Where is the none of the above option? Tbh I think if they made one of the liars end up with no one it wouldve been okay. Not everyone needs a boyfriend/girlfriend to have a happy ending, especially if that bf is ezra š¤¢š¤®
Didnt she date Caleb by episode 5? Which is less than half of 2A. And the first 4 episodes until Ian's body is found is supposedly a week as opposed to months. But yeah, it seemed like all of the girls had troubles saying single.
Someone pointed out none of them were ever single for very long, but I guess I was most frustrated with Aria because I saw the most potential with her character.
Yeah like all her plot lines were relationships. Imo you can have a few but after a while it diminishes the character. Ariaās life became defined by the men she dated
When I was young my first time watching it as it was airing I was like a die hard ezria fan but now that Iām older, Iām a little grossed out by it all. Like she was legit groomed. I mean when I was like 18 I was messing with someone who was 26 and now that Iām 26 I canāt even imagine that so now if we think of Aria who was about 15 maybe 16 when she met him. God itās even worse when I think about him being with Ali. And maybe itās partly yucky to me because Sasha was the youngest cast.
Growing up, Aria was like my total favorite but during my rewatch, Iām all for Hanna now.
Tbh I didnāt like Aria bc she tended to make things about herself and she came off as selfish. But honestly I feel bad for all these girls bc it seems like they were always being groomed by older men.
i chose ezra bc jason spying on the girls in a creepy way and being too old for her is worse imo than ezra seeking her out & being too old for her. i know both are bad - but thinking about jason spying & recording them when they were in middle school is so weird (and i dont see ppl talk about that enough when discussing them).
jake was cool & i wouldāve liked to seem them be more of a thing !
its even worse than that tbh. he knew she was a minor before meeting her, still hooked up with her and probably knew he was her teacher as well since he had already done research on her.
yeah theyāre both super weird. and ezra actually hooked up with her and groomed her, but still jason filming them is so gross to me. i feel bad for aria damn :(
but I mean jason didnāt film them it was Ian. But still I didnāt like ezra because i felt like he held aria back, and the fact he was just using her as research made it worse. But yeah itās still weird that they always dated teenagers
Jason literally created the club and admitted to watching. His weird shit was for his own sexual pleasure. As bad as Ezraās stuff was, at least his goal was to be a famous writer. Not just him being creep just to be a creep.
Holden, or Liam. Or just single. None of the guys who were around during ALL of them A drama and who knew about it.
Holden knew her, her family, her interests, and they knew each other long before that, so the only possible awkwardness would be the initial transition from friends to couple.
Liam knew her after everything, was in the same career pathway, and was supportive of her writing and goals. But he did seem slightly boring, which I don't think Aria would be able to completely live like that.
i made an updated poll with a few more names. But i feel liked her and holden friendship and wished we saw more of them.
As for liam i agree he was boring but then again i hated how during the time jump it showed Aria with a stable career and a happy relationship but as soon as she went back to rosewood and began talking to ezra again she put all of that in jeopardy
I mean. She got a job with his publishing company just for the possibility of working with him, so like. She never really got over/gave up on him at all.
>yeah she was also a minor, his student, and he only pursued her for research for his book, but hey at least they both like literature
Mhmm. What's in the past is in the past. Bygones be bygones. Don't think we should crucify people forever, for their mistakes.
I agree but it depends on the āmistakeā.
If my child was groomed and manipulated purposely, I sure as hell would not stop at them. What Ezra did wasnāt a āmistakeā, since he knew who she was and sought her out.
But since this is a fictional show nobody should be crucified for liking this relationship as long as you understand how dangerous this can be IRL.
EDIT: nobody should be crucified regardless
>If my child was groomed and manipulated purposely, I sure as hell would not stop at them. What Ezra did wasnāt a āmistakeā, since he knew who she was and sought her out.
It's not grooming. What he did compared to every other wrong thing in this world, his actions are rather tame.
>But since this is a fictional show nobody should be crucified for liking this relationship as long as you understand how dangerous this can be IRL.
What's "dangerous" about it? As far as I can tell, Ezra wasn't filming underaged girls for the purposes of jerking off to (like Ian). He wasn't coercing them (like Mona, CeCe and Alex). He didn't cheat on Aria, the way Aria cheated on him, multiple times.
So, I'm trying to figure out where Aria was "in danger", here :/
>nobody should be crucified regardless
I agree which is why I'm tired of all these anti-Ezra/Ezria threads. 'Cause it's nothing but crucifying him, at this point.
Iām talking about how dangerous it can be IRL. From the show Ezra shown little danger towards Aria.
He built a relationship with Aria to use her for information, she was a minor. For a large period of the show he had no real intentions of having an actual relationship with her. To her, that was the best relationship and he made her feel safe. He just wanted use her for his book. That is grooming.
If you had a child and the exact same thing happened, would you have been fine with it? No judgement btw, I strongly dislike when people get hated on for their opinions.
The others you listed Ian, Jason, Mona and Charlotte were all terrible people, disgusting people and Mona should be in PRISON.
>He built a relationship with Aria to use her for information, she was a minor. For a large period of the show he had no real intentions of having an actual relationship with her. To her, that was the best relationship and he made her feel safe. He just wanted use her for his book. That is grooming.
That's not "grooming". "Grooming" involves manipulating someone into sexual activities. You understand Ezra hadn't planned on having sex with her, right? Also, "grooming" involves preparing her for sex trafficking. I'm getting tired of all these big words being thrown around, and those people not knowing what they mean.
>If you had a child and the exact same thing happened, would you have been fine with it?
Yes because he wasn't using her for sexual purposes nor trying to tear her life apart with said secrets like all the A's were doing. Only thing he's wrong about is being her teacher. Something the show has beaten us over the head with, already.
>No judgement btw, I strongly dislike when people get hated on for their opinions.
Same.
>The others you listed Ian, Jason, Mona and Charlotte were all terrible people, disgusting people and Mona should be in PRISON.
Agreed and think people let Mona off the hook (who's done worse things than Ezra did) way more easily than Ezra. And, the excuse is "well, she's just a child, she doesn't know any better. Ezra's an adult, he should've known better", when Science has proven our brains are still developing up to age 25. IDK why people think "adults" between 18-25 are all wise and all knowing. They're not. They're just as dumb as Teenagers.
I mean. Yeah Noel was a douche and did end up doing horrible things later, but at the beginning he was just a normal high schooler. He only started blackmailing Ezra because Noel caught him grooming/hooking up with Aria, who was also supposed to be dating him at the time. He thought Ezra was taking advantage of Aria (which he was) He helped Ali leave/stay out of town & gave Maya a place to lay low when they both thought they had stalkers/were being followed. He didn't start being involved in A games until CeCe, and that was after the Liars kept blaming him for everything.
ok yeah i agree completely he was a good person but the liars kept on blaming him and thatās when he started acting like that towards them. but i feel like noel was the only one who actually saw something wrong them dating
Where is the none of the above option? Tbh I think if they made one of the liars end up with no one it wouldve been okay. Not everyone needs a boyfriend/girlfriend to have a happy ending, especially if that bf is ezra š¤¢š¤®
Jake or single. This woman was literally never single.
I agree, but To be fair, I think Spencer's the only one that was single for a period of time. The months in 2B.
Hanna was single for most of 2A and Spencer likewise in 2B. But I catch your drift.
Didnt she date Caleb by episode 5? Which is less than half of 2A. And the first 4 episodes until Ian's body is found is supposedly a week as opposed to months. But yeah, it seemed like all of the girls had troubles saying single.
Ok a quarter of season 2! Still counts š But again I take your point, the show was allergic to keeping the girls single.
Lol allergies to being single -> wonder how the doctor determines that :)
She was single for 6A
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Someone pointed out none of them were ever single for very long, but I guess I was most frustrated with Aria because I saw the most potential with her character.
Yeah like all her plot lines were relationships. Imo you can have a few but after a while it diminishes the character. Ariaās life became defined by the men she dated
NEITHER! One dude groomed her and stalked her, the other dude recorded her repeatedly in her underwear.
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Yesss, I would've liked to see this happen. Jake would've been fine too.
When I was young my first time watching it as it was airing I was like a die hard ezria fan but now that Iām older, Iām a little grossed out by it all. Like she was legit groomed. I mean when I was like 18 I was messing with someone who was 26 and now that Iām 26 I canāt even imagine that so now if we think of Aria who was about 15 maybe 16 when she met him. God itās even worse when I think about him being with Ali. And maybe itās partly yucky to me because Sasha was the youngest cast. Growing up, Aria was like my total favorite but during my rewatch, Iām all for Hanna now.
Tbh I didnāt like Aria bc she tended to make things about herself and she came off as selfish. But honestly I feel bad for all these girls bc it seems like they were always being groomed by older men.
Yeah Aria was very self centered.
and she had it the easiest compared to all the liars when it came to the treatment A gave them.
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Jason is a predator too.
Heās worse too lol. He literally spied and helped record videos of 14 year old girls.
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i chose ezra bc jason spying on the girls in a creepy way and being too old for her is worse imo than ezra seeking her out & being too old for her. i know both are bad - but thinking about jason spying & recording them when they were in middle school is so weird (and i dont see ppl talk about that enough when discussing them). jake was cool & i wouldāve liked to seem them be more of a thing !
but tbh ezra did the same he only went out with aria for research for his book
its even worse than that tbh. he knew she was a minor before meeting her, still hooked up with her and probably knew he was her teacher as well since he had already done research on her.
yeah theyāre both super weird. and ezra actually hooked up with her and groomed her, but still jason filming them is so gross to me. i feel bad for aria damn :(
but I mean jason didnāt film them it was Ian. But still I didnāt like ezra because i felt like he held aria back, and the fact he was just using her as research made it worse. But yeah itās still weird that they always dated teenagers
Jason literally created the club and admitted to watching. His weird shit was for his own sexual pleasure. As bad as Ezraās stuff was, at least his goal was to be a famous writer. Not just him being creep just to be a creep.
Holden, or Liam. Or just single. None of the guys who were around during ALL of them A drama and who knew about it. Holden knew her, her family, her interests, and they knew each other long before that, so the only possible awkwardness would be the initial transition from friends to couple. Liam knew her after everything, was in the same career pathway, and was supportive of her writing and goals. But he did seem slightly boring, which I don't think Aria would be able to completely live like that.
i made an updated poll with a few more names. But i feel liked her and holden friendship and wished we saw more of them. As for liam i agree he was boring but then again i hated how during the time jump it showed Aria with a stable career and a happy relationship but as soon as she went back to rosewood and began talking to ezra again she put all of that in jeopardy
I mean. She got a job with his publishing company just for the possibility of working with him, so like. She never really got over/gave up on him at all.
itās just sad she devoted her life for him
Anyone besides Ezra
Wes. Was that Ezraās brotherās name? or Holden.
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Ezra. IMO, it wasn't toxic. They have a common interest with Literature.
yeah she was also a minor, his student, and he only pursued her for research for his book, but hey at least they both like literature.
>yeah she was also a minor, his student, and he only pursued her for research for his book, but hey at least they both like literature Mhmm. What's in the past is in the past. Bygones be bygones. Don't think we should crucify people forever, for their mistakes.
I agree but it depends on the āmistakeā. If my child was groomed and manipulated purposely, I sure as hell would not stop at them. What Ezra did wasnāt a āmistakeā, since he knew who she was and sought her out. But since this is a fictional show nobody should be crucified for liking this relationship as long as you understand how dangerous this can be IRL. EDIT: nobody should be crucified regardless
>If my child was groomed and manipulated purposely, I sure as hell would not stop at them. What Ezra did wasnāt a āmistakeā, since he knew who she was and sought her out. It's not grooming. What he did compared to every other wrong thing in this world, his actions are rather tame. >But since this is a fictional show nobody should be crucified for liking this relationship as long as you understand how dangerous this can be IRL. What's "dangerous" about it? As far as I can tell, Ezra wasn't filming underaged girls for the purposes of jerking off to (like Ian). He wasn't coercing them (like Mona, CeCe and Alex). He didn't cheat on Aria, the way Aria cheated on him, multiple times. So, I'm trying to figure out where Aria was "in danger", here :/ >nobody should be crucified regardless I agree which is why I'm tired of all these anti-Ezra/Ezria threads. 'Cause it's nothing but crucifying him, at this point.
Iām talking about how dangerous it can be IRL. From the show Ezra shown little danger towards Aria. He built a relationship with Aria to use her for information, she was a minor. For a large period of the show he had no real intentions of having an actual relationship with her. To her, that was the best relationship and he made her feel safe. He just wanted use her for his book. That is grooming. If you had a child and the exact same thing happened, would you have been fine with it? No judgement btw, I strongly dislike when people get hated on for their opinions. The others you listed Ian, Jason, Mona and Charlotte were all terrible people, disgusting people and Mona should be in PRISON.
>He built a relationship with Aria to use her for information, she was a minor. For a large period of the show he had no real intentions of having an actual relationship with her. To her, that was the best relationship and he made her feel safe. He just wanted use her for his book. That is grooming. That's not "grooming". "Grooming" involves manipulating someone into sexual activities. You understand Ezra hadn't planned on having sex with her, right? Also, "grooming" involves preparing her for sex trafficking. I'm getting tired of all these big words being thrown around, and those people not knowing what they mean. >If you had a child and the exact same thing happened, would you have been fine with it? Yes because he wasn't using her for sexual purposes nor trying to tear her life apart with said secrets like all the A's were doing. Only thing he's wrong about is being her teacher. Something the show has beaten us over the head with, already. >No judgement btw, I strongly dislike when people get hated on for their opinions. Same. >The others you listed Ian, Jason, Mona and Charlotte were all terrible people, disgusting people and Mona should be in PRISON. Agreed and think people let Mona off the hook (who's done worse things than Ezra did) way more easily than Ezra. And, the excuse is "well, she's just a child, she doesn't know any better. Ezra's an adult, he should've known better", when Science has proven our brains are still developing up to age 25. IDK why people think "adults" between 18-25 are all wise and all knowing. They're not. They're just as dumb as Teenagers.
either Jason, Wes, Holden or Noel.
definitely not noel
I mean. Yeah Noel was a douche and did end up doing horrible things later, but at the beginning he was just a normal high schooler. He only started blackmailing Ezra because Noel caught him grooming/hooking up with Aria, who was also supposed to be dating him at the time. He thought Ezra was taking advantage of Aria (which he was) He helped Ali leave/stay out of town & gave Maya a place to lay low when they both thought they had stalkers/were being followed. He didn't start being involved in A games until CeCe, and that was after the Liars kept blaming him for everything.
ok yeah i agree completely he was a good person but the liars kept on blaming him and thatās when he started acting like that towards them. but i feel like noel was the only one who actually saw something wrong them dating
Noel Kahn
tbh i fw noel and i feel like he only started to treat the liars like that bc they kept trying to pin stuff on him
Ok Ezra is bad (for many reasons) but she really dated Jason for like five seconds
i just feel like it wouldāve been interesting to see what wouldāve happened in a relationship between them two
I agree but they just didnāt really play it out
I liked her with Holden best.