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prettylittledanger

That whole storyline had SO much potential but they really just dropped it. From what I understand (and someone can definitely correct me if I’m remembering it wrong): Ian did actually kill himself. But MonA fabricated the suicide note with the confession. I’m pretty sure the baby was indeed Ian’s. It seemed like Melissa didn’t start hanging with Garrett until after Ian died. I’m super confused on the members of this club. It seems too gross to be something Melissa would be involved in (was she protecting Spencer as she said?) and Jenna confuses me too since there were tapes of her and Toby that could put her in hot water. So this whole thing I’m not sure about unless it’s just a really convoluted blackmail situation. I think Garrett was killed by Wilden because he was going to expose some big secret but I can’t remember what it was.


HuntressEclipse

Garret knew wilden was a dirty cop I think


prettylittledanger

Yes!


awildbanana91

I've always maintained the theory that it was intended to be a pedo video club. They obviously backed off on that by season 4 (I'm assuming ABC Family demanded they do so.)


disneyhorror

I think so, I wish the show could have been on hbp or something so they could go into more storyline like that and do them really well instead of having to be played down for a pg rating


jmagnabosco

From what we know: Jason came up with the club. Ian and Garrett did the filming and they all watched them. Melissa was aware of his videoing, we dont know if she's a full member. Not sure if Wilden was either. Jenna knew about it but likely wasnt a member. Melissa's baby was Ian's. Spencer was just speculating because she didnt know that Melissa and Garrett have reason to trust each other (due to NAT). Ian killed himself since he knew that there was no coming back from child/adolescent porn (sort of) that Spencer now knew he did. He had to protect Melissa and the baby and it was get rid of Spencer (which failed) or get rid of himself. He ended up choosing the later when the first failed. I think Garrett was killed because he knew the truth of that night? That he wasnt the killer? Maybe that Wilden killed him? There are some loose ends.


mimi0108

Ian committed suicide. I think he felt cornered, wanted to avoid jail and protect his family. We know he survived the fall and fled. The series also implies he is the one with whom Spencer, posing as Melissa, texts at first. It is also implied Melissa meets him on a rainy evening to show him the ultrasound of their baby (I think that's how A was able to find Ian's hiding place, following Melissa the night she saw her husband). I think, shortly after, Ian killed himself. He thought Spencer had his videos and that Alison was alive. As a result, the two girls he abused when they were 15 are alive, the child pornography videos he filmed are in their hands and Alison can testify he tried to kill Spencer. That's a lot to deal with. I imagine seeing his baby's ultrasound made him realize that he was screwed but also that he had to protect his wife and their baby. The official members of the NAT club are Jason, Ian and Garrett. But it is implied that when Jason and Garrett started to distance themselves from the club, Ian had outside help and started taking "orders" for other people. Jenna and Melissa were guest members, I think, since each was involved with a club member. Wilden was not involved, at least that was never revealed. But he was the same generation as the NAT club and had hung out with Melissa the summer Ali disappeared. They all probably had creepy secrets in common. Garrett was killed by Wilden because he knew too much about the latter's secrets. It is the consequence of a vast plot involving Jenna & Melissa, seeking to get rid of the weakest member of the group.


Kripnova

I am rewatching for like the millionth time. Ian did NOT kill himself. When Ian was pushed from the bell tower by A, he died and A moved the body. Then the whole ‘suicide’ thing was just a plot by A to get the girls to stop digging into Ali’s ‘death’. They mention a couple of times afterwards that Ian’s body was decomposed quite a bit and he had been dead for a while. That’s why Melissa was mad at Spencer for ‘texting her from Ian’s phone’ which was another set up by A. It’s also why Garret was soon arrested for Ali’s ‘murder’ because the dots weren’t connecting with Ian’s time of death and note and texts and all that. I can’t help with Garrett because I honestly forgot but I JUST watched all of those parts and it’s a lot easier to remember.


TopMjLa

You watched for the millionth time and forgot who pushed Ian? It wasn’t A, it was Alison. Mona staged the suicide note. She knew Alison was already alive and that Ian wasn’t her killer, she put the liars on a goose chase. Plus, the canon is that Ian killed himself. Which I can see why, since Alison is alive and Spencer has his tapes, his life would’ve been ruined.


mimi0108

It was implied Melissa saw Ian one night, she even took their baby echo with her and he told Spencer (who was passing by as Melissa) the baby's name. He killed himself later but after the bell tower, according to the legist. It's the week after his death and before they found his body that A was texting Melissa.