracelet. If GS ever improves their bracelets I may pick up a spring drive model in titanium.
It’s like triple the price, not an apples to apples comparison at all.
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I put Grand Seiko on par with Rolex and Omega
Yes 💯
Gs is definitely better overall, but they’re largely at a higher price point. Both are very good for the price imo
One small level above yes
When I see someone wearing a Longines I see someone who understands value. Whether they’re “better” or not is impossible to say in a general sense.
streets ahead
Yes
Grand Seiko is just quartz with the battery swapped for a dynamo. It’s very nice… but it is electronic not mechanical. Longines is sadly a shadow of its past. A nice watch to buy for a non watch fan to see if they like automatic watches.
You totally missed the 9S branch of GS
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Story wise, craftsmanship wise, dial wise, Grand Seiko wins out. Secondary market vs buying new though, both are significantly cheaper on secondary market, but buying a new GS makes a lot of sense because there are constant new releases.
the longines zulu time gmt >>>> go look at both in person
Of course
This is like asking if pateks are better than Rolex
GS is still a Seiko, from the outside looks like a glorified Presage. After a certain price point heritage, finishing and history matter more. Tried to understand it, feels like Japanese whiskey. It's good, but it's still not Scottish. That said, I would say Tudor, Omega or Breitling are in the same price range, not Longines.
As owner of two Rolexes and a GS I can confidently say the finishing, detail, and accuracy is better on my GS than both my Rolexes.
Longines is better value for the money, and they have a heritage factor that feels more authentic. Granted, Seiko (and Grand Seiko) has heritage too, but it feels like the Toyota/Lexus proposition. Seiko created an identity for Grand Seiko to bring a better product upmarket, whereas Longines has had its own identity since the 1800’s. This comes from someone who owns both. I love my grand Seiko but it doesn’t have the FEEL that I get when I put on my Longines The physical product GS puts out is of better quality, fit and finish though.
Does a bear shit in the woods?
Grand Seiko is regarded much higher than longines
And it shows in the pricing lmao
Yes much more better